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Giants re-sign QB Alex Tanney, waive RB Austin Walter

Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/11/2019 12:01 pm
Dan Salomone
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Roster update: The Giants have signed QB Alex Tanney back to the team and waived RB Austin Walter.
Our long, 3rd-QBless nightmare is over  
jcn56 : 10/11/2019 12:02 pm : link
.
I'll always remember Walter's memorable debut  
Anakim : 10/11/2019 12:03 pm : link
He really left his mark on the field



And Jones' worst game as a pro was without Tanney's leadership and great mind. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
Lol  
5BowlsSoon : 10/11/2019 12:04 pm : link
What a joke
hil  
santacruzom : 10/11/2019 12:05 pm : link
arious
I guess they didnít want to leave Tanney as a free agent to see who  
Ivan15 : 10/11/2019 12:05 pm : link
would pick him up.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/11/2019 12:06 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

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It's become evident to me that Alex Tanney brings something behind scenes that Eli Manning does not. Could be breaking down film of upcoming opponents. Could be something more.

Again, I'd make him QB coach because I would use the roster spot elsewhere. But they want him as QB3.
RE: ...  
Anakim : 10/11/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14624689 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

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It's become evident to me that Alex Tanney brings something behind scenes that Eli Manning does not. Could be breaking down film of upcoming opponents. Could be something more.

Again, I'd make him QB coach because I would use the roster spot elsewhere. But they want him as QB3.


The next Kurt Warner
.  
Anakim : 10/11/2019 12:08 pm : link
Matt Lombardo
@MattLombardoNFL
I simply cannot fathom the need to carry Alex Tanney as a third QB. I get that the #Giants value his influence on Daniel Jones, but if thatís the case, make him the QB coach. Youíre hurting depth and flexibility at other positions by keeping him on the 53.
RE: I guess they didnít want to leave Tanney as a free agent to see who  
Vanzetti : 10/11/2019 12:08 pm : link
In comment 14624687 Ivan15 said:
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would pick him up.


There was an all-out war to sign him.

As occurs whenever DG cuts one of the special players he has acquired.
RE: .  
Rory : 10/11/2019 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14624695 Anakim said:
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Matt Lombardo
@MattLombardoNFL
I simply cannot fathom the need to carry Alex Tanney as a third QB. I get that the #Giants value his influence on Daniel Jones, but if thatís the case, make him the QB coach. Youíre hurting depth and flexibility at other positions by keeping him on the 53.


what you can/cant fathom means absolutely jack shit.
A miracle  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/11/2019 12:12 pm : link
Some other team didn't immediately snap him. A huge relief having a backup mentor on the roster.
I can't figure out  
crackerjack465 : 10/11/2019 12:12 pm : link
why this matters so much to BBI. We've kept 3 qbs before.
Are you fucking kidding me?  
Jay on the Island : 10/11/2019 12:17 pm : link
I'm not even mad that they brought Tanney back but they're keeping Hilliman over Walter? Hilliman has had two terrible fumbles in 3 games on just 30 carries and he is safe? How about holding him accountable and releasing the kid? We can find dozens of other backs that can do better than 3 yards per carry.
Maybe it is just that they are holding Tanney because  
NY-Fan : 10/11/2019 12:19 pm : link
Once Eli is gone next year they will only carry Jones and Tanney. They must like Tanney as the backup to Jones.
RE: Maybe it is just that they are holding Tanney because  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/11/2019 12:19 pm : link
In comment 14624715 NY-Fan said:
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Once Eli is gone next year they will only carry Jones and Tanney. They must like Tanney as the backup to Jones.


Or gone this year?
Tanney  
DanMetroMan : 10/11/2019 12:21 pm : link
as Jones future backup seems like a very poor move. Eventually, the Giants are going to be expected to win games, if God forbid DJ misses say 3-4 weeks, Tanney doesn't give you a chance to win games. The Giants should look at someone like Taysom Hill to back up DJ.
I like the coach idea Eric...  
Giant John : 10/11/2019 12:25 pm : link
Because he does not throw an accurate pass.
RE: Are you fucking kidding me?  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/11/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14624710 Jay on the Island said:
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I'm not even mad that they brought Tanney back but they're keeping Hilliman over Walter? Hilliman has had two terrible fumbles in 3 games on just 30 carries and he is safe? How about holding him accountable and releasing the kid? We can find dozens of other backs that can do better than 3 yards per carry.


This so much. Perfect time to make a statement cut. He brings nothing to the table and two fumbles in 30 touches when you bring nothing to the table? I hate DG for making me hate Hilliman, I"m sure he's a perfectly good guy, but that doesn't mean he belongs on an NFL roster. I really like what DG has done, but this is fucking ponderous.
RE: Maybe it is just that they are holding Tanney because  
Jay on the Island : 10/11/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14624715 NY-Fan said:
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Once Eli is gone next year they will only carry Jones and Tanney. They must like Tanney as the backup to Jones.

If the Giants feel comfortable with Tanney as the primary backup to a mobile QB like Jones then I will be very concerned about the decision makers. If they value his knowledge so much then make him a coach as others have suggested numerous times. This team needs a better backup than Jones.

There are plenty of options on the FA market. Case Keenum, Chase Daniel, Mike Glennon, Matt Moore, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Blake Bortles are better options. Hell I would rather have Geno Smith than Tanney as the primary backup. If they want to keep Tanney as the 3rd again fine but there is no reason why he should be the primary backup.
Ryan Tannehill would be the perfect backup to Jones  
Jay on the Island : 10/11/2019 12:26 pm : link
but I didn't list him because I think he will be too expensive. If he was willing to sign a 1 year deal for $5-6 million I would be thrilled to have him as Jones' backup.
Exactly  
AcidTest : 10/11/2019 12:35 pm : link
what I and many others expected. I also agree that we should have kept Walter and cut Hilliman.
They better cut Hilliman  
Anakim : 10/11/2019 12:37 pm : link
If I see him play another snap, I'm going to lose my mind. He's like Andre Williams.
or Eli told them up front  
HomerJones45 : 10/11/2019 12:38 pm : link
"Dont bother putting me in for the kid" which means Tanney is the real backup.
As expected  
ZogZerg : 10/11/2019 12:52 pm : link
..
Maybe Tanney doesn't want to be a coach just yet.  
LG in NYC : 10/11/2019 12:52 pm : link
he presumably does get a say in this, no?
RE: ...  
mrvax : 10/11/2019 12:53 pm : link
In comment 14624689 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

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It's become evident to me that Alex Tanney brings something behind scenes that Eli Manning does not. Could be breaking down film of upcoming opponents. Could be something more.

Again, I'd make him QB coach because I would use the roster spot elsewhere. But they want him as QB3.


I'd bet Tanney is amazing in the locker room kitchen.
RE: RE: Maybe it is just that they are holding Tanney because  
mrvax : 10/11/2019 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14624729 Jay on the Island said:
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If the Giants feel comfortable with Tanney as the primary backup to a mobile QB like Jones then I will be very concerned about the decision makers. If they value his knowledge so much then make him a coach as others have suggested numerous times. This team needs a better backup than Jones.

There are plenty of options on the FA market. Case Keenum, Chase Daniel, Mike Glennon, Matt Moore, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Blake Bortles are better options. Hell I would rather have Geno Smith than Tanney as the primary backup. If they want to keep Tanney as the 3rd again fine but there is no reason why he should be the primary backup.


Yep. In my non-football opinion, I'd think the ideal backup QB would be one with a similar but diminished skill set to the starter. That's probably why I don't have an NFL job.
I've heard  
VanillaVick : 10/11/2019 1:09 pm : link
He's great in the room
RE: Are you fucking kidding me?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/11/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14624710 Jay on the Island said:
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I'm not even mad that they brought Tanney back but they're keeping Hilliman over Walter? Hilliman has had two terrible fumbles in 3 games on just 30 carries and he is safe? How about holding him accountable and releasing the kid? We can find dozens of other backs that can do better than 3 yards per carry.

We need Coughlin back foaming at the mouth at a RB fumble. Heck Slayton was giving Zimmer an aneurysm.
RE: RE: RE: Maybe it is just that they are holding Tanney because  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/11/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14624799 mrvax said:
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In comment 14624729 Jay on the Island said:


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If the Giants feel comfortable with Tanney as the primary backup to a mobile QB like Jones then I will be very concerned about the decision makers. If they value his knowledge so much then make him a coach as others have suggested numerous times. This team needs a better backup than Jones.

There are plenty of options on the FA market. Case Keenum, Chase Daniel, Mike Glennon, Matt Moore, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Blake Bortles are better options. Hell I would rather have Geno Smith than Tanney as the primary backup. If they want to keep Tanney as the 3rd again fine but there is no reason why he should be the primary backup.



Yep. In my non-football opinion, I'd think the ideal backup QB would be one with a similar but diminished skill set to the starter. That's probably why I don't have an NFL job.

What about the oppurtunity to develop a young backup QB to trade??
The best part  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 10/11/2019 1:39 pm : link
is how much this bothers you guys. It's effing hilarious.
At this point,  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/11/2019 1:43 pm : link
I think it's fair to say Shurmur's thing for Tanney is alittle bit creepy. Just saying.
RE: Tanney  
MOOPS : 10/11/2019 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14624723 DanMetroMan said:
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as Jones future backup seems like a very poor move. Eventually, the Giants are going to be expected to win games, if God forbid DJ misses say 3-4 weeks, Tanney doesn't give you a chance to win games. The Giants should look at someone like Taysom Hill to back up DJ.


Tanney is not necessarily DJs future backup. Check back next year.
He's here because:
He knows the system.
He knows his place, as a mentor and not a threat to DJ.
The remote possibility that Eli gets traded he can step
play if DJ were to go down.
We're still in transition and the playoff chances this
year are remote.

Lauletta is gone because he was not a team player, he would not have been a mentor to DJ, management wanted to remove any appearance of competition at QB and with DJ being developed Lauletta would have been on the back burner.
Just in case anyone asked.
Complete insanity  
Justlurking : 10/11/2019 1:47 pm : link
They need another RB ASAP. Hilliman is not an NFL player.
LOL  
Carson53 : 10/11/2019 1:53 pm : link
That was quicker than I thought, geez I thought it would be next week. He must be 'special' in the QB room folks.
He said with tongue firmly planted in cheek...
Come on guys stop bitching already. We are overflowing with talent  
Stu11 : 10/11/2019 1:55 pm : link
didn't you see that HOF stable of RB's we trotted out there last night? There's only 1 ball guys!
RE: RE: Are you fucking kidding me?  
TommyWiseau : 10/11/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14624728 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14624710 Jay on the Island said:


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I'm not even mad that they brought Tanney back but they're keeping Hilliman over Walter? Hilliman has had two terrible fumbles in 3 games on just 30 carries and he is safe? How about holding him accountable and releasing the kid? We can find dozens of other backs that can do better than 3 yards per carry.



This so much. Perfect time to make a statement cut. He brings nothing to the table and two fumbles in 30 touches when you bring nothing to the table? I hate DG for making me hate Hilliman, I"m sure he's a perfectly good guy, but that doesn't mean he belongs on an NFL roster. I really like what DG has done, but this is fucking ponderous.


DG is not the one deciding to keep him, it is the Headcoach
RE: Complete insanity  
TommyWiseau : 10/11/2019 2:14 pm : link
In comment 14624896 Justlurking said:
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They need another RB ASAP. Hilliman is not an NFL player.


He was not a college player either. Guy sucked in college. Guy averaged 3.5 yards a carry in college, hes trash
RE: ...  
BBelle21 : 10/11/2019 2:16 pm : link
In comment 14624689 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton

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It's become evident to me that Alex Tanney brings something behind scenes that Eli Manning does not. Could be breaking down film of upcoming opponents. Could be something more.

Again, I'd make him QB coach because I would use the roster spot elsewhere. But they want him as QB3.


Well, Art, perhaps what Tanney brings is that heíll definitely be around this year? Or thereís some concern that Daniel could get seriously injured.
Two huge mistakes with this roster  
Matt M. : 10/11/2019 2:16 pm : link
especially in light of deficiencies elsewhere, are carrying 3 QBs and 5 TEs (none of which is a great blocker).
Hilliman is an integrial part  
micky : 10/11/2019 2:22 pm : link
Of this team. He's vital and one of the best players on the team
He must have  
Josiah31 : 10/11/2019 2:24 pm : link
Compromising photos of someone.
RE: Two huge mistakes with this roster  
BillT : 10/11/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14624943 Matt M. said:
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especially in light of deficiencies elsewhere, are carrying 3 QBs and 5 TEs (none of which is a great blocker).

Ummmm... We're only carrying 4 TEs.
RE: RE: Two huge mistakes with this roster  
Jay on the Island : 10/11/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14624984 BillT said:
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In comment 14624943 Matt M. said:


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especially in light of deficiencies elsewhere, are carrying 3 QBs and 5 TEs (none of which is a great blocker).


Ummmm... We're only carrying 4 TEs.

I think he meant to start the season.
Perhaps  
Montana_Giant : 10/11/2019 2:53 pm : link
Eli is not as washed up as some people think and there is real interest from a contender that needs a QB with experience. That's why Tanney is sticking around.
Backup QB  
Dragon : 10/11/2019 2:55 pm : link
Today is Eli if any of you are buying this garbage that Tanney can possibly bring more knowledge and teaching skills then Eli is just stupidity. Now ask yourself this question Jones is the QB for the present and future neither Eli or Tanney are the real backup next year. Most of us donít even know why Tanney is still on the team he surly did not earn a spot. So this is a team in full rebuild mode why is there not a young QB on the practice squad being groomed to one day be the backup going forward.

The real danger is it seems the plan is to bring our franchise back week after next since they cut the replacement for him this week. Look this is a team which might win 4-6 games being kind you donít trade draft picks for this year. However we are desperate for a third back or second back why not offer a 2021 third or fourth round pick for a young HB who is under control for two years or more. We presently have a WR and RB in concussion windows one who has now been placed there more than once. The present process is almost once in the individual is very high rate to placed in concussion evaluation once again and this process is not a short time process the second time around.
RE: Perhaps  
Jay on the Island : 10/11/2019 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14625014 Montana_Giant said:
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Eli is not as washed up as some people think and there is real interest from a contender that needs a QB with experience. That's why Tanney is sticking around.

Nobody is going to sign Tanney. If there was a team interested in Eli and the Giants agreed to the trade they could just sign Tanney off the street. If by some miracle another team did sign Tanney the Giants could just sign Lauletta off the Eagles practice squad if they needed a backup badly. There is no risk of Tanney being signed by another team.
RE: I'll always remember Walter's memorable debut  
Fort Mill Mike : 10/11/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14624678 Anakim said:
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He really left his mark on the field



And Jones' worst game as a pro was without Tanney's leadership and great mind. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!


Where's the Austin Walter appreciation thread?
Apparently, and this is a direct quote  
jcn56 : 10/11/2019 3:08 pm : link
Tanney is a 'super smart guy'.
I think you guys may be missing the obvious reason  
wonderback : 10/11/2019 3:12 pm : link
Maybe Shurmur's an asshole. We've seen asshole coaches before. Maybe he's one. It would explain lots of things.

Maybe.
RE: They better cut Hilliman  
Bluesbreaker : 10/11/2019 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14624751 Anakim said:
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If I see him play another snap, I'm going to lose my mind. He's like Andre Williams.


Hilliman Makes Orleans Darkwa look like Gayle Sayers
He isn't and NFL back period . They should have brought in a vet the moment Barley went down . No excuse !
Gettleman's a genius  
Marty866b : 10/11/2019 3:41 pm : link
Just ask him.
This Move Was Predicted...  
Jim in Tampa : 10/11/2019 4:00 pm : link
By at least a half a dozen posters on the "Tanney has been cut" thread.

It seemed pretty obvious that they only wanted Walter as insurance for the Pats game and that Tanney would be back.

I'm also assuming that the Giants not only value Tanney "in the room" but they are also looking at him as a backup QB for next year when Eli is gone. Which is why the beats' calls to make Tanney the QB coach don't make any sense.
RE: RE: Maybe it is just that they are holding Tanney because  
Jay in Toronto : 10/11/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14624717 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14624715 NY-Fan said:


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Once Eli is gone next year they will only carry Jones and Tanney. They must like Tanney as the backup to Jones.



Or gone this year?


Yes that theory is making the rounds. Would make this move rational.
It's not like the Giants are the only team to see something in Tanney  
Milton : 10/11/2019 4:40 pm : link
He's been around the league as a backup for years, so the Giants aren't alone. Obviously he has NFL value. And it's not as if he's aged out of his usefulness.

Next year Tanney can serve as the primary backup. At some point, maybe next year, maybe the year after, the Giants will use a Day 3 pick on a developmental prospect (like Lauletta, Webb, Nassib, etc) but even then they would likely prefer a veteran QB as primary backup.

p.s.--We know very little about Tanney and what he brings to the table compared to what Shurmur knows. And Shurmur didn't just fall off the turnip truck. He knows QBs and knows how to maximize their value (just ask Case Keenum!). If he thinks Tanney deserves a roster spot, we should try to figure out what it is he sees in him, rather than just dismiss him as a fool.
The roster has holes everywhere and with Ele 'in the room'...  
Torrag : 10/11/2019 5:04 pm : link
there is no need for tanney. If required he couldn't win a game if his life depended on it. Use the roster spot somewhere it's needed for fucksake.
RE: It's not like the Giants are the only team to see something in Tanney  
Jay on the Island : 10/11/2019 5:24 pm : link
In comment 14625180 Milton said:
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He's been around the league as a backup for years, so the Giants aren't alone. Obviously he has NFL value. And it's not as if he's aged out of his usefulness.

Next year Tanney can serve as the primary backup. At some point, maybe next year, maybe the year after, the Giants will use a Day 3 pick on a developmental prospect (like Lauletta, Webb, Nassib, etc) but even then they would likely prefer a veteran QB as primary backup.

p.s.--We know very little about Tanney and what he brings to the table compared to what Shurmur knows. And Shurmur didn't just fall off the turnip truck. He knows QBs and knows how to maximize their value (just ask Case Keenum!). If he thinks Tanney deserves a roster spot, we should try to figure out what it is he sees in him, rather than just dismiss him as a fool.

If the Giants plan on drafting a developmental QB in the 2020 draft then it makes more sense to keep Tanney. However, a team with playoff aspirations shouldn't have Tanney as the primary backup when their starting QB can run like Jones. If Jones is out 2-3 games then Tanney is not someone you want starting.

Now there are a few very good backup options available next year. That doesn't even include vets like Ryan Fitzpatrick who are likely to be cut. Case Keenum makes too much sense IMO.
Is QB coach that simple? Money wise  
twostepgiants : 10/12/2019 8:22 pm : link
Alex Tanney signed a 2 year, $2,150,000 contract with the New York Giants, including a $75,000 signing bonus, $75,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,075,000.


How much does a QB coach make? I canít imagine itís alot

He's  
uther99 : 10/12/2019 8:43 pm : link
The 2020 backup QB, that's what they see in him
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