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RasputinPrime : 10/15/2019 2:04 pm


George Springer (R) RF
Michael Brantley (L) LF
José Altuve (R) 2B
Alex Bregman (R) 3B
Yordan Alvarez (L) DH
Yuli Gurriel (R) 1B
Carlos Correa (R) SS
Robinson Chirinos (R) CA
Jake Marisnick (R) CF
Gerrit Cole (R) PI

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This team has like reg season allstars  
superspynyg : 10/15/2019 7:36 pm : link
And Zero post season players
So We Need A Really Big Ninth  
Percy : 10/15/2019 7:37 pm : link
Has happened from time time. Why not now?
You guys who think he got the helmet are going on the angle  
Stu11 : 10/15/2019 7:37 pm : link
From the 1b dugout.
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threeofakind33 : 10/15/2019 7:37 pm : link
What is Buck on about, it was hit right at Correia and he booted it. “What a good okay?” Fuck off.
This game as me is over  
superspynyg : 10/15/2019 7:38 pm : link
Actually I think our post season is over. We may win next game but we can’t beat Verlander and Cole.
RE: RE: RE: He never touches the helmet  
Eman11 : 10/15/2019 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14630200 threeofakind33 said:
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WTF are these announcers seeing?




I absolutely saw the mitt touch the helmet. You didn't see that?




I think you saw his arm, not the glove.


That's what I saw too. Looked clear to me it was his arm that hit EE's helmet not the glove. Now if his arm is considered part of the tag then I understand the call but I always thought you had to make contact with the glove or ball on a tag play.
RE: .  
threeofakind33 : 10/15/2019 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14630221 threeofakind33 said:
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What is Buck on about, it was hit right at Correia and he booted it. “What a good okay?” Fuck off.


“What a good play.”
The fact that we'll argue this all night tells you it should never ove  
Stu11 : 10/15/2019 7:39 pm : link
The ump had the right angle and made the right call
As I've said 10000 times  
BleedBlue : 10/15/2019 7:39 pm : link

Sanchez, Didi, gardner are all lost at the plate. eE is too even tho he had a hit tonight.


Boone bats 2 of those guys 3-4.

Morrow is a must win
RE: RE: RE: RE: He never touches the helmet  
montanagiant : 10/15/2019 7:40 pm : link
In comment 14630224 Eman11 said:
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WTF are these announcers seeing?




I absolutely saw the mitt touch the helmet. You didn't see that?




I think you saw his arm, not the glove.



That's what I saw too. Looked clear to me it was his arm that hit EE's helmet not the glove. Now if his arm is considered part of the tag then I understand the call but I always thought you had to make contact with the glove or ball on a tag play.

You're correct, has to be the glove with the ball in it
RE: Lmao  
Eman11 : 10/15/2019 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14630204 BleedBlue said:
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Didi is garb


What took you so long? I expected this post before the ball was even caught.
note to Boone  
Matt in SGS : 10/15/2019 7:42 pm : link
Do not pitch Ottovino again and Cessa has earned more time.

And the Yankees are going to murder the Astros in Game 4, if any game will be a blowout, that's the one.

But they need to beat Cole or Verlander once, they had their chance to steal that Game 2.
RE: RE: RE: RE: He never touches the helmet  
section125 : 10/15/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14630224 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14630195 Leg of Theismann said:


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WTF are these announcers seeing?




I absolutely saw the mitt touch the helmet. You didn't see that?




I think you saw his arm, not the glove.



That's what I saw too. Looked clear to me it was his arm that hit EE's helmet not the glove. Now if his arm is considered part of the tag then I understand the call but I always thought you had to make contact with the glove or ball on a tag play.


To tag a player out, the hand with the ball must contact the player.

A force play, any part of the player holding the ball can touch the bag.
I have a GIF of it  
Leg of Theismann : 10/15/2019 7:43 pm : link
but I have no idea how to post it. Do I have to upload to a website or something?
RE: note to Boone  
section125 : 10/15/2019 7:44 pm : link
In comment 14630232 Matt in SGS said:
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Do not pitch Ottavino again and Cessa has earned more time.

And the Yankees are going to murder the Astros in Game 4, if any game will be a blowout, that's the one.

But they need to beat Cole or Verlander once, they had their chance to steal that Game 2.


They had many opportunities today and Sunday night to score. 7 LOB in the first 4 innings today.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: He never touches the helmet  
Eman11 : 10/15/2019 7:46 pm : link
In comment 14630233 section125 said:
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WTF are these announcers seeing?




I absolutely saw the mitt touch the helmet. You didn't see that?




I think you saw his arm, not the glove.



That's what I saw too. Looked clear to me it was his arm that hit EE's helmet not the glove. Now if his arm is considered part of the tag then I understand the call but I always thought you had to make contact with the glove or ball on a tag play.



To tag a player out, the hand with the ball must contact the player.

A force play, any part of the player holding the ball can touch the bag.


Yeah that's what I've always thought but figured maybe it wasn't the case since I only saw the arm contact EE before he stepped on first. Thought maybe all these years I was mistaken and they consider the arm part of the glove. Lol.
RE: I have a GIF of it  
threeofakind33 : 10/15/2019 7:46 pm : link
In comment 14630236 Leg of Theismann said:
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but I have no idea how to post it. Do I have to upload to a website or something?


The down the line angle appears to show what you think is his glove hitting the helmet is actually Gurriel’s arm.

It looks like his glove on the one angle, on the other it looks like it’s his arm.

In other words, call should have stood as it was called on the field.

Nice two innings by Cessa.
Not going to cry about not having German and Betances, but the offense  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/15/2019 7:47 pm : link
is ice cold. Gleyber and on occasion Judge can't be the only offense. We now have enough of a sample on most of the roster who perform well in the playoffs. Cash needs to go away from all-or-nothing guess hitters, they tend to come up small in the playoffs against good pitching. How many failed playoff runs do we need to see that?

On another note, if Stanton's salary is cited as a reason on why Cole isn't an option this offseason, Cashman has to answer for that as well.
Cessa  
Percy : 10/15/2019 7:48 pm : link
, Who I really don't like, did pretty well in there. Better than some to whom we pay a lot more and give a lot more respect.

Now it is time for the hitters to show up.
Gif  
Leg of Theismann : 10/15/2019 7:49 pm : link
Strike one, huh?  
Greg from LI : 10/15/2019 7:50 pm : link
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Umpire  
MookGiants : 10/15/2019 7:50 pm : link
giving Osuna a foot off the plate for strike 1, lovely
RE: RE: I have a GIF of it  
Eman11 : 10/15/2019 7:50 pm : link
In comment 14630242 threeofakind33 said:
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but I have no idea how to post it. Do I have to upload to a website or something?



The down the line angle appears to show what you think is his glove hitting the helmet is actually Gurriel’s arm.

It looks like his glove on the one angle, on the other it looks like it’s his arm.

In other words, call should have stood as it was called on the field.

Nice two innings by Cessa.


Yep and where are those zoom in freeze frame close ups we would get during the regular season?
RE: Gif  
Leg of Theismann : 10/15/2019 7:50 pm : link
In comment 14630249 Leg of Theismann said:
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didn't work.

The down the line view isn't where you see it, it's the view from EE's right side where the bottom of the glove appears to pretty clearly bend when it makes contact.
RE: Not going to cry about not having German and Betances, but the offense  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/15/2019 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14630243 Jim in Hoboken said:
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is ice cold. Gleyber and on occasion Judge can't be the only offense. We now have enough of a sample on most of the roster who perform well in the playoffs. Cash needs to go away from all-or-nothing guess hitters, they tend to come up small in the playoffs against good pitching. How many failed playoff runs do we need to see that?

On another note, if Stanton's salary is cited as a reason on why Cole isn't an option this offseason, Cashman has to answer for that as well.




And batting Gardy 3rd and Torres 5th is the dumbest thing I’ve seen!!
RE: Not going to cry about not having German and Betances, but the offense  
Nine-Tails : 10/15/2019 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14630243 Jim in Hoboken said:
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is ice cold. Gleyber and on occasion Judge can't be the only offense. We now have enough of a sample on most of the roster who perform well in the playoffs. Cash needs to go away from all-or-nothing guess hitters, they tend to come up small in the playoffs against good pitching. How many failed playoff runs do we need to see that?

On another note, if Stanton's salary is cited as a reason on why Cole isn't an option this offseason, Cashman has to answer for that as well.


Sadly, I don’t think the way we operate is gonna change. We’re going to add to the bullpen again, minor moves for the offense, and maybe a cheap starter or trade for a guy who has good stuff and control, but hasn’t blossomed
Ahhhh  
BleedBlue : 10/15/2019 7:51 pm : link
Game 4 is a must win
Buck and Smoltz  
MookGiants : 10/15/2019 7:51 pm : link
dont even say a word
RE: RE: Not going to cry about not having German and Betances, but the offense  
BleedBlue : 10/15/2019 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14630258 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:
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is ice cold. Gleyber and on occasion Judge can't be the only offense. We now have enough of a sample on most of the roster who perform well in the playoffs. Cash needs to go away from all-or-nothing guess hitters, they tend to come up small in the playoffs against good pitching. How many failed playoff runs do we need to see that?

On another note, if Stanton's salary is cited as a reason on why Cole isn't an option this offseason, Cashman has to answer for that as well.





And batting Gardy 3rd and Torres 5th is the dumbest thing I’ve seen!!



Don't say that guys here suck off Boone and think it was right move.

Gardner is NRVER a 3 hitter. It's a joke
Maybe here  
Leg of Theismann : 10/15/2019 7:52 pm : link
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Glove makes contact with helmet - ( New Window )
They Did Not Show Up  
Percy : 10/15/2019 7:53 pm : link
Maybe tomorrow.
All the cockroaches have shown up tonight, I see  
Greg from LI : 10/15/2019 7:53 pm : link
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RE: Ahhhh  
Matt in SGS : 10/15/2019 7:53 pm : link
In comment 14630260 BleedBlue said:
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Game 4 is a must win


That game has the Yankees jumping out to a 5 or 6 run lead early. I'd be shocked if it's not something like a 10-3 final.
I saw the gif on Jomboy  
Stu11 : 10/15/2019 7:55 pm : link
Jomboy is convinced its conclusive but All I see is the helmet and glove going down but it's either EE ducking or the forearm hitting him. No way I'm convinced its conclusive. Meh its moot we did nothing else. Let's get'em manana
RE: RE: Ahhhh  
BleedBlue : 10/15/2019 7:55 pm : link
In comment 14630268 Matt in SGS said:
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Game 4 is a must win



That game has the Yankees jumping out to a 5 or 6 run lead early. I'd be shocked if it's not something like a 10-3 final.


Your mouth gods ears
RE: RE: Ahhhh  
Nine-Tails : 10/15/2019 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14630268 Matt in SGS said:
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Game 4 is a must win



That game has the Yankees jumping out to a 5 or 6 run lead early. I'd be shocked if it's not something like a 10-3 final.


With a probable rain out, I wonder if Houston goes Verlander in game 5
Hopefully  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2019 7:56 pm : link
This is it for the Ottavino fetish. He’s a good pitcher, but insisting on using him against their very best hitters in the important spots night in and out is sub-optimal. He’s not that dominant.
RE: All the cockroaches have shown up tonight, I see  
Stu11 : 10/15/2019 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14630267 Greg from LI said:
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Tonight it was a massive infestation Greg. You had guys writing season post mortems in the 4th inning.
RE: All the cockroaches have shown up tonight, I see  
section125 : 10/15/2019 7:57 pm : link
In comment 14630267 Greg from LI said:
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Why even bother. Best to avoid game threads when all the DBs show up. Why get ajita reading moronic nonsense from all the trolls looking to get under your skin.
Good to see we're still these geeks' bitches.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/15/2019 7:57 pm : link
Humiliating game on every front. Need an ace next year. And no, Sevy is not an ace.
It feels so hopeless for  
giants_10_88 : 10/15/2019 7:57 pm : link
NY sports.
Eh, this was always going to be the likely scenario  
jcn56 : 10/15/2019 7:57 pm : link
the Yankees having a hard time hitting both Verlander and Cole.

The only bit of it that adds insult to injury was that they managed to outlast Verlander and get stymied by their BP, and that Cole looked a bit off today and they couldn't take advantage.

Otherwise, if someone had told you they'd be down 2-1 going into game 4 at YS, I don't think you'd be overly upset or surprised.
Hopefully the rain cleanses us.  
bceagle05 : 10/15/2019 7:57 pm : link
I know it's great pitching but the bats needs to wake up. If Stanton doesn't feel better tomorrow - see ya in spring training.
Yanks need to beat Verlander or Cole  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/15/2019 7:58 pm : link
Once !! And beat the crap out of the other 3 starters!!
RE: RE: RE: Ahhhh  
Matt in SGS : 10/15/2019 7:58 pm : link
In comment 14630276 Nine-Tails said:
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Game 4 is a must win



That game has the Yankees jumping out to a 5 or 6 run lead early. I'd be shocked if it's not something like a 10-3 final.



With a probable rain out, I wonder if Houston goes Verlander in game 5


I think they will. Game 4 if it's their bullpen or Grienke, won't matter. That's a game that I see the Yankees unloading early, the fans are into it and shit snowballs. Houston throws the back of their pen to soak up innings and they get all kinds of fucked up. But they will save their bullets for Verlander and Cole. Hinch is no dummy. He knows he will need to steal a game without those guys. Yanks jump on them early, he will waive the white flag quick.
RE: Hopefully  
Greg from LI : 10/15/2019 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14630278 bigbluehoya said:
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This is it for the Ottavino fetish. He’s a good pitcher, but insisting on using him against their very best hitters in the important spots night in and out is sub-optimal. He’s not that dominant.


It has to be. He has flubbed every chance he's gotten in the playoffs, both in the Twins series and this one. Great season but he just isn't getting it done.

Still can't believe Betances tore his Achilles just doing a little jump o the mound.
RE: Hopefully  
section125 : 10/15/2019 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14630278 bigbluehoya said:
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This is it for the Ottavino fetish. He’s a good pitcher, but insisting on using him against their very best hitters in the important spots night in and out is sub-optimal. He’s not that dominant.


He was dominant during the year until September. I really think he has gotten arm tired and lost command of the zone. Too many walks.
RE: Maybe here  
threeofakind33 : 10/15/2019 8:00 pm : link
In comment 14630264 Leg of Theismann said:
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... Glove makes contact with helmet - ( New Window )


I definitely see the helmet move. Something hits his head. I’m not compelled, with certainty, by your GIF that it was his glove. I do think it’s possible.

Either way, it certainly wasn’t the reason the Yankees lost today. Lineup may need a shakeup. Bullpen pecking order needs an evaluation now as well. We are building a sample size on some of these guys. Have to learn from it. Some players are clearly not up to the moment, others are (Hicks, Torres, Judge, DJ, Britton, Chapman, Kahnle, Cessa).
RE: RE: RE: RE: Ahhhh  
Nine-Tails : 10/15/2019 8:01 pm : link
In comment 14630286 Matt in SGS said:
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Game 4 is a must win



That game has the Yankees jumping out to a 5 or 6 run lead early. I'd be shocked if it's not something like a 10-3 final.



With a probable rain out, I wonder if Houston goes Verlander in game 5



I think they will. Game 4 if it's their bullpen or Grienke, won't matter. That's a game that I see the Yankees unloading early, the fans are into it and shit snowballs. Houston throws the back of their pen to soak up innings and they get all kinds of fucked up. But they will save their bullets for Verlander and Cole. Hinch is no dummy. He knows he will need to steal a game without those guys. Yanks jump on them early, he will waive the white flag quick.


I forgot about the extra day. So with a rainout, Houston could greinke Thursday and verlander Friday. Shit. While I know we can take Greinke, having to see that big three six games in a row
....  
BleedBlue : 10/15/2019 8:02 pm : link
That's why we needed to take game two or 3. We beat grienke. Lose to Verlander then play Cole in Houston in elimination game. Dude will K 10+
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