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RasputinPrime : 10/13/2019 5:50 pm


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RE: That decision by Boone  
jcn56 : 10/13/2019 10:18 pm : link
In comment 14627434 MookGiants said:
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was made long before the inning even started, hell it was probably made before the series even started.

You can't manage that way in the playoffs and especially a 7 game series.


I'd argue that the playoffs is especially when you don't want to deviate from the playbook.

Look at the Tanaka situation yesterday - could easily have left him in more, he was cruising. But all the analytics forecasted a breakdown on the horizon. Do you go with 'gut' - or do you trust the process and expect that the third time through the lineup is going to bring pain to a guy who's otherwise on fire?

Both were the right decisions, IMO - just that Ottovino hasn't been steady lately.
RE: That decision by Boone  
Eman11 : 10/13/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14627434 MookGiants said:
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was made long before the inning even started, hell it was probably made before the series even started.

You can't manage that way in the playoffs and especially a 7 game series.


I'd bet their scouting reports showed Springer having more trouble with the slider than fastball and that's why he went with Otto.

Can't blame Boone there for Otto hanging one. Springer was swinging all the way and that pitch should've been nowhere near the strike zone. Let alone a hanger right down the middle.
RE: That decision by Boone  
Percy : 10/13/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14627434 MookGiants said:
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was made long before the inning even started, hell it was probably made before the series even started.

You can't manage that way in the playoffs and especially a 7 game series.

So far it's working. "Hot hand" just doesn't ever work. It's in the numbers, the odds. Like it or not.
Kahnle!  
Stu11 : 10/13/2019 10:22 pm : link
a little hyped up tonight as the change was sitting in the ;ow 90's, but the movement on that last one was filthy.
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threeofakind33 : 10/13/2019 10:22 pm : link
Kahnle’s stuff looked absolutely vicious there. Good grief.

98MPH fastballs and an absolutely devastating, fall-off-the-table changeup. Wow.
RE: RE: That decision by Boone  
mfsd : 10/13/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14627443 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14627434 MookGiants said:


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was made long before the inning even started, hell it was probably made before the series even started.

You can't manage that way in the playoffs and especially a 7 game series.



I'd bet their scouting reports showed Springer having more trouble with the slider than fastball and that's why he went with Otto.

Can't blame Boone there for Otto hanging one. Springer was swinging all the way and that pitch should've been nowhere near the strike zone. Let alone a hanger right down the middle.


Yup they just said it on the broadcast - Springer was 0-4 with 3 Ks against Ottavino.

That was less about a bad decision by Boone, and more Ottavino just made a bad pitch, and a good hitter didn’t miss it.
Playoff Baseball is intense  
dune69 : 10/13/2019 10:22 pm : link
Are we having fun?
RE: Playoff Baseball is intense  
Percy : 10/13/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14627451 dune69 said:
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Are we having fun?

Yeah, we are.
Ottavino  
UConn4523 : 10/13/2019 10:24 pm : link
hung one, it sucks but that’s what happened. You can’t be pissed when the strategy that got us here doesn’t work on the rare occasion. It was also a solo shot and the game is tied, it was hardly a death blow to the game.
RE: That decision by Boone  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/13/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14627434 MookGiants said:
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was made long before the inning even started, hell it was probably made before the series even started.

You can't manage that way in the playoffs and especially a 7 game series.


This really makes no sense.

Boone decided to pull Paxton before the series started? And mapped up that Green would go and take him out while hot??

He's not going to keep any of the core relievers in for 3 innings. If he brought CC or Happ in - then you'd be perplexed at the pitching change, but Green could easily have given up the same HR and then the complaint would be Boone stuck with a reliever more than 2 innings.

Armchair managing sounds easy, but it's really just whining at the outcome
Big balls on Tommy Tightpants  
Greg from LI : 10/13/2019 10:24 pm : link
4 inning game now, 0-0. Let's get to Verlander this one. Had some good ABs last inning and Urshela almost put one in the seats. Just do a little better this time.
RE: 3 guys  
Eman11 : 10/13/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14627439 MookGiants said:
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to try and get 3 outs in a game where your starter didn't get out of the 3rd inning.

Head scratching.


Why is it head scratching? They did what needed to be done to get out of the inning tied and move forward.

Look at the success Tampa had vs them throwing all their guys. The Yanks went with 13 pitchers for a reason, and with the day off tomorrow, don't be surprised to see everyone but Sevy and Masa tonight.
All right  
dune69 : 10/13/2019 10:25 pm : link
DJ
Big..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/13/2019 10:25 pm : link
hit by DJ to lead it off.
they deadened the ball  
black aces : 10/13/2019 10:27 pm : link
for sure
Bah...he smoked that ball  
Greg from LI : 10/13/2019 10:28 pm : link
Verlander been getting some luck, too
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threeofakind33 : 10/13/2019 10:29 pm : link
Smoltz is seriously a fucking moron. MLB needs to pull their head out of their ass and get someone who understands the modern game on these games.

That Verlander gets better the third time around explanation was nonsensical.
RE: RE: That decision by Boone  
MookGiants : 10/13/2019 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14627455 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14627434 MookGiants said:


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was made long before the inning even started, hell it was probably made before the series even started.

You can't manage that way in the playoffs and especially a 7 game series.



This really makes no sense.

Boone decided to pull Paxton before the series started? And mapped up that Green would go and take him out while hot??

He's not going to keep any of the core relievers in for 3 innings. If he brought CC or Happ in - then you'd be perplexed at the pitching change, but Green could easily have given up the same HR and then the complaint would be Boone stuck with a reliever more than 2 innings.

Armchair managing sounds easy, but it's really just whining at the outcome


Not Paxton. The move to take Green out at a certain pitch number or with a certain batter coming up.

Paxton getting yanked was the right decision, imo.

Keep talking Smoltz  
dune69 : 10/13/2019 10:29 pm : link
Good job Gleyber
Need a big hit here  
mfsd : 10/13/2019 10:31 pm : link
come on Edwin!
RE: Need a big hit here  
black aces : 10/13/2019 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14627470 mfsd said:
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come on Edwin!


Missed a hittable one there
,,,,  
BleedBlue : 10/13/2019 10:32 pm : link
not a good AB there by EE

well hopefully verlander only has one more in him.

Would love..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/13/2019 10:33 pm : link
to see a 10 pitch AB here ending in a lined double
RE: Would love..  
BleedBlue : 10/13/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14627475 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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to see a 10 pitch AB here ending in a lined double



be great haha
WTF!!!  
BleedBlue : 10/13/2019 10:38 pm : link
why send him?!?
Ouch  
Mad Mike : 10/13/2019 10:38 pm : link
*
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threeofakind33 : 10/13/2019 10:38 pm : link
This guy has a horseshoe shoved up his ass tonight.
wtf  
black aces : 10/13/2019 10:38 pm : link
nevin
Huh?  
bubba0825 : 10/13/2019 10:38 pm : link
Why send him?
RE: WTF!!!  
Percy : 10/13/2019 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14627481 BleedBlue said:
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why send him?!?

Insane!
Fuck  
mfsd : 10/13/2019 10:38 pm : link
Ball just didn’t get away far enough.
verlander  
black aces : 10/13/2019 10:38 pm : link
was very hittable that inning
Awful choice to send him  
jgambrosio : 10/13/2019 10:39 pm : link
That probably would have taken him out of the game
Damn..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/13/2019 10:39 pm : link
thought that was going to go through
Why send him  
beatrixkiddo : 10/13/2019 10:39 pm : link
With Sanchez on deck? Worst decision so far.
That was fucking dumb.  
Hsilwek92 : 10/13/2019 10:39 pm : link
Just fucking so stupid.
,,,,  
BleedBlue : 10/13/2019 10:39 pm : link
nevin head up ass....


bases loaded for sanchez with verlander around 100 pitches and laboring
RE: .  
Stu11 : 10/13/2019 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14627483 threeofakind33 said:
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This guy has a horseshoe shoved up his ass tonight.

He has gotten some luck, but to be fair they hit some vicious at'em balls in the early innings too
Just bad luck there  
UConn4523 : 10/13/2019 10:39 pm : link
probably though it was going to bounce in the outfield.
you have a split second  
MookGiants : 10/13/2019 10:39 pm : link
to decide whether or not to send him, once it gets away from Altuve you have to, it just took a lucky bounce for the Astros. That ball hops anywhere else and it's 3-2 yankees, 1st and 3rd.
RE: you have a split second  
dune69 : 10/13/2019 10:40 pm : link
In comment 14627498 MookGiants said:
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to decide whether or not to send him, once it gets away from Altuve you have to, it just took a lucky bounce for the Astros. That ball hops anywhere else and it's 3-2 yankees, 1st and 3rd.


This
Oh, Phil Nevin, why do you hurt me so  
Greg from LI : 10/13/2019 10:41 pm : link
Re: pulling Green - a dude on Twitter looked up the numbers on who had the highest slugging 0ercentage in all of MLB against four seam fastballs (ie, the only pitch Green really throws), and it was none other than George Springer.
Oh please  
MookGiants : 10/13/2019 10:41 pm : link
that's not on Nevin. The only problem with that play for the Yanks was that it took a really lucky bounce for the Astros.

And we dont even know if DJ went on his own
GIOOOOOO!  
bceagle05 : 10/13/2019 10:41 pm : link
Nice!
RE: you have a split second  
Stu11 : 10/13/2019 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14627498 MookGiants said:
[quote] to decide whether or not to send him, once it gets away from Altuve you have to, it just took a lucky bounce for the Astros. That ball hops anywhere else and it's 3-2 yankees, 1st and 3rd. [/quote
yea and usually the SS isn't as close to the 2b
Hold my beer Bregman!  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/13/2019 10:41 pm : link
-Gio
...  
christian : 10/13/2019 10:41 pm : link
That's a split second decision. That ball just trickled the exact right way. That's baseball. I'd rather have a 3B coach not operate out of fear.
Gio  
dune69 : 10/13/2019 10:42 pm : link
is an 8 footer!!
Holy fuck  
UConn4523 : 10/13/2019 10:42 pm : link
Gio!
RE: Huh?  
Eman11 : 10/13/2019 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14627485 bubba0825 said:
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Why send him?


If it was a 2-2 pitch I doubt he would've but at 3-2 DJ was running on the pitch and rounding third as the ball bounced away from Altuve. If it rolls away from him a little more instead of right to Correa, he scores.

Put the pressure on them to make the play and they did,
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