This is the week Shurmur has to show something ...

In comment 14630983 Reale01 said:

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One game out of first in NFC East going into game vs Jets. Pretty steep hill to climb with a loss. 5th loss requires 7-2 finish to get to 9-7.

Love your enthusiasm, but I don't believe the Giants will be "relevant" this year after two games with Philly and one more with Dallas.

I think he is a decent OC that said really
no excuses for us not to win this game none !
If we go 6-10 then I think we need to consider
a change at HC .

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We need a Head Coach, not a QB coach, Shurmur stinks, and is a horrible head coach. I do not want to move forward with him at all, crap is being accepted by Giant fans because they have seen nothing but crap for too long now.

In comment 14631110 Go Terps said:

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I think on a more macro level, given the circumstances, this game is probably going to tell you a lot about where year 2 of his program is headed. NFL coaches are usually given a year grace period to implement their methods routines, 2 years is asking a lot. Especially for a HC with Shurmur’s record.

For the simple fact that I like the idea of Bettcher's D going up against this silly college offense and Mighty Mouse Kyler Murray. The offenses that scare me going up against Bettcher are the passing attacks that can really stretch the field and easily make us pay for being overly aggressive. With the AZ offense dinking and dunking all over the place, I feel good about Bettcher's aggressive D keeping everything in front of it and closing open space quickly (when that open space is IN FRONT OF THEM, key point). I don't think Murray has the experience nor the arm (yet) to beat us deep and I think this is one of those games where Bettcher's methods will prevail and remind us why he's actually been a successful coordinator at times.

I’m not focused on wins and losses. I’m focused on the young guys their development and the direction the needle is pointing.

But in a game like this, I tend to think W/L does matter. We may not be there yet, but if we can’t beat the bad teams, we haven’t made ENOUGH progress.

It's not the one game, it's the next three, especially is Saquon is back for all three of them. I think you'll get a pretty decent picture of what is going on.

Firing a coach in Oct because he isn’t winning enough with a defense that is near bottom of league, a QB that should have been cut in the past year or so, and another QB that has a grand total of 4 career starts under his belt. Not to mention that the best player on the whole team, by far, has played in really only 2 games thus far due to injury.

You guys are chuckleheads...

In comment 14631411 Jimmy Googs said:

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Firing a coach in Oct because he isn’t winning enough with a defense that is near bottom of league, a QB that should have been cut in the past year or so, and another QB that has a grand total of 4 career starts under his belt. Not to mention that the best player on the whole team, by far, has played in really only 2 games thus far due to injury. You guys are chuckleheads...

Most people aren't advocating dumping him now - but up until now, proper evaluation of Shurmur has always had some caveats - 'it's a rebuild', 'QB's a rookie', 'Eli can't run his system', etc.

Here's a game where a lot of those challenges should be a wash. Another rebuilding team, another rookie QB, another HC who hasn't had a lot of time to implement his system. This might be the best opportunity to see what Shurmur is made of to date.

And if they play a shit game - maybe it's time to start the countdown clock on his tenure. A rebuild is dependent on a HC - if you have the wrong guy, then you're not rebuilding anything, you're just wasting time.

this week against this particular weak opponent then Shurmur shouldn't have some accountability.

But I am clearly mocking the few calling for his head Monday morning if they lose, and even the ones that are expecting a slam dunk victory. To me that sounds like too many here do not understand where this team sits in the pecking order of the NFL.

Do I think the Giants should win this sunday...yes. Slam dunk...absolutely not. Kyler Murray could run around the field all day long before one of our elite LBs or Bethea tracked him down...