as mentioned a few times, I have a friend in the industry (not associated with any 1 team) and every once in a while, he passes along some good info.
With that said, he told me to hang on to my hat regarding the Eli rumor mill and him being traded. These rumors are already picking up big time after Sunday's games as numerous teams are now rumored to be looking for a QB prior to the trade deadline. He expects Eli will be rumored or linked to 3-4 teams.
Which is why it's called a no trade clause. He cannot be traded without his consent.
I also believe being the fierce competitor he is, the fact that Brady, Brees, Big Ben, until he got hurt, and Rivers, still being major players on their franchises at similar and older ages, has Eli believing he can play several more years.
He gets the chance to play again, I think he takes it, and he should.
Trading for him before the deadline would have been impossible b/c he wouldn't fit under anyone's cap.
And let's just play along for a half a second and let's say that this rumor is true and Eli is willing to waive his no trade clause...what's he worth?
Trading for him before the deadline would have been impossible b/c he wouldn't fit under anyone's cap.
And let's just play along for a half a second and let's say that this rumor is true and Eli is willing to waive his no trade clause...what's he worth?
He can only be traded before the deadline.
I’m not sure what you mean here
NO- Bridgewater is 4-0. Brees back in 2 or 3 weeks
Jags - not a playoff team
Vikings - Cousins has looked good last two
Indy - over Brissett?
Pittsburgh - on 3rd string QB - maybe the most sense.
Nope. I really don't see it.
I think he's back this week.
Tennessee and Chicago make the most sense as he could play this year and if the team played well and Eli played well they could extend him for a year.
Believe nothing, speculate as you please.
They were favored over NO at home this week. Minshew seems to be looking more and more like a rookie. I don't expect Eli to go to Jax, but it would make some sense. So would Tennessee with Mariota getting benched and Tannehill looking terrible.
My guess here is that there will be an opportunity that includes 2 more years as well. One of the teams drafting QBs this year will (there will be 5 of them) will want to test out the KC model - once again :)
And what's Eli worth? Flacco netted a 4th rounder, so that might be the range, and if they can get a couple teams in the mix, maybe a 3rd.
But like JonC said, unless it's the right fit for Eli with a chance at a playoff run, I don't see him uprooting his life.
I also believe being the fierce competitor he is, the fact that Brady, Brees, Big Ben, until he got hurt, and Rivers, still being major players on their franchises at similar and older ages, has Eli believing he can play several more years.
He gets the chance to play again, I think he takes it, and he should.
Would love for Eli to get a chance to play for a winner! But I don't think he can sustain a high level of play unless everything around him is firing on all cylinders. And as for Eli being traded, I'll believe it when I see it.
Andy Dalton?
And what's Eli worth? Flacco netted a 4th rounder, so that might be the range, and if they can get a couple teams in the mix, maybe a 3rd.
But like JonC said, unless it's the right fit for Eli with a chance at a playoff run, I don't see him uprooting his life.
IMO, Jenkins is as good as gone. It's only a matter of time. We should be able to secure a 3rd Rounder at BEST, but more likely a 4th or 5th.
But
If,so am for doing what’s best for. The team. If he is willing to waive his no trade clause then get a pick for him. Possibly a 2nd
Jax almost has to go with Minshew. Same with Chicago and Mitch. Indy New Orleans and Minnesota are not options.
The Titans however, just benched Mariota for Tannehill. Talk about QB hell. Titans seems to be built around power OL, run game and defense. Pretty perfect for Eli at this stage. Probably worth a shot for them at 2-4.
Pittsburgh coming off a win and with Rudolph out might be a log shot play if they were confident Eli is hanging them up at the end of the season with Ben still there, otherwise awkward for many reasons.
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Jags - not a playoff team
They were favored over NO at home this week. Minshew seems to be looking more and more like a rookie. I don't expect Eli to go to Jax, but it would make some sense. So would Tennessee with Mariota getting benched and Tannehill looking terrible.
I think Eli will only go to a likely playoff team. Tenn and Jags are 2-4. Not really sure they can beat out Houston. It is early and they could turn it around - both with good Ds.
(Boy Winston and Mariota really stinking it up in contract years.)
He's not moving.
If he thinks he can still play at a high level, and wants to try, he can try next year.
Tennessee has the defense and OL to be decent and TB has a great core of WR's, yet both teams are .500 at best.
He's not moving.
If he thinks he can still play at a high level, and wants to try, he can try next year.
^This. If he wants to play after this year, he's better at his age not playing at all this season. That will give his body plenty of time to recuperate. Tennessee makes the most sense, but I'd be surprised if he waived his no trade clause to go there when they are 2-4. He'd also have to learn a new offense in the middle of the season, which is not a recipe for success.
I'd trade Jenkins for a #2 or #3, but don't see anyone doing that.
He's not moving.
If he thinks he can still play at a high level, and wants to try, he can try next year.
$$ is not the motivating factor for top of the line athletes. They have their money. Rings are what gets these guys juices flowing. I think if Eli got a chance with Pittsburgh, he'd be pretty tempted to go.
Actually they are 2-2 without Eli and in one of the games did something the Eli led Giants never did in 15 years, overcome an 18 pt deficit, missed chip shot FG or not.
Don’t make it seem like the Giants were unfair to Eli, or that there wasn’t good reason to make the change, most people , objectively would not agree with that assessment
So, it doesn't have to be a team that is looking only at this season.
I don't think the return will be all that high. Biggest benefit will be the cap relief.
IF Giants can get a 2 or 3 for Jenkins, race to get it done. That's a mighty big IF for a declining, expensive player. Again, a big benefit will be cap relief.
however, with all due respect I'm reasonably sure none of you has fucking clue what Eli would or won't do and whether or not he lives to "come home to play with his daughters" after practice and would or wouldn't accept a trade to another team for 3-4 months so he could continue to go home after practice to play with his daughters.
For many reasons a trade would be tricky - the $$$, the play book/system, the right situation where it makes sense, but none of you knows what Eli is thinking as far as I know.
NO- Bridgewater is 4-0. Brees back in 2 or 3 weeks
Jags - not a playoff team
Vikings - Cousins has looked good last two
Indy - over Brissett?
Pittsburgh - on 3rd string QB - maybe the most sense.
Nope. I really don't see it.
Tennessee is need of a QB.
Indy has no viable second option if Brisset goes down
NE- laugh if you want but all they have is Brady.
Chicago possibility
Pittsburgh is a definite possibility
Keep in mind some of these teams may be looking for a backup who could keep their season going if needed. QB's falling all over the place.
I feel fine. Educated guess is one thing, absolutes are very different and I'm not convinced with your educated guess.
I don't see athletes who have a chance to play sitting on the bench too often. If the Giants present a trade scenario to Eli, I feel like he'd take it. To other people's points I don't see any team considering Eli a long-term option, and I don't see him wanting to be a backup. If he has a chance to play meaningful games down the stretch I imagine he'd waive his NTC. Or he's simply realized he reached the end and plans to retire after the season.
But, I don't know. As my post indicated, none of us does.
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OBJ gets traded. I think there would be a lesser chance on Eli. But if he gets the chance with a real playoff team, he may just say WTF knowing he is done with the Giants. But where?
NO- Bridgewater is 4-0. Brees back in 2 or 3 weeks
Jags - not a playoff team
Vikings - Cousins has looked good last two
Indy - over Brissett?
Pittsburgh - on 3rd string QB - maybe the most sense.
Nope. I really don't see it.
Tennessee is need of a QB.
Indy has no viable second option if Brisset goes down
NE- laugh if you want but all they have is Brady.
Chicago possibility
Pittsburgh is a definite possibility
Keep in mind some of these teams may be looking for a backup who could keep their season going if needed. QB's falling all over the place.
To be clear I am not saying ELI would agree, just that there are teams out there that may be interested.
The Steelers make the most sense, they are in win now mode and they have a very good team minus the QB. Interestingly enough the Steelers have a bye week next week. Were they to acquire Eli in the next few days he would have nearly two full weeks to learn the playbook.
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Jags - not a playoff team
They were favored over NO at home this week. Minshew seems to be looking more and more like a rookie. I don't expect Eli to go to Jax, but it would make some sense. So would Tennessee with Mariota getting benched and Tannehill looking terrible.
I agree, for some strange reason I don't believe Jax thinks Minshew is the answer (possible because I don't so, maybe its a self fulfilling prophecy). I think
- Pittsburgh,
- Jax,
- Tennessee,
- Denver
could all be in play. If I was also Tampa Bay I'd be interested, because I think Winston stinks, but I don't think they are looking (yet).
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These guys never committed to him this year with dj signing at 6 of all things and didn't have the balls to say it. Or most likely didn't have a clue how non-competitive this team was. This team s 2-3 without Eli. (should be 1-4 minus a chip shot fg).
Actually they are 2-2 without Eli and in one of the games did something the Eli led Giants never did in 15 years, overcome an 18 pt deficit, missed chip shot FG or not.
Don’t make it seem like the Giants were unfair to Eli, or that there wasn’t good reason to make the change, most people , objectively would not agree with that assessment
Wrong. They started Geno Smith and lost to the Oakland freakin Raiders for their 3rd loss. So whatever 1-3 2-3 it is not a good winning pct. Really this just goes to show fans know nothing. How many went out and bought Jones Jerseys after one game and thought all of this teams problems were solved after one game vs. the bucs? many here too I'm sure.
Don't make it seem like this team wasn't fair to Eli? Damn straight I am! I am at the point where I have been rooting against this team for 2 weeks in a row now after being a fan since I was a little boy in the early 80s.
Really he's been way to nice of a guy with what has been going on around this place for like 5-6 years now. Reese and his BS. Getting benched by some total loser of a coach. Getting benched now in week 2 after not really throwing 4 int or whatever. This line has been in rebuild mode for like what 7 years and counting now? Gettlemen and his cluelessness "A QB challenge on draft night" or "Greenbay Rogers situation" Like WTF? What did Rogers sit for like 3 years? So you get a guy at 6 who no one had any kind of interest in or thought was a particularly good prospect. If they were serious you would have gotten Josh Allen and maybe picked someone up in free agency or whatever and made a run for it. If not say so and cut Eli and save the 5 mil or whatever.
Yes, you are right, I did not say he would be traded, just his name will and it appears already has come up more.
What he is hearing is that a few more teams are becoming desperate enough where they are now openly considering Eli in a trade, which they were not even a few weeks ago.
Whether a trade happens or not, I do not know nor does my friend as he does not have that info.
Bottom line, it seems like more teams are looking at him/inquiring about him, which will be interesting to say the least, going forward.
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Alrighty then, feel better? Of course we don't know, thus the educated guess preface.
I feel fine. Educated guess is one thing, absolutes are very different and I'm not convinced with your educated guess.
I don't see athletes who have a chance to play sitting on the bench too often. If the Giants present a trade scenario to Eli, I feel like he'd take it. To other people's points I don't see any team considering Eli a long-term option, and I don't see him wanting to be a backup. If he has a chance to play meaningful games down the stretch I imagine he'd waive his NTC. Or he's simply realized he reached the end and plans to retire after the season.
But, I don't know. As my post indicated, none of us does.
That's fine, next time I'll actually provide absolutes.