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D backs were really awful last night..

buster : 10/11/2019 3:16 pm
Especially with their wrapping up skills! I must have counted at least 6 tackles which should have been easy wrap ups

Maybe some strength exercises might be helpfull

But it ain't Shurmur !!!

Amazing how everyone around here is so intent to find a goat..
General Managers make a lot more sense
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BleedBlue : 10/11/2019 3:22 pm : link
Is mason foster available? I think that would help LBers. The secondary though....just have a couple young guys. I expect to see more love and ballentine as season goes on
Secondary  
ChicagoMarty : 10/11/2019 4:13 pm : link
needs to take a lesson from the Pats

Less zone more man

Less soft cover and more press

Refs are afraid to call pass interference and video replays almost never over rule calls or no calls more to the point which practically begs a more physical cover by the db's which we seem to rarely do
Said the same thing about DB tackling  
Bill in TN : 10/11/2019 4:16 pm : link
to my friend about an hour ago. Specifically the full speed whiff by Peppers in the 2Q on a 3rd & 6 or so. Would have stopped the Pats right there, but no, they get a 1st down.
These guys don't know how to control their game speed.
And the Pats  
Bill in TN : 10/11/2019 4:17 pm : link
will never be called for PI.
This is what young players do  
JonC : 10/11/2019 4:18 pm : link
Bethea is terrible to boot.
RE: This is what young players do  
arcarsenal : 10/11/2019 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14625148 JonC said:
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Bethea is terrible to boot.


Bethea looks like a slug. I really thought he'd have a little more in the tank than this. He's bad
I am concerned that the level of athleticism in the secondary is not  
cosmicj : 10/11/2019 4:21 pm : link
Up to scratch. While Baker and Haley posted decent combine results, they donít look fast and quick on the field. Bethea is old and slow. Iím concerned that there is a physical talent deficit.

Only Jenkins and Peppers seem to have the requisite level of athleticism, at least to my eyes. Am very curious to see Beal and Ballantine out there as they work them in.
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2019 4:22 pm : link
Haley I think that's fair on, but Baker looks like a player to me. I'm not worried about his athleticism or speed at all. His coverage has been getting better each week and he's not getting beat nearly as much as he was earlier.
bethea  
japanhead : 10/11/2019 4:29 pm : link
looked next to useless out there. slow, bad angles, constantly shying away from any kind of action.
With the youngsters  
Earl the goat : 10/11/2019 4:37 pm : link
Baker Ballantine Beal Love and Peppers thereís a lot to look forward to
When we get a consistent pass rush the secondary will look stellar
Baker  
Carl in CT : 10/11/2019 4:39 pm : link
Did not play bad I thought. Couple of catches against but stellar against the run.
No, that's not on Shurmur  
Giantology : 10/11/2019 4:46 pm : link
But bad in game management/decisions, time management, playcalling, are.
RE: And the Pats  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/11/2019 5:42 pm : link
In comment 14625147 Bill in TN said:
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will never be called for PI.
this
RE: This is what young players do  
Vanzetti : 10/11/2019 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14625148 JonC said:
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Bethea is terrible to boot.


A lot of DBs donít like to tackle or hit. Jenkins is one Apple was another. Baker might be one too. Peppers loves to hit. He just has to learn to play under control
Expect more of Ballentine and Love  
DavidinBMNY : 10/11/2019 11:31 pm : link
From here on in. This is a longer week, more time to prepare and at the point where these guys should be ready for more.

I'd expect a moderate pick up now and potentially a big shift after the bye.
let Baker play man , watching him turn his man loose  
gtt350 : 10/12/2019 9:24 am : link
and two steps later it's a completed pass drives me crazy
Bethea  
TommyWiseau : 10/12/2019 9:37 am : link
Is trash, he needs to go
RE: Expect more of Ballentine and Love  
ron mexico : 10/12/2019 9:39 am : link
In comment 14625496 DavidinBMNY said:
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From here on in. This is a longer week, more time to prepare and at the point where these guys should be ready for more.

I'd expect a moderate pick up now and potentially a big shift after the bye.


Players are off for the weekend
Who watched  
XBRONX : 10/12/2019 9:49 am : link
Bethea from last year and thought yes we need to sign him?
RE: RE: This is what young players do  
section125 : 10/12/2019 9:56 am : link
In comment 14625461 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 14625148 JonC said:


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Bethea is terrible to boot.



A lot of DBs donít like to tackle or hit. Jenkins is one Apple was another. Baker might be one too. Peppers loves to hit. He just has to learn to play under control


Actually Baker made some good tackles. He took White out for a loss where he really smacked him.
Agree that Jenkins is inconsistent. I think he hurt his shoulder last week - saw him get up and look in pain.

Peppers just whiffed on that third and 7, think he had another one later in the game he did the same. What he hits normally gets put down, but sometimes he commits and a small juke causes him to miss. The one area that Collins was better at is tackling.
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