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Does anyone have an update on EE Injury and timeline?

Rafflee : 10/12/2019 11:26 am
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As we all know, he has a knee  
jc in c-ville : 10/12/2019 11:34 am : link
As we all also know, EE is not the freak that SB is so probably later than sooner.
I'm expecting him to be good  
Jay on the Island : 10/12/2019 11:46 am : link
for the Cards game. 10 days off should be enough for Engram and Barkley.
RE: I'm expecting him to be good  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/12/2019 11:47 am : link
In comment 14625666 Jay on the Island said:
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for the Cards game. 10 days off should be enough for Engram and Barkley.


2 weeks would be the minimum for his injury.
Sprained MCL  
Emlen'sGremlins : 10/12/2019 11:50 am : link
His wheels are his whole game. See him after the bye at the earliest.
Hes got a knee  
McNally's_Nuts : 10/12/2019 12:04 pm : link
- Tom Coughlin
I have no idea how people speak with such  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/12/2019 12:05 pm : link
certainty about an individual they've never examined, much less if they know anything about the medical field.
RE: I have no idea how people speak with such  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/12/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14625683 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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certainty about an individual they've never examined, much less if they know anything about the medical field.


Well usually you can glean a picture from the injury and what the practice reports say. He was limited in practice this week. I'd say its 50/50 he goes in Arizona, but we will get a clearer picture next week.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/12/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14625684 Zeke's Alibi said:
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certainty about an individual they've never examined, much less if they know anything about the medical field.



Well usually you can glean a picture from the injury and what the practice reports say. He was limited in practice this week. I'd say its 50/50 he goes in Arizona, but we will get a clearer picture next week.


I get it. I was just having a little fun.
I mean I agree with you, the absolute certainty people speak with is  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/12/2019 12:16 pm : link
ridiculous.
RE: I mean I agree with you, the absolute certainty people speak with is  
Jay on the Island : 10/12/2019 12:19 pm : link
In comment 14625688 Zeke's Alibi said:
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ridiculous.

Where did anyone say he was definitely playing or not? I said that I expected him to be good because he was limited in practice last week and now has 10 days to rest. I don't think he will be 100% but I am hopeful he will give it a go.
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Giantz_comeback : 10/12/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14625689 Jay on the Island said:
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ridiculous.


Where did anyone say he was definitely playing or not? I said that I expected him to be good because he was limited in practice last week and now has 10 days to rest. I don't think he will be 100% but I am hopeful he will give it a go.


If he practiced limited already that's usually a good sign. With another week he may be ready to give it a go.
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Jim in Tampa : 10/12/2019 1:08 pm : link
In comment 14625684 Zeke's Alibi said:
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certainty about an individual they've never examined, much less if they know anything about the medical field.



Well usually you can glean a picture from the injury and what the practice reports say. He was limited in practice this week. I'd say its 50/50 he goes in Arizona, but we will get a clearer picture next week.

He's not serious. He's just poking fun at people like me who take exception to posters making RECOMMENDATIONS as to when a football player should return to action... as in, "I'd sit Barkley for at least two more games, just to be sure."

There's no issue with people making PREDICTIONS as to when a player WILL return... but it's kind of dumb to make recommendations on when said player SHOULD return, unless you are a Giants' trainer or the player's doctor.
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Jay on the Island : 10/12/2019 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14625720 Jim in Tampa said:
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He's not serious. He's just poking fun at people like me who take exception to posters making RECOMMENDATIONS as to when a football player should return to action... as in, "I'd sit Barkley for at least two more games, just to be sure."

There's no issue with people making PREDICTIONS as to when a player WILL return... but it's kind of dumb to make recommendations on when said player SHOULD return, unless you are a Giants' trainer or the player's doctor.

I agree that suggesting a player SHOULD return is ridiculous. It's not smart to rush back from injury especially during a non-playoff season. It would be nice to have a long stretch where we have at least Barkley and Engram healthy at the same time.
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Jim in Tampa : 10/12/2019 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14625732 Jay on the Island said:
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He's not serious. He's just poking fun at people like me who take exception to posters making RECOMMENDATIONS as to when a football player should return to action... as in, "I'd sit Barkley for at least two more games, just to be sure."

There's no issue with people making PREDICTIONS as to when a player WILL return... but it's kind of dumb to make recommendations on when said player SHOULD return, unless you are a Giants' trainer or the player's doctor.


I agree that suggesting a player SHOULD return is ridiculous. It's not smart to rush back from injury especially during a non-playoff season. It would be nice to have a long stretch where we have at least Barkley and Engram healthy at the same time.

I can't speak for others, but I've suggested that a player should return when the doctors and team trainer(s) clear him to play, and the coaches and the player himself feel he should return.

Crazy suggestion I know. When a player is cleared to play the team should probably take a poll first to make sure the fans think it's a good idea.
Jim the issue with that is being cleared to play in the NFL is way  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/12/2019 1:58 pm : link
different than the rest of the medical world. In the NFL they clear guys to play when the risk/reward proposition becomes acceptable and if they think he can be effective. Two weeks after spraining and MCL I would say there is likely to still be instability in the knee.

Now I'm sure he'll be cleared and they will look at this as a must win game because in reality it is. If they lose to Arizona they can kiss any playoff chance goodbye. I actually think SB may have been cleared for the Pats, but they were looking towards Arizona as the must win game and rather have him closer to fully healthy. Washington Post had an article about this some years back.
Zeke's Alibi  
fkap : 10/12/2019 2:23 pm : link
+1

There are cases where the BBI medical staff is a little assertive when they know diddly about the particulars, but the case Jim is referencing isn't one of them.
RE: Jim the issue with that is being cleared to play in the NFL is way  
Jim in Tampa : 10/12/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14625769 Zeke's Alibi said:
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different than the rest of the medical world. In the NFL they clear guys to play when the risk/reward proposition becomes acceptable and if they think he can be effective. Two weeks after spraining and MCL I would say there is likely to still be instability in the knee.

Now I'm sure he'll be cleared and they will look at this as a must win game because in reality it is. If they lose to Arizona they can kiss any playoff chance goodbye. I actually think SB may have been cleared for the Pats, but they were looking towards Arizona as the must win game and rather have him closer to fully healthy. Washington Post had an article about this some years back.

You're making a lot of assumptions based on general knowledge from an article you read, but with no specific "inside" medical info on either EE and SB.

You THINK Barkley may have cleared to play versus the Pats, but you don't actually know.

You THINK the Giants choose to hold Barkley out of the Pats game because they'd rather have him "fully healthy" for the AZ game...but you don't know that either.

You're speculating...and that's fine. But as soon as you or any other fan starts actually recommending when THEY think a player should return to action...it's just dumb.

I can guarantee it though that leading up to the AZ game some BBIers are going to continue to post that Barkley and/or EE should be held out of that game too. You know...just to be sure.
Guy asked a question  
joeinpa : 10/12/2019 4:22 pm : link
Jay answered it to best of his ability. Why give him grief?
RE: Guy asked a question  
Jim in Tampa : 10/12/2019 6:20 pm : link
In comment 14625886 joeinpa said:
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Jay answered it to best of his ability. Why give him grief?

Not sure why having a sports discussion is considered giving someone "grief" but if you insist on that lable, my grief was intended for SFGFNC Giants fan.

He seemed to be suggesting that there were people on this site who were saying that other posters shouldn't make PREDICTIONS on when they think a player will return, when they haven't examined the player and aren't in the medical field.

Except not a single poster suggested that someone needed medical training or first-hand knowledge of the player's injury to simply make a prediction as to when the player would return.

Everyone on BBI makes football predictions.

There were however a number of posters, myself included, who suggested that all those "I would hold him out for another week just to be sure" recommendations, were kind of dumb.

And FYI, the answer to the OP's question (Does anyone have an update on EE Injury and timeline?) is no. No one has an actual update.
Jim,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/12/2019 6:53 pm : link
I was having some fun. Relax man.
I would say  
dan518 : 10/13/2019 12:19 am : link
That Barkley should return next week and Engrem the week after. Wait, er, i mean. Disregard.
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