Dante and Talib. They have to accommodate Jalen's new deal. Whitworth will be a FA and will likely retire. Not sure who they have in the pipeline to protect Goff's blindside.
RE: Rams haven't had a 1st round pick since 2016 Â
The Goff contract is destroying their judgment. Not only would they have been better off trading him; they would have been better off letting him walk and getting a comp pick.
We've got to remember this when we're saying ridiculous things about Jones being the QB for the next 10-15 years. There are lessons to be learned here.
Goff contract is going to kill them, Darnold and Ramsey are worth Â
their contracts. He's an average QB and you can afford to overpay him a bit if you have cheap talent, how you going to do that with no first rounders. Goff isn't good enough to overcome a poor offensive line and that is what he will be playing behind unless they find some gems late.
Talib is old, but Dante will be interesting, spotrac has his value Â
at 10 million which seems like it would be a prudent signing.
Especially, considering that Yannick will likely stay in Jax. My pipe-dream that he would shake free was built on the premise that Jax would have to pay Ramsey.
Have a lot of top talent. But their future doesn’t look great. Lost their first round picks, don’t have many young studs on cheap deals, and Gurley and Goff look like poor long term investments. Also, Ramsey is gonna get paid
It really depends on what we do with Golden, but he's probably looking Â
for the highest bidder, he hasn't made all that much in his career.
If he continues his play, I hope we can lock him up. I don’t think of him as the guy to lead a pass rusher, but he could be the perfect running mate for an elite pass rusher
RE: The Rams probably have this year, next and maybe the year Â
for the highest bidder, he hasn't made all that much in his career.
As he should. He might feel comfortable in Bettcher's system, but he is 28 and likely looking at his last opportunity to secure a payday. He signed a $3.75M prove-it deal. So far, he has proven that he is fully recovered from his knee which was a huge question leading him to languish and settle for his current deal.
Peters for Jalen...definitely an upgrade. Gotta hope a payday and living in LA vs Jax is a plus for Ramsey which hopefully limits the drama.
Payday in Jax is a lot greater than a payday in LA considering the Tax and cost of living differences (the way I see it). I don't understand the claims of "marketability" in NY or LA allowing players to make *substantially* more money when this day and age literally all marketing is digital media and has nothing to do with location.
I could be wrong, but it just seems to me like cost-of-living in LA + paying much higher taxes has much more direct affect on bank account and outweighs the "marketability" aspect of LA. I mean, it's not like Jalen Ramsey is going to be starring in some blockbuster action movie just because he's in LA.
I'm open to hearing other points of view and people proving me wrong but this is just the way I see it in 2019.
Peters for Jalen...definitely an upgrade. Gotta hope a payday and living in LA vs Jax is a plus for Ramsey which hopefully limits the drama.
Payday in Jax is a lot greater than a payday in LA considering the Tax and cost of living differences (the way I see it). I don't understand the claims of "marketability" in NY or LA allowing players to make *substantially* more money when this day and age literally all marketing is digital media and has nothing to do with location.
I could be wrong, but it just seems to me like cost-of-living in LA + paying much higher taxes has much more direct affect on bank account and outweighs the "marketability" aspect of LA. I mean, it's not like Jalen Ramsey is going to be starring in some blockbuster action movie just because he's in LA.
I'm open to hearing other points of view and people proving me wrong but this is just the way I see it in 2019.
I agree, you move to LA/NY for the lifestyle not for some gain. Jacksonville on $150k a year would be like living in Manhattan at $300k a year.
Now there were rumblings that Wilson wanted to be a Giant because Ciara wanted to be in NY. That would make sense all things considered, but for players themselves, no.
Jalen wants to be famous, he has made that clear. He feels like he is Â
languishing in Jax and lots of his shit talking to the media are just to garner attention. Deion Sanders is his hero, he went to FSU because of him and wants to be the next primetime.
Unlike Odell he wants to accomplish that through the field though Â
The Goff contract is destroying their judgment. Not only would they have been better off trading him; they would have been better off letting him walk and getting a comp pick.
We've got to remember this when we're saying ridiculous things about Jones being the QB for the next 10-15 years. There are lessons to be learned here.
The Rams have made a ton of dumb short-sighted decisions. Trading for Cooks and paying him was dumb. Gurley contract. Goff contract. They also went out and overpaid for a bunch of vets.
They lost a starting guard in FA as a cap casualty. Their OL is getting old and bad really quick with nothing in the pipe. They don’t have any youth to rush the passer to take some attention of Donald.
This is a similar story to what played out with the Giants under Reese except they have nothing to show for it.
There’s nothing ground breaking with the Rams brass or McVay. It won’t be long before they get their asses kicked every week just like every other team that trots weak trench players every week.
and giving up all that draft capital? I would have just stuck with Peters. Maybe they figure he's more of a headcase than Ramsey. I guess they know these guys better than the fans. Just like our team with Odell. Being around a guy with an attitude every day really wears on a team, no matter the talent level or impact that player has. Just glad neither Ramsey nor Peters went to any of our rivals. Two of the best in the league. Big moves for sure.
and giving up all that draft capital? I would have just stuck with Peters. Maybe they figure he's more of a headcase than Ramsey. I guess they know these guys better than the fans. Just like our team with Odell. Being around a guy with an attitude every day really wears on a team, no matter the talent level or impact that player has. Just glad neither Ramsey nor Peters went to any of our rivals. Two of the best in the league. Big moves for sure.
Lol what? Huge upgrade over Peters. Peters has really fallen off big time
Way too top heavy a roster built around a shaky OL and QB dependent on other players. They'll follow the same trajectory this franchise did in the early part of this decade.
Yet to be seen. I think the Rams will finish better than the 17th overall pick we got from CLE. Peppers was a first rounder and one of their best players on defense last season, and he's playing really good football for us right now. I think Gettleman and FO saw him as a first round worthy asset.
(and of course the 3rd round pick is > than the 4th JAX received)
Maybe the new stadium might yield a 7% bump in Ram fan attendance.
A 7% bump in Rams fan attendance? I say this completely sincerely - I'd love to see what you're basing that projection on. I've been trying to accurately calculate primary/secondary demographic attendance forecasts for much of my career. I've never been able to confidently land them on an exact percentage delta.
Peters for Jalen...definitely an upgrade. Gotta hope a payday and living in LA vs Jax is a plus for Ramsey which hopefully limits the drama.
Payday in Jax is a lot greater than a payday in LA considering the Tax and cost of living differences (the way I see it). I don't understand the claims of "marketability" in NY or LA allowing players to make *substantially* more money when this day and age literally all marketing is digital media and has nothing to do with location.
I could be wrong, but it just seems to me like cost-of-living in LA + paying much higher taxes has much more direct affect on bank account and outweighs the "marketability" aspect of LA. I mean, it's not like Jalen Ramsey is going to be starring in some blockbuster action movie just because he's in LA.
I'm open to hearing other points of view and people proving me wrong but this is just the way I see it in 2019.
You think Eli is the face of Citizen Watch if he's the QB of, say, the Titans? Do you think he'd have made as much from Toyota if he played for the Lions?
Don't kid yourself. It may not matter as much as it used to, but TV, radio, and OOH are all still very real marketing platforms, and the market itself matters.
They were already fading this year.
Paying so much money on a handful of players and trading away young, good, "cheap" players it will be difficult for them to compete in a couple of years.
Eli Manning makes 7 million in endorsements, Matt Ryan 5 million Â
Peyton was making 12 million a year. The market doesn't really matter anymore and the cost of taxes is detrimental at this level and the marketing doesn't seem to make up for it. Being good and winning superbowls is much more important to the marketing aspect than what city you play for.
I wonder if it has to do with the collective bargaining Â
They thought the Eagles were going to trade for Ramsey. I'm glad the Rams got him. That'll make them better, but the 49ers are still better than the Rams. Goff is overrated.
I would seriously like to know what was the issue with Jalen and TC specifically... rumor was "something was said" to Jalen, and whatever was said led him to asking for a trade and apparently TC was the one who may have said it... so... would love to know what happened behind the scenes there.
Love this deal for the Jags. As long as they draft like they have in recent years and not the way they did from the early to mid 2000's all the way through the Blake Bortles, 3rd overall draft...
If Jalen isnt the best Corner in football the next 5 years... then this is a awful move by L.A... I doubt they make the playoffs this year
Peters for Jalen...definitely an upgrade. Gotta hope a payday and living in LA vs Jax is a plus for Ramsey which hopefully limits the drama.
Payday in Jax is a lot greater than a payday in LA considering the Tax and cost of living differences (the way I see it). I don't understand the claims of "marketability" in NY or LA allowing players to make *substantially* more money when this day and age literally all marketing is digital media and has nothing to do with location.
I could be wrong, but it just seems to me like cost-of-living in LA + paying much higher taxes has much more direct affect on bank account and outweighs the "marketability" aspect of LA. I mean, it's not like Jalen Ramsey is going to be starring in some blockbuster action movie just because he's in LA.
I'm open to hearing other points of view and people proving me wrong but this is just the way I see it in 2019.
You think Eli is the face of Citizen Watch if he's the QB of, say, the Titans? Do you think he'd have made as much from Toyota if he played for the Lions?
Don't kid yourself. It may not matter as much as it used to, but TV, radio, and OOH are all still very real marketing platforms, and the market itself matters.
1) As a single case: Eli is a quarterback, a Manning, and won 2 super bowl MVPs. He was going to get his fair share endorsements, regardless of the team he played for. I guarantee you that.
2) Quarterbacks in particular are more often "the face of the NFL" and when you are the best in the sport THAT is when you get your endorsements, regardless of the city you live in. Peyton was never in LA or NY and he is the most marketable football player of all time. Have you noticed Baker Mayfield on EVERY SINGLE COMMERCIAL these days? And he's a crappy city with a historically crappy team. Aaron Rodgers has plenty of endorsement $. I guarantee you'll be seeing Mahomes everywhere for the next 10 years. You don't have to play in NY or LA and your point about Eli proves nothing, if you're an ultra-successful NFL QB you are going to get your endorsements, period. (As another poster said Matt Ryan made $5M in endorsements the same calendar year Eli made $7M, and Eli has accomplished way more in his career AND he's a damn Manning which is football royalty).
3) You're talking about what team a guy plays for, whereas I was mostly referring to the effect of the city they're in, which I know is going to have a lot of crossover because generally the more populated cities have more popular teams. BUT-- the Packers are a hugely marketable team despite being in an incredibly small city. If your point is just that the team a guy plays for matters to his marketability to some extent, I absolutely agree with you, but the Rams and Chargers don't have relatively huge fanbases in spite of the fact that they are in the 2nd largest city in the country. My point was simply that Jalen Ramsey being in LA/Hollywood doesn't mean a whole lot for how much money he's going to make from a marketability stand-point when compared to how much he's losing in taxes and cost-of-living by living in LA compared to Jacksonville, FL.
Dante and Talib. They have to accommodate Jalen's new deal. Whitworth will be a FA and will likely retire. Not sure who they have in the pipeline to protect Goff's blindside.
Wow
You are right. That is unbelievable.
We've got to remember this when we're saying ridiculous things about Jones being the QB for the next 10-15 years. There are lessons to be learned here.
Especially, considering that Yannick will likely stay in Jax. My pipe-dream that he would shake free was built on the premise that Jax would have to pay Ramsey.
If he continues his play, I hope we can lock him up. I don’t think of him as the guy to lead a pass rusher, but he could be the perfect running mate for an elite pass rusher
As I said above, they need to unload Donald.
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Peters for Jalen...definitely an upgrade. Gotta hope a payday and living in LA vs Jax is a plus for Ramsey which hopefully limits the drama.
Most the reason Ramsey was a pain in the ass was playing in a nowheresville market, he wants to be like his idol deion.
makes sense in a matter of fact way, but usually the personality of a drama queen doesn't just disappear, unless it was just a calculated act.
As he should. He might feel comfortable in Bettcher's system, but he is 28 and likely looking at his last opportunity to secure a payday. He signed a $3.75M prove-it deal. So far, he has proven that he is fully recovered from his knee which was a huge question leading him to languish and settle for his current deal.
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Peters for Jalen...definitely an upgrade. Gotta hope a payday and living in LA vs Jax is a plus for Ramsey which hopefully limits the drama.
Payday in Jax is a lot greater than a payday in LA considering the Tax and cost of living differences (the way I see it). I don't understand the claims of "marketability" in NY or LA allowing players to make *substantially* more money when this day and age literally all marketing is digital media and has nothing to do with location.
I could be wrong, but it just seems to me like cost-of-living in LA + paying much higher taxes has much more direct affect on bank account and outweighs the "marketability" aspect of LA. I mean, it's not like Jalen Ramsey is going to be starring in some blockbuster action movie just because he's in LA.
I'm open to hearing other points of view and people proving me wrong but this is just the way I see it in 2019.
2017: to Tennessee for Jared Goff
2018: to New England for Brandin Cooks
2019: to Atlanta in trade down
2020-21: to Jacksonville for Jalen Ramsey
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Rams panicking?
Peters for Jalen...definitely an upgrade. Gotta hope a payday and living in LA vs Jax is a plus for Ramsey which hopefully limits the drama.
Payday in Jax is a lot greater than a payday in LA considering the Tax and cost of living differences (the way I see it). I don't understand the claims of "marketability" in NY or LA allowing players to make *substantially* more money when this day and age literally all marketing is digital media and has nothing to do with location.
I could be wrong, but it just seems to me like cost-of-living in LA + paying much higher taxes has much more direct affect on bank account and outweighs the "marketability" aspect of LA. I mean, it's not like Jalen Ramsey is going to be starring in some blockbuster action movie just because he's in LA.
I'm open to hearing other points of view and people proving me wrong but this is just the way I see it in 2019.
I agree, you move to LA/NY for the lifestyle not for some gain. Jacksonville on $150k a year would be like living in Manhattan at $300k a year.
Now there were rumblings that Wilson wanted to be a Giant because Ciara wanted to be in NY. That would make sense all things considered, but for players themselves, no.
We've got to remember this when we're saying ridiculous things about Jones being the QB for the next 10-15 years. There are lessons to be learned here.
The Rams have made a ton of dumb short-sighted decisions. Trading for Cooks and paying him was dumb. Gurley contract. Goff contract. They also went out and overpaid for a bunch of vets.
They lost a starting guard in FA as a cap casualty. Their OL is getting old and bad really quick with nothing in the pipe. They don’t have any youth to rush the passer to take some attention of Donald.
This is a similar story to what played out with the Giants under Reese except they have nothing to show for it.
There’s nothing ground breaking with the Rams brass or McVay. It won’t be long before they get their asses kicked every week just like every other team that trots weak trench players every week.
Lol what? Huge upgrade over Peters. Peters has really fallen off big time
I'll give them this, they're fun as hell to watch wheel and deal. But, they need upgrades to those positions to win it all.
I'll give them this, they're fun as hell to watch wheel and deal. But, they need upgrades to those positions to win it all.
I think they're absolutely fine at wr. Kupp, woods, and cooks is very good trio
Yet to be seen. I think the Rams will finish better than the 17th overall pick we got from CLE. Peppers was a first rounder and one of their best players on defense last season, and he's playing really good football for us right now. I think Gettleman and FO saw him as a first round worthy asset.
(and of course the 3rd round pick is > than the 4th JAX received)
They went berserk on the league with their 311 formation and didn’t come back with enough wrinkles or depth
Belichick showed that Goff can’t read defenses
Goffs offensive line are complete trash. Trash oline + can’t read defense = death
He'll make their defense a lot better.
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Here or there, means nothing with the Rams.
Maybe the new stadium might yield a 7% bump in Ram fan attendance.
A 7% bump in Rams fan attendance? I say this completely sincerely - I'd love to see what you're basing that projection on. I've been trying to accurately calculate primary/secondary demographic attendance forecasts for much of my career. I've never been able to confidently land them on an exact percentage delta.
Thanks in advance.
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Rams panicking?
Peters for Jalen...definitely an upgrade. Gotta hope a payday and living in LA vs Jax is a plus for Ramsey which hopefully limits the drama.
Payday in Jax is a lot greater than a payday in LA considering the Tax and cost of living differences (the way I see it). I don't understand the claims of "marketability" in NY or LA allowing players to make *substantially* more money when this day and age literally all marketing is digital media and has nothing to do with location.
I could be wrong, but it just seems to me like cost-of-living in LA + paying much higher taxes has much more direct affect on bank account and outweighs the "marketability" aspect of LA. I mean, it's not like Jalen Ramsey is going to be starring in some blockbuster action movie just because he's in LA.
I'm open to hearing other points of view and people proving me wrong but this is just the way I see it in 2019.
You think Eli is the face of Citizen Watch if he's the QB of, say, the Titans? Do you think he'd have made as much from Toyota if he played for the Lions?
Don't kid yourself. It may not matter as much as it used to, but TV, radio, and OOH are all still very real marketing platforms, and the market itself matters.
Paying so much money on a handful of players and trading away young, good, "cheap" players it will be difficult for them to compete in a couple of years.
Love this deal for the Jags. As long as they draft like they have in recent years and not the way they did from the early to mid 2000's all the way through the Blake Bortles, 3rd overall draft...
If Jalen isnt the best Corner in football the next 5 years... then this is a awful move by L.A... I doubt they make the playoffs this year
They went berserk on the league with their 311 formation and didn’t come back with enough wrinkles or depth
Belichick showed that Goff can’t read defenses
Goffs offensive line are complete trash. Trash oline + can’t read defense = death
He's a one read QB without a ton of mobility. An injured Cam Newton. Uh oh spaggetti-ohs.
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I'll give them this, they're fun as hell to watch wheel and deal. But, they need upgrades to those positions to win it all.
I think they're absolutely fine at wr. Kupp, woods, and cooks is very good trio
I think they'll fall short deeper in the playoffs. They're also looking like a SB hangover squad at the moment.
Bortles 2014
Fowler 2015
Ramsey 2016
Bortles 2014
Fowler 2015
Ramsey 2016
lol you just got the Schef tweet didnt you? :)
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Rams panicking?
Peters for Jalen...definitely an upgrade. Gotta hope a payday and living in LA vs Jax is a plus for Ramsey which hopefully limits the drama.
Payday in Jax is a lot greater than a payday in LA considering the Tax and cost of living differences (the way I see it). I don't understand the claims of "marketability" in NY or LA allowing players to make *substantially* more money when this day and age literally all marketing is digital media and has nothing to do with location.
I could be wrong, but it just seems to me like cost-of-living in LA + paying much higher taxes has much more direct affect on bank account and outweighs the "marketability" aspect of LA. I mean, it's not like Jalen Ramsey is going to be starring in some blockbuster action movie just because he's in LA.
I'm open to hearing other points of view and people proving me wrong but this is just the way I see it in 2019.
You think Eli is the face of Citizen Watch if he's the QB of, say, the Titans? Do you think he'd have made as much from Toyota if he played for the Lions?
Don't kid yourself. It may not matter as much as it used to, but TV, radio, and OOH are all still very real marketing platforms, and the market itself matters.
1) As a single case: Eli is a quarterback, a Manning, and won 2 super bowl MVPs. He was going to get his fair share endorsements, regardless of the team he played for. I guarantee you that.
2) Quarterbacks in particular are more often "the face of the NFL" and when you are the best in the sport THAT is when you get your endorsements, regardless of the city you live in. Peyton was never in LA or NY and he is the most marketable football player of all time. Have you noticed Baker Mayfield on EVERY SINGLE COMMERCIAL these days? And he's a crappy city with a historically crappy team. Aaron Rodgers has plenty of endorsement $. I guarantee you'll be seeing Mahomes everywhere for the next 10 years. You don't have to play in NY or LA and your point about Eli proves nothing, if you're an ultra-successful NFL QB you are going to get your endorsements, period. (As another poster said Matt Ryan made $5M in endorsements the same calendar year Eli made $7M, and Eli has accomplished way more in his career AND he's a damn Manning which is football royalty).
3) You're talking about what team a guy plays for, whereas I was mostly referring to the effect of the city they're in, which I know is going to have a lot of crossover because generally the more populated cities have more popular teams. BUT-- the Packers are a hugely marketable team despite being in an incredibly small city. If your point is just that the team a guy plays for matters to his marketability to some extent, I absolutely agree with you, but the Rams and Chargers don't have relatively huge fanbases in spite of the fact that they are in the 2nd largest city in the country. My point was simply that Jalen Ramsey being in LA/Hollywood doesn't mean a whole lot for how much money he's going to make from a marketability stand-point when compared to how much he's losing in taxes and cost-of-living by living in LA compared to Jacksonville, FL.