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superspynyg : 10/15/2019 8:02 am
Boone to use all relievers in game 4? I read that somewhere and want to see if itís true. Who would be the opener? Happ? CC?

How is Stantonís quad injury? Will play? If not can he be replaced on the roster already? Iíd rather have another 1B than a hurt OF.

Thoughts?


I will try to find the article
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RE: I have a sinking feeling that this team  
section125 : 10/15/2019 9:40 am : link
In comment 14629221 rnargi said:
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Is going to lament their inability to scratch out 1 run between the 7th and 10th innings on Sunday for a very long time.


Well yeah, up 2-0 vs 1-1. But if you did not know how the results occurred, would you not have been super happy to have the Yanks leave Houston 1-1 before the series started? Was that not the goal? Yes our pessimistic side will always lament what could have been. 2-0 would have been gravy.
Don't be a pussy  
Greg from LI : 10/15/2019 9:43 am : link
Leave the defeatist talk for the sorryass Giants.
Hicks is gonna start  
Dankbeerman : 10/15/2019 10:06 am : link
thats why hes on the roster. Boone wants an outfield of Gardy Hicks Judge at the stadium. He is not playing EE over Urshella right now either as he isnt hitting enough to warrant it.

the questuon is Stanton vs Edwin at DH. If stanton can go he plays
RE: RE: If it rains tomorrow,  
Dankbeerman : 10/15/2019 10:15 am : link
In comment 14629169 Ira said:
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why not go with Tanaka or Paxton and skip the BP?



If there's a rainout tomorrow, I think it'll Tanaka vs Greinke on Thursday. Both pitchers will have four days rest, so why would either team not use them.


If it rains tommorow you lose the off day. will have 4 games in a row with only 3 starters. Sevy isnt gonna pitch on short rest so he cant go before game 7. Would also need your bullpen fresh enough for the other 3 games. Almost have to go to Happ or Cc with an opener somwwhere in 4-6. would think it has tk be at home and depends on if the win tonight.

RE: Hicks is gonna start  
section125 : 10/15/2019 10:15 am : link
In comment 14629271 Dankbeerman said:
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thats why hes on the roster. Boone wants an outfield of Gardy Hicks Judge at the stadium. He is not playing EE over Urshella right now either as he isnt hitting enough to warrant it.

the question is Stanton vs Edwin at DH. If stanton can go he plays


You may be right on the defensive alignment, but it all comes down to analytics - percentages of advantage. Gardy-Hicks-Judge is by far their best defense OF and Urshela-Didi-Torres-DJLM is the best IF alignment. It does come down to EE vs GS at DH.
I'm still believing that Gary is going to start hitting. He had a RC single game one. He had great ABs game 2. I think his confidence is now back. He just looks ready to deliver.
RE: I'm just glad today's game is 4 for a change  
Jim in Tampa : 10/15/2019 10:18 am : link
In comment 14629201 mfsd said:
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so I'll get to sleep at a reasonable hour. I'm sure I wasn't the only one dragging yesterday

Much prefer the early start as well.

Fans shouldn't have to stay up until 1 AM to watch their team play a game.
RE: RE: I'm just glad today's game is 4 for a change  
Jints in Carolina : 10/15/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14629287 Jim in Tampa said:
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so I'll get to sleep at a reasonable hour. I'm sure I wasn't the only one dragging yesterday


Much prefer the early start as well.

Fans shouldn't have to stay up until 1 AM to watch their team play a game.


color me annoyed...i won't be able to watch until about 6..small price to pay but whatever. I'll just have to listen in the car.
RE: RE: RE: I'm just glad today's game is 4 for a change  
section125 : 10/15/2019 10:28 am : link
In comment 14629301 Jints in Carolina said:
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so I'll get to sleep at a reasonable hour. I'm sure I wasn't the only one dragging yesterday


Much prefer the early start as well.

Fans shouldn't have to stay up until 1 AM to watch their team play a game.



color me annoyed...i won't be able to watch until about 6..small price to pay but whatever. I'll just have to listen in the car.


Loved the 6:35 starts....but the league and TV contracts dictate start times.
RE: Don't be a pussy  
rnargi : 10/15/2019 10:31 am : link
In comment 14629239 Greg from LI said:
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Leave the defeatist talk for the sorryass Giants.


Not being a pussy, and yes leaving 1-1 was indeed the goal. I'm rooting as hard as the rest of you. Let's go, Yanks!
RE: .  
Eman11 : 10/15/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14629132 arcarsenal said:
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I agree with section - I think it'd be Chad Green to open Game 4. I also think Stanton will be in the lineup today.

Tomorrow kind of looks like a definite rainout - I'd think that benefits us since we're clearly going to need our leverage relievers today. An off day tomorrow would help give us more ammo for Game 4 out of the pen.


If tomorrow gets rained out I can see Boone going back to Masa for game four on Thursday or even Pax since he didn't throw much Sunday night.

Either way a rainout helps because we could potentially throw Sevy, Masa and Paxton in games 3,4,and 5.
RE: Don't be a pussy  
Eman11 : 10/15/2019 11:09 am : link
In comment 14629239 Greg from LI said:
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Leave the defeatist talk for the sorryass Giants.


Funny how Bleedblue isn't here now but you can be damn sure at the first sign of something not going our way tonight, he'll be chiming in.
RE: RE: Don't be a pussy  
BleedBlue : 10/15/2019 11:35 am : link
In comment 14629369 Eman11 said:
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Leave the defeatist talk for the sorryass Giants.



Funny how Bleedblue isn't here now but you can be damn sure at the first sign of something not going our way tonight, he'll be chiming in.



I'm right here dude.

I don't know why you guys think about me so much. I'm flattered really.

Truth is....I just speak facts. I am sorry if you don't like hearing the fact that if we can't get much from our starters we won't win.
I am a realist. I will be rooting as hard as all of you and I have confidence in the lineup and pen, but the SP leaves alot to be desired. I think tonight is going to be insanely tough game to win(part of reason I was so pissed he lost game 2).
I am not going to blow the team no matter how they play. It's so funny because I was first to say Didi, sanchez, EE look lost at plate and like 5 of you jumped on me calling me names and shit like 5 year olds. Then about 10+ people said it after me....and NOBODY gave them shit. I've coached baseball for 15+ years. It's obviously those 3 aren't having good ABs and they need to change approach. I was encouraged by sanchezs last AB though as it seemed he was seeing the ball better.

Again...it's not whining, it's calling it like I see it, sorry if it hurts your feelings but I don't wear Rose colored glasses. The Yanks starting pitching will prob be the reason they don't win if they lose. That being said if that's what happens i will root hard as hell and hope they get Cole in off-season.

All that aside...go Yankees!
RE: Still mad  
Dave in PA : 10/15/2019 11:37 am : link
In comment 14629119 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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that they weren't able to capitalize and steal game 2.

Today feels like a must-win game against a pitcher who is 18-0 since May and has given up more than 2 runs in a game just once in that time frame. Hopefully Severino is at the top of his game.
I think today is the only game in this entire series that should NOT be viewed as must win. Cole is dominant. Sure the Yankees can find a way to win this game, but the expectation should be an afternoon of 10+ Kís and a ton of frustration. Games 4 and 5 are absolutely must win. Then we cycle back to Paxton, who needs to have a career defining moment back in Houston.
RE: If it rains tomorrow,  
JeffAces28 : 10/15/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14629140 section125 said:
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why not go with Tanaka or Paxton and skip the BP?


If game is PPD tomorrow they will most likely go with Tanaka on full rest
RE: RE: If it rains tomorrow,  
BleedBlue : 10/15/2019 11:42 am : link
In comment 14629418 JeffAces28 said:
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why not go with Tanaka or Paxton and skip the BP?



If game is PPD tomorrow they will most likely go with Tanaka on full rest



They 100% should. If we lose today game 4 vs grienke is a must win imo
4pm start  
JeffAces28 : 10/15/2019 11:44 am : link
kind of stinks if you work until 5pm.
No Stanton, Hicks starts in center, Gardy in left, Edwin DH.  
bceagle05 : 10/15/2019 12:25 pm : link
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Stanton still out  
Mad Mike : 10/15/2019 12:25 pm : link
Hicks in CF, EE at DH.
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RE: RE: RE: Don't be a pussy  
Eman11 : 10/15/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14629411 BleedBlue said:
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Leave the defeatist talk for the sorryass Giants.



Funny how Bleedblue isn't here now but you can be damn sure at the first sign of something not going our way tonight, he'll be chiming in.




I'm right here dude.

I don't know why you guys think about me so much. I'm flattered really.

Truth is....I just speak facts. I am sorry if you don't like hearing the fact that if we can't get much from our starters we won't win.
I am a realist. I will be rooting as hard as all of you and I have confidence in the lineup and pen, but the SP leaves alot to be desired. I think tonight is going to be insanely tough game to win(part of reason I was so pissed he lost game 2).
I am not going to blow the team no matter how they play. It's so funny because I was first to say Didi, sanchez, EE look lost at plate and like 5 of you jumped on me calling me names and shit like 5 year olds. Then about 10+ people said it after me....and NOBODY gave them shit. I've coached baseball for 15+ years. It's obviously those 3 aren't having good ABs and they need to change approach. I was encouraged by sanchezs last AB though as it seemed he was seeing the ball better.

Again...it's not whining, it's calling it like I see it, sorry if it hurts your feelings but I don't wear Rose colored glasses. The Yanks starting pitching will prob be the reason they don't win if they lose. That being said if that's what happens i will root hard as hell and hope they get Cole in off-season.

All that aside...go Yankees!


I'm not gonna rehash all the bs from the other night but it certainly was whining. You came into the thread not an hour into the game shitting on the Yanks and saying how the Stros would win the WS.

There were no facts involved at all in that post. Just negative bullshit while most of us here were trying to be positive and enjoy the game. Others voiced opinions on moves but your posts were more than that and you saying you were "only" posting facts isn't 100% true no matter how many times you say it.
Fair or unfair, Stanton's gonna get a lot of shit for this.  
bceagle05 : 10/15/2019 12:28 pm : link
Hicks begged his way onto the roster with a torn elbow tendon, CC's shoulder and knee are held together by duct tape at this point, Didi finished the ALDS last season after blowing out his elbow early in the series. Not a good look for the guy with the biggest contract on the team.
What a bad year for Stanton.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/15/2019 12:32 pm : link
And now he's going to look like a pussy from the fans' perspective. Woof. I like Stanton, but I wouldn't be opposed to trying to find a trade partner for him next season. Not that I expect it to happen. Doubt any team out there wants to take on that contract.
RE: What a bad year for Stanton.  
Tesla : 10/15/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14629519 Dave in Hoboken said:
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And now he's going to look like a pussy from the fans' perspective. Woof. I like Stanton, but I wouldn't be opposed to trying to find a trade partner for him next season. Not that I expect it to happen. Doubt any team out there wants to take on that contract.


How do we know that Stanton's not telling Boone he's good to go - or even begging to get into the game? You don't think the guy wants to play in the ALCS? Really???
RE: Fair or unfair, Stanton's gonna get a lot of shit for this.  
section125 : 10/15/2019 12:41 pm : link
In comment 14629512 bceagle05 said:
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Hicks begged his way onto the roster with a torn elbow tendon, CC's shoulder and knee are held together by duct tape at this point, Didi finished the ALDS last season after blowing out his elbow early in the series. Not a good look for the guy with the biggest contract on the team.


Ehh, not sure that Hicks had a torn UCL - it was inflamed and continued use could have caused damage/tear. And rest was the prescribed treatment. He did rest, it healed maybe a bit faster than the MDs thought. He's back.

If Stanton cannot run, he cannot play. Maybe two days off and the inflammation goes away. Must be close or he'd be replaced. They already said he can pinch hit.
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arcarsenal : 10/15/2019 12:49 pm : link
To me, it's just more concerning that Stanton has now had what... 3 separate stints this year where he's played something like 5 or less games and wound up hurt? It's one thing when you get hit with a fastball right in the grill... that's serious shit.

But, this year, he's basically wound up hurt by swinging a bat, running, and sliding. Three things that are required of pretty much every baseball player. It's just frustrating. This is where we need the guy the most and he's not available at the most crucial time.

It just leaves us short-handed. We're already carrying the extra pitcher as it is. Being limited to two bench guys is really not ideal here. Especially when one of them is Romine... who you're only using in case of injury to Sanchez.
A hobbled Stanton is bad news in the LF, but with the way Boone is  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/15/2019 12:50 pm : link
talking, I doubt he had to convince Stanton not to play.

Agree with Arc...  
Tesla : 10/15/2019 12:58 pm : link
Stanton's injury history this year is EXTREMELY concerning going forward, considering how much we owe this guy over the next 8 years. He's proven on 3 separate occasions that he can't go more than a week without getting injured. He's getting close to Ellsbury/Bird territory.

The only good news is that he hasn't been this injury prone in the past.....but if his body is breaking down now his contract is going to be a hell of an albatross moving forward.
Yeah this is going to be rough on Stanton  
Stu11 : 10/15/2019 1:04 pm : link
especially if we come up short. Thing that perplexes me is Gardy back to 3rd and Gleyber 5th. I don't have the batting order obsession that some here have, but that's a head scratcher the way Gleyber has hit in the playoffs. He needs to bat in the first inning for sure and at worst 4th. None of this is based on career #'s vs. Cole because the sample sizes are way too small besides DJ, and if you were caught up on that Maybin would be playing. I'm fine with Hicks playing. He looked comfortable in his only AB and got to play a bit in the field.
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Kyle in NY : 10/15/2019 1:06 pm : link
I think it's the Yankees call, not Stanton's. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes so I don't think it's fair to say he doesn't want to be in there.

I'm just frustrated by the complete inability to do anything strenuous on a baseball field this season without winding up injured. What kind of preparation is going on?

Boone says he's available off the bench. He also says if it was the regular season he'd go to the IL. So I'm just a bit confused by the whole situation. And if he's truly available, he should be in there at DH.

Whatever, frustrated to be dealing with this yet again but we've got a game to win. Hopefully it's a moot point
Remember, Stanton can opt-out after next season  
Stan in LA : 10/15/2019 1:10 pm : link
That solves a lot of problems.
RE: Remember, Stanton can opt-out after next season  
Mad Mike : 10/15/2019 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14629571 Stan in LA said:
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That solves a lot of problems.

Yeah, injury-riddled underperformers typically opt-out of lucrative contracts.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Don't be a pussy  
BleedBlue : 10/15/2019 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14629511 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14629239 Greg from LI said:


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Leave the defeatist talk for the sorryass Giants.



Funny how Bleedblue isn't here now but you can be damn sure at the first sign of something not going our way tonight, he'll be chiming in.




I'm right here dude.

I don't know why you guys think about me so much. I'm flattered really.

Truth is....I just speak facts. I am sorry if you don't like hearing the fact that if we can't get much from our starters we won't win.
I am a realist. I will be rooting as hard as all of you and I have confidence in the lineup and pen, but the SP leaves alot to be desired. I think tonight is going to be insanely tough game to win(part of reason I was so pissed he lost game 2).
I am not going to blow the team no matter how they play. It's so funny because I was first to say Didi, sanchez, EE look lost at plate and like 5 of you jumped on me calling me names and shit like 5 year olds. Then about 10+ people said it after me....and NOBODY gave them shit. I've coached baseball for 15+ years. It's obviously those 3 aren't having good ABs and they need to change approach. I was encouraged by sanchezs last AB though as it seemed he was seeing the ball better.

Again...it's not whining, it's calling it like I see it, sorry if it hurts your feelings but I don't wear Rose colored glasses. The Yanks starting pitching will prob be the reason they don't win if they lose. That being said if that's what happens i will root hard as hell and hope they get Cole in off-season.

All that aside...go Yankees!



I'm not gonna rehash all the bs from the other night but it certainly was whining. You came into the thread not an hour into the game shitting on the Yanks and saying how the Stros would win the WS.

There were no facts involved at all in that post. Just negative bullshit while most of us here were trying to be positive and enjoy the game. Others voiced opinions on moves but your posts were more than that and you saying you were "only" posting facts isn't 100% true no matter how many times you say it.



It was my opinion Houston will be in WS and the fact they made two strong moves for starters is my reasoning....I'm allowed to an opinion.
I also think they have more hope that Hicks  
Stu11 : 10/15/2019 1:14 pm : link
may run into one of Cole's high fastballs. Maybin's 4 hits vs. Cole have been singles so who knows there could be some bleeders or bloops int here.
surprised they don't just DH Stanton for the game  
xman : 10/15/2019 1:15 pm : link
against Cole and bench the cold EE .
RE: RE: What a bad year for Stanton.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/15/2019 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14629523 Tesla said:
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And now he's going to look like a pussy from the fans' perspective. Woof. I like Stanton, but I wouldn't be opposed to trying to find a trade partner for him next season. Not that I expect it to happen. Doubt any team out there wants to take on that contract.



How do we know that Stanton's not telling Boone he's good to go - or even begging to get into the game? You don't think the guy wants to play in the ALCS? Really???


Begging into the game? LOL. There was a report that after the game he played he went into the trainers room and told a trainer that his quad hurts. So, I'm going to go with a no on that one, dawg.
RE: RE: RE: What a bad year for Stanton.  
section125 : 10/15/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14629586 Dave in Hoboken said:
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And now he's going to look like a pussy from the fans' perspective. Woof. I like Stanton, but I wouldn't be opposed to trying to find a trade partner for him next season. Not that I expect it to happen. Doubt any team out there wants to take on that contract.



How do we know that Stanton's not telling Boone he's good to go - or even begging to get into the game? You don't think the guy wants to play in the ALCS? Really???



Begging into the game? LOL. There was a report that after the game he played he went into the trainers room and told a trainer that his quad hurts. So, I'm going to go with a no on that one, dawg.


thanks for the hearsay....
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arcarsenal : 10/15/2019 1:26 pm : link
Jints on the game thread for this one? Need some good mojo here, boys.
RE: I'm just glad today's game is 4 for a change  
Nick in LA : 10/15/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14629201 mfsd said:
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so I'll get to sleep at a reasonable hour. I'm sure I wasn't the only one dragging yesterday


Crappy for us west coast people. I will have it on at the office but won't be able to pay too close attention.

I might be feeling a little sick though....
RE: RE: RE: RE: What a bad year for Stanton.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/15/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14629593 section125 said:
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And now he's going to look like a pussy from the fans' perspective. Woof. I like Stanton, but I wouldn't be opposed to trying to find a trade partner for him next season. Not that I expect it to happen. Doubt any team out there wants to take on that contract.



How do we know that Stanton's not telling Boone he's good to go - or even begging to get into the game? You don't think the guy wants to play in the ALCS? Really???



Begging into the game? LOL. There was a report that after the game he played he went into the trainers room and told a trainer that his quad hurts. So, I'm going to go with a no on that one, dawg.



thanks for the hearsay....


Not hearsay. It was discussed on the Kay show yesterday.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: What a bad year for Stanton.  
section125 : 10/15/2019 1:49 pm : link
In comment 14629617 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Not hearsay. It was discussed on the Kay show yesterday.


Hmm, I did not see it in any of the reports in writing. But if Kay said it, it must be so.

I know Reggie was pretty ticked.
RE: Don't be a pussy  
Pep22 : 10/15/2019 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14629239 Greg from LI said:
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Leave the defeatist talk for the sorryass Giants.


Odd comment for a Giants board.
A couple of us are bringing our laptops to our coffee bar to work  
aimrocky : 10/15/2019 1:55 pm : link
and watch the game. It's better than nothing.
So Stanton is a pussy because he told the trainers  
Tesla : 10/15/2019 2:00 pm : link
he hurt his quad? WTF else was he supposed to do??? You guys are out of your fucking minds here.

Boone told the media today Stanton "wants it pretty bad." You guys honestly think he doesn't want to play in the ALCS???
RE: So Stanton is a pussy because he told the trainers  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/15/2019 2:12 pm : link
In comment 14629628 Tesla said:
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he hurt his quad? WTF else was he supposed to do??? You guys are out of your fucking minds here.

Boone told the media today Stanton "wants it pretty bad." You guys honestly think he doesn't want to play in the ALCS???


I don't think he's a pussy, but he's not exactly 'begging into the game' as someone else put it, either, which is fine. But the fact that everytime this guy comes back, a few games later he injures something else, is very, very odd at this point. It's happened numerous times this season.
If he's hurt  
Kyle in NY : 10/15/2019 2:13 pm : link
then he has to tell them. Especially considering they've been relying on him to play LF. It's irresponsible for him to not say something. I have little doubt he wants to be in there.

I just don't understand why he can't seem to play 5-10 games without getting hurt running the bases. It is truly infuriating. I think if he's anywhere close to capable of playing they should put him in there. But that ain't my call
We're not in these conversations  
Kyle in NY : 10/15/2019 2:14 pm : link
We have no clue whether he's begging to get in the game or not.
RE: RE: Don't be a pussy  
Greg from LI : 10/15/2019 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14629623 Pep22 said:
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Odd comment for a Giants board.


Why?
If Stanton  
Carson53 : 10/15/2019 2:35 pm : link
is not ready for Game 4, just move on to the next man.
You can't play a man short, and most especially this time
of the year. Fat chance anybody would take on another
EIGHT YEARS of that contract! For all the good moves
the GM has made, don't forget about Ellsbury, Stanton,
and Hicks as well. All bad contracts, just saying.
RE: If it rains tomorrow,  
Jay in Toronto : 10/15/2019 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14629140 section125 said:
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why not go with Tanaka or Paxton and skip the BP?


Masa needs rest between starts
RE: RE: If it rains tomorrow,  
Eman11 : 10/15/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14629690 Jay in Toronto said:
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why not go with Tanaka or Paxton and skip the BP?



Masa needs rest between starts


If Wednesday is rained out, he'd be on regular rest on Thursday. I could actually see them go with Paxton there since he didn't throw much on Sunday night and giving Masa the extra days rest and pitch him on Friday.

RE: .  
Percy : 10/15/2019 9:29 pm : link
In comment 14629170 arcarsenal said:
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Paxton's short outing should make him available on Thursday I would think... I'd definitely consider starting him on 3 DR or working him into that game if tomorrow gets rained out. He only threw 51 pitches.

Agree.
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