It is analytically the correct play most of the time when that situation presents itself, which is rare. A kicker has a far better chance, probably at least twice the chance, of making a 55-60 yard FG with no rush than a QB throwing a hail mary from midfield
And Kyle Allen looks legit. Talent was never a question with him. Kid was universally considered the top HS QB in his class.
It's funny that the Giants had two of the best kickers in the NFL on their roster this offseason while the Jets couldn't even find a decent one. The Jets could have had Slye as a FA and solved their kicker issue.
make some dumbass reads in terms of blocking. He literally runs around KC's block right into the DB like an idiot. Sure it was a decent gain, but it would have been 30-40-50 if he just cut behind the damn block. Doesn't even have to be a great one, he just had to be in position like he was...
I'm actually rooting for the Skins to win this. I don't want them ending up with the 1st overall pick. I hope they win a few and finish with the 7th-10th instead. I don't want them getting TUa, Andrew Thomas, Jerry Jeudy, Chase Young, etc.
They got killed for doing shit like running PA in formations they don't even run out of the week before we played them. They clearly did some self scouting since than.
Could not get separation. Watching the Eagles and Vikings. Refs are allowing the Viking DB’s to hold and pass interfere. It’s blatant. Fix is in.
I really hate Thursday games too.
Could not get separation. Watching the Eagles and Vikings. Refs are allowing the Viking DB’s to hold and pass interfere. It’s blatant. Fix is in.
I really hate Thursday games too.
Have we ever won a TNF game? Or a recent SNF game ? I can't remember. We always seem to get humiliated on prime time
Could not get separation. Watching the Eagles and Vikings. Refs are allowing the Viking DB’s to hold and pass interfere. It’s blatant. Fix is in.
I really hate Thursday games too.
Even though the Giants aren't playing let's all bitch about officiating. Giants don't get separation because the receivers aren't very good.
And the color commentator giving the Eagles credit for being aggressive, saying "that's in their DNA." That color commentator is crazy.
--If you're even thinking about faking a FG there you might as well go for it with your offense on the field because the opponent's special teams are playing FG safe anyway
--Don't challenge a defense on 4th down on the road unless you have no choice. Best move there is to take the points, especially with no timeouts
Decision to fake there was stupid. Everyone knows Pederson likes Â
Could not get separation. Watching the Eagles and Vikings. Refs are allowing the Viking DB’s to hold and pass interfere. It’s blatant. Fix is in.
I really hate Thursday games too.
Have we ever won a TNF game? Or a recent SNF game ? I can't remember. We always seem to get humiliated on prime time
They killed Carolina 36-7 in 2012 on Thursday night. Ramsey Barden's game of his career.
They got killed for doing shit like running PA in formations they don't even run out of the week before we played them. They clearly did some self scouting since than.
Shermer and the Giants were Cousins their get right game :(
Can't run the ball and can't stop it. Not a good formula. Wonder if they move on from Reid if they have a quick exit.
I must disagree a bit. They don't even attempt to run the ball. Everything is shotgun formation and Mahomes throwing the ball. It's like back in the day with Andy when he would forget that teams are allowed to run the ball too.
Can't run the ball and can't stop it. Not a good formula. Wonder if they move on from Reid if they have a quick exit.
I must disagree a bit. They don't even attempt to run the ball. Everything is shotgun formation and Mahomes throwing the ball. It's like back in the day with Andy when he would forget that teams are allowed to run the ball too.
Could be right. I remember with the Eagles they ran more. Certainly he had a far better defense and DC.
Philadelphia. He usually ran the ball against the Giants for some reason, probably because it worked and the Giants' offense would turn the ball over enough tolose.
Reality check? In 6 games he's got over 2100 passing yards with 14 TDs and 1 INT. While completing 64% of his passes. I hope my QB gets reality checks like that.
Cleveland just lost a game they had no business losing. Â
Is Twitter and the media gonna kill Mayfield like they have Jones? That'll be interesting to see.
Jones has the same number of TD passes and more rushing TDs in 2 less games. Also has 5 less INTs.
Baker Mayfield is the prime example of why you have to wait a couple of years to see what you have in a qb. Can't get too high on a guy until they do it consistently. Mahomes being the outlier because he's done it consistently since the start.
eagles lose to a cousins led vikes team they talked shit on as he throws for 4 TDs.. great sunday so far, and taking the edge off of the giants getting embarrassed in the second half at foxboro three days ago.
Could not get separation. Watching the Eagles and Vikings. Refs are allowing the Viking DB’s to hold and pass interfere. It’s blatant. Fix is in.
I really hate Thursday games too.
Have we ever won a TNF game? Or a recent SNF game ? I can't remember. We always seem to get humiliated on prime time
I remember beating the 49ers on SNF in 2015, not all that recent but the first one that came to mind. We beat them on MNF last year.
Dan Quinn has to be on the hot seat right? He's a defensive guy and his defense is playing like our was weeks 1-3. Huge blown assignments every series. Awful.
Dan Quinn has to be on the hot seat right? He's a defensive guy and his defense is playing like our was weeks 1-3. Huge blown assignments every series. Awful.
Sports are funny. Falcons probably would love to go back and keep Kyle Shanahan and dump Dan Quinn. They have defensive injuries, but the whole team looks like shit now. They were scoring almost the same PPG as the Giants coming into this week.
going for that missing their two tackles was as bad as Shurmur not going for it on fourth and two.
Great throw by Darnold. It was a bit of a ballon ball that I thought the deep safety might intercept, but he was just a tad too late. The Jets are fired up for this game.
The Jets suck so it's not because of their players I'm just worried that Greg Williams will order a player to go for Barkley, Engrams, or Daniel Jones' knees.
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The Jets suck so it's not because of their players I'm just worried that Greg Williams will order a player to go for Barkley, Engrams, or Daniel Jones' knees.
And, if that's the case, isn't every opponent worried about that vs jets?
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The Jets suck so it's not because of their players I'm just worried that Greg Williams will order a player to go for Barkley, Engrams, or Daniel Jones' knees.
And, if that's the case, isn't every opponent worried about that vs jets?
He can, but he's such an reprehensible, immoral coach/c-cksucker. He really doesn't belong in the league...
Not supporting Williams with this statement but...
if we were to ban every coach and player who did immoral things, there would not be too many people left.
How is the air up there from your perch on Mt Moral High Ground?
If a guy like Burfict needs to be suspended each time he does something awful on the basis of "past actions", then Williams shouldn't even be coaching anymore.
Rams have 30 yards passing total and they're in the 3rd quarter. Â
How is the air up there from your perch on Mt Moral High Ground?
It's quite crisp and fresh, actually.
Here's an idea. Go listen to the guy on audio. It's all over youtube. Williams was teaching a game aimed at injuring the opposition. Trying to win with injury rather than skill.
If you think that type of thinking deserves a spot in today's game then Williams is your guy...
a few beautiful throws and than an awful awful interception.
Reminds me of Jones this year.
The difference being this is who Darnold always has been. I also don't think DJ has missed a throw that bad yet this year. 5 yard slany two yards behind the guy in man? Its head scratching when you watch him make way more diffixult throws on money
How is the air up there from your perch on Mt Moral High Ground?
It's quite crisp and fresh, actually.
Here's an idea. Go listen to the guy on audio. It's all over youtube. Williams was teaching a game aimed at injuring the opposition. Trying to win with injury rather than skill.
If you think that type of thinking deserves a spot in today's game then Williams is your guy...
I dont disagree with you as to whether he did what he did. No question...
Still, out of the league? So who else is complicit? The league? The team that hires him? The fans that watch his defense play? Where does the guilt end? Did it start at conception?
They are. Looks like Lynch is growing very well into the GM job (has drafted very well), Shanahan can script an offense and develop talent, and Saleh looks like a good, up and coming DC...
Not if you pretend the ball was in his left hand and not his right hand like the ref obviously did.
I am just gobsmacked that they looked at that on replay and upheld the spot. He was about half a yard short, wasn't even close. I'd be furious if I was an Atlanta fan.
I'm typically on the other side of those who complain about officiating, but this just isn't sustainable.
The pass interfere rule in of itself needs to be dialed down. I'd prefer a 10 yard chuck window and PI have to be moving the player off his position or grabbing his person.
then most people think. Murray is starting to play pretty damn well and is perfect for that system. Going to be a very close game IMO. Hopefully DJ is up to the task and we get a few horses back this week.
I can't see the Jets winning that game. Or almost any game this year
It is analytically the correct play most of the time when that situation presents itself, which is rare. A kicker has a far better chance, probably at least twice the chance, of making a 55-60 yard FG with no rush than a QB throwing a hail mary from midfield
And Kyle Allen looks legit. Talent was never a question with him. Kid was universally considered the top HS QB in his class.
Not that it necessarily wins any recent games, but why minimize what could & should be a decent weapon? I'da said this last yr too
And Kyle Allen looks legit. Talent was never a question with him. Kid was universally considered the top HS QB in his class.
It's funny that the Giants had two of the best kickers in the NFL on their roster this offseason while the Jets couldn't even find a decent one. The Jets could have had Slye as a FA and solved their kicker issue.
When can they activate him ?
When can they activate him ?
After week 8
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I can't see the Jets winning that game. Or almost any game this year
Oh, I agree with you 100%, but I'm hoping they beat Dallas, and the Skins, after that I probably won't watch another Jet's game for the next 3 years!
I'm actually rooting for the Skins to win this. I don't want them ending up with the 1st overall pick. I hope they win a few and finish with the 7th-10th instead. I don't want them getting TUa, Andrew Thomas, Jerry Jeudy, Chase Young, etc.
Cleveland hits a 4th down play to Landry.
Baker TD run.
+1the idiot kept talking about a challenge
TNF. Fuck Joe Buck
Now their punt is blocked.
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When can they activate him ?
Thanks Jay hope they plan on it would be nice to see him in a real game....
Diggs torching Filthy ..
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walk all over the Texans, but Houston is down 1, 17-16 and the Chiefs can't stop them..
Typical Andy Reid Chiefs team- great offense; can't stop their grandmothers.
zactly....why they fail in the playoffs.
I really hate Thursday games too.
I really hate Thursday games too.
Have we ever won a TNF game? Or a recent SNF game ? I can't remember. We always seem to get humiliated on prime time
I really hate Thursday games too.
and we ended up with Bethea ,,,,,
But I think Dorsey received the “genius” label a bit prematurely
And the color commentator giving the Eagles credit for being aggressive, saying "that's in their DNA." That color commentator is crazy.
--If you're even thinking about faking a FG there you might as well go for it with your offense on the field because the opponent's special teams are playing FG safe anyway
--Don't challenge a defense on 4th down on the road unless you have no choice. Best move there is to take the points, especially with no timeouts
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Could not get separation. Watching the Eagles and Vikings. Refs are allowing the Viking DB’s to hold and pass interfere. It’s blatant. Fix is in.
I really hate Thursday games too.
Have we ever won a TNF game? Or a recent SNF game ? I can't remember. We always seem to get humiliated on prime time
The liklihood of it going for a TD was slim
But I think Dorsey received the “genius” label a bit prematurely
Oh you mean the genius that was touted as the guy we missed getting?
Really, need to give GMs a few seasons to get there players.
Remember that one poster who would always have to request the fan split of the teams?
Shermer and the Giants were Cousins their get right game :(
I hate that he’s in our division, he’s really really good
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That guy is a lot of fun to watch...
I hate that he’s in our division, he’s really really good
I've been pissed about it since they drafted him. Really liked what I saw from him at NDSU.
17-10 Redskins.
John Jerry and Bobby Hart are playing LT and RT for the Bengals.
Eh with all the calls Philly got their way in that very building 2 years ago, I'm sure they'll be fine.
He led with the crown of the helmet, a big no-no.
Stranger things have happened but the Eagles aren't playing well enough to win in Dallas right now
Lol with the shank included, still better than Shurmur
You thought the refs were trying to decide if there was intentional grounding, instead they called a BS roughing call.
It is out of control.
You thought the refs were trying to decide if there was intentional grounding, instead they called a BS roughing call.
It is out of control.
Tell that to Cam Newton...
Seahawks game.
Tanking is real. Fitzpatrick was going off
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did Miami go for two? Kick the XP and go to OT.
Tanking is real. Fitzpatrick was going off
Why bother playing for OT? They're 0-4 going nowhere. They must've had a good 2-pt play they wanted to try.
Yeah not sure why Lockett's TD was overturned.
they went out with a whimper.
I must disagree a bit. They don't even attempt to run the ball. Everything is shotgun formation and Mahomes throwing the ball. It's like back in the day with Andy when he would forget that teams are allowed to run the ball too.
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did Miami go for two? Kick the XP and go to OT.
Tanking is real. Fitzpatrick was going off
Why bother playing for OT? They're 0-4 going nowhere. They must've had a good 2-pt play they wanted to try.
I'd want to do everything to prevent an 0-16 season.
Is Twitter and the media gonna kill Mayfield like they have Jones? That'll be interesting to see.
Jones has the same number of TD passes and more rushing TDs in 2 less games. Also has 5 less INTs.
He's amazing.
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Can't run the ball and can't stop it. Not a good formula. Wonder if they move on from Reid if they have a quick exit.
I must disagree a bit. They don't even attempt to run the ball. Everything is shotgun formation and Mahomes throwing the ball. It's like back in the day with Andy when he would forget that teams are allowed to run the ball too.
Could be right. I remember with the Eagles they ran more. Certainly he had a far better defense and DC.
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TD. 1st and 1.
Yeah not sure why Lockett's TD was overturned.
Cost my fantasy team 10 points, as I have Wilson and he has Carson. Ugh.
11 for the year
Reality check? In 6 games he's got over 2100 passing yards with 14 TDs and 1 INT. While completing 64% of his passes. I hope my QB gets reality checks like that.
Horrendous turnovers by Mayfield in the end zone and Nick Chubb.
I can't imagine Freddie Kitchens gets even another year if they can't win that shitty division.
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Is Twitter and the media gonna kill Mayfield like they have Jones? That'll be interesting to see.
Jones has the same number of TD passes and more rushing TDs in 2 less games. Also has 5 less INTs.
Baker Mayfield is the prime example of why you have to wait a couple of years to see what you have in a qb. Can't get too high on a guy until they do it consistently. Mahomes being the outlier because he's done it consistently since the start.
They go to NE next week but after that the Browns' schedule is extremely soft.
They won't be out of it at 2-5, although they may deserve to be.
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TD. 1st and 1.
Yeah not sure why Lockett's TD was overturned.
Cost my fantasy team 10 points, as I have Wilson and he has Carson. Ugh.
I have Lockett and my opponent has Carson, so it was a 12-point swing for me. Ugh.
See if they can keep it up.
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Could not get separation. Watching the Eagles and Vikings. Refs are allowing the Viking DB’s to hold and pass interfere. It’s blatant. Fix is in.
I really hate Thursday games too.
Have we ever won a TNF game? Or a recent SNF game ? I can't remember. We always seem to get humiliated on prime time
I remember beating the 49ers on SNF in 2015, not all that recent but the first one that came to mind. We beat them on MNF last year.
See if they can keep it up.
The Giants looked great with Eli on the opening drive vs Dallas also.
Sports are funny. Falcons probably would love to go back and keep Kyle Shanahan and dump Dan Quinn. They have defensive injuries, but the whole team looks like shit now. They were scoring almost the same PPG as the Giants coming into this week.
92 yard bomb. TD jets next play.
14-3
Ahh, from my perspective this is something to be happy a out
No comparison, the cows are far higher on that list
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to try to hard count. Your messing your two starting tackles, take the points.
Ahh, from my perspective this is something to be happy a out
About,
A four car pile up with one car getting the shot to the playoffs. We could be that car.
See if they can keep it up.
It is unbelievable - they are completely dominating the Cowboys right now. Momemtum ... etc ....
That pass by Darnold after they forced the the Cowboys to give up the ball on downs was a thing of beauty.
They were playing with a kid at quarterback who gave them no chance to win. Today they think they can win
By the Jets of all teams LOL
Great throw by Darnold. It was a bit of a ballon ball that I thought the deep safety might intercept, but he was just a tad too late. The Jets are fired up for this game.
Jets!
Jets!
Jets!
I don’t expect it to last but at least it’s fun for now.
Still a safe bet. Our floor is lower than their floor.
Bc giants aren't there yet
Until the Giants figure out that they're allowed to cover Blake Jarwin, I'm not betting the house quite yet.
If the Giants can't beat the Cards at home off of a bye, might as well send Pat Shurmur home after the game.
He can, but he's such an reprehensible, immoral coach/c-cksucker. He really doesn't belong in the league...
And, if that's the case, isn't every opponent worried about that vs jets?
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The Jets suck so it's not because of their players I'm just worried that Greg Williams will order a player to go for Barkley, Engrams, or Daniel Jones' knees.
And, if that's the case, isn't every opponent worried about that vs jets?
Yes, he's a POS.
He can, but he's such an reprehensible, immoral coach/c-cksucker. He really doesn't belong in the league...
Not supporting Williams with this statement but...
if we were to ban every coach and player who did immoral things, there would not be too many people left.
How is the air up there from your perch on Mt Moral High Ground?
Agree. He should have his kneecaps broken.
They've never recovered from 28 3.
Reminds me of how the Giants fell off after 2012. They’re awful.
Good, they get the benefit of too many calls
Yup.
How is the air up there from your perch on Mt Moral High Ground?
It's quite crisp and fresh, actually.
Here's an idea. Go listen to the guy on audio. It's all over youtube. Williams was teaching a game aimed at injuring the opposition. Trying to win with injury rather than skill.
If you think that type of thinking deserves a spot in today's game then Williams is your guy...
the beginning of a loss fort Jets
It was just an awful awful throw.
Same pattern at SC, too. Usually with a fumble or INT.
Reminds me of Jones this year.
Rather embarrassing performance by Rams considering short week for Niners and extra rest for Rams. Is McVay still a genius?
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many slants in traffic equals INT. His previous throw to the sideline for a minimal gain could also have been picked.
It was just an awful awful throw.
Yup.
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a few beautiful throws and than an awful awful interception.
Reminds me of Jones this year.
The difference being this is who Darnold always has been. I also don't think DJ has missed a throw that bad yet this year. 5 yard slany two yards behind the guy in man? Its head scratching when you watch him make way more diffixult throws on money
Fumbles too.
+1.
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How is the air up there from your perch on Mt Moral High Ground?
It's quite crisp and fresh, actually.
Here's an idea. Go listen to the guy on audio. It's all over youtube. Williams was teaching a game aimed at injuring the opposition. Trying to win with injury rather than skill.
If you think that type of thinking deserves a spot in today's game then Williams is your guy...
I dont disagree with you as to whether he did what he did. No question...
Still, out of the league? So who else is complicit? The league? The team that hires him? The fans that watch his defense play? Where does the guilt end? Did it start at conception?
We'll see how that works out.
1 yard pattern.
Incomplete pass.
I guess that has already been discussed.
They are. Looks like Lynch is growing very well into the GM job (has drafted very well), Shanahan can script an offense and develop talent, and Saleh looks like a good, up and coming DC...
This is weird for me too.
I'm convinced they have no idea how to use Leveon Bell. He's only one of the top 5 backs in the league
The city never forgave him for blowing the Super Bowl
And yet somehow the spot is upheld. He was at least half a yard short. Brutal.
Not if you pretend the ball was in his left hand and not his right hand like the ref obviously did.
If they did that they wouldn’t be the Jets
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Not if you pretend the ball was in his left hand and not his right hand like the ref obviously did.
I am just gobsmacked that they looked at that on replay and upheld the spot. He was about half a yard short, wasn't even close. I'd be furious if I was an Atlanta fan.
Refs just BLOW
Happens every fucking game. So nauseating.
4 in a row now
This league is so predictable...
5 in a row
Thats 5 straight plays with flags now
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Everything is getting called all of a sudden. 3 in a row?
4 in a row now
Make that 5
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Happens every fucking game. So nauseating.
Refereeing is incompetent and inconsistent. Giant game no flags. Dallas game, penalty.
Make it six
You'll get flags, and like it.
That was also second and 27.
6 in a row
they never call that
The pass interfere rule in of itself needs to be dialed down. I'd prefer a 10 yard chuck window and PI have to be moving the player off his position or grabbing his person.
Why? It is clear that the replay booth is just bullshit.
NFL is just incompetent. Totally inconsistent calls. The league should be embarrassed.
ITA. Fucks them if they don't get the 2 pointer.
Could see that coming a mile away. More brilliance from Jason Garrett.
Apply those last calls on Thursday and the Pats would've had 20 flags.
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ITA. Fucks them if they don't get the 2 pointer.
Yep. It was huge. So they couldn't kick deep.
Just a dumb TO by Garrett.
Apply those last calls on Thursday and the Pats would've had 20 flags.
Exactly, perfectly explained
No hold by Zeke?....had right hand on the LBs shoulder and twisted him.
His idea just now was some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard
Apply those last calls on Thursday and the Pats would've had 20 flags.
And what a surprise the 49ers game was much more watchable.
Yes, not according to the New England/Seahawk standard, not even close.
Ya we should save our cap space for when he’s a FA.
Seemed like this year that they are letting the DBs play. But not in this game.
would throw another flag..!
Eh the 62 yarder he hit kind of evens it out
Bizarro world
Shades of Chris Galloway in the 1998 WC game disaster against Minny
They were handed that game by the refs who then sealed it with a ridiculous first down at the end of the game.
They have a real beef with the NFL FO at this point...