But this is two games Encarnation looks horrible in a row
yea, he is a good hitter though and he will snap out of it
Most likely. But if Stanton can come back game 3 he might be on the bench. Guy was great all year. Just last night and tonight he looks like he’s pressing a bit
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
My point is that is been reported that they are doing camera stuff to stream signs. I’m old enough to remember Gaylord Perry throwing spitters. If they get away with it legal or illegal it’s what it is but if they are stealing signs they are likely going to say he was tipping his pitches to cover their asses
They weren’t stealing signs. They noticed something about how he was holding his glove. This is from the Tampa Bay game a few days ago but to give you a visual.
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
Agreed. It was well documented in last years playoffs the Red Sox figured out something Severino did to tip his pitchers with men on base. They found it by studying video...can’t argue with that.
Using video to steal and relay signs real time is a different story.
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
Agreed. It was well documented in last years playoffs the Red Sox figured out something Severino did to tip his pitchers with men on base. They found it by studying video...can’t argue with that.
Using video to steal and relay signs real time is a different story.
They need to self scout and figure out what went wrong though.
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
My point is that is been reported that they are doing camera stuff to stream signs. I’m old enough to remember Gaylord Perry throwing spitters. If they get away with it legal or illegal it’s what it is but if they are stealing signs they are likely going to say he was tipping his pitches to cover their asses
Ahh ok. I didn't see or hear anything about them using cameras. If that's true you may be right about using the tipping pitches as a cover.
I'm old enough to remember Gaylord too, and it seemed like what he did was more or less accepted. Either that or he was a master at not getting caught that often.
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
My point is that is been reported that they are doing camera stuff to stream signs. I’m old enough to remember Gaylord Perry throwing spitters. If they get away with it legal or illegal it’s what it is but if they are stealing signs they are likely going to say he was tipping his pitches to cover their asses
Ahh ok. I didn't see or hear anything about them using cameras. If that's true you may be right about using the tipping pitches as a cover.
I'm old enough to remember Gaylord too, and it seemed like what he did was more or less accepted. Either that or he was a master at not getting caught that often.
Some of it is also mental Gamesmanship. Who knows. Getting into you Opponents head is huge in a series like this. Meanwhile Didi making Verlander work.
made him make a lot of pitches and throws over to 1st. Over 80 pitches now. That may keep him from getting out of the 7th. Interesting to see if he tries to get another inning out of Green here to try and hand it to Kahnle/Otto/Brit/Chappy
making Verlander sweat it out some more this inning
Agreed and it's AB's like those that make this lineup so tough to get through. There's no letup and guys 1-9 can hurt you.
It's not easy even for a great pitcher like Verlander, and it's got to be a bit mentally draining as well as physical. Like he can't exhale til he gets back in the dugout.
Damn, Green really got him to climb the ladder there Â
Green gives up the HR and you're saying 'why the hell did they stick with Green for so long'. That's their MO, and it has worked well for them overall.
Here comes another reliever who's been shaky. As Bill2 astutely pointed out, the Betances injury probably looms larger than the rest - he was the unlucky one of the group. Hope Kahnle has an out in him.
Aaron F-king JUDGE!
There it was. Not a bloop and a blast like I called for but I'll take the walk and a blast!
All Rise!
yea, he is a good hitter though and he will snap out of it
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But this is two games Encarnation looks horrible in a row
yea, he is a good hitter though and he will snap out of it
Most likely. But if Stanton can come back game 3 he might be on the bench. Guy was great all year. Just last night and tonight he looks like he’s pressing a bit
It was. Shows Verlander is no Superman. Good, but . . . .
Glad to see Green in there putting out the fire, too.
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Are they going to admit they steal signs?
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
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Are they going to admit they steal signs?
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
My point is that is been reported that they are doing camera stuff to stream signs. I’m old enough to remember Gaylord Perry throwing spitters. If they get away with it legal or illegal it’s what it is but if they are stealing signs they are likely going to say he was tipping his pitches to cover their asses
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Are they going to admit they steal signs?
They weren’t stealing signs. They noticed something about how he was holding his glove. This is from the Tampa Bay game a few days ago but to give you a visual.
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Paxton Tipping pitches Paxton - ( New Window )
Are they going to admit they steal signs?
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
Agreed. It was well documented in last years playoffs the Red Sox figured out something Severino did to tip his pitchers with men on base. They found it by studying video...can’t argue with that.
Using video to steal and relay signs real time is a different story.
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Paxton Tipping pitches Paxton - ( New Window )
Are they going to admit they steal signs?
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
Agreed. It was well documented in last years playoffs the Red Sox figured out something Severino did to tip his pitchers with men on base. They found it by studying video...can’t argue with that.
Using video to steal and relay signs real time is a different story.
They need to self scout and figure out what went wrong though.
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In comment 14627327 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Paxton Tipping pitches Paxton - ( New Window )
Are they going to admit they steal signs?
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
My point is that is been reported that they are doing camera stuff to stream signs. I’m old enough to remember Gaylord Perry throwing spitters. If they get away with it legal or illegal it’s what it is but if they are stealing signs they are likely going to say he was tipping his pitches to cover their asses
Ahh ok. I didn't see or hear anything about them using cameras. If that's true you may be right about using the tipping pitches as a cover.
I'm old enough to remember Gaylord too, and it seemed like what he did was more or less accepted. Either that or he was a master at not getting caught that often.
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Paxton Tipping pitches Paxton - ( New Window )
Are they going to admit they steal signs?
Nothing wrong with that if they spot something and use it to their advantage. As long as it's not from and cameras or eyes in the sky type of thing.
If a coach or player picks up on something that's part of the game and not illegal.
My point is that is been reported that they are doing camera stuff to stream signs. I’m old enough to remember Gaylord Perry throwing spitters. If they get away with it legal or illegal it’s what it is but if they are stealing signs they are likely going to say he was tipping his pitches to cover their asses
Ahh ok. I didn't see or hear anything about them using cameras. If that's true you may be right about using the tipping pitches as a cover.
I'm old enough to remember Gaylord too, and it seemed like what he did was more or less accepted. Either that or he was a master at not getting caught that often.
Some of it is also mental Gamesmanship. Who knows. Getting into you Opponents head is huge in a series like this. Meanwhile Didi making Verlander work.
Agreed and it's AB's like those that make this lineup so tough to get through. There's no letup and guys 1-9 can hurt you.
It's not easy even for a great pitcher like Verlander, and it's got to be a bit mentally draining as well as physical. Like he can't exhale til he gets back in the dugout.
You're playing with fire with Green after about 25 pitches.
Green at 26 pitches vs top of the lineup? You make a change. Ottavino didn't get the job done there but any manager would make the same call.
i agree
Needs to knuckle down here.
You can't manage that way in the playoffs and especially a 7 game series.
Head scratching.