Tight window throws & lack of separation

with Tate as your biggest threat what did you expect? It will get better as the Giants get healthy and face less competition.

Our two best receivers at creating separation. Probably not a factor.

Jones made some poor decisions - to be expected, but really there was no one open all night. Our guys were plastered on almost every pass play. The Pats defense is really good in coverage. We couldn't run the ball to save our lives, either.

I was impressed with the ball placement on a few different occasions.

Jones was in what was basically an impossible situation last night. Barely had any weapons. No run game. Whipping winds. Tough defense.

Just part of the growth process for him.

In comment 14624210 gmenatlarge said:

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with Tate as your biggest threat what did you expect? It will get better as the Giants get healthy and face less competition.

I expected the Pats to kick our ass. I was just posting some numbers that I thought were interesting.

In comment 14624217 arcarsenal said:

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Jones made some poor decisions - to be expected, but really there was no one open all night. Our guys were plastered on almost every pass play. The Pats defense is really good in coverage. We couldn't run the ball to save our lives, either. I was impressed with the ball placement on a few different occasions. Jones was in what was basically an impossible situation last night. Barely had any weapons. No run game. Whipping winds. Tough defense. Just part of the growth process for him.

Good post.

had a pretty good game minus a couple rookie mistakes that resulted in turnovers. He is throwing the ball into impossible windows and he still was making plays. There were a few throws that were absolutely perfect.

In comment 14624227 Zeke's Alibi said:

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had a pretty good game minus a couple rookie mistakes that resulted in turnovers. He is throwing the ball into impossible windows and he still was making plays. There were a few throws that were absolutely perfect.

This came from Ranaan by the way. I agree. He had some really nice passes. Even on some in completions. Like the pass to Tate that should have been PI. The deep pass to Slayton.

None of the receivers could get any separation and Jones would try and throw it into whatever small window he had. He didn't have any other option. I like what I've seen from the kid. Add in a running game and our missing receivers and he will succeed.

were several plays where Jones had time to throw, the play was designed to go downfield, and he simply couldn't find anyone open.

And after most of those plays, the game thread posts discussed how shitty a playcall it was. To be fair, every run was considered a shitty playcall too:)

It is tough to compete when receivers are shut down and you don't have a running game to counter it.

two QA coaches - one on the Eagles and one on the Patriots, whose sole job it is to review game tape, see what gets called as PI by different crews, and share information with the coaching staff on how to get the most amount of holding in the secondary with the least number of flags.

That's the only way I can explain the secondaries for both of those teams. Blatant holding every time I see them, but only a handful of flags at best.

I'm not complaining - I just want the Giants to emulate that behavior. I want to see more Giants wrapped around guys 3 seconds before the ball gets there with no flags, and less watching Giants DBs chasing after a completed catch.

In comment 14624239 BigBlue in Keys said:

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None of the receivers could get any separation and Jones would try and throw it into whatever small window he had. He didn't have any other option. I like what I've seen from the kid. Add in a running game and our missing receivers and he will succeed.

I knew they were having a tough time getting separation. Just would have never guessed it would be the smallest amount of separation in the past 4 seasons.

Duke game. Jones throwing against superior defenses, erring on the side of aggression trying to make something happen and looking bad doing it. He's still got that ball placement, though, which is a thing of beauty at times.

Better times ahead for the Giants and DJ, I hope.

you can be like Ogletree, barely make contact with a TE, and get called for holding. Or get illegal contact called.

Outside of the Jenkins call, most defensive holdings and illegal contacts are calls you could make every play - but for some reason, on 3rd downs certain teams don't get that call against them.

I'd like to see us do that more too, but be prepared for us to be called on it much more and by inference be called "undisciplined". When good teams aren't flagged, they are called wily....

In comment 14624244 jcn56 said:

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two QA coaches - one on the Eagles and one on the Patriots, whose sole job it is to review game tape, see what gets called as PI by different crews, and share information with the coaching staff on how to get the most amount of holding in the secondary with the least number of flags. That's the only way I can explain the secondaries for both of those teams. Blatant holding every time I see them, but only a handful of flags at best. I'm not complaining - I just want the Giants to emulate that behavior. I want to see more Giants wrapped around guys 3 seconds before the ball gets there with no flags, and less watching Giants DBs chasing after a completed catch.

That’s what Jenkins did and got flagged for it!

Link?

So its encouraging being able to put the ball in spots like that. A lot of young QBs either cant make that throw or dont make those throws.

Looking to see some better decision making throughout the rest of the year.

In comment 14624823 Mike from SI said:

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Link?

Ranaan. Missed it in the original post but gave him credit a few posts later.