Giants have 16 in five games, which is tied for the sixth-most in the NFL. The sacks have been spread out among 10 players with Golden leading the way with five.
Is it something? or nothing?
It's definitely something. Golden turned out to be a great signing. Â
against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
The team as a whole is quality opponent. But their OL is trash this year with Brady a statue in the pocket. We couldn't run Marshall Shithouse out of town fast enough. But he was locking down Brady's blindside. Grading on the sliding scale, I would say our defensive pass rush was terrible against the Pats. We should have been able to torment Brady all night.
RE: It's definitely something. Golden turned out to be a great signing. Â
Lawrence helps on the dl and Ximines has some ability. Our pass rush is much better than I expected before the season.
I think Lawrence is the biggest reason. When he is in, he gives the an no where to step up. If BJ starts getting some sacks too we may really have something in the middle. I think another disrupted in the middle could lesson the need for an Elite edge. We may just need fast edge rushers that can get upfield quickly like carter.
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against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
The team as a whole is quality opponent. But their OL is trash this year with Brady a statue in the pocket. We couldn't run Marshall Shithouse out of town fast enough. But he was locking down Brady's blindside. Grading on the sliding scale, I would say our defensive pass rush was terrible against the Pats. We should have been able to torment Brady all night.
next week because if his unique mobility, but there may be opportunities. Anyway, it’s good to see a semblance of a Pass Rush, but I think the Giants still need that Pass Rusher opposite of Golden that will cause DCs to have sleepless nights. Can’t ever have enough pass rushers, especially in this passing league now. Look for the Giants to grab an Edge guy next year to pair with Golden, and that’s if the Giants re-sign Golden, of course.
RE: RE: Like most other things - too soon to tell Â
against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
Teams as a. norm do not accumulate sacks against the better teams. Giants pass rush is better, there are no qualifiers
If a team has a great offense and a great defense... Â
Nice to see our pass rush improving (wasn't expecting 6th at this point), but then it really highlights how terrible the secondary is. We are something like 30th in pass defense this year.
RE: RE: RE: Like most other things - too soon to tell Â
against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
The team as a whole is quality opponent. But their OL is trash this year with Brady a statue in the pocket. We couldn't run Marshall Shithouse out of town fast enough. But he was locking down Brady's blindside. Grading on the sliding scale, I would say our defensive pass rush was terrible against the Pats. We should have been able to torment Brady all night.
Keep in mind that Brady gets the ball out very quickly and the fact that we got to him 3 times, to include a sack fumble, means that the secondary was also doing its job. They work hand in hand. That impressed me the most.
next week because if his unique mobility, but there may be opportunities. Anyway, it’s good to see a semblance of a Pass Rush, but I think the Giants still need that Pass Rusher opposite of Golden that will cause DCs to have sleepless nights. Can’t ever have enough pass rushers, especially in this passing league now. Look for the Giants to grab an Edge guy next year to pair with Golden, and that’s if the Giants re-sign Golden, of course.
Let's wait until the end of the year to see what Carter, Ximines and Shipper do the rest of the year. I think OT and ILB are bigger needs. Yes pass rush is important, but some inside help would help the QB pressures, too.
After seeing Solder and Remmers flail about, the oline is in more need of help. But as always, grab the best player available at their draft position.
anyone thinking otherwise is lying to themselves. We stunk last year and played plenty of shit teams without much success getting to the QB so I don’t buy that as being an excuse for success so far this year.
Not only sacks but pressure. We were an inch away from another sack (likely fumble the way Brady held the ball) on Thursday as well. Sure they disappear for stretches because we don’t have an elite rusher but it’s much better than last year.
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against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
The team as a whole is quality opponent. But their OL is trash this year with Brady a statue in the pocket. We couldn't run Marshall Shithouse out of town fast enough. But he was locking down Brady's blindside. Grading on the sliding scale, I would say our defensive pass rush was terrible against the Pats. We should have been able to torment Brady all night.
A little misleading on Marshall as they had a TE help him out most of the passing downs. Go back and watch.
including 2 games with 0 (one being the Bills). He’s always been good at avoiding the sack despite being a statue. So I don’t buy the line excuse either, well not very good it hasn’t translated into that many sacks given up outside of the last 2 games (I know they have some injuries now).
anyone thinking otherwise is lying to themselves. We stunk last year and played plenty of shit teams without much success getting to the QB so I don’t buy that as being an excuse for success so far this year.
Not only sacks but pressure. We were an inch away from another sack (likely fumble the way Brady held the ball) on Thursday as well. Sure they disappear for stretches because we don’t have an elite rusher but it’s much better than last year.
I'd agree, I'd say our pass rush is probably middle of the road right now, which is encouraging after what we saw in preseason.
I think Lawrence has been the biggest difference maker so far in the pass rush. On the defensive TD strip sack he took on 3 blockers and still provided push to collapse the pocket. He is just a beast of a human being and if he continues to get better he can be a top DT in the league in the not too distant future.
I think Lawrence has been the biggest difference maker so far in the pass rush. On the defensive TD strip sack he took on 3 blockers and still provided push to collapse the pocket. He is just a beast of a human being and if he continues to get better he can be a top DT in the league in the not too distant future.
I'm certain he's a big part of our improved run D, thinking back on last year w/o Snacks and Collins, likely is and will play a big role in our pass rush. Hopefully he turns out to be a 340 lb Justin Smuth.
Was IMO and w more of a talent to get to the QB. Between all the youth, Bethea’s corpse trying to play FS, and the injures ar LB the pass rush can only be seen as better.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
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against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
The team as a whole is quality opponent. But their OL is trash this year with Brady a statue in the pocket. We couldn't run Marshall Shithouse out of town fast enough. But he was locking down Brady's blindside. Grading on the sliding scale, I would say our defensive pass rush was terrible against the Pats. We should have been able to torment Brady all night.
I think Lawrence is the biggest reason. When he is in, he gives the an no where to step up. If BJ starts getting some sacks too we may really have something in the middle. I think another disrupted in the middle could lesson the need for an Elite edge. We may just need fast edge rushers that can get upfield quickly like carter.
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against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
The team as a whole is quality opponent. But their OL is trash this year with Brady a statue in the pocket. We couldn't run Marshall Shithouse out of town fast enough. But he was locking down Brady's blindside. Grading on the sliding scale, I would say our defensive pass rush was terrible against the Pats. We should have been able to torment Brady all night.
Yeah, uh, ok.
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against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
Teams as a. norm do not accumulate sacks against the better teams. Giants pass rush is better, there are no qualifiers
...then the defense will probably face a minimum of plays.
Therefore, total sacks would be a very misleading stat.
The figure should really be total number of sacks per 100 offensive pass plays. Or, "per" whatever you want it to be.
I think opposing QBs have a lot of time to throw against our offense.
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against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
The team as a whole is quality opponent. But their OL is trash this year with Brady a statue in the pocket. We couldn't run Marshall Shithouse out of town fast enough. But he was locking down Brady's blindside. Grading on the sliding scale, I would say our defensive pass rush was terrible against the Pats. We should have been able to torment Brady all night.
Keep in mind that Brady gets the ball out very quickly and the fact that we got to him 3 times, to include a sack fumble, means that the secondary was also doing its job. They work hand in hand. That impressed me the most.
Let's wait until the end of the year to see what Carter, Ximines and Shipper do the rest of the year. I think OT and ILB are bigger needs. Yes pass rush is important, but some inside help would help the QB pressures, too.
After seeing Solder and Remmers flail about, the oline is in more need of help. But as always, grab the best player available at their draft position.
Not only sacks but pressure. We were an inch away from another sack (likely fumble the way Brady held the ball) on Thursday as well. Sure they disappear for stretches because we don’t have an elite rusher but it’s much better than last year.
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against quality opponents teams have had all day to pass. They looked pretty good against the Pats, whose OL has been problematic and it was a short week.
Some low caliber opponents are coming up - if they're actually good at rushing the passer, they should be able to put up some stats against them.
Didn't they have 3 sacks against the Pats. I'd say that was a quality opponent.
The team as a whole is quality opponent. But their OL is trash this year with Brady a statue in the pocket. We couldn't run Marshall Shithouse out of town fast enough. But he was locking down Brady's blindside. Grading on the sliding scale, I would say our defensive pass rush was terrible against the Pats. We should have been able to torment Brady all night.
A little misleading on Marshall as they had a TE help him out most of the passing downs. Go back and watch.
Not only sacks but pressure. We were an inch away from another sack (likely fumble the way Brady held the ball) on Thursday as well. Sure they disappear for stretches because we don’t have an elite rusher but it’s much better than last year.
I'd agree, I'd say our pass rush is probably middle of the road right now, which is encouraging after what we saw in preseason.
Pass rush is adequate. Coverage is generally adequate. Too many first downs off of short completions that extend drives.
Is our coverage good??
Pass rush is adequate. Coverage is generally adequate. Too many first downs off of short completions that extend drives.
I tend to agree with you about missing tackles extending drives and stupid penalties.
I'm certain he's a big part of our improved run D, thinking back on last year w/o Snacks and Collins, likely is and will play a big role in our pass rush. Hopefully he turns out to be a 340 lb Justin Smuth.