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Beezer : 10/13/2019 11:33 pm
A handful of Cowboys fans that I am acquainted with through Facebook or just going off on Garrett and think he should be fired this week. I suppose I understand the thought that the guy at the helm gets that treatment, but it seems like these folks - every year - flap their jaws when that team is winning, but when they donít? Fire Garrett!

I thought the Jets played their best game of the season. Darnold looked terrific, Bell did his thing in spots, the O-line played well enough, and the Jets defense had a decent plan and held on.

All in all, I couldnít be more happy to see Cowboys fans melting down. It would be nice one time to hear some of these idiots just give credit where itís due.
The Cowboys fan at work has been  
St. Jimmy : 10/13/2019 11:48 pm : link
trotting out the I want them to lose so they will fire Garrett going back to last season. He always wasn't watching when they lose too.
Cowboys lose to a winless team, Eagles get humiliated...  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/14/2019 12:12 am : link
...the week definitely ended on a high note!
I'll say this...  
bw in dc : 10/14/2019 12:24 am : link
that TO he took on that last TD drive was moronic. Keeping it would have allowed them to kick off deep, use all 3 TOs, and maybe get the ball back with 30-33 seconds left with decent field position and only needing a FG...
94 on the Jets played a good game  
madgiantscow009 : 10/14/2019 1:33 am : link
up front. 95 Quinnen Williams made some plays too.
From what I saw the main problem was their much vaunted  
bigbluescot : 10/14/2019 4:07 am : link
offense. They just looked incredibly poor in the first half.
RE: From what I saw the main problem was their much vaunted  
bw in dc : 10/14/2019 7:13 am : link
In comment 14627870 bigbluescot said:
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offense. They just looked incredibly poor in the first half.


They played without their two pro bowl tackles. And Cooper went down with a quad injury. Huge losses.
Losing to the winless Jets looks pretty bad for  
ZogZerg : 10/14/2019 7:30 am : link
the Super Bowl Favorite Cowboys. LOL

What a Great day yesterday.
Cowboys get embarrassed
Eagles get embarrassed
and Skins barely beat the high school dolphins team. I certainly wanted skins to win, don't want them getting first pick. Couldn't have happened in a better way.

And the icing on the cake - Cleveland loses yet again.
I hope Garrett gets a lifetime  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/14/2019 7:36 am : link
extension.
I'll also tell you  
Dnew15 : 10/14/2019 7:49 am : link
that the Cowboys - as much as I hate them - got hosed by the refs yesterday.
RE: RE: From what I saw the main problem was their much vaunted  
giants#1 : 10/14/2019 7:50 am : link
In comment 14627885 bw in dc said:
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offense. They just looked incredibly poor in the first half.



They played without their two pro bowl tackles. And Cooper went down with a quad injury. Huge losses.


Collins has never made an pro bowl or all-pro team.
I will also tell you all  
Jimmy Googs : 10/14/2019 7:51 am : link
Dak Prescott is a tough son of bitch...
Cowboys do have a lot of injures  
DavidinBMNY : 10/14/2019 7:56 am : link
And so do we and many other teams. No one feels sorry for them.

And the Cowboys/Eagles match up is going to have the Cowboys thin at WR with Eagles crappy / banged up secondary.

No team in the NFC East looks strong right now.

49ers and Saints are the teams to beat. Vikings are getting their grove on as well - they have a strong team across the board. Everyone else is just OK at best.

For us - it comes down to can our team beat other mediocre teams.
The Cowboys..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/14/2019 8:13 am : link
look pedestrian with an average OL. Go figure!

I've said that the best thing for us last season was having the Cowboys win by default. It allows Jerrah to keep Garrett and resign Zeke and Dak.
The drive at the end with all of the penalties was tough to watch.  
Gmen1982 : 10/14/2019 8:14 am : link
It got really annoying.
RE: I will also tell you all  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/14/2019 8:20 am : link
In comment 14627902 Jimmy Googs said:
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Dak Prescott is a tough son of bitch...

Hard to think of an apt comparison, but an exaggerated comparison would be Cam. He does shrug off hits and gets back up. Give the man his 400 million contract Jerry.
RE: The drive at the end with all of the penalties was tough to watch.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/14/2019 8:22 am : link
In comment 14627931 Gmen1982 said:
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It got really annoying.

BS PI call, then like 10 flags to make up for the previous bad call. Definitely altered the end of the game.
There are two Cowboys fans in my life  
Ben in Tampa : 10/14/2019 8:27 am : link
One of them an older guy and the other younger, in his late 20s.

Both of them have wanted Garrett fired for years.
Garrett is in the last year  
johnnyb : 10/14/2019 8:35 am : link
of his contract. A lame duck. Would not be surprised if he does not return as Cowboy coach but doubt very much he is fired mid-season. Too disruptive a move for a team that has playoff potential despite yesterday's loss.
I hate the Dallas Cowboys...  
M.S. : 10/14/2019 8:45 am : link

...but what good is the schadenfreude when they outclass the Giants in every phase of the game, and continually kick the living shit out of us whenever we go up against them?
I do not expect Garrett back  
markky : 10/14/2019 8:56 am : link
Jerry gave him a chance to win and it isnít going to happen. Their OC will be promoted to HC for 2020
The shine..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/14/2019 8:57 am : link
is starting to wear off of Kellen Moore. There's already whispers that teams are figuring out his tendencies.
RE: The shine..  
bw in dc : 10/14/2019 8:59 am : link
In comment 14627988 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is starting to wear off of Kellen Moore. There's already whispers that teams are figuring out his tendencies.


Saints claimed they figured out his hand signals from his days at Boise State.
RE: I hate the Dallas Cowboys...  
joeinpa : 10/14/2019 9:00 am : link
In comment 14627968 M.S. said:
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...but what good is the schadenfreude when they outclass the Giants in every phase of the game, and continually kick the living shit out of us whenever we go up against them?


I for one am hopeful that changes in the near future. If and when it does, I would like the games against them to have meaning for the playoffs.

Yesterdayís losses by the Eagles and the Cowboys was a step in the direction of the latter.
RE: The shine..  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/14/2019 9:04 am : link
In comment 14627988 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is starting to wear off of Kellen Moore. There's already whispers that teams are figuring out his tendencies.


He has been very good the in second half of games. I just think yesterday was one of those games where they went up against a very inspired football team at home. Dallas will be in full panic mode if they lose to the Eagles. Lucky bastards have their bye at the perfect time for them and right before us to boot. Kind of rooting for them to win next week.
I have always thought  
Glover : 10/14/2019 9:06 am : link
Garrett was a very average coach. If he had a good team, they won, when they didn't have a good team, they didn't win. He is not the kind of coach that is going to make a big difference in either motivation or preparation, and the Cowboys have been good a few times since he has been HC, but they could never get over the hump and make it to a Superbowl. He and Dak are very similar, good, but not great.
Part of me wants them to fire Garrett at season's end  
Jay on the Island : 10/14/2019 9:07 am : link
that would mean that Rod Marinelli and Kris Richard were free agents. The Giants would be foolish not to try to bring either of them in to replace Bettcher. Marinelli has done a masterful job in Dallas.
RE: The Cowboys fan at work has been  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 10/14/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14627654 St. Jimmy said:
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trotting out the I want them to lose so they will fire Garrett going back to last season. He always wasn't watching when they lose too.


Doesnt watch them and wants them to lose...great fan.
COwboys were awful the first 2/3 of that game  
PatersonPlank : 10/14/2019 9:34 am : link
Then tehy woke up and should have won anyway. If they get the 2 pointer they win (the Jets weren't stopping them at the end), if the kicker hits a 39 yard FG they win, if they went for the short FG in the 1st half they win.

This was a Cowboy loss a lot more than it was a Jets win. The last 1.5 quarters the score was 20-3 and that includes a missed Cowboy chip shot FG and 2 pt conversion.
Its not Kellen Moore  
ChicagoMarty : 10/14/2019 9:41 am : link
Garrett still runs the show.

Note yesterday how Romo was still calling out the likely plays based on what part of the field and what formation they were in.

Romo could not do that if Garrett was not still there running old Cowboy plays
RE: I'll say this...  
djm : 10/14/2019 10:08 am : link
In comment 14627709 bw in dc said:
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that TO he took on that last TD drive was moronic. Keeping it would have allowed them to kick off deep, use all 3 TOs, and maybe get the ball back with 30-33 seconds left with decent field position and only needing a FG...


You this happen frequently where the HC basically puts all his eggs in that one basket when he uses that critical TO before that critical play-call. Youíd think the HC would have the play lined up already and would save the TO there.
RE: The Cowboys..  
djm : 10/14/2019 10:10 am : link
In comment 14627928 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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look pedestrian with an average OL. Go figure!

I've said that the best thing for us last season was having the Cowboys win by default. It allows Jerrah to keep Garrett and resign Zeke and Dak.


Any chance the giants could win this division by default? Iím all for it!
The Cowboys are starting to tune out Garrett which is what happens  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/14/2019 10:17 am : link
when you have been there a decade and haven't won anything other than the NFC East. There was a shot of him trying to get his offense fired up before they went out there and they looked like they could give less of a shit.
Every body wants to  
Dnew15 : 10/14/2019 10:18 am : link
fire the coach - that's the answer to every team that is struggling right now. Says fans everywhere.
Dallas - Eagle game couldn't come at a better tume  
ZogZerg : 10/14/2019 10:23 am : link
Both 3-3, coming off embarrassing loss.
Should be a great watch.
RE: Its not Kellen Moore  
giants#1 : 10/14/2019 10:23 am : link
In comment 14628057 ChicagoMarty said:
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Garrett still runs the show.

Note yesterday how Romo was still calling out the likely plays based on what part of the field and what formation they were in.

Romo could not do that if Garrett was not still there running old Cowboy plays


Garrett may still be running the show, but Romo does that for every game he announces.
I know Darnold was back  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/14/2019 10:29 am : link
But I won't hate on the Cowboys too much for this one. They are a very talented team. Losing to the Jets is unacceptable.
Dallas is over-hyped every year.  
since1925 : 10/14/2019 10:40 am : link
Then when their dreams come splashing down they look for someone to blame. Repeat.
Wait you mean beating  
arniefez : 10/14/2019 10:44 am : link
Miami, Washington and the Giants doesn't anoint you as the NFC champion? No one told Jerry.
When  
Ron Johnson : 10/14/2019 10:53 am : link
does Dak get his 40m per year done?
RE: I have always thought  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/14/2019 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14628002 Glover said:
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Garrett was a very average coach. If he had a good team, they won, when they didn't have a good team, they didn't win. He is not the kind of coach that is going to make a big difference in either motivation or preparation, and the Cowboys have been good a few times since he has been HC, but they could never get over the hump and make it to a Superbowl. He and Dak are very similar, good, but not great.

Tanney has been compared to Garrett often on bbi. Great we are using a roster spot to groom him. Much forward thinking.
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