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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/13/2019 9:47 am
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Game Review: New England Patriots 35 – New York Giants 14 - ( New Window )
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We all want Daniel Jones to be successful and I think he will. But  
Ira : 10/13/2019 11:31 am : link
for God sakes, when a qb has a bad game, he has a bad game. There are always some good things, but that's to be expected from any nfl qb. If Eli had a game like that, there would be a lynch mob on bbi.
What a great write up  
Vanzetti : 10/13/2019 11:31 am : link
The analysis is excellent but the writing is also really top notch—it makes you want to keep reading
RE: Sy  
Jay on the Island : 10/13/2019 11:36 am : link
In comment 14626432 jtfuoco said:
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Thanks for the write up. One question after looking at the tape how did the Patriots Marshall Newhouse look in the Patriots system in comparison to when he was with the Giants. It feels like their system gets better results with below average talent especially on the Oline.

Dante Scarnecchia is one of the best OL in NFL history. Every season the Pats line is among the best in football despite constantly losing players in free agency. They lost Wynn for the second season in a row as well as their pro bowl center and the unit is still playing well.

As Sy pointed out he's taken day 3 picks and UDFA's and turned them into pro bowlers.
RE: RE: I'm curious on what your take is on the first interception  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/13/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14626437 section125 said:
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In comment 14626420 Zeke's Alibi said:


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Was that a shitty route by Ellison? It seems like he should have sat that route down further into the hole. If not it just seems like PS is creating unnecessarily tight windows. DJ threw into the most tight windows since they have been keeping track of the stat in 2015 and who can blame him, we would be constant 3 and out if he didn't putting even more pressure on defense.



Wasn't the 1st to Slayton, who was open, and DJ threw it behind him and late?
Ellison was the 3rd one when they were moving on the opening drive of the 3rd quarters, IIRC.


It was the first one and what I'm alluding to is it is that there is a linebacker underneath that should have been dragged further inside by Ellisons route. I don't know if that is just a shitty route or play design, but it is creating unneccesarily tight windows. DJ may feel a little more confident putting the ball further in front if the window is bigger.
RE: RE: RE: I'm curious on what your take is on the first interception  
section125 : 10/13/2019 11:49 am : link
In comment 14626474 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14626437 section125 said:


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In comment 14626420 Zeke's Alibi said:


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Was that a shitty route by Ellison? It seems like he should have sat that route down further into the hole. If not it just seems like PS is creating unnecessarily tight windows. DJ threw into the most tight windows since they have been keeping track of the stat in 2015 and who can blame him, we would be constant 3 and out if he didn't putting even more pressure on defense.



Wasn't the 1st to Slayton, who was open, and DJ threw it behind him and late?
Ellison was the 3rd one when they were moving on the opening drive of the 3rd quarters, IIRC.



It was the first one and what I'm alluding to is it is that there is a linebacker underneath that should have been dragged further inside by Ellisons route. I don't know if that is just a shitty route or play design, but it is creating unneccesarily tight windows. DJ may feel a little more confident putting the ball further in front if the window is bigger.


That ball was late out. I think it was Slayton and he was very much open, but he threw it about two yards behind the WR. Not sure what the TE or the associated LB had to do with it. You are usually pretty good on these, but I just don't see where the LB impacted the play.
I just rewatched it, thought it was zone, but it was man. Irregardles  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/13/2019 11:56 am : link
the point still stands, if DJ puts the ball on the money the LB is in very good position to bat that ball down even though its man which makes the scheme even more questionable. There's too many bodies to run a play like that on the short side of the field.
Unless you split the WR wide that is, can't run that out of what is  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/13/2019 11:59 am : link
a pseudo bunch.
Sy'56 thanks again for interesting/informative write-up...  
M.S. : 10/13/2019 12:05 pm : link

...also I'm with you regarding BBIers who seem to have gotten themselves worked up a bit over the Giants hanging close to the Pats. Been following the Giants for over half a century and there were a lot of really bad Giants teams that hung with a superior opponent only to lose out in the end. Happens all the time.

Oh, well. The Giants are hopefully on the right track with Daniel Jones and Gettleman continues with good Drafts. And maybe some season in the future -- without Pat Shurmur -- the Giants will figure out how to be a winning franchise in maybe 3 years.
RE: I just rewatched it, thought it was zone, but it was man. Irregardles  
section125 : 10/13/2019 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14626490 Zeke's Alibi said:
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the point still stands, if DJ puts the ball on the money the LB is in very good position to bat that ball down even though its man which makes the scheme even more questionable. There's too many bodies to run a play like that on the short side of the field.


The 1st one was in the middle of the field, not toward the sideline. I think we are talking about two different passes. Sorry, if I'm getting this wrong. The sideline one to Ellison was in the 3rd quarter and the 2nd one was on a tipped arm/pass that he should have thrown away.

If you see a scheme failure, I'm sure that that was not the 1st time they ran that play and it could very well have been somebody read the defense wrong and ran the wrong route.
I'm talking about the first interception in middle of the field  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/13/2019 12:17 pm : link
I was referring to alignment when talking about the field. I originally thought it was zone because there was a spy on the play. Looked like a cover 1 spy. The thing is if that ball is on the money the LB that is covering Ellison can deflect it unless the timing is perfect and I mean perfect.
Lawrence  
HomerJones45 : 10/13/2019 12:18 pm : link
the Pats showed what they thought of him- 7 qb sneaks with their 43 y/o qb.

Let's stop making heroes of guys like Mayo. We are his 3rd team in 4 years. SF signed him to a 2 year contract and then cut him before the end of August. If it wasn't for Gettlemen, he'd probably be out of the League. He's a bum.

Tate is not the Tate of Detroit. He couldn't get away from anyone. On one short pass play, the db beat Tate to the spot, got his whole body in front of Tate, and Tate ran into him. On the long pass play, the db was right with him, the ball got tipped and then the db fell down. Sy's comment was funny that he, Shepard and Engram will be tough to cover on 3rd and less than 7. Well, hell, Benny Fowler was too. Pray for Barkley's health.
Maybe it was an option route by Ellison and he saw the spy  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/13/2019 12:21 pm : link
and thought zone, I don't know. If thats the case the route still needs to be run further inside. Too many times PS leaves me scratching my head as to what they are trying to do.
RE: Lawrence  
Jay on the Island : 10/13/2019 12:26 pm : link
In comment 14626517 HomerJones45 said:
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the Pats showed what they thought of him- 7 qb sneaks with their 43 y/o qb.

Let's stop making heroes of guys like Mayo. We are his 3rd team in 4 years. SF signed him to a 2 year contract and then cut him before the end of August. If it wasn't for Gettlemen, he'd probably be out of the League. He's a bum.

Tate is not the Tate of Detroit. He couldn't get away from anyone. On one short pass play, the db beat Tate to the spot, got his whole body in front of Tate, and Tate ran into him. On the long pass play, the db was right with him, the ball got tipped and then the db fell down. Sy's comment was funny that he, Shepard and Engram will be tough to cover on 3rd and less than 7. Well, hell, Benny Fowler was too. Pray for Barkley's health.

What an awful post. Who on earth is "making heroes" out of David Mayo? All anyone said is that he's been solid. I don't see many actually advocating for him starting next year. You mention that Tate "couldn't get away from anyone" yet he had a 64 yard touchdown last week.
I thought the review was excellent Sy .  
Bluesbreaker : 10/13/2019 12:29 pm : link
Jones probably worst showing to date .
The turnovers are mounting and I don't think Shumur is
helping much . Yes the 4th and two are calls like that make
me want a new HC Jack Rabbit is still a play-maker but
with Baker coming on we should move him for a pick
Beal Ballentine and Love need to get more time on the field
to see what they got .
Far as the draft goes we have to use a pick on an OT at #1
and add another in free agency . Bye week couldn't come at a
better time .
Jones didn't have a good game  
Jay on the Island : 10/13/2019 12:53 pm : link
but as Aikman pointed out on several occasions, the WR's were unable to get any separation. Jones threw a few excellent passes into the smallest of windows.

The Giants were no match for Belichick. He focused on keeping Jones in the pocket and shutting down Tate and Slayton.
Jones  
AcidTest : 10/13/2019 1:06 pm : link
was throwing into ridiculously tight coverage, even by NFL standards. Nobody could get any separation. He also had no running game.

The OL is almost as bad as last year. I agree that Solder and Remmers look no better than Flowers, which is shocking. Halapio has also been poor, as has Zeitler. I think Zeitler's shoulder is hurting him badly. He should sit. I would make major changes to the right side, and play Slade and Gates, with Smith as a sixth OL.

On defense, I agree Baker is playing much better, but we are still being scorched over the middle of the field. I have no idea why Bethea and Haley are playing instead of Love and Ballentine. Haley is attacked every time he's on the field. Jenkins is too erratic. I'd look to trade him.
For me the most important part was #1 of closing thoughts  
Matt M. : 10/13/2019 1:31 pm : link
It seemed like too many, here were just happy this game was tied 14-14 late in the half. This included Aikman. For me, that is when the real D showed up. The allowed NE to gash them right before the half and then again in the 3rd.

This game was close because NE, mostly Brady, played poorly. When was the last time (ever?) you saw Brady throw 8 or 9 straight incompletions? Then he hit something like 15 straight completions in the 2nd half. Once NE woke up and realized it was a close game, that was it.

We didn't play well to make this a close game into the 4th. NE played poorly and then just decided it was time to win.
I watched this game from the perspective  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/13/2019 2:42 pm : link
That this offense was built to be run around a stud RB. That being said, it is probably our weakest position right now being that we are on our 3rd string back. This forces our rookie QB to throw balls downfield to average at best wide receiver talent. I'm not trying to make excuses for DJ, but he was playing against a stacked deck
Thanks Sy ....  
short lease : 10/13/2019 3:24 pm : link

Good to hear about the receiving class next year. Not that the Giants current crop is horrible but, they could use an upgrade imo.
halapio is holding them back especially in the running game  
Torrag : 10/13/2019 3:52 pm : link
Sy'..."Jon Halapio had another below average game, leaving just week 1 vs DAL where I came away impressed with his effort."

That's 5 weeks in a row and I just don't understand what they're waiting for. Pulley played better last season than what this scrub is providing. 'Hog mollies' means nothing if you don't perform. Bigger is only better if the performance matches the proportions. It's past time to 'pulley' the trigger at OC and make a change. Wake the fuck up Shurmur.
RE: halapio is holding them back especially in the running game  
section125 : 10/13/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14626686 Torrag said:
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Sy'..."Jon Halapio had another below average game, leaving just week 1 vs DAL where I came away impressed with his effort."

That's 5 weeks in a row and I just don't understand what they're waiting for. Pulley played better last season than what this scrub is providing. 'Hog mollies' means nothing if you don't perform. Bigger is only better if the performance matches the proportions. It's past time to 'pulley' the trigger at OC and make a change. Wake the fuck up Shurmur.


Pulley sucks...
I just watched the game for the first time  
Rick in Dallas : 10/13/2019 4:11 pm : link
Jenkins was certainly not a stud in the game I just watched. With limited talent Mayo played a lot better than the highly priced Jenkins.
One observation on the defense in this game: I thought the team speed on defense was much better than previous games.
Maybe these guys are finally getting Bettcher’s system.
You guys do know that Sy does this for a living right?  
PatersonPlank : 10/13/2019 4:17 pm : link
His opinion is a lot more informed that any of us drinking a beer sitting on the couch watching TV.
Torrag  
XBRONX : 10/13/2019 4:43 pm : link
If you read Sy's reviews from last year, Pulley stunk EVERY game.
Jets up 7-0 over Dallas  
yalebowl : 10/13/2019 4:50 pm : link
Go Green
Pulley is not the answer at center either  
Jay on the Island : 10/13/2019 4:55 pm : link
Pulley struggles mightily with powerful DT's as he's often pushed back into the pocket. The Giants need to draft a center in the first three rounds. It's time to find the long term answer there.

They could also sign Ted Karras to a 2-3 year deal and draft a center to groom behind him.
Halapio is a better fit when we have Barkley back  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/13/2019 5:03 pm : link
at least he moves people in run game.
for the halapio apologists or pulley detractors  
Torrag : 10/13/2019 5:57 pm : link
Statistically we ran the ball better last season with Pulley, we allowed less inside pressure with Pulley. Is Pulley some great shakes? No, but halapio completely sucks. You don't agree? Fine but the numbers don't support your position. So you can tell yourselves whatever helps you sleep at night and get through watching halapio sink the O-line but it's a fiction. Hell he has a better player on his right side and he's still dragging the group down.

At what point are you willing to try something new to test the results? Week 8? 12? Do it now while we can still salvage something and perhaps get the run game going...as it was the second half last season when Pulley was at the pivot.
Barkley has been out half this season. Thursday night just  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/13/2019 7:30 pm : link
at the top of my head he would have added about 100 yards in runs. That is a pretty disingenous argument.
'he would have added about 100 yards in runs'  
Torrag : 10/13/2019 7:52 pm : link
You get that from your crystal ball? Connections on 'the other side'? Pitiful attempt at a rebuttal based on actual results.
Well in this very review Sy said there were a few cutback misses  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/13/2019 7:58 pm : link
and that run that Hilliman gained ten on was blocked up PERFECT and SB likely would have taken to the house. Now things look different when he is in game, but you are judging the run blocking numbers with 16 games of SB vs 2.5 out of 6. But please continue your disingenous argument. And BTW Gallman is averaging a half yard more ypc and SB a full yard and a half this year than last.
RE: We Are Not Watching the Same Game  
Bramton1 : 10/13/2019 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14626380 Giants38 said:
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First, you can save time by just saying the entire offense was poor, if you are going to give a write-up like that. Jones obviously has a way to go, but there were some highlights to go along with the "lowlights" you mentioned.

I do not see Janoris Jenkins's play as a positive. He continues to get roasted, and even on his INT, the WR was open.


Or maybe Jenkins left the WR open because he was playing a mis-thrown ball. Your comment does not sound like an objective person.
RE: for the halapio apologists or pulley detractors  
Jay on the Island : 10/13/2019 9:33 pm : link
In comment 14626858 Torrag said:
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Statistically we ran the ball better last season with Pulley, we allowed less inside pressure with Pulley. Is Pulley some great shakes? No, but halapio completely sucks. You don't agree? Fine but the numbers don't support your position. So you can tell yourselves whatever helps you sleep at night and get through watching halapio sink the O-line but it's a fiction. Hell he has a better player on his right side and he's still dragging the group down.

At what point are you willing to try something new to test the results? Week 8? 12? Do it now while we can still salvage something and perhaps get the run game going...as it was the second half last season when Pulley was at the pivot.

The offensive line played better when Jamon Brown came aboard. They struggled with Greco at RG but improved significantly when Brown was inserted. We ran the ball better last season because we had Beckham to keep defenses honest.
Sy nails it as usual  
jcn56 : 10/13/2019 9:43 pm : link
Not sure why some have a problem with saying that Jones played a poor game. The deck was stacked against him - playing Belichick, on the road, minus a number of weapons with the Pats boasting the #1 defense on a short week - did anyone really think Jones was *not* going to have a poor game?

Also good to see someone else point out the fact that it was a short week and both teams looked like shit as a result. It's a BBI stalwart, blaming the short week for a sloppy looking game. Combine it with the weather, and it's hard to know how much was Brady getting older, the Giants defense playing better, the weather, or the short week.
And yet we have certain posters who  
.McL. : 10/14/2019 1:11 am : link
Still dig themselves in on the idea that Halapio is plus level player.

Not only is he not a plus level player, he doesn't even qualify as a JAG. And we are seeing what happens when the line calls are sub-optimal. Much of the same confusion, miscommunication, and failure to pick up stunts and blitzes as we saw in the early part of last year. On paper this line should be much better than the one that start out last year. It's only marginally better. These issues that got cleaned up when Pulley went. I am not saying that Pulley is a plus level player but at least he understands the position.
One thing about write ups  
Joey in VA : 10/14/2019 2:17 am : link
Is that the second viewing removes all emotional ties and you just see the game. If you were upset at a player or a play or someone did something you didn't expect either positive or negative, your view is tainted. Once you do it for real, you see much easier what's actually happening. I would caution those getting on Sy that they're being emotional based on the emotional viewing of the game and not a snap by snap all 22 view.

I don't agree with Sy as often as others do when it comes to player evaluation but in game review, I have yet to disagree with him. Dispassionate viewing is essential to really doing this and it's not a skill everyone possesses. Sy does.
RE: And yet we have certain posters who  
crick n NC : 10/14/2019 7:26 am : link
In comment 14627851 .McL. said:
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Still dig themselves in on the idea that Halapio is plus level player.

Not only is he not a plus level player, he doesn't even qualify as a JAG. And we are seeing what happens when the line calls are sub-optimal. Much of the same confusion, miscommunication, and failure to pick up stunts and blitzes as we saw in the early part of last year. On paper this line should be much better than the one that start out last year. It's only marginally better. These issues that got cleaned up when Pulley went. I am not saying that Pulley is a plus level player but at least he understands the position.


I can't recall one poster who is "digging in" in regards to Halapio being a plus player.
Not game related...  
bw in dc : 10/14/2019 7:55 am : link
but this was a very interesting nugget by Sy:

[q]"...the WR talent coming into the league next year is ridiculous. I may have 10+ grades on receivers that are higher than anyone from the 2019 class." [/q]

That is quite a statement.
Not sure if people care..  
Dnew15 : 10/14/2019 9:59 am : link
but Spencer Pulley is the 4th highest paid OL on this team (more than Halapio) at almost a mil - next year it's almost 3 mil.

That's a lot to spend on a guy that hasn't played a single snap.
Great write up, Sy. Thank you.  
Mike from Ohio : 10/14/2019 10:42 am : link
It is nice to get a dispassionate, analytical review of the game instead of emotional knee jerk reactions that describe most of the threads after each game.

DJ played poorly and anyone who understands the game could see that. That doesn't mean the guy is a bust, just that he is a rookie who is still learning. But this board is still littered with posters talking about how impressive he was in the game, and how every poor throw and decision was somebody else's fault.

It is hard to tell where this Giants team is overall due to missing so many parts on offense and playing the Pats on a short week, but these types of analysis help. The Oline has really not been fixed to the extent many believed this offseason. DG simply has to do a better job bringing in talent and the coaches need to get more out of these guys.

The edge rushers have been a pleasant surprise, particularly Golden. Hopefully that continues. Same with Baker's development. However, I am really finding it hard to trust Shurmur in tough game situations. He seems unprepared.
To hell with both Halapio AND Pulley. Neither one is the OC we need.  
Klaatu : 10/14/2019 10:45 am : link
How about using a premium draft pick on a top-tier Center in 2020? If you want to keep Pulley around instead of cutting him and taking the cap hit, fine, but I'd rather take the hit and bring in a guy like Cincinnati's Trey Hopkins instead. Either way, Halapio should be shown the door.
As an NFL HC Shurmur is a loser  
arniefez : 10/14/2019 10:49 am : link
The chances that changes after 50+ career games is extremely unlikely.

I think Jones has shown he can be a good NFL QB. But whoever is going to win with him is going to have to manage around his adequate at best arm strength. Watching Darnold yesterday you have to wonder what other NFL GM would pass on him for a RB and what Cleveland was thinking.
RE: To hell with both Halapio AND Pulley. Neither one is the OC we need.  
Jay on the Island : 10/14/2019 10:51 am : link
In comment 14628168 Klaatu said:
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How about using a premium draft pick on a top-tier Center in 2020? If you want to keep Pulley around instead of cutting him and taking the cap hit, fine, but I'd rather take the hit and bring in a guy like Cincinnati's Trey Hopkins instead. Either way, Halapio should be shown the door.

I hope they invest one of their day two pick on a center. It's time the Giants find their long term answer there. A good center can transform an entire offensive line.

If the Giants want to bring back Pulley or Halapio as the backup then fine but this team can't go into next season with either as the starter. If the Giants are picking in the mid to late teens then Biadasz makes a lot of sense if the top OT's are off the board. Biadasz is a great center prospect and would lock down the C position for the next 8-10 years.
RE: To hell with both Halapio AND Pulley. Neither one is the OC we need.  
.McL. : 10/14/2019 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14628168 Klaatu said:
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How about using a premium draft pick on a top-tier Center in 2020? If you want to keep Pulley around instead of cutting him and taking the cap hit, fine, but I'd rather take the hit and bring in a guy like Cincinnati's Trey Hopkins instead. Either way, Halapio should be shown the door.

Agreed neither is good. Neither is any good. The line play stabilized last year with Pulley in there. The team needs that this year again.

2.675 million is too much to be paying Pulley as a backup next year.

I am good with getting a long term answer, cutting Pulley, and keeping Halapio as a cheap backup.
ran the ball better because we had Beckham to keep defenses honest  
Torrag : 10/14/2019 1:09 pm : link
Except we ran the ball cumulatively better after he was 'injured'. So there goes that 'theory'.
Thanks for the write up  
Rudy5757 : 10/14/2019 1:36 pm : link
DJ definitely had a poor game. I think the wind was a major factor as well. Plus our WRs were not getting open so every ball was contested. I think they should have run him a little to open the pass. But the kid was up against BB on the road with a big wind, no EE, no SS and no RB. Anyone that thought he was going to have a great game I call BS.

Slayton still looks good, I thought he should have tried harder on the long pass to him, he needs to learn to go for the ball instead of waiting for it. As for the drop it was a very contested play and would have been hard for any receiver to catch.

Overall the OL isn't as bad as last year but also isnt much better. i think Barkley will make them look better though.

The punt on 4th down was basically throwing up the white flag which is unacceptable. the team played hard for PS which you can give him credit for but a coach has to make better game decisions when you dont have the best team. That punt cost us an opportunity to come back. We may not have converted it but there was still an opportunity to win the game. punting cost us that opportunity.
'Overall the OL isn't as bad as last year'  
Torrag : 10/14/2019 2:10 pm : link
To my eye they are worse than the final group that played the second half of last season(Pulley at OC and Brown at RG). Statistically they are worse than that group as well. Halapio is the worst of this years band but Solder isn't playing well either.
RE: 'Overall the OL isn't as bad as last year'  
.McL. : 10/14/2019 3:13 pm : link
In comment 14628546 Torrag said:
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To my eye they are worse than the final group that played the second half of last season(Pulley at OC and Brown at RG). Statistically they are worse than that group as well. Halapio is the worst of this years band but Solder isn't playing well either.


Agreed Torrag, and the end of last year had Wheeler at RT...
RE: Thanks for the write up  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/14/2019 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14628503 Rudy5757 said:
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DJ definitely had a poor game. I think the wind was a major factor as well. Plus our WRs were not getting open so every ball was contested. I think they should have run him a little to open the pass. But the kid was up against BB on the road with a big wind, no EE, no SS and no RB. Anyone that thought he was going to have a great game I call BS.

Slayton still looks good, I thought he should have tried harder on the long pass to him, he needs to learn to go for the ball instead of waiting for it. As for the drop it was a very contested play and would have been hard for any receiver to catch.

Overall the OL isn't as bad as last year but also isnt much better. i think Barkley will make them look better though.

The punt on 4th down was basically throwing up the white flag which is unacceptable. the team played hard for PS which you can give him credit for but a coach has to make better game decisions when you dont have the best team. That punt cost us an opportunity to come back. We may not have converted it but there was still an opportunity to win the game. punting cost us that opportunity.

Terrible coaching by Shoemore, the game plan should have been DJ8 16-31 O TD and 0 INT, let the D and ST win it.
RE: RE: 'Overall the OL isn't as bad as last year'  
Dnew15 : 10/14/2019 5:19 pm : link
In comment 14628613 .McL. said:
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In comment 14628546 Torrag said:


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To my eye they are worse than the final group that played the second half of last season(Pulley at OC and Brown at RG). Statistically they are worse than that group as well. Halapio is the worst of this years band but Solder isn't playing well either.



Agreed Torrag, and the end of last year had Wheeler at RT...


In what measurement are they statistically worse this year than last?
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