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NFT: A Kenyan shattered the 2 hour marathon ... by 20 seconds.

Jim from Katonah : 10/12/2019 10:10 am
He averaged 4 minute 33 second miles for 26 miles.

For perspective, if you run a 3 hour marathon, you’ll be in the top 2% of all men in the race. He averaged 13mph — next time you’re on a treadmill, get a taste of what 13mph feels like ....

Maybe not quite a Bob Beamon moment — it was an exhibition geared towards this gentleman succeeding — but still pretty damn cool.



https://mobile.twitter.com/eliudkipchoge/status/1182934782684123136?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.espn.com%2f

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-7565337/Eliud-Kipchoge-begins-attempt-beat-two-hour-marathon-barrier-Vienna.html
UFB  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/12/2019 10:15 am : link
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Jim from Katonah : 10/12/2019 10:25 am : link
Some more perspective for non-runners — on your average high school cross country meet, one of our wiry, superfast sons might run at 5K at a 5:30 mile pace

4:33. For 26 miles.
Craziest of all is  
mfsd : 10/12/2019 10:53 am : link
he didn’t even look that tired at the end. Amazing level of conditioning and ability
I get he did all the training and all  
micky : 10/12/2019 11:02 am : link
And did run in Berlin a 2:01:26 Wr a couple yrs ago, but do it on unfixed, and ideal place (course) and perfected pace setters positions and so forth conditions, and then be very impressed than this seeked out climate in Vienna
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micky : 10/12/2019 11:03 am : link
In comment 14625625 mfsd said:
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he didn’t even look that tired at the end. Amazing level of conditioning and ability


A physiology and training specifics and so forth, combine with ideal talent..made the perfect time
Numbers breakdown  
micky : 10/12/2019 11:07 am : link
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christian : 10/12/2019 11:07 am : link
It's an interesting human endurance challenge, but it's very different than running a 2 hour marathon.

It's seems like a fantastic training exercise though, and I would be surprised to see him break 2 hours in a real race if he starts pushing himself in this way.
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micky : 10/12/2019 11:13 am : link
In comment 14625633 christian said:
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It's an interesting human endurance challenge, but it's very different than running a 2 hour marathon.

It's seems like a fantastic training exercise though, and I would be surprised to see him break 2 hours in a real race if he starts pushing himself in this way.


Only course without preset conditions (like this project) and a world major, would be at Berlin. Lets see him do it there. NY and Boston you'd never see this occur because in ny the bridges and Boston 16 thru 20 mile "heartbreak hill" those 2 i'd highly doubt the 2 hr barrier broken there
an interesting part of this story is the state of the art tech  
Giantsfan79 : 10/12/2019 11:25 am : link
he used to do this. His shoes that have been questioned for aiding performance. He also ran behind this car that shot a laser beam for him to follow.



The laser grid to where pace would be  
micky : 10/12/2019 11:31 am : link
For 2 hr barrier

Technology of the racing flats today, nike zoomx vaporfly has shown and proven to cut time by its design.
Yes,  
section125 : 10/12/2019 12:53 pm : link
truly UFB...
My best was a 4:38 mile in High School  
Vanzetti : 10/12/2019 2:14 pm : link
And I won all of our individual meets

Averaging 4:33 is insane
It's  
AcidTest : 10/12/2019 2:19 pm : link
an incredible achievement. Like breaking the four minute mile. The conditions and course don't diminish what he did.
In related news,  
MOOPS : 10/12/2019 2:46 pm : link
the laser used to guide the participants has at least temporarily blinded all the runners.
RE: My best was a 4:38 mile in High School  
gtt350 : 10/12/2019 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14625783 Vanzetti said:
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And I won all of our individual meets

Averaging 4:33 is insane


that time in HS is tremendous. did you get
a track scholorship?
It really is hard to comprehend.  
Diver_Down : 10/12/2019 3:02 pm : link
Not just a 4:33 mile for a few, but a sustained pace for 26.

The best I ever did was a 5:12 min./mile for a 5K. I can't even fathom running 26 miles no less at that sustained pace. I had a friend in college who was into distance running. He would run 20-30 miles before dinner a few times a week.
Natural for those guys  
lugnut : 10/12/2019 9:18 pm : link
Comes from running around the jungle with a tiger on their butt. — Archie Bunker
Im a running nerd  
huygens20 : 10/12/2019 11:35 pm : link
The shoe is a huge factor

The next% and vaporfly have a carbon fiber insert that gives the runner energy return on every footstrike. In a regular shoe the energy you send into the ground dissipates from the foam to road and there is energy loss when the foam bounces back in your foot on every strike. The plate helps store that energy for the bounce back better. So basically his foot is on the ground less and his quads do less work lifting his foot up.
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BlueLou'sBack : 10/13/2019 12:40 am : link
In comment 14625607 Jim from Katonah said:
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Some more perspective for non-runners — on your average high school cross country meet, one of our wiry, superfast sons might run at 5K at a 5:30 mile pace

4:33. For 26 miles.


I tried to explain this to a non athlete once. He didn't believe me that marathoners "run."

He thought they jogged 26 miles. He was a short, swarthy guy. I tried to explain to him that marathoners - I have a friend who is a good one, not professional level, but serious - run the entire 26 miles faster than my little swarthy friend could "run" a 40 yard dash.

He just didn't believe that was at all possible!
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halfback20 : 10/13/2019 6:23 am : link
In comment 14626268 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14625607 Jim from Katonah said:


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Some more perspective for non-runners — on your average high school cross country meet, one of our wiry, superfast sons might run at 5K at a 5:30 mile pace

4:33. For 26 miles.



I tried to explain this to a non athlete once. He didn't believe me that marathoners "run."

He thought they jogged 26 miles. He was a short, swarthy guy. I tried to explain to him that marathoners - I have a friend who is a good one, not professional level, but serious - run the entire 26 miles faster than my little swarthy friend could "run" a 40 yard dash.

He just didn't believe that was at all possible!


If you really want to blow his mind, tell him about ultra running.

Zach Bitter set the 100 mile world record not long ago. 100 miles at a 6:47 pace. Jim Walmsley did 50 miles at a sub 6 minute pace.

People run 100 mile races, hell, 200 and 300 mile races at incredible paces and on rugged terrain.
Walmsley has incredible endurance.  
MOOPS : 10/13/2019 12:31 pm : link
He set THe Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim record a few years ago at 5:55.20 for the 42 mile trek.
That's down, across the bottom, up, down, across the bottom again and back up.
RE: Walmsley has incredible endurance.  
halfback20 : 10/13/2019 2:16 pm : link
In comment 14626528 MOOPS said:
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He set THe Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim record a few years ago at 5:55.20 for the 42 mile trek.
That's down, across the bottom, up, down, across the bottom again and back up.


Also owns the course record for Western States.
I just want to know where I can buy those shoes....  
JOrthman : 10/13/2019 6:35 pm : link
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Chris in Philly : 10/13/2019 7:27 pm : link
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They might improve your time from 9 hours to 8 hours and 55 minutes. :)
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JOrthman : 10/13/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14627087 Chris in Philly said:
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They might improve your time from 9 hours to 8 hours and 55 minutes. :)


Hey I'm getting older and fatter I need every second I can get.
RE: I just want to know where I can buy those shoes....  
micky : 10/13/2019 8:09 pm : link
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Got about $250.00? Lol
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JOrthman : 10/13/2019 8:23 pm : link
In comment 14627166 micky said:
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Got about $250.00? Lol Link - ( New Window )


I guess I should of bought them before he broke the record.
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micky : 10/14/2019 6:18 am : link
Is it..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/14/2019 8:12 am : link
true that the sub-2 hour run won't count as an official record?
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halfback20 : 10/14/2019 8:13 am : link
In comment 14627924 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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true that the sub-2 hour run won't count as an official record?


Yes.
Still..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/14/2019 8:23 am : link
damn impressive, but if you run a sub 2 hour race - that should count.
His 2:01 in Berlin was more impressive  
micky : 10/14/2019 10:10 am : link
Because not controlled environment and conditions.

Aside, still greatest marathoner Kipchoge is this day and age. Old P Sang did great work with him
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