and whether it's something that should be gutted out, but I agree that if he can't go, they need to replace him, WS be dammed. Whether it's for a bat or Wade's legs, it's really costly to have a guy who can't go. And if they're saving him for the WS, they have to consider that if he's even a little limited in the WS he becomes a lot less valuable since DH is only even an option for 4 games.
Erik Boland
@eboland11
Boone said Wednesday likely will be a “bullpen day.”
We better hope Severino gives us a bit more length than Paxton.
I can't stand Smoltz, but the one point he's right on is that we don't have much margin for error the way we're going to play this postseason with our bullpen. The longer the series goes on, the more difficult it's going to be to navigate 9 innings if we have to keep going to the pen after 4.
Houston got 6 out of Greinke and 6.2 out of Verlander. Hard to see them getting less than that from Cole. So, they're putting a lot less stress on their pen than we are.
Tanaka actually did give us length, but, between Paxton's short outing, that Severino probably can't be counted on for much more than 4-5 innings at most, and the fact that we're going to use Game 4 as a bullpen game... we're asking a lot of these guys.
Side note... but does anyone believe the rumor that MLB went back to the 'de-juiced' balls for the Postseason? Something definitely seems a bit fishy with whatever has been going on with the baseballs this year.
There have been several balls hit where off the bat I thought were gone, just based on watching games all season and knowing what a HR tends to look like off the bat, and they've just died on the warning track. Definitely think it's possible they've messed with the balls again.
As far as the pitching, we miss Betances so damn much. The bullpen really gutted it out last night and gave the team a chance but we're a top guy short to be able to consistently pull off these bullpen games, especially with Otto struggling. Betances would have been in that spot against Springer instead.
Severino should be pretty close to a full go tomorrow. This is his fifth start, hopefully he's good for 100 pitches. We absolutely cannot be in the bullpen again by the 3rd or 4th inning.
Yeah, we're definitely walking the tight rope with this pitching staff Â
That's why last night was such a missed opportunity - offense has to hit Smith, Harris and Pressly late in a tie game. It'll be a shame if that winds up being the difference, but there's still plenty of baseball left to play. Beating Cole tomorrow would be a major statement - Astros may lot get out of New York if we can do it.
There have been several balls hit where off the bat I thought were gone, just based on watching games all season and knowing what a HR tends to look like off the bat, and they've just died on the warning track. Definitely think it's possible they've messed with the balls again.
As far as the pitching, we miss Betances so damn much. The bullpen really gutted it out last night and gave the team a chance but we're a top guy short to be able to consistently pull off these bullpen games, especially with Otto struggling. Betances would have been in that spot against Springer instead.
Severino should be pretty close to a full go tomorrow. This is his fifth start, hopefully he's good for 100 pitches. We absolutely cannot be in the bullpen again by the 3rd or 4th inning.
Definitely felt the absence of Betances big time last night. In those late innings, that's all I kept thinking to myself.
Somebody should bring a sign to the game that says “Gerrite we will be Â
And you know I didn’t like the Stanton trade, people wanted to argue with me that the actual 25M we are paying him is chump change. Well, I think we are paying him more than 1M a game this year, somehow he managed to miss 150 games without anything torn or fractured. What’s going on here? It’s one thing to not handle pressurized baseball, it’s another to not bother showing up.
Stanton or anyone else. Baseball at the top level is close to a 365 job requiring great attention and intensity and discipline. The idea that the guy or any guy on the Yankees is being a flake or not caring or shrugging it off or just collecting his money is well...imo...unfounded and not good thinking.
Were their suspects like that? Sure. Pavano. Irabu. Likely Ellsbury
Were their various guys who's undisciplined lack of taking care of themselves left a lot of bad ABS and errors and suboptimal performance on the field? And would not fit on the current Yankees? sure
Mickey Mantle, Billy Martin, Ford, Skowron, Boyer and a guy called Babe Ruth come to mind.
But I have no evidence that sub effort applies to Stanton.
More interestingly, I think the Yankees intend ( even this offseason) to go after hitters who shrink and stay in the zone, then hit hard and if possible with a slight lift.
I think they are slowly also valuing defense more and more ( when you look at some of the decisions they have made)
On the pitching side, more and more they try to go no more than 2 times through the lineup ( unless its the other teams b0ttom end of the lineup coming up) and then change eyelevel, spin rates, pitch recognition, delivery mechanics the opposing hitters see by multiple pitchers.
Yeah yeah its easy to say ( like that idiot Buck repeats and repeats) that some thing can go wrong. But that is offset by the mountain of hitting obstacles new pitching variations present. ( Green high in the zone/Britton low in the zone/Kahnle side to side/Chapman up and down eye levels).
I think the Yankees will continue to compete via savages in the box and a differentiated bullpen and several players who can play two or more positions. May not have the one more horse this year in the bullpen to pull it off, but I think that's how they are trying to compete/build versus the other top six super organizations.
all just imo
still can't believe that Smith joker completely shut them down Â
I typically don't like to theorize on how injured players are or aren't - I guess I've just become a bit frustrated with the way Stanton's year has gone. Feels like he's played less than 5 games and wound up injured on 3 separate occasions now this year. It's hard to figure out why he's been so injury prone or if it's just a bad coincidence - but a game like last night, we really needed him and he was unavailable, which left us shorthanded and really sucked.
Apparently they think he'll be able to give it a go tomorrow. I hope he can. Would love to see him hit one out in a big spot and see the stadium erupt.
There have been several balls hit where off the bat I thought were gone, just based on watching games all season and knowing what a HR tends to look like off the bat, and they've just died on the warning track. Definitely think it's possible they've messed with the balls again.
As far as the pitching, we miss Betances so damn much. The bullpen really gutted it out last night and gave the team a chance but we're a top guy short to be able to consistently pull off these bullpen games, especially with Otto struggling. Betances would have been in that spot against Springer instead.
Severino should be pretty close to a full go tomorrow. This is his fifth start, hopefully he's good for 100 pitches. We absolutely cannot be in the bullpen again by the 3rd or 4th inning.
Definitely felt the absence of Betances big time last night. In those late innings, that's all I kept thinking to myself.
Same here and I was thinking the same with German too. This pen would've been deadly with both of those guys added to it.
Totally forgot about German. He could’ve been the fourth Â
starter. And if Betances were available, Boone’d make every starter an opener!
Yeah and every starter being able to get an out or even an inning out of the pen on their throw days if needed. The Nats have done that already with Sherzer and Corbin with great success.
No Stanton, Hicks starts in center, Gardy in left, Edwin DH. Â
Erik Boland
@eboland11
Boone said Wednesday likely will be a “bullpen day.”
We better hope Severino gives us a bit more length than Paxton.
I can't stand Smoltz, but the one point he's right on is that we don't have much margin for error the way we're going to play this postseason with our bullpen. The longer the series goes on, the more difficult it's going to be to navigate 9 innings if we have to keep going to the pen after 4.
Houston got 6 out of Greinke and 6.2 out of Verlander. Hard to see them getting less than that from Cole. So, they're putting a lot less stress on their pen than we are.
Tanaka actually did give us length, but, between Paxton's short outing, that Severino probably can't be counted on for much more than 4-5 innings at most, and the fact that we're going to use Game 4 as a bullpen game... we're asking a lot of these guys.
Side note... but does anyone believe the rumor that MLB went back to the 'de-juiced' balls for the Postseason? Something definitely seems a bit fishy with whatever has been going on with the baseballs this year.
As far as the pitching, we miss Betances so damn much. The bullpen really gutted it out last night and gave the team a chance but we're a top guy short to be able to consistently pull off these bullpen games, especially with Otto struggling. Betances would have been in that spot against Springer instead.
Severino should be pretty close to a full go tomorrow. This is his fifth start, hopefully he's good for 100 pitches. We absolutely cannot be in the bullpen again by the 3rd or 4th inning.
IF we can do it...
As far as the pitching, we miss Betances so damn much. The bullpen really gutted it out last night and gave the team a chance but we're a top guy short to be able to consistently pull off these bullpen games, especially with Otto struggling. Betances would have been in that spot against Springer instead.
Severino should be pretty close to a full go tomorrow. This is his fifth start, hopefully he's good for 100 pitches. We absolutely cannot be in the bullpen again by the 3rd or 4th inning.
Definitely felt the absence of Betances big time last night. In those late innings, that's all I kept thinking to myself.
And you know I didn’t like the Stanton trade, people wanted to argue with me that the actual 25M we are paying him is chump change. Well, I think we are paying him more than 1M a game this year, somehow he managed to miss 150 games without anything torn or fractured. What’s going on here? It’s one thing to not handle pressurized baseball, it’s another to not bother showing up.
Stanton or anyone else. Baseball at the top level is close to a 365 job requiring great attention and intensity and discipline. The idea that the guy or any guy on the Yankees is being a flake or not caring or shrugging it off or just collecting his money is well...imo...unfounded and not good thinking.
Were their suspects like that? Sure. Pavano. Irabu. Likely Ellsbury
Were their various guys who's undisciplined lack of taking care of themselves left a lot of bad ABS and errors and suboptimal performance on the field? And would not fit on the current Yankees? sure
Mickey Mantle, Billy Martin, Ford, Skowron, Boyer and a guy called Babe Ruth come to mind.
But I have no evidence that sub effort applies to Stanton.
More interestingly, I think the Yankees intend ( even this offseason) to go after hitters who shrink and stay in the zone, then hit hard and if possible with a slight lift.
I think they are slowly also valuing defense more and more ( when you look at some of the decisions they have made)
On the pitching side, more and more they try to go no more than 2 times through the lineup ( unless its the other teams b0ttom end of the lineup coming up) and then change eyelevel, spin rates, pitch recognition, delivery mechanics the opposing hitters see by multiple pitchers.
Yeah yeah its easy to say ( like that idiot Buck repeats and repeats) that some thing can go wrong. But that is offset by the mountain of hitting obstacles new pitching variations present. ( Green high in the zone/Britton low in the zone/Kahnle side to side/Chapman up and down eye levels).
I think the Yankees will continue to compete via savages in the box and a differentiated bullpen and several players who can play two or more positions. May not have the one more horse this year in the bullpen to pull it off, but I think that's how they are trying to compete/build versus the other top six super organizations.
all just imo
I typically don't like to theorize on how injured players are or aren't - I guess I've just become a bit frustrated with the way Stanton's year has gone. Feels like he's played less than 5 games and wound up injured on 3 separate occasions now this year. It's hard to figure out why he's been so injury prone or if it's just a bad coincidence - but a game like last night, we really needed him and he was unavailable, which left us shorthanded and really sucked.
Apparently they think he'll be able to give it a go tomorrow. I hope he can. Would love to see him hit one out in a big spot and see the stadium erupt.
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There have been several balls hit where off the bat I thought were gone, just based on watching games all season and knowing what a HR tends to look like off the bat, and they've just died on the warning track. Definitely think it's possible they've messed with the balls again.
As far as the pitching, we miss Betances so damn much. The bullpen really gutted it out last night and gave the team a chance but we're a top guy short to be able to consistently pull off these bullpen games, especially with Otto struggling. Betances would have been in that spot against Springer instead.
Severino should be pretty close to a full go tomorrow. This is his fifth start, hopefully he's good for 100 pitches. We absolutely cannot be in the bullpen again by the 3rd or 4th inning.
Definitely felt the absence of Betances big time last night. In those late innings, that's all I kept thinking to myself.
Same here and I was thinking the same with German too. This pen would've been deadly with both of those guys added to it.
Yeah and every starter being able to get an out or even an inning out of the pen on their throw days if needed. The Nats have done that already with Sherzer and Corbin with great success.