Trent Williams to Cleveland rumor emerges

Well, at the very least he's a huge upgrade over Greg Robinson

they should be fielding all offers. New England has Marshall Newhouse at LT. I'm sure Lil' Bill would be thrilled to have Trent protecting the Statue of Brady.

straight up for Williams... ;)

Desperate teams with high hopes need to make moves. Obviously Cleveland is one of them. I suppose Dallas is right there with them...probably looking to get help in their secondary too. Rams too. There are others of course....those 3 come to my mind quickly.

As for the Pats, they are always looking to improve. WR help for sure is on the way.

In comment 14630037 Anakim said:

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Well, at the very least he's a huge upgrade over Greg Robinson

How is this rearranging deck chairs? Trent will be a huge upgrade and possibly stabilize the OL. If he's in shape.

It may be a desperation move, but not one that fits the rearranging deck chairs cliche. Trading for Marshall Newhouse (for example) would fit that phrase.

In comment 14630144 5BowlsSoon said:

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Desperate teams with high hopes need to make moves. Obviously Cleveland is one of them. I suppose Dallas is right there with them...probably looking to get help in their secondary too. Rams too. There are others of course....those 3 come to my mind quickly. As for the Pats, they are always looking to improve. WR help for sure is on the way.

The number 1 team to enter anybody's head with respect to the secondary is the Eagles.

they get adequate compensation, it's an uncommonly smart move by the Redskins. Williams won't play for them, and even if did suddenly decide to end his hold out and do so, they are 1-5. Their season is over. His trade value is also at its highest right now just before the trade deadline.

In comment 14630095 bw in dc said:

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straight up for Williams... ;)

I'd take a chicken parm hero for Solder.

behind a better O-Line?

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behind a better O-Line?

Blame Beckham?

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behind a better O-Line?

he'll probably be fired

In comment 14630095 bw in dc said:

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straight up for Williams... ;)

yes

In comment 14630154 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 14630037 Anakim said: Quote: Well, at the very least he's a huge upgrade over Greg Robinson How is this rearranging deck chairs? Trent will be a huge upgrade and possibly stabilize the OL. If he's in shape. It may be a desperation move, but not one that fits the rearranging deck chairs cliche. Trading for Marshall Newhouse (for example) would fit that phrase.

Browns are not making the playoffs this year, IMO. They're in complete disarray and while Williams would help, he's not going to be the catalyst to them making the playoffs.

Browns can still make playoffs this year. Their schedule gets much easier in a couple of games.

In comment 14630483 ZogZerg said:

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Browns can still make playoffs this year. Their schedule gets much easier in a couple of games.

Yep. We all too often make absolute statements based on current performance in sports.

Teams come together, begin to play well, begin to win. I still harken back to the opening two games of the Giants 07 season,

If memory serves me correctly there were quite a few absolute statements made about where that team was going.

In comment 14630418 Anakim said:

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In comment 14630154 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 14630037 Anakim said: Quote: Well, at the very least he's a huge upgrade over Greg Robinson How is this rearranging deck chairs? Trent will be a huge upgrade and possibly stabilize the OL. If he's in shape. It may be a desperation move, but not one that fits the rearranging deck chairs cliche. Trading for Marshall Newhouse (for example) would fit that phrase. Browns are not making the playoffs this year, IMO. They're in complete disarray and while Williams would help, he's not going to be the catalyst to them making the playoffs.

Browns schedule is about to get pretty easy.

I didn't read the entire thread... but what is the rumor that he can be had for?

I mean, I would love to have him at the right price.

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In comment 14630162 Chris684 said: Quote: behind a better O-Line? he'll probably be fired

Isn't Dorsey the genius that the anti-Gettleman crowd ranted about getting. (yes the browns jumped in a month ahead)

isn't that great.

They get the Pats next, then play in Denver. In Denver. Then they host the Bills.

after that they have an easier stretch, which includes two games against the Steelers. You can't count those as definite wins right now.

If they go 1-2 in their next 3 games, they will really struggle to get to .500 or make the playoffs.

Cleveland is not a good football team.

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I didn't read the entire thread... but what is the rumor that he can be had for? I mean, I would love to have him at the right price.

It can't happen for us for many reasons.
1.) Washington is not trading with the Giants. It will never happen.
2.) Williams is still under contract at $11M this year and $12M next.
3.) Solder's dead cap hit is $25M this year and $13M next year.
4.) The Giants have a little over $5M in cap space.

Even if you ignore the #1 reason, it doesn't take a math degree to understand the accounting of Solder's/William's contracts with our available cap space.

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In comment 14630533 KingBlue said: Quote: I didn't read the entire thread... but what is the rumor that he can be had for? I mean, I would love to have him at the right price. It can't happen for us for many reasons. 1.) Washington is not trading with the Giants. It will never happen. 2.) Williams is still under contract at $11M this year and $12M next. 3.) Solder's dead cap hit is $25M this year and $13M next year. 4.) The Giants have a little over $5M in cap space. Even if you ignore the #1 reason, it doesn't take a math degree to understand the accounting of Solder's/William's contracts with our available cap space.

Thanks Diver... That's that.

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I have a very reliable source telling me that the Trent Williams deal will be done by Wednesday Night and that the details are involving

Higgins
Njoku
1st pick
Our 3rd for their 5th
2021 6th round pick

For

Trent Williams

they could probably deal with losing Njoku and Higgins but to give a 1st on top of that?

To us. Need to make the call.

In comment 14631003 Brown Recluse said:

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Browns Country � @TheFanDomeShow 15h15 hours ago More I have a very reliable source telling me that the Trent Williams deal will be done by Wednesday Night and that the details are involving Higgins Njoku 1st pick Our 3rd for their 5th 2021 6th round pick For Trent Williams

Would be another crappy move for them. That's a haul.

That team is going nowhere. John Dorsey is good at building headlines. He hasn't been good at building that football team. They're painfully mediocre.

They'll be 2-5 after they lose to the Patriots. I don't see them going 8-1 or 7-2 the rest of the way which is what it'd likely take for them to be a playoff team.

Nick Chubb is the only guy on that offense earning his money right now.

is absolutely fking clueless, and it shows more each game. in way over his heaad

Kitchens is horrendous. It was easy to see that he was the wrong guy for that job from the jump. Not sure what Dorsey saw there or what made him think that was the right guy to coach this football team.

You're bringing a completely unproven guy with basically no NFL resume in to coach a lot of egos. Why are any of those guys going to respect Freddie Kitchens or have his back when things go wrong? He's accomplished nothing in this league.

Reminds me of when the Eagles promoted Juan Castillo to DC after he'd been coaching their offensive line for over a decade and had virtually zero experience coaching defenses at anything close to a pro level. It made no sense at the time, and predictably after one year, he was fired because it was a disaster.

TW for

Higgins
Njoku
1st rd pick
Browns 3rd for Skins 5th
2021 6th round pick

In comment 14631073 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 14631003 Brown Recluse said: Quote: Browns Country � @TheFanDomeShow 15h15 hours ago More I have a very reliable source telling me that the Trent Williams deal will be done by Wednesday Night and that the details are involving Higgins Njoku 1st pick Our 3rd for their 5th 2021 6th round pick For Trent Williams Would be another crappy move for them. That's a haul. That team is going nowhere. John Dorsey is good at building headlines. He hasn't been good at building that football team. They're painfully mediocre. They'll be 2-5 after they lose to the Patriots. I don't see them going 8-1 or 7-2 the rest of the way which is what it'd likely take for them to be a playoff team. Nick Chubb is the only guy on that offense earning his money right now.

normally I would agree, but unlike other teams that can have a 3-5 year window to really go all in on a championship, the browns window is more like 3-5 games.

Will OBJ and Norman ride on the same bus?

this season being a disaster for the Browns from a mile away. They could’ve been patient and just kept building through the draft instead of trying to force a winning season this year.

Other than the ONE first round pick 10-20 range. Another team would beat that offer easily.