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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/14/2019 10:06 pm
"I don't want to get into a ... feud with Daryl but I believe he wasn't educated about the situation at hand and he spoke," James said Monday, ahead of the Lakers preseason game against the Golden State Warriors. "So many people could have been harmed, not only financially, but physically, emotionally, spiritually. Just be careful what we tweet and we say and we do, even though, yes, we do have freedom of speech. But there can be a lot of negative that comes with that too."

Shorter LBJ: 'I'm more concerned with $ than human rights & freedom.'

What a weak ass comment from LBJ. Really disappointed with him.
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So...  
Danny Kanell : 10/14/2019 10:17 pm : link
He’s shutting up and dribbling in this particular case?

Hypocrite like so many others.
So  
Eli owns all : 10/14/2019 10:21 pm : link
If you were/are Pro Kaepernick how are you not pro Morey?
Pretty sure Morey  
terz22 : 10/14/2019 10:21 pm : link
Is a MIT grad so I'd say hes no idiot. Is their a bigger fraud in sports than Lebron?
Absolutely brutal 2 weeks for the NBA..  
Sean : 10/14/2019 10:22 pm : link
the hypocrisy is comical.
If a player said what morey did  
nygiants16 : 10/14/2019 10:24 pm : link
Is lebron telling him to keep it in house?

For a guy who so pro equal rights and freedom speech, he sure is a hypocrite.

Lebron already backpedaling  
nygiants16 : 10/14/2019 10:28 pm : link
saying he meant more was misinformed on the situation of when he said it with the nba in china
Communists buy sneakers too  
arniefez : 10/14/2019 10:54 pm : link
Jordan even did greed better than LeBron..
Yeah but at least Jordan is consistent. The NBA and its players,  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/14/2019 10:58 pm : link
and many other companies, have adopted this social conscious for marketing points. That is easy to do when in the grand scheme of things stuff is pretty good here. Now when money is going up against real atrocities these guys are mum.
He really  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/14/2019 10:58 pm : link
Looks like a horses ass
That's easily the worst quote yet of anyone associated with the NBA  
moespree : 10/14/2019 11:08 pm : link
Not really surprised though.
RE: He really  
Tesla : 10/14/2019 11:09 pm : link
In comment 14628991 Ned In Atlanta said:
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Looks like a horses ass


Yeah. And that comment he made on Morey makes him look bad too.
I don't get it  
lightemup : 10/14/2019 11:11 pm : link
Lebron wasn't saying this in support of China's policies. He was saying this in support of the players in the NBA who were in china when Morey made these comments. Lebron thought of the worst case scenario that could happen to the players in China and that Morey should have waited until the players were back in America before he tweeted anything out. That's my take on his comments
Totally hypocritical  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/14/2019 11:12 pm : link
But is anyone really surprised. As if I needed any more reasons to hope the Lakers lose every game.

Maybe when he can’t play anymore and he goes to China they can sell his body parts like they do to other people they find useless. Just not his brain as he doesn’t have one
RE: I don't get it  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/14/2019 11:21 pm : link
In comment 14628997 lightemup said:
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Lebron wasn't saying this in support of China's policies. He was saying this in support of the players in the NBA who were in china when Morey made these comments. Lebron thought of the worst case scenario that could happen to the players in China and that Morey should have waited until the players were back in America before he tweeted anything out. That's my take on his comments


That was his statement doing damage control, but you wouldn't be using the words misinformed unless you took issue with what he said.
He may only be questioning the timing of Morey’s  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/14/2019 11:22 pm : link
tweet and its effect on the NBA players, he did say he will continue to go to China because it’s financially profitable for him. But to infer that Morey wasn’t educated on the matter only demonstrates that he himself is not one not educated.

It’s good to know that these social justice warriors have selective interests in issues that suit their agenda. Who’d have guessed?
Dear LeBron...  
bw in dc : 10/14/2019 11:30 pm : link
I appreciate your support.

Regards,
Xi Jinping

P.S. When you come back over we can drive around that tank we used at Tiananmen Square to crush the 1989 Democracy Movement
LBJ  
uconngiant : 10/14/2019 11:41 pm : link
needs to stick to basketball as he knows nothing about what the people in Taiwan are going through
His tweets  
halfback20 : 10/15/2019 12:06 am : link
Clarifying everything arent any better. Poor millionaires had a difficult week in China...
To be fair  
Leg of Theismann : 10/15/2019 12:13 am : link
Morey himself walked back the tweet and said the following:

“ I was merely voicing one thought, based on one interpretation, of one complicated event. I have had a lot of opportunity since that tweet to hear and consider other perspectives.”

Basically saying he didn’t know enough about the situation to make any remarks.

Whether he’s being sincere/candid about that I really have no idea, but it does sound like Lebron is basically just toeing the party line and saying “he spoke without being fully informed and therefore his words shouldn’t be taken so seriously” etc.

I really see no reason for anyone to defend Daryl Morey when he himself has been trying to walk back/take back his comments. Why exert so much energy defending a guys right to say something that he himself is publicly denouncing and walking back? If he were standing by his comments that would be one thing but he himself is literally saying “ignore what I said” so I don’t see why anyone cares to stick up for the guy.

And some might say  
Leg of Theismann : 10/15/2019 12:19 am : link
“Well he’s being forced to walk back his comments”... no he isn’t. Why? Because he has financial interests at stake? It’s not like his life is in jeopardy and he deleted the tweet at gun point. He’s walking back the comments because he’s afraid of how it might hurt his bank account and to me that tells me all I need to know about how much he really cares about and believes in his original tweet. If he walked it back of his own free will and volition when he just as well could have left it up then take him at his word for that. I’m not going to sit here and assume that he really truly believed in what his original tweet said when he’s freely saying “ignore what I said actually” , that’s a waste of time as far as I’m concerned. Just my 2 cents
RE: So  
Leg of Theismann : 10/15/2019 12:26 am : link
In comment 14628968 Eli owns all said:
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If you were/are Pro Kaepernick how are you not pro Morey?


Kaepernick stuck to his guns and didn’t walk back or back down from anything he said. Morey immediately did the exact opposite as soon as he realized there was any possibility of financial loss that could result from his statement. No need to get into debating the actual politics of either situation, I’m just saying that is a fundamental difference between the 2 people.
RE: To be fair  
bw in dc : 10/15/2019 12:28 am : link
In comment 14629051 Leg of Theismann said:
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Morey himself walked back the tweet and said the following:

“ I was merely voicing one thought, based on one interpretation, of one complicated event. I have had a lot of opportunity since that tweet to hear and consider other perspectives.”

Basically saying he didn’t know enough about the situation to make any remarks.



Sure. Why would a guy with a CS degree from Northwestern and an MBA from MIT be totally informed.

Morey's cleanup effort wasn't Morey on his own. It was the Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta telling Morey what to write.

At the end of the day, there is too much cash at stake for Fertitta and his fellow NBA owners to have GM with degrees from Northwestern and MIT make such "uninformed" statements...
RE: RE: I don't get it  
lightemup : 10/15/2019 12:30 am : link
In comment 14629008 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14628997 lightemup said:


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Lebron wasn't saying this in support of China's policies. He was saying this in support of the players in the NBA who were in china when Morey made these comments. Lebron thought of the worst case scenario that could happen to the players in China and that Morey should have waited until the players were back in America before he tweeted anything out. That's my take on his comments



That was his statement doing damage control, but you wouldn't be using the words misinformed unless you took issue with what he said.


Upon further review...F Lebron indeed. I don't really use social media much, so I didn't know this was the damage control of a previous statement. Looks weak
Xi warned yesterday  
moespree : 10/15/2019 1:00 am : link
That any effort to split China will end with "bodies smashed and bones ground to powder".

You can't be on the side of people like this. And if you're not directly on their side you can't portray an image of being on their side either.

Money or not you either have a set of beliefs in your life or you don't.
RE: Xi warned yesterday  
Nine-Tails : 10/15/2019 1:30 am : link
In comment 14629065 moespree said:
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That any effort to split China will end with "bodies smashed and bones ground to powder".

You can't be on the side of people like this. And if you're not directly on their side you can't portray an image of being on their side either.

Money or not you either have a set of beliefs in your life or you don't.


Well said. I don't like going into politics, but seeing guys like Kerr, Curry, and Lebron puff their chests on several issues, but now go quiet with their business involved shows a lot.
dude has  
Mr. Nickels : 10/15/2019 2:16 am : link
a high school education.

Like most celebrities...very very stupid
Kerr and Pop  
giants_10_88 : 10/15/2019 5:53 am : link
are both punks. Ranting about Orange Man bad all the time but can't stick up to the actual facists. Just a bunch of fake woke virtue signaling assholes.
RE: RE: So  
charlito : 10/15/2019 6:32 am : link
In comment 14629058 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14628968 Eli owns all said:


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If you were/are Pro Kaepernick how are you not pro Morey?



Kaepernick stuck to his guns and didn’t walk back or back down from anything he said. Morey immediately did the exact opposite as soon as he realized there was any possibility of financial loss that could result from his statement. No need to get into debating the actual politics of either situation, I’m just saying that is a fundamental difference between the 2 people.


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Can't really blame him  
RobCrossRiver56 : 10/15/2019 7:22 am : link
Only H.S. education, never went to collage. He obviously knows where is bread is buttered.
Phil Knight has  
section125 : 10/15/2019 7:37 am : link
many mouths....

It doesn't happen often, but Jason Whitlock is probably somewhat correct:

NBA $8 bill industry - Nike $30+ bill company and huge ties in China and many contracts with NBA
When it comes to which bathroom a citizen of Hong Kong wants to go in,  
GiantsUA : 10/15/2019 7:45 am : link
the NBA will go to the mat, democracy, well let's not make our business partners uncomfortable.

Say what you want about Kap but at least he had conviction  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/15/2019 7:46 am : link
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being disappointed in LeBrons recent comments  
LG in NYC : 10/15/2019 7:47 am : link
suggests that at one point he was worth listening to?
Kaepernick does have the courage of his convictions.  
GiantsUA : 10/15/2019 8:02 am : link
Many of us do not.
FWIW, I am totally  
section125 : 10/15/2019 8:02 am : link
amazed Tiananmen Square II hasn't happened yet. All the US Flags showing up in Hong Kong has to seriously irk Xi. I think the minute it shows up in another Chinese city then end will be swift and brutal.
The NBA boycotts  
rocco8112 : 10/15/2019 8:12 am : link
venues in certain states over policies here in the US. Everyone has their price though and James, the NBA and other elites of all stripes will check their "values" at the door to have access to the massive market of China. Gotta sell those shoes, jerseys, and tickets. Principles? Please. Those only matter when they can stand up to the real enemy, the oppressive, racist, capitalist United States of America.

The hypocrisy is thick and nauesating. The Hong Kong rebels wave old glory and sing the national anthem as if anyone in this country gives a rat's for their troubles or the principal of individual liberty which the US is supposedly built on. We don't teach this in school or with our popular media anymore, quite the opposite.

Perhaps at the next NBA event in China the league can celebrate their relationship with China by playing a video of Hong Kong dissidents being brutalized, or Uyghur muslims being sterilized, re-educated and beaten to ensure no dissident thoughts. I thought diversity was a strength and the holy grail of social progress for which to strive for? Quick, tell Lebron to tweet the CCP to remind them, they seem to want a monolithic culture which brooks no dissent.

Way to bend the knee NBA. Dont worry, I doubt Lebron will lose any sleep in his mansion safe in a gated community.

What a time.
RE: Kerr and Pop  
UConn4523 : 10/15/2019 8:15 am : link
In comment 14629081 giants_10_88 said:
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are both punks. Ranting about Orange Man bad all the time but can't stick up to the actual facists. Just a bunch of fake woke virtue signaling assholes.


Seems to me that you are confusing what Kerr and Popovich actually do. They are asked questions and they answer them. Sorry it doesn’t fit your views but they are simply replying to questions. They aren’t actively campaigning or whatever you are trying to make it seem like. And what do you want them to do about China?

People hate trump, try growing thicker skin and don’t let it bother you.
NBA  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/15/2019 8:17 am : link
total hypocrites. They get applauded for this yet when the almighty dollar speaks they show their true character.

When are the boycott's starting to stop showing the games on TV here in the states?
Kapp  
hitdog42 : 10/15/2019 8:20 am : link
is paid a lot of money by nike who runs inhumane mills in china to produce product... so yes to certain things he has conviction but his wallet is filled elsewhere.

just to be clear.
RE: RE: Kerr and Pop  
section125 : 10/15/2019 8:24 am : link
In comment 14629124 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14629081 giants_10_88 said:


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are both punks. Ranting about Orange Man bad all the time but can't stick up to the actual facists. Just a bunch of fake woke virtue signaling assholes.



Seems to me that you are confusing what Kerr and Popovich actually do. They are asked questions and they answer them. Sorry it doesn’t fit your views but they are simply replying to questions. They aren’t actively campaigning or whatever you are trying to make it seem like. And what do you want them to do about China?

People hate trump, try growing thicker skin and don’t let it bother you.


Both of you need to abide by the site rules.
Kaepernick  
TyreeHelmet : 10/15/2019 8:25 am : link
Did say he would stop kneeling when he was looking for another team. He also took the payout from the NFL that silenced him to a degree. I would go easy on the conviction praise.

But this is an awful look for Lebron and the NBA. The bathroom issue for the Charlotte all star game is so laughable now.
in before the close.  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/15/2019 8:33 am : link
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For a organization, the NBA,  
joeinpa : 10/15/2019 8:34 am : link
who has been on the PC side of every political domestic issue, their stance on the China human rights issue, revealed them to be hypocritical, phony, show me the money billionaires, whose opinions, at least for me on social injustice going forward, will have no value

Disgraceful.
Morey was forced to walk his comment back  
Greg from LI : 10/15/2019 8:35 am : link
Because he was most likely threatened with losing his job, and possibly with being blackballed from ever working in the NBA again. That's a credible threat. I don't blame Morey for not wanting to sacrifice his entire career.

Lebron knows goddamned well that his career would be in no danger at all, yet he kowtows. Pathetic.
everyone has morals  
pjcas18 : 10/15/2019 8:35 am : link
until it hurts their wallet, then some people don't. It's easy to be judgmental.

the timing of Lebron's comments come just as the NBA starts planning for a lower salary cap.

An astonishing 10% of the NBA revenue comes from China, that is an amazing number i had no idea about until this shit storm. And it was their largest growing market, expected to as much as double in the short-term. Now, companies are shifting their money elsewhere - or I imagine even being forced to shift their money elsewhere.

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Keith Smith
@KeithSmithNBA
Sources told Yahoo Sports that some NBA teams are doing scenario planning for the $116M salary cap for 2020-21 to drop by as much as 15% due to situation between NBA and China. Story is up now @YahooSportsNBA
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RE: Morey was forced to walk his comment back  
TyreeHelmet : 10/15/2019 8:43 am : link
In comment 14629146 Greg from LI said:
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Because he was most likely threatened with losing his job, and possibly with being blackballed from ever working in the NBA again. That's a credible threat. I don't blame Morey for not wanting to sacrifice his entire career.

Lebron knows goddamned well that his career would be in no danger at all, yet he kowtows. Pathetic.


Well said. Moreys job and livelihood was on the line. He had no choice.
RE: And some might say  
gmenatlarge : 10/15/2019 8:43 am : link
In comment 14629056 Leg of Theismann said:
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“Well he’s being forced to walk back his comments”... no he isn’t. Why? Because he has financial interests at stake? It’s not like his life is in jeopardy and he deleted the tweet at gun point. He’s walking back the comments because he’s afraid of how it might hurt his bank account and to me that tells me all I need to know about how much he really cares about and believes in his original tweet. If he walked it back of his own free will and volition when he just as well could have left it up then take him at his word for that. I’m not going to sit here and assume that he really truly believed in what his original tweet said when he’s freely saying “ignore what I said actually” , that’s a waste of time as far as I’m concerned. Just my 2 cents


+1 It's all about the Benjamins...
RE: And some might say  
joeinpa : 10/15/2019 8:45 am : link
In comment 14629056 Leg of Theismann said:
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“Well he’s being forced to walk back his comments”... no he isn’t. Why? Because he has financial interests at stake? It’s not like his life is in jeopardy and he deleted the tweet at gun point. He’s walking back the comments because he’s afraid of how it might hurt his bank account and to me that tells me all I need to know about how much he really cares about and believes in his original tweet. If he walked it back of his own free will and volition when he just as well could have left it up then take him at his word for that. I’m not going to sit here and assume that he really truly believed in what his original tweet said when he’s freely saying “ignore what I said actually” , that’s a waste of time as far as I’m concerned. Just my 2 cents


Guy works his entire life to get where he is, I d cut him some slack here. If you hold yourself to such a high standard, as to throw away a career because of speaking out without the understanding the consequences of some similar circumstance, good for you, I doubt you re the norm though.

We all have principals for which we are willing to lose much to defend. But in this case I feel you are holding Morey to an unreasonable standard.

Refusing to double down on that tweet is not something he should throw away his career for, IMO
RE: RE: RE: Kerr and Pop  
UConn4523 : 10/15/2019 8:50 am : link
In comment 14629133 section125 said:
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In comment 14629124 UConn4523 said:


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In comment 14629081 giants_10_88 said:


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are both punks. Ranting about Orange Man bad all the time but can't stick up to the actual facists. Just a bunch of fake woke virtue signaling assholes.



Seems to me that you are confusing what Kerr and Popovich actually do. They are asked questions and they answer them. Sorry it doesn’t fit your views but they are simply replying to questions. They aren’t actively campaigning or whatever you are trying to make it seem like. And what do you want them to do about China?

People hate trump, try growing thicker skin and don’t let it bother you.



Both of you need to abide by the site rules.


I never bring up politics and didn’t here. Simply letting another poster know that Kerr and Pop answering questions shouldn’t hurt his feelings. Also, this entire thread is political, if you want to go down that route.
no, I don't think this is political, really  
Greg from LI : 10/15/2019 8:52 am : link
A lot of people from both sides of the political spectrum have been all over the NBA for their craven cowardice.
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