paxton sucks
BleedBlue : 10/13/2019 8:46 pm : link : reply
we had happ and paxton, houston adds cole and grienke....
thats why they will be playing in WS
Not ever an hour into the game
Pathetic. Fucking. Loser. ‘Fan’.
LMFAO. so because i stated THREE facts. 1.paxton sucks 2. they added cole and grienke 3. we added happ and paxton
and then have the opinion(and still do) that the stros are going to the WS....that makes me a fake fan?
does it tho? or does it make me someone who understands the game of baseball and what it takes to win....our SP going 3 innings IS NOT sustainable and is not a winning formula come playoff time...it just isnt. cole will go fucking 8 innings on tuesday...THATS how you win. again...take a fucking hike. i dont care i you think i am a "fake" fan. i am just a fan who understands we wont win if we cant pitch
Annoying loss, but Yanks are winning this fucking series.
Cole is great. But they'll smack him around. This series doesnt go back to Houston. Yanks in 5.
The potential rain out on Wednesday will likely mean 4 straight days of games if it goes 7. Not ideal for the Yanks to not have an off day in those 4 days with how much Yanks will likely need from the bullpen
Annoying loss, but Yanks are winning this fucking series.
Cole is great. But they'll smack him around. This series doesnt go back to Houston. Yanks in 5.
The potential rain out on Wednesday will likely mean 4 straight days of games if it goes 7. Not ideal for the Yanks to not have an off day in those 4 days with how much Yanks will likely need from the bullpen
lmao. yea because watching EVERY game means you know baseball....
its common fucking sense. 2.1 innings from your starter isnt a winning formula. sorry that i know that in my "7.5" games and you dont in 162. again...if we dont pitch well, we wont win
Verlander had his C-level stuff (at best), yet he got through almost 7 innings allowing just 2 runs in large part because of questionable ABs. EE, Didi, Gardy, and Sanchez looked awful at the dish against him. Guys were looking at hanging breaking stuff or fastballs down the middle (or fouling them back), then swinging at trash.
The main 5 guys in the bullpen did a great job with the exception of Ottavino. Jeez, he's completely fallen off.
I drop Sanchez down another spot in the order and would look to do the same with EE. If the pitching wasn't performing so well, I wouldn't be surprised if they gave Romine a chance. But they'll keep running Gary out there in hopes he'll run into one in a big spot.
This is turning into a very interesting series. The winner should Â
win the World Series, which makes it even more interesting. If Houston wins game 3 and the Yankees win game 4, we've got an exciting 3 game series to determine the AL champion and probably the world champion.
But Boone knows that. He went quick hook after quick hook after quick hook. They all worked individually, but it leaves you with trash like Happ in the 10th.
And I don't blame Boone for doing what he did. He was betting on his team scoring some time between the 5th and 10th.
Hitters gotta hit. Gary and Edwin have let them down bigtime so far.
But, reset for a moment - coming home at 1 apiece is something any rational NYY fan would have co-signed on Saturday morning.
But Boone knows that. He went quick hook after quick hook after quick hook. They all worked individually, but it leaves you with trash like Happ in the 10th.
And I don't blame Boone for doing what he did. He was betting on his team scoring some time between the 5th and 10th.
Hitters gotta hit. Gary and Edwin have let them down bigtime so far.
But, reset for a moment - coming home at 1 apiece is something any rational NYY fan would have co-signed on Saturday morning.
Gary had a couple epic battles last night. I really think he is zoning in. Eddie looked more lost than I have ever seen him. I wonder if he wasn't seeing the ball in those lights..
He is still expanding the zone with ridiculous frequency. He looks very pull happy early in counts, like he's guessing at pitches and deciding beforehand whether he's going to swing.
with 2 strikes, he did a better job of cutting down on the swing and actually reading and fighting off pitches.
It's frustrating, because he has the hit tool to use the whole field while also doing big damage to mistakes.
The lack of consistent, quality approach from him at this point is maddening.
order are guys who are boom or bust. Sanchez and Edwin are rarely going to have a battle at bat like Gardner. They are going to take some hacks and if they connect it changes the game.
When they face guys like Verlander and cole, they need to guess right. When they miss, they will look ugly. Edwin has had some poor AB's. He's missed pitches that were in the zone that he could drive and he's waved at some bad ones. Gary looks like he's tracking the ball better.
It won't be good for making it a short night for Cole from a pitch count standpoint, but we need to look for a certain pitch and swing at the first pitch when he's trying to get ahead of batters.
order are guys who are boom or bust. Sanchez and Edwin are rarely going to have a battle at bat like Gardner. They are going to take some hacks and if they connect it changes the game.
When they face guys like Verlander and cole, they need to guess right. When they miss, they will look ugly. Edwin has had some poor AB's. He's missed pitches that were in the zone that he could drive and he's waved at some bad ones. Gary looks like he's tracking the ball better.
It won't be good for making it a short night for Cole from a pitch count standpoint, but we need to look for a certain pitch and swing at the first pitch when he's trying to get ahead of batters.
With the quality of the hitters on both sides, I think the majority of both lineups were boom or bust last night. 2-2 through 10 innings with numerous chances on both sides.
Though that was a very winnable game last night.
Don't blame Happ, that would be shortsighted, the Yanks did absolutely nothing at the plate after Judge's homer.
Time for some of these guys to start hitting, like Edwin and El Gary for instance.
The next game is a 4:07 start time, as Smoltz said, hope for some clouds in October.
Would have preferred a night game.
Stanton is hurting again, what a shocker, he is a wuss!
Tough loss last night. Felt like that game was ours to steal.
I was a little upset that Boone went to Ottavino when Green was throwing so well knowing Otto hasn't quite been as dominant lately. In retrospect, it was a sound decision looking at the numbers - SSS, but Springer didn't have a hit against Ottavino in the ~4 times he faced him and he had a couple off Green.
It just didn't work out. If he leaves Green in and Springer tattoos him, he gets the same questions and people ask why Ottavino wasn't in the game.
Sucks the Astros forced us to hold Chapman to 1 inning... Happ was never going to hold serve for long against that lineup.
It's tricky with the way we're navigating the postseason - we're basically set up where we only have 1 starter giving us normal starter length (Tanaka). Boone had to give Pax the early hook to keep the game close - which I was fine with - but Severino probably isn't going to give us any more than 4 tomorrow so again, we're going to have to really ride these leverage guys. Rain on Wednesday might be our friend...
It's a tough task. Meanwhile, they got 7 from Verlander and will probably get the same at least from Cole tomorrow... so the onus on their pen isn't quite the same.
This was always going to be a really hard series, though. The Yanks did their job getting a W @ Minute Maid. The odds of coming home with 2 wins in our pockets were really slim.
To win this thing, it's going to require 6-7 games and most of us knew and expected that going in. Frustrated to have last night get away - you could feel the tide start to turn once we burned through Britton and Chappy. We had a small window against Harris/Pressley but couldn't get that elusive big hit.
It is what it is. Take a deep breath, let's get home tomorrow and get back on track behind Sevy.
Also... tomorrow is my 35th bday; I should probably just cut out of work and go to the game, right?
Does Verlander pitch game 4 if Wed is rained out? Â
And yes... I agree.. I definitely think I'm coming down with something. My doc would probably just tell me to take a day off and watch some playoff baseball, so..
He'd be on full rest for Game 5 on Friday, if there's a Wednesday rainout. A lot depends on how Game 3 goes - if they're up 2-1, they may just roll their fourth starter out there in Game 4 and have Greinke, Verlander and Cole lined up for Games 5-7. An extra day of rest for Verlander might help at this point.
“Thinking it can’t go on the air with the swear words, I said, ‘F–k, he has missed 150 freakin’ games, so what the f–k,'” Jackson said. “I almost choked when they said they were live. I immediately spoke to Jason Zillo [Yankees PR head] and he advised I go in and talk to Stanton, which I did. He graciously accepted my faux pas.’’
Doesn't sound like a big issue, but I think he was expressing how we all felt. MrOctober - ( New Window )
Paxton has to clear this from the memory bank immediately Â
He’s going to be relied on back in Houston either win the series or extend it. This team desperately needs Paxton to at least find a way to go 4+ solid innings. Time for him to nut up
needs to be in the lineup for game 3. If it has to be at DH, so be it. Encarnacion is swinging at everything he sees and hasn't done anything since the first inning of Twins game 2.
We obviously don't have the insight into the extent of the injury. But if it's not bad enough to be taken off the roster, then he needs to be in the lineup. If it happened early in game 1 then it clearly wasn't bad enough to prevent him from hitting a bomb to CF later in the game. This is the spot we've been waiting all season to have Stanton. Hell if he's in there last night we might win that game. I'm a big fan of Stanton, but this is becoming pretty frustrating.
but that was a bad look last night. Everybody on both teams was playing their hearts out - including some with bumps and bruises of their own - and Stanton was chilling in the dugout. Fair or unfair, that type of things sticks to a player. Reminds me of that epic Yankees/Sox game in 2004 when Jeter went into the stands - Nomar got crucified for sitting that game out while Jeter and ARod were laying it on the line, and he was traded a few weeks later.
Tough loss last night. Felt like that game was ours to steal.
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Also... tomorrow is my 35th bday; I should probably just cut out of work and go to the game, right?
Have to join in on the Happy Birthday. As for cutting out of work, you'd be a fool not to, as they say. Especially if your health is unsteady. Boone may need to call on you!
out his infield hit in his first at bat in game one.
Baseball is a game of periodic all out effort with the legs. If you can't run 100% without risking blowing out a mild strain, you have to tell the team and, once you do, it's not your decision whether you play.
Even if Stanton "just" DHs, it's not as though the only options are that he hits a HR or can otherwise jog back to the dugout.
What if he comes up with bases loaded one out and hits a ground ball?
If he's replaced on the roster now, he's out for the WS too; that's why he's in the dugout.
He's missed about 150 games this season with various strains and sprains. I don't tend to blame players for injuries, I imagine Stanton is as frustrated as anybody, but if you can't run to first base without pulling something then what are we doing here?
So while I understand being a DH doesn't completely mitigate the effects of the injury, if he's anywhere close to being able to play, he needs to be in there. Nobody on the team is 100% at this point the year and they've gotten far less rest than Stanton has this season.
If it's bad enough that he can't play these next 3 games, then get him off the roster, even if that means sacrificing the World Series with him. They can't have a short bench the rest of this series. They had a spot last night with Encarnacion as the winning run on 2nd base and nobody available to pinch run. Can't be short handed when the margin for error is so small in this series.
Tough loss last night. Felt like that game was ours to steal.
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Also... tomorrow is my 35th bday; I should probably just cut out of work and go to the game, right?
Have to join in on the Happy Birthday. As for cutting out of work, you'd be a fool not to, as they say. Especially if your health is unsteady. Boone may need to call on you!
Thank you!
I agree with you guys on Stanton. To see him yucking it up in the dugout kind of pissed me off. The guy has barely played at ALL this season and has made a ton of money to do a lot of nothing.
I'm not one of the people who didn't want him to come back because I thought he'd wreck the team chemistry or kill rallies, etc... but I was hoping to see a little more of a competitor. He doesn't seem like the type of guy who you have to do a whole lot to keep off the field if he's not 100%.
A lot of guys are playing banged up. You play the entire 162 game year for these moments. He should have been dying to get out on the field and maybe he was... it just didn't really look that way to me. It didn't look like he was all that bothered about not being out there.
And I know that's not totally fair... and it's almost like all the old Eli 'body language' stuff - but it's not always going to be fair when we're in NY and Stanton is making what he's making and has played as little as he's played this year.
If he can play, he's got to play. We cannot be that shorthanded again in Game 3. If he cant play tomorrow, take him off the roster. We don't have time to 'wait and see' anymore.
transistor radio my friend, about the size of a prayer book and no ear plugs.
I heard Bill Mazeroski's walk-off home run on a transistor radio on the school bus. Everyone was rooting for the Yankees (there was no NL team in NY in 1960) and we were all severely bummed out.
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paxton sucks
BleedBlue : 10/13/2019 8:46 pm : link : reply
we had happ and paxton, houston adds cole and grienke....
thats why they will be playing in WS
Not ever an hour into the game
Pathetic. Fucking. Loser. ‘Fan’.
LMFAO. so because i stated THREE facts. 1.paxton sucks 2. they added cole and grienke 3. we added happ and paxton
and then have the opinion(and still do) that the stros are going to the WS....that makes me a fake fan?
does it tho? or does it make me someone who understands the game of baseball and what it takes to win....our SP going 3 innings IS NOT sustainable and is not a winning formula come playoff time...it just isnt. cole will go fucking 8 innings on tuesday...THATS how you win. again...take a fucking hike. i dont care i you think i am a "fake" fan. i am just a fan who understands we wont win if we cant pitch
hope so!! i know the bronx will be rocking! hopefully we can get cole in game 3.
I'm taking the under
Annoying loss, but Yanks are winning this fucking series.
Cole is great. But they'll smack him around. This series doesnt go back to Houston. Yanks in 5.
The potential rain out on Wednesday will likely mean 4 straight days of games if it goes 7. Not ideal for the Yanks to not have an off day in those 4 days with how much Yanks will likely need from the bullpen
I'm taking the under
Annoying loss, but Yanks are winning this fucking series.
Cole is great. But they'll smack him around. This series doesnt go back to Houston. Yanks in 5.
The potential rain out on Wednesday will likely mean 4 straight days of games if it goes 7. Not ideal for the Yanks to not have an off day in those 4 days with how much Yanks will likely need from the bullpen
lmao. yea because watching EVERY game means you know baseball....
its common fucking sense. 2.1 innings from your starter isnt a winning formula. sorry that i know that in my "7.5" games and you dont in 162. again...if we dont pitch well, we wont win
If I was told that they would be 1-1 coming out of Houston I'd have been pretty doggone happy and I am. Just need Sevy to be Sevy on Tuesday.
After Otto gave up that HR to Springer all I could think of was Otto saying he would strike out Babe Ruth almost every time...one bad pitch.
Fresh start Tuesday. Bats wake up and we get 5+ from sevy we have a good shot
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to get a split in their building. I'm already over this loss. We're in good shape.
Fresh start Tuesday. Bats wake up and we get 5+ from sevy we have a good shot
It would be better for Sevy to just pitch a perfect game and everyone to hit homeruns. That might do it.
If I was told that they would be 1-1 coming out of Houston I'd have been pretty doggone happy and I am. Just need Sevy to be Sevy on Tuesday.
After Otto gave up that HR to Springer all I could think of was Otto saying he would strike out Babe Ruth almost every time...one bad pitch.
Ottavino screwed up the plan. Man had one job
Astros wanted no part of it in 2017. Actually, since then we had their number at the Bronx. Hoping for it to continue.
The main 5 guys in the bullpen did a great job with the exception of Ottavino. Jeez, he's completely fallen off.
I drop Sanchez down another spot in the order and would look to do the same with EE. If the pitching wasn't performing so well, I wouldn't be surprised if they gave Romine a chance. But they'll keep running Gary out there in hopes he'll run into one in a big spot.
Complain all you want about Happ, but we really only had Judge's bomb and that was it.
You aren't going to win many when you get 1 hit after the 6th inning.
We took one in Houston, which was needed and I think we frustrated Verlander a bit. Need to win 2 of 3 in NY now. Or better yet - a sweep.
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They had chances. Yeah Happ in that park was a accident waiting to happen.
If I was told that they would be 1-1 coming out of Houston I'd have been pretty doggone happy and I am. Just need Sevy to be Sevy on Tuesday.
After Otto gave up that HR to Springer all I could think of was Otto saying he would strike out Babe Ruth almost every time...one bad pitch.
Ottavino screwed up the plan. Man had one job
I understand why he brought in Otto, but Green was dealing. Green was at 26 pitches, so maybe he was looking down the road to game 4...
And I don't blame Boone for doing what he did. He was betting on his team scoring some time between the 5th and 10th.
Hitters gotta hit. Gary and Edwin have let them down bigtime so far.
But, reset for a moment - coming home at 1 apiece is something any rational NYY fan would have co-signed on Saturday morning.
And I don't blame Boone for doing what he did. He was betting on his team scoring some time between the 5th and 10th.
Hitters gotta hit. Gary and Edwin have let them down bigtime so far.
But, reset for a moment - coming home at 1 apiece is something any rational NYY fan would have co-signed on Saturday morning.
Gary had a couple epic battles last night. I really think he is zoning in. Eddie looked more lost than I have ever seen him. I wonder if he wasn't seeing the ball in those lights..
He is still expanding the zone with ridiculous frequency. He looks very pull happy early in counts, like he's guessing at pitches and deciding beforehand whether he's going to swing.
with 2 strikes, he did a better job of cutting down on the swing and actually reading and fighting off pitches.
It's frustrating, because he has the hit tool to use the whole field while also doing big damage to mistakes.
The lack of consistent, quality approach from him at this point is maddening.
When they face guys like Verlander and cole, they need to guess right. When they miss, they will look ugly. Edwin has had some poor AB's. He's missed pitches that were in the zone that he could drive and he's waved at some bad ones. Gary looks like he's tracking the ball better.
It won't be good for making it a short night for Cole from a pitch count standpoint, but we need to look for a certain pitch and swing at the first pitch when he's trying to get ahead of batters.
Should work both ways, but makes me feel even more helpless facing Cole.
But October is October. Let's get weird.
When they face guys like Verlander and cole, they need to guess right. When they miss, they will look ugly. Edwin has had some poor AB's. He's missed pitches that were in the zone that he could drive and he's waved at some bad ones. Gary looks like he's tracking the ball better.
It won't be good for making it a short night for Cole from a pitch count standpoint, but we need to look for a certain pitch and swing at the first pitch when he's trying to get ahead of batters.
With the quality of the hitters on both sides, I think the majority of both lineups were boom or bust last night. 2-2 through 10 innings with numerous chances on both sides.
Don't blame Happ, that would be shortsighted, the Yanks did absolutely nothing at the plate after Judge's homer.
Time for some of these guys to start hitting, like Edwin and El Gary for instance.
The next game is a 4:07 start time, as Smoltz said, hope for some clouds in October.
Would have preferred a night game.
Stanton is hurting again, what a shocker, he is a wuss!
My friends bought tickets for Thursday's game and trying to figure out what to do with flights up from Florida.
My friends bought tickets for Thursday's game and trying to figure out what to do with flights up from Florida.
Thursday is scheduled to be game 5 (third game in NYC),
if that game was rained out, would be pushed to Friday.
I was a little upset that Boone went to Ottavino when Green was throwing so well knowing Otto hasn't quite been as dominant lately. In retrospect, it was a sound decision looking at the numbers - SSS, but Springer didn't have a hit against Ottavino in the ~4 times he faced him and he had a couple off Green.
It just didn't work out. If he leaves Green in and Springer tattoos him, he gets the same questions and people ask why Ottavino wasn't in the game.
Sucks the Astros forced us to hold Chapman to 1 inning... Happ was never going to hold serve for long against that lineup.
It's tricky with the way we're navigating the postseason - we're basically set up where we only have 1 starter giving us normal starter length (Tanaka). Boone had to give Pax the early hook to keep the game close - which I was fine with - but Severino probably isn't going to give us any more than 4 tomorrow so again, we're going to have to really ride these leverage guys. Rain on Wednesday might be our friend...
It's a tough task. Meanwhile, they got 7 from Verlander and will probably get the same at least from Cole tomorrow... so the onus on their pen isn't quite the same.
This was always going to be a really hard series, though. The Yanks did their job getting a W @ Minute Maid. The odds of coming home with 2 wins in our pockets were really slim.
To win this thing, it's going to require 6-7 games and most of us knew and expected that going in. Frustrated to have last night get away - you could feel the tide start to turn once we burned through Britton and Chappy. We had a small window against Harris/Pressley but couldn't get that elusive big hit.
It is what it is. Take a deep breath, let's get home tomorrow and get back on track behind Sevy.
Also... tomorrow is my 35th bday; I should probably just cut out of work and go to the game, right?
Also... tomorrow is my 35th bday; I should probably just cut out of work and go to the game, right?
Happy Birthday.. BTW, you don't look well. Are you coming down with something..better take care it isn't the flu. Take a day to rest.
And yes... I agree.. I definitely think I'm coming down with something. My doc would probably just tell me to take a day off and watch some playoff baseball, so..
Oh wait - that places me as a lot older than 35!!!!
He'd be on full rest for Game 5 on Friday, if there's a Wednesday rainout. A lot depends on how Game 3 goes - if they're up 2-1, they may just roll their fourth starter out there in Game 4 and have Greinke, Verlander and Cole lined up for Games 5-7. An extra day of rest for Verlander might help at this point.
Oh wait - that places me as a lot older than 35!!!!
Pffft - transistor radio my friend, about the size of a prayer book and no ear plugs.
The game would come on between the Benny Goodman show and the Adventures of the Lone Ranger....
The game would come on between the Benny Goodman show and the Adventures of the Lone Ranger....
Are you sure they didn't have a Morse wireless or a ticker tape machine?
The game would come on between the Benny Goodman show and the Adventures of the Lone Ranger....
Hahaha
Doesn't sound like a big issue, but I think he was expressing how we all felt.
MrOctober - ( New Window )
We obviously don't have the insight into the extent of the injury. But if it's not bad enough to be taken off the roster, then he needs to be in the lineup. If it happened early in game 1 then it clearly wasn't bad enough to prevent him from hitting a bomb to CF later in the game. This is the spot we've been waiting all season to have Stanton. Hell if he's in there last night we might win that game. I'm a big fan of Stanton, but this is becoming pretty frustrating.
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Also... tomorrow is my 35th bday; I should probably just cut out of work and go to the game, right?
Have to join in on the Happy Birthday. As for cutting out of work, you'd be a fool not to, as they say. Especially if your health is unsteady. Boone may need to call on you!
We better get him this offseason.
Baseball is a game of periodic all out effort with the legs. If you can't run 100% without risking blowing out a mild strain, you have to tell the team and, once you do, it's not your decision whether you play.
Even if Stanton "just" DHs, it's not as though the only options are that he hits a HR or can otherwise jog back to the dugout.
What if he comes up with bases loaded one out and hits a ground ball?
If he's replaced on the roster now, he's out for the WS too; that's why he's in the dugout.
So while I understand being a DH doesn't completely mitigate the effects of the injury, if he's anywhere close to being able to play, he needs to be in there. Nobody on the team is 100% at this point the year and they've gotten far less rest than Stanton has this season.
If it's bad enough that he can't play these next 3 games, then get him off the roster, even if that means sacrificing the World Series with him. They can't have a short bench the rest of this series. They had a spot last night with Encarnacion as the winning run on 2nd base and nobody available to pinch run. Can't be short handed when the margin for error is so small in this series.
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Tough loss last night. Felt like that game was ours to steal.
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Also... tomorrow is my 35th bday; I should probably just cut out of work and go to the game, right?
Have to join in on the Happy Birthday. As for cutting out of work, you'd be a fool not to, as they say. Especially if your health is unsteady. Boone may need to call on you!
Thank you!
I agree with you guys on Stanton. To see him yucking it up in the dugout kind of pissed me off. The guy has barely played at ALL this season and has made a ton of money to do a lot of nothing.
I'm not one of the people who didn't want him to come back because I thought he'd wreck the team chemistry or kill rallies, etc... but I was hoping to see a little more of a competitor. He doesn't seem like the type of guy who you have to do a whole lot to keep off the field if he's not 100%.
A lot of guys are playing banged up. You play the entire 162 game year for these moments. He should have been dying to get out on the field and maybe he was... it just didn't really look that way to me. It didn't look like he was all that bothered about not being out there.
And I know that's not totally fair... and it's almost like all the old Eli 'body language' stuff - but it's not always going to be fair when we're in NY and Stanton is making what he's making and has played as little as he's played this year.
If he can play, he's got to play. We cannot be that shorthanded again in Game 3. If he cant play tomorrow, take him off the roster. We don't have time to 'wait and see' anymore.
I heard Bill Mazeroski's walk-off home run on a transistor radio on the school bus. Everyone was rooting for the Yankees (there was no NL team in NY in 1960) and we were all severely bummed out.
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Boone said Wednesday likely will be a “bullpen day.”