Really good article with some clips of Dexter's skills showcasing his effort and pass rushing acumen.
An excerpt from linked article:
For a defensive tackle class headlined by Quinnen Williams, Ed Oliver and Christian Wilkins, Lawrence has been the most impactful and dynamic interior defensive linemen from the 2019 class to date. Most importantly, Lawrence is proving his doubters wrong that he's limited and won't be able to make a difference outside of defending the run.
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Lawrence has already logged two sacks to go with 10 hurries and three quarterback hits across his first six NFL games. He’s also blocked a field goal.
We want Odell back!
With a shout out to Bartolo Colon, can we settle on "The Big Dexy?"
No, it's Dexter Lawrence.
PFF's highest graded Rookie - ( New Window )
No, it's Dexter Lawrence. PFF's highest graded Rookie - ( New Window )
I somehow have to balance thinking PFF is shit when it gives us poor grades, and taking it as gospel when it gives us good grades and not look like a hypocrite, haha.
My rant was both those guys next to each other ...different types
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Nick Bosa? Kyler Murray? Josh Allen?
No, it's Dexter Lawrence. PFF's highest graded Rookie - ( New Window )
I somehow have to balance thinking PFF is shit when it gives us poor grades, and taking it as gospel when it gives us good grades and not look like a hypocrite, haha.
PFF is shit. Their ratings have really no good time for ever being used as support or denial of a point.
Loved and mock drafted the Dex L as well, just saying
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Nick Bosa? Kyler Murray? Josh Allen?
No, it's Dexter Lawrence. PFF's highest graded Rookie - ( New Window )
I somehow have to balance thinking PFF is shit when it gives us poor grades, and taking it as gospel when it gives us good grades and not look like a hypocrite, haha.
PFF is shit. Their ratings have really no good time for ever being used as support or denial of a point.
I agree as a stand alone PFF is not especially convincing... just another voice in the crowd. But watching Dex perform has me pumped about his future and his value.
With a shout out to Bartolo Colon, can we settle on "The Big Dexy?"
That is a great nickname. I'm going with it.
No we don't as a stand alone voice, but listen to the chorus of voices that are opining on Dexter. Better yet, what do your own eyes tell you?
Production? Check
Power, Speed, Hand Play, Effort? Check
Never mind PFF... What do you say? Just curious.
I don't need PFF to tell me he's good when he's pushing around NFL olinemen like they're a shopping cart. His blocked kick was his most important play, have to give opposing ST coaches a headache.
Gettleman will REALLY shut pundits up if he actually selects well in free agency next off-season.
Well we definitely wouldn't have drafted Jones then.
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No we don't as a stand alone voice, but listen to the chorus of voices that are opining on Dexter. Better yet, what do your own eyes tell you?
Production? Check
Power, Speed, Hand Play, Effort? Check
Never mind PFF... What do you say? Just curious.
I think he's definitely exceeded expectations thus far. He's been on the field for a lot of snaps, but both he and Tomlinson have been performing at a high level. If they were getting more from Hill, who seems to be undergoing a sophomore slump, the interior of the line would be a pretty formidable unit.
Really good players usually don't become free agents (they're franchised or re-signed by their orig. team). How many great left tackles were available in spring of '18? I believe the answer is zero. Same goes for really good linebackers.
It's going to take some time to rebuild the shitty roster Reese built, but it seems pretty clear to me that we're finally heading in the right direction.
To those who think he's done such a horrible job these past 2 years, were there any great FAs that he didn't try to sign?
To those who think he's done such a horrible job these past 2 years, were there any great FAs that he didn't try to sign?
I think the youth on the team is promising, but you can’t deny his moves in free agency have been awful. Also, a lot of dead cap on the roster and if you include Eli on the bench, it totals to above 60 million. He’s been a mixed bag so far
To those who think he's done such a horrible job these past 2 years, were there any great FAs that he didn't try to sign?
And OHara and Mckenzie weren't even "good" FAs, pretty much gems. Not exactly Pouncey and Lane Johnson hitting the market. The Markus Golden of OL.
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when he was our pro personnel guy in '00s and signed FAs like Plex, O'Hara, Kareem McKenzie, et al. But those quality players aren't always available.
To those who think he's done such a horrible job these past 2 years, were there any great FAs that he didn't try to sign?
I think the youth on the team is promising, but you can’t deny his moves in free agency have been awful. Also, a lot of dead cap on the roster and if you include Eli on the bench, it totals to above 60 million. He’s been a mixed bag so far
This narrative that his free agency moves have been awful really needs to stop. 2018 wasn't so great but 2019 has been much better. The only questionable signing thus far has been Bethea. Remmers, Golden, and Tate (and even Mayo) have contributed positively.
2018 is over. Move on. He's made some good moves in FA and some bad ones, but it hasn't been "dreadful" or "awful," no matter how badly some of you want it to be true.
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when he was our pro personnel guy in '00s and signed FAs like Plex, O'Hara, Kareem McKenzie, et al. But those quality players aren't always available.
To those who think he's done such a horrible job these past 2 years, were there any great FAs that he didn't try to sign?
I think the youth on the team is promising, but you can’t deny his moves in free agency have been awful. Also, a lot of dead cap on the roster and if you include Eli on the bench, it totals to above 60 million. He’s been a mixed bag so far
This narrative that his free agency moves have been awful really needs to stop. 2018 wasn't so great but 2019 has been much better. The only questionable signing thus far has been Bethea. Remmers, Golden, and Tate (and even Mayo) have contributed positively.
2018 is over. Move on. He's made some good moves in FA and some bad ones, but it hasn't been "dreadful" or "awful," no matter how badly some of you want it to be true.
I don’t know how you could call Tate a positive signing so far, considering he got suspended, the jury’s still out. Remmers is not good either, better than what we’ve had, but still not good. Michael Thomas and Markus Golden are his best signings. Solder is awful considering his contract, Omameh was a waster, Kareem Martin a waste. Lot more bad than good, and the dead cap is significant. DG has been a mixed bag so far
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when he was our pro personnel guy in '00s and signed FAs like Plex, O'Hara, Kareem McKenzie, et al. But those quality players aren't always available.
To those who think he's done such a horrible job these past 2 years, were there any great FAs that he didn't try to sign?
I think the youth on the team is promising, but you can’t deny his moves in free agency have been awful. Also, a lot of dead cap on the roster and if you include Eli on the bench, it totals to above 60 million. He’s been a mixed bag so far
This narrative that his free agency moves have been awful really needs to stop. 2018 wasn't so great but 2019 has been much better. The only questionable signing thus far has been Bethea. Remmers, Golden, and Tate (and even Mayo) have contributed positively.
2018 is over. Move on. He's made some good moves in FA and some bad ones, but it hasn't been "dreadful" or "awful," no matter how badly some of you want it to be true.
I don’t know how you could call Tate a positive signing so far, considering he got suspended, the jury’s still out. Remmers is not good either, better than what we’ve had, but still not good. Michael Thomas and Markus Golden are his best signings. Solder is awful considering his contract, Omameh was a waster, Kareem Martin a waste. Lot more bad than good, and the dead cap is significant. DG has been a mixed bag so far
If you don't call 100 yards receiving and a TD last week a positive contribution then I don't know what to tell you. He's not Odell Beckham and if you expect that kind of production then you're delusional.
Remmers has held his own especially considering that he's on a cheap one year deal. What more do you want??? If Solder has been awful considering his contract, then Remmers has been great considering his.
Yeah Omameh was bad, but they rectified that as soon as they could with Brown.
Like I said, there have been good and bad. But it hasn't been awful overall like some want to believe. Thats a complete exaggeration made by fans who are just frustrated and choose to be obtuse.
Again, you need to look at the entire picture when trying to claim something sucks. Sure, I wish we didn't have the dead cap but if we didn't that means either we traded Beckham before signing him, or had him still on the roster, and likely still unhappy and causing issues. Instead the picks we got for him turned into Dexter Lawrence and Ximines, and allowed us to take Jones at 6 knowing we'd still get an impact player at 17.
Why aren't you talking about his Vernon trade? Didn't we get to move up and grab Baker because of it?
Its been a mixed bag but far more good than bad IMO, and that's with the cloud of what to do with Eli Manning over the teams head that last 2 years.
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when he was our pro personnel guy in '00s and signed FAs like Plex, O'Hara, Kareem McKenzie, et al. But those quality players aren't always available.
To those who think he's done such a horrible job these past 2 years, were there any great FAs that he didn't try to sign?
And OHara and Mckenzie weren't even "good" FAs, pretty much gems. Not exactly Pouncey and Lane Johnson hitting the market. The Markus Golden of OL.
McKenzie wasn't a top OL? Pretty sure they made him one of the highest paid RTs ever. Spotrac only goes back to 2011 for AAV, but in 2011 McKenzie's $5.3M AAV would've ranked 3rd among NFL RTs. He signed his deal in 2005.
When you consider how little was received for AB which had just happened, you have to again be pretty impressed with Gettleman's haul. If he had waited, it was an AB situation brewing where he'd be too toxic. The rest of the acquisitions have to be compared to hits and misses of other GMs if you're going to be fair and again, you have to say - 'ok, we pass on this guy - so who plays LT?', etc.
They were talking about where they see the NFL teams trending in the coming years. They said that teams still want 2 really good pass rushers. But rather than both rushing from the outside; they want a guy who can get pressure up the middle forcing the QB to move. And then an outside guy to chase down the QB.
The pick of Lawrence makes more sense to me now. He fits the bill of the inside pass rush guy. And those guys seem to be a lot harder to find than an outside pass rusher.
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Nick Bosa? Kyler Murray? Josh Allen?
No, it's Dexter Lawrence. PFF's highest graded Rookie - ( New Window )
I somehow have to balance thinking PFF is shit when it gives us poor grades, and taking it as gospel when it gives us good grades and not look like a hypocrite, haha.
Broken clock rule. And you don’t need their rankings. Your eyes watching that humongous man throwing people around and making an impact over and over means they are agreeing w us. Not us agreeing with them lol
Should I feel bad laughing out loud at this? Dead on sadly. . Dead may be next w his instincts. Darwin seems to have caught him twice
I mean, are you f-ckin kidding me?? The Pats "formidable" OL?!? Uh, that was last year you buffoons.
That OL is being held together with gum and paper clips. Marshall Newhouse is the LT. Their third LT plucked off the scrap heap. Andrew is IR. Wynn is IR. Froholdt is IR.
This idiocy has to end.
The real question with him is will he reach his full potential?