I've said the game is too hard to officiate. But this isn't some hard judgment. TWICE he called hands to the face at critical junctures and the guy's hands are not on the facemask. That just can't happen.
Espn just threw in there at the end that Crosby’s wife had cancer.
How many shots of Staffords wife and what they went through an entire game? And as Crosby wins it by the end .... oh by the way if youre still here, he went through the same.
Makes you wonder
I actually like the Packers more than the Lions and I don't really Â
The refs really interjected themselves into the games not only in this one, but in others. And in the Giants-Pats game, even with replay review of a non-call on pass interference, they don't get it right. I think it was the Vikings-Eagles game I saw the ref call 5 penalties in a row, and they were not egregious.
The NFL needs to issue a memo to these refs this week because they are atrocious right now, and I usually defend them.
I recommend going back to watch the 1989-90 Giants Â
when the NFL was in its golden years. Few flags and fewer reviews. The game flowed from play to play, unlike now when two out of every three plays is followed by all the players milling around while the officials decide what penalties to call or whether a play should be reversed.
I feel ripped off spending hours watching a game to see the officials hand the game over on a bogus penalty. Pretty soon they'll be reviewing every penalty, although that would be quite pointless they reverse all penalties to the very limited extent that they are reversing PI calls.
I saw a handful of games this weekend and in the limited action I saw I counted at least 5 blown calls, 3 for PI and 2 for offensive holding.
I think they should just make all penalties reviewable. They'll probably do the same that they do with the BS PI reviews now (where they never overturn anything), but at least the option would be on the table for something really egregious.
Yet another nationally broadcast NFL game where the postgame conversation all over media is the officiating travesties.
What. A. Shock.
I don't even watch these games anymore. Years ago, I wouldn't miss a snap, no matter which teams were playing. What a pile of garbage this sport has become.
If you're going to make PI reviewable, why not other penalties as well? Why the fuck wouldn't you just also make illegal hands to the face or facemask penalties reviewable as well if you're making PI reviewable? I mean it's not like every single call or non-call would be challenged because teams still only have a limited number of challenges, right? And I still say that with under 2 minutes left challenges should come from New York. That way in a situation like this where we all clearly see there's no foul, the outcome of the game could be saved from being completely tainted as it was tonight.
A situation like the Saints/Rams NFCCG may never happen again with a non-PI call, but some other game of equally large or larger magnitude still is at risk of being totally ruined by an egregious call or non-call of a DIFFERENT penalty.
Falcons and Lions undeniably both lost on the back of very bad calls. Â
video replay and told that his performance hurts the VIEWING pleasure of ALL NFL games and asked for an explanation of his decision.
Then he should be fired right then and there and given a good swift kick in the ass.
F#$&*k NFL refereeing.
that PFT article is a succinct yet perfect description of Â
the situation. it's not just our viewing pleasure that's out the window, this will effect the gambling in which the NFL has a stake.
it's unbelievable that the NFL is letting this happen. I know I end up pissed off weekly during games in which I have no rooting interest. I know this is a solvable problem because i'm rarely aggravated by NCAAF officiating. not once yet this year.
RE: That ref has got to be reprimanded in front of the Â
video replay and told that his performance hurts the VIEWING pleasure of ALL NFL games and asked for an explanation of his decision.
Then he should be fired right then and there and given a good swift kick in the ass.
F#$&*k NFL refereeing.
I don’t understand why they aren’t instructed to only call what you see, not what you think you see. Are they? If you don’t literally see the hand on the face mask, it’s not a penalty. I’d you don’t literally see the helmet hit the helmet, it’s not helmet to helmet!!! Don’t assume a penalty happened be she’s it looks like it based on the player’s movement or reaction. That’s second hand evidence, and it should be clear visual evidence. Are there not enough penalties called that we can’t move to a standard/criteria of that distinct and definitive nature????
Yeah, but their solution is more instant replay? Right... that will fix the problem! (sarcasm off)
I don't think that necessarily has to be the case. If there were an official in a booth in the stadium constantly reviewing on-field action, that would mitigate the stoppages if he could buzz down to the officials (like the way a coach talks to players in their helmet). Think about all the times the officials huddle together to see how they can best screw up the call and how much quicker those conferences could be if there were a dedicated video guy buzzing in and saying "Hands never touched the facemask" or whatever.
College does not have this problem because they have embraced replay Â
The NFL also needs to fox the grading system. They need to weigh phantom calls much more negatively. This would drastically reduce the number of calls a game.
Yeah, but their solution is more instant replay? Right... that will fix the problem! (sarcasm off)
I don't think that necessarily has to be the case. If there were an official in a booth in the stadium constantly reviewing on-field action, that would mitigate the stoppages if he could buzz down to the officials (like the way a coach talks to players in their helmet). Think about all the times the officials huddle together to see how they can best screw up the call and how much quicker those conferences could be if there were a dedicated video guy buzzing in and saying "Hands never touched the facemask" or whatever.
NCAA has a video review ref at the game that can stop play for a review..so there is precedent and it is quick and easy. But the Officials will not allow it.
Eric in college the replay system is much tighter, takes about half Â
at it on Youtube... Man, these refs need to be replaced. That was 2 disgraceful calls. The LT threw his head back on purpose to make it look like Flowers had his hands on the Neck/Facemask. Booger was right to go off...
Right now the refs are the most important people on the field, what they do has more to do with who wins than what any player does.
These calls are pathetic. The NFL needs to take challenges out and just have a video replay guy who change wrong calls. Those were not penalties.
Detroit played very well. They are going the right direction...
How do we voice dissatisfaction to the nfl headquarters? They need to be bombarded with complaints not from the fans of teams being effected.
The LT was flopping, they were basing the calls on him pretending his head was getting shoved back. Punk shit
Uh, Coach Rodgers runs that team.
Don't be fooled otherwise...
How many shots of Staffords wife and what they went through an entire game? And as Crosby wins it by the end .... oh by the way if youre still here, he went through the same.
Makes you wonder
Unfortunately that was the first thing I was thinking as well. These young coaches just get it.
The NFL needs to issue a memo to these refs this week because they are atrocious right now, and I usually defend them.
I feel ripped off spending hours watching a game to see the officials hand the game over on a bogus penalty. Pretty soon they'll be reviewing every penalty, although that would be quite pointless they reverse all penalties to the very limited extent that they are reversing PI calls.
I think they should just make all penalties reviewable. They'll probably do the same that they do with the BS PI reviews now (where they never overturn anything), but at least the option would be on the table for something really egregious.
Guess what? Too f-cking bad. Then got people who are younger, more physically fit, better trained, etc to actually call a better game.
Give it a fucking break already...for fuck's sake.
The NFL would run out of WRs in about 2 weeks...
The last thing the NFL needs is this becoming like Soccer. Player faking a penalty should get penalized himself at the very least
What. A. Shock.
I don't even watch these games anymore. Years ago, I wouldn't miss a snap, no matter which teams were playing. What a pile of garbage this sport has become.
A situation like the Saints/Rams NFCCG may never happen again with a non-PI call, but some other game of equally large or larger magnitude still is at risk of being totally ruined by an egregious call or non-call of a DIFFERENT penalty.
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Twice Detroit got fucked by that LT flopping
These calls are pathetic. The NFL needs to take challenges out and just have a video replay guy who change wrong calls. Those were not penalties.
PFT has a pretty good take on it all.
Pair of pantom calls on Trey Flowers - ( New Window )
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Twice Detroit got fucked by that LT flopping
These calls are pathetic. The NFL needs to take challenges out and just have a video replay guy who change wrong calls. Those were not penalties.
PFT has a pretty good take on it all. Pair of pantom calls on Trey Flowers - ( New Window )
Yeah, but their solution is more instant replay? Right... that will fix the problem! (sarcasm off)
Then he should be fired right then and there and given a good swift kick in the ass.
F#$&*k NFL refereeing.
it's unbelievable that the NFL is letting this happen. I know I end up pissed off weekly during games in which I have no rooting interest. I know this is a solvable problem because i'm rarely aggravated by NCAAF officiating. not once yet this year.
Then he should be fired right then and there and given a good swift kick in the ass.
F#$&*k NFL refereeing.
I don’t understand why they aren’t instructed to only call what you see, not what you think you see. Are they? If you don’t literally see the hand on the face mask, it’s not a penalty. I’d you don’t literally see the helmet hit the helmet, it’s not helmet to helmet!!! Don’t assume a penalty happened be she’s it looks like it based on the player’s movement or reaction. That’s second hand evidence, and it should be clear visual evidence. Are there not enough penalties called that we can’t move to a standard/criteria of that distinct and definitive nature????
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Yeah, but their solution is more instant replay? Right... that will fix the problem! (sarcasm off)
I don't think that necessarily has to be the case. If there were an official in a booth in the stadium constantly reviewing on-field action, that would mitigate the stoppages if he could buzz down to the officials (like the way a coach talks to players in their helmet). Think about all the times the officials huddle together to see how they can best screw up the call and how much quicker those conferences could be if there were a dedicated video guy buzzing in and saying "Hands never touched the facemask" or whatever.
The NFL also needs to fox the grading system. They need to weigh phantom calls much more negatively. This would drastically reduce the number of calls a game.
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Yeah, but their solution is more instant replay? Right... that will fix the problem! (sarcasm off)
I don't think that necessarily has to be the case. If there were an official in a booth in the stadium constantly reviewing on-field action, that would mitigate the stoppages if he could buzz down to the officials (like the way a coach talks to players in their helmet). Think about all the times the officials huddle together to see how they can best screw up the call and how much quicker those conferences could be if there were a dedicated video guy buzzing in and saying "Hands never touched the facemask" or whatever.
NCAA has a video review ref at the game that can stop play for a review..so there is precedent and it is quick and easy. But the Officials will not allow it.