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superspynyg : 10/14/2019 8:48 am
How did you all do this weekend? Does MNF matter?

I had a unique week. I have Wilson, Chubb my work league and I faced Wilson and Chubb in my other league. I also have Connor and A Jones in the other league and I faced Conner and Jones in my work league.

So how is working? I have won my other league 116-110 (will be 5-0-1)and still have Jonses to play and I am winning my work league 101-79 and he still has Jo es to play. Come on DET run Defense!
Well... it started out great  
EricJ : 10/14/2019 8:54 am : link
In one of my leagues. I had the Patriots defense so whenever you get 20+ points there, you are in good shape.

Then, the wheels started to come off the bus a bit. I lost Dissly before he could make a catch. Then, I had Goff as my QB and the guy literally gave me ONE point.

So, I was tied with my opponent after the 4pm games. I had Conner and Kerryon Johnson and he had Melvin Gordon and Vance Johnson.

It all worked out for me as I am now ahead by 19 points and I still have Johnson to go.

In my other two leagues, I am ahead by about 50 points in each of them.
Won one league  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2019 9:03 am : link
easily the guy had Dorsett and Engram in his lineup - man I hate Thursday night football - though this time it worked for me.

the other league I faced a team with Diggs, McLaurin, and Mahomes. That's over 100 points with just those three.

I can't complain about injuries too much directly, but my two starting WR's are Michael Thomas and JuJu - both lost their QB's week 2 or 3.

Anyway, I drop to 4 - 2 in that league and move to 3 - 3 in the other.

won my DFS again though, and with my 4th win of the season I've paid for all my fantasy football leagues and a small profit.



Talent versus Opportunity and Situation  
EricJ : 10/14/2019 9:09 am : link
I brought this up last week in a discussion about OBJ. It is worth bringing up again since we are sitting here two days before waivers and with some trade activity likely.

Last week, I proposed to TRADE FOR OBJ in one of my leagues. It was a buy low opportunity in my eyes. I offered another WR and a RB because he had a very poor stable or RBs. Meanwhile, he also had Julio Jones and Theilen. So, he obviously ignored the RB position early.

Now, in my mind I am rolling the dice here because the WR I was offering was more consistent and was producing more points than OBJ.

His response was OBJ has much more talent than these other guys.

That is a fair response, but my contention is that fantasy football is only partially about talent and more about scheme, opportunity and then your opponents.

If he made that trade with me, he would have won his last two weeks. Instead, he lost them both because of his love affair with talent and a name. The players I was going to trade to him were in better situations and were going to deliver more points to him on a weekly basis.

In another deal which I mentioned here, there is a guy in my league who has both Mahommes and Deshaun Watson. My point was that Watson was likely going to ride your bench every week except for Mahommes' bye week. (yes, I know watson out performed him this week). However, this guy also has NO running backs.(Drake McCoy Singletary and Gallman). I was offering a starting RB and a QB for the bye week in exchange for Watson.

On the surface, it looks like a bad deal for the guy based upon talent level. However, Watson is delivering empty points to his team because he is on the bench. He also lost the last two weeks because he has a hole at the RB position. Meanwhile, every other team in the league has a solid starting QB and likely will not trade for a QB. By the time he realizes that he needs to move one of these QBs for a RB who can give him some points, his season will be over.

Am I crazy?
Yes you're crazy - I think - remind me of the players you offered  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2019 9:17 am : link
though (Stafford and someone?). I say you're crazy because Watson being on his bench also keeps him off other rosters with whom he is competing.

Additionally, if you have Mahomes you likely took him early eschewing a chance at a RB1 or WR1 (probably). So you are considering Mahomes a part of your roster building strategy as opposed to someone who picks a QB late like a Matt Ryan for example.

So, having Watson also protects his roster b/c losing Mahomes would be a major blow and Stafford as QB1 probably loses the season for him.

I guess it depends on the number of teams and size of the roster  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/14/2019 9:50 am : link
...but I agree having two QBs like that is a waste. He should trade one for a RB1. If after trading and something bad happens to the QB he keeps he can likely stream QBs the rest of the year.
I desperately need a QB in one league  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/14/2019 10:02 am : link
I picked up Mayfield to be QB1 and heís been a fantasy disaster. I picked up DJ a few weeks ago and until we get all our players back, I donít think I can roll him back out there. Itís only a 8 team league so it shouldnít be too hard!
RE: I desperately need a QB in one league  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/14/2019 10:06 am : link
In comment 14628094 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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I picked up Mayfield to be QB1 and heís been a fantasy disaster. I picked up DJ a few weeks ago and until we get all our players back, I donít think I can roll him back out there. Itís only a 8 team league so it shouldnít be too hard!


We play Arizona next week with SB coming back. If DJ isn't fantasy relevant next week you might as well drop him.
RE: Yes you're crazy - I think - remind me of the players you offered  
EricJ : 10/14/2019 10:07 am : link
In comment 14628017 pjcas18 said:
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though (Stafford and someone?).
1. Watson being on his bench also keeps him off other rosters with whom he is competing.


2. having Watson also protects his roster b/c losing Mahomes would be a major blow and Stafford as QB1 probably loses the season for him.


PJ,...
1. Well he already faced me in the league and likely wont again unless we are seeing each other in the playoffs. It does not look like he is making it either. Meanwhile, the RB he would get he could use every week.

2. I understand what you mean here but his season is likely over even if he doesn't lose Mahommes. Now, for WRs he has an injured Cooper, Cooks who has not been producing well and Marvin Jones.

I really do understand what you are saying but the guy needs bodies that can produce points NOW. After this week he is 2-4 in 12 team league where only the top 4 get in to the playoffs.

His roster is like a boat that is sinking. There is a 100lb box that has a collection of old valuable coins on board. You can either toss that box over and possible save the boat and yourself. OR, you can surely go down and die with a collection of valuable coins in your possession.

He needs to make a deal this week.

RE: RE: I desperately need a QB in one league  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/14/2019 10:07 am : link
In comment 14628100 Zeke's Alibi said:
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I picked up Mayfield to be QB1 and heís been a fantasy disaster. I picked up DJ a few weeks ago and until we get all our players back, I donít think I can roll him back out there. Itís only a 8 team league so it shouldnít be too hard!



We play Arizona next week with SB coming back. If DJ isn't fantasy relevant next week you might as well drop him.


I think playing him next week is a good idea. Getting Saquon and the rest of the offense back will really help him out.

I just realized Stafford is available. Going to try to grab him.
RE: RE: Yes you're crazy - I think - remind me of the players you offered  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2019 10:10 am : link
In comment 14628102 EricJ said:
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In comment 14628017 pjcas18 said:


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though (Stafford and someone?).
1. Watson being on his bench also keeps him off other rosters with whom he is competing.


2. having Watson also protects his roster b/c losing Mahomes would be a major blow and Stafford as QB1 probably loses the season for him.




PJ,...
1. Well he already faced me in the league and likely wont again unless we are seeing each other in the playoffs. It does not look like he is making it either. Meanwhile, the RB he would get he could use every week.

2. I understand what you mean here but his season is likely over even if he doesn't lose Mahommes. Now, for WRs he has an injured Cooper, Cooks who has not been producing well and Marvin Jones.

I really do understand what you are saying but the guy needs bodies that can produce points NOW. After this week he is 2-4 in 12 team league where only the top 4 get in to the playoffs.

His roster is like a boat that is sinking. There is a 100lb box that has a collection of old valuable coins on board. You can either toss that box over and possible save the boat and yourself. OR, you can surely go down and die with a collection of valuable coins in your possession.

He needs to make a deal this week.


Who was the other player you offered? His record definitely plays into it.

no sense holding onto Watson on a sinking ship.

even though he's played you, no sense making you stronger unless it makes him stronger too.
This is the second week in a row where my opponent was favored to win  
MadPlaid : 10/14/2019 10:17 am : link
and didn't. Hot damn!

Seems crazy, but my opponent's lineup this week was risky to begin with. He had Dak at QB, Gallup and Cooper at WR. He put all his eggs in one basket, and in this case, it bit him. When Dallas had a bad game, his team was screwed. Lucky me.

I got Tyreek Hill back this week, so that was nice. Hopkins is still not producing fantasy wise. Frustrating because I have guys on my bench who are. Although, there was no way I was starting Robbie Anderson ahead of him.

Now I am in a quandary. My kicker, J. Slye, is on bye this upcoming week, and I don't have anyone on my roster I am willing to cut loose. Its bananas. I have terrific depth on my bench. Any one of these guys will likely be scooped up if I waive them. A trade isn't likely, so I'm a little stuck. Would you cut loose Slye for a replacement, and hope to pick him back up? What do you think?
RE: This is the second week in a row where my opponent was favored to win  
allstarjim : 10/14/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14628120 MadPlaid said:
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and didn't. Hot damn!

Seems crazy, but my opponent's lineup this week was risky to begin with. He had Dak at QB, Gallup and Cooper at WR. He put all his eggs in one basket, and in this case, it bit him. When Dallas had a bad game, his team was screwed. Lucky me.

I got Tyreek Hill back this week, so that was nice. Hopkins is still not producing fantasy wise. Frustrating because I have guys on my bench who are. Although, there was no way I was starting Robbie Anderson ahead of him.

Now I am in a quandary. My kicker, J. Slye, is on bye this upcoming week, and I don't have anyone on my roster I am willing to cut loose. Its bananas. I have terrific depth on my bench. Any one of these guys will likely be scooped up if I waive them. A trade isn't likely, so I'm a little stuck. Would you cut loose Slye for a replacement, and hope to pick him back up? What do you think?


Can't answer without your roster.
RE: This is the second week in a row where my opponent was favored to win  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14628120 MadPlaid said:
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and didn't. Hot damn!

Seems crazy, but my opponent's lineup this week was risky to begin with. He had Dak at QB, Gallup and Cooper at WR. He put all his eggs in one basket, and in this case, it bit him. When Dallas had a bad game, his team was screwed. Lucky me.

I got Tyreek Hill back this week, so that was nice. Hopkins is still not producing fantasy wise. Frustrating because I have guys on my bench who are. Although, there was no way I was starting Robbie Anderson ahead of him.

Now I am in a quandary. My kicker, J. Slye, is on bye this upcoming week, and I don't have anyone on my roster I am willing to cut loose. Its bananas. I have terrific depth on my bench. Any one of these guys will likely be scooped up if I waive them. A trade isn't likely, so I'm a little stuck. Would you cut loose Slye for a replacement, and hope to pick him back up? What do you think?


Yes, absolutely, fantasy football kickers points are random with few exceptions. No one likely picks him up, so you can have a chance at re-adding him.
RE: RE: This is the second week in a row where my opponent was favored to win  
MadPlaid : 10/14/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14628654 allstarjim said:
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Can't answer without your roster.

My Team:
QBs: Stafford, Brisset
RBs: C. Carson, M. Mack, S. Michel, J. Howard
WRs: D. Hopkins, T. Hill, DJ Chark, T. Lockett, C. Sutton, R. Anderson
TE: E. Engram, G. Everett
K: J. Slye
TD: Chargers
IDP: Littleton

The league is Non-PPR where we start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR/TE, 1TE, 1Flex (RB,WR/TE), 1TD, 1K, 1IDP

Thank you
RE: RE: This is the second week in a row where my opponent was favored to win  
MadPlaid : 10/14/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14628665 pjcas18 said:
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Yes, absolutely, fantasy football kickers points are random with few exceptions. No one likely picks him up, so you can have a chance at re-adding him.

Yeah, that's what is persuading me to cut him, and picking up someone with a good matchup. However, he has been consistently scoring in double digits. Finding a kicker who is doing that is a very nice thing. It usually comes down to the team more than the kicker. They move the ball well, just not able to finish, so they kick. Slye is proving to be that kind of commodity. I am disinclined to risk losing him. Do you think I should let Everett go?
RE: RE: RE: This is the second week in a row where my opponent was favored to win  
allstarjim : 10/14/2019 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14628676 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 14628654 allstarjim said:


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Can't answer without your roster.


My Team:
QBs: Stafford, Brisset
RBs: C. Carson, M. Mack, S. Michel, J. Howard
WRs: D. Hopkins, T. Hill, DJ Chark, T. Lockett, C. Sutton, R. Anderson
TE: E. Engram, G. Everett
K: J. Slye
TD: Chargers
IDP: Littleton

The league is Non-PPR where we start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR/TE, 1TE, 1Flex (RB,WR/TE), 1TD, 1K, 1IDP

Thank you


Is this a 14-team league? What's on the wire at QB? I'd definitely look at dropping Brissett and adding a kicker. If not, then you have no choice but to drop Slye. You can try to re-add him after his bye, but there is a good likelihood he'll be claimed.
allstarjim  
MadPlaid : 10/14/2019 4:59 pm : link
it is a 12 team league. I'm inclined to keep Brisset to play matchups because I am not confident in Stafford being a must start QB.

Would you cut loose Everett? It looks as though Engram is coming back this week.
QB's available on the wire  
MadPlaid : 10/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
Dalton
Garoppolo
Cousins
allstarjim  
MadPlaid : 10/14/2019 5:01 pm : link
Thank you
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