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JeffAces28 : 10/16/2019 12:06 pm
is PPD tonight...7:08 start on Friday


I believe this helps the Astros
If anything, it helps  
section125 : 10/16/2019 12:07 pm : link
the Yankees.
Doesnít hurt the Yankees  
Dave in PA : 10/16/2019 12:13 pm : link
They have to face and find a way to beat Verlander/Cole no matter what. Might as well get a clear the mind and reboot day.
It dosent help the Yankees in anyway  
Dankbeerman : 10/16/2019 12:17 pm : link
They now have to fit a bullpen game in for game 4,5 or 6 while playing 4 days in a row with a starting staff that wont go more then 6 on a great day.
It's not as if they were going to skip either of Verlander or Cole  
jcn56 : 10/16/2019 12:19 pm : link
anyway. The bullpen needs a rest, and maybe Stanton can get healthy.
No game tomorrow?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/16/2019 12:19 pm : link
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RE: It dosent help the Yankees in anyway  
section125 : 10/16/2019 12:23 pm : link
In comment 14630842 Dankbeerman said:
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They now have to fit a bullpen game in for game 4,5 or 6 while playing 4 days in a row with a starting staff that wont go more then 6 on a great day.


I think it may bypass the bullpen game. Start Tanaka or Paxton tomorrow. Tanaka only threw 68 pitches and is on 4 days rest. Paxton has only thrown about 100 pitches in two weeks...
If they make it to game 7, everyone into the pool.

No idea what Boone will do. He has a good idea on these things.
RE: No game tomorrow?  
Mad Mike : 10/16/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14630845 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Huh?
RE: No game tomorrow?  
BigBlue2112 : 10/16/2019 12:26 pm : link
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Game 4 THUR Game 5 FRI
I wonder if they push the  
BIG FRED 1973 : 10/16/2019 12:32 pm : link
Saturday start time to 7 or 8 now instead of 4 since the cards and nats are done ?
RE: RE: It dosent help the Yankees in anyway  
Dankbeerman : 10/16/2019 12:34 pm : link
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They now have to fit a bullpen game in for game 4,5 or 6 while playing 4 days in a row with a starting staff that wont go more then 6 on a great day.



I think it may bypass the bullpen game. Start Tanaka or Paxton tomorrow. Tanaka only threw 68 pitches and is on 4 days rest. Paxton has only thrown about 100 pitches in two weeks...
If they make it to game 7, everyone into the pool.

No idea what Boone will do. He has a good idea on these things.


You still need a bullpen game. do you want to bullpen a game 7 after using your entire pen for 3 straight days?

They were better off bullpenning game 4 followed by what you percieve as your best chance for length in Tanaka followed by a day off.

Now you have to scramble or it could be Jay Happ and luis Cessa on the mound in an elimination game in Houston.

Houston has the advantage plus the ability to pitch Greinke and Verlander in NY and use their pen at home knowing Cole is gonna give them 7 on a bad day if it goes 7.
If they canít score more than 1 or 2 runs a game  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/16/2019 12:34 pm : link
It doesnt matter who pitches for the Yanks.

They need to beat Verlander or Cole in 1 of their 4 starts

Sun night game was a killer. Prob cost them the series.
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section125 : 10/16/2019 12:40 pm : link
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They now have to fit a bullpen game in for game 4,5 or 6 while playing 4 days in a row with a starting staff that wont go more then 6 on a great day.



I think it may bypass the bullpen game. Start Tanaka or Paxton tomorrow. Tanaka only threw 68 pitches and is on 4 days rest. Paxton has only thrown about 100 pitches in two weeks...
If they make it to game 7, everyone into the pool.

No idea what Boone will do. He has a good idea on these things.



You still need a bullpen game. do you want to bullpen a game 7 after using your entire pen for 3 straight days?

They were better off bullpenning game 4 followed by what you percieve as your best chance for length in Tanaka followed by a day off.

Now you have to scramble or it could be Jay Happ and luis Cessa on the mound in an elimination game in Houston.

Houston has the advantage plus the ability to pitch Greinke and Verlander in NY and use their pen at home knowing Cole is gonna give them 7 on a bad day if it goes 7.


Why do they need a BP game? You have to win now. The next game is the most important, not the 7th game that they may never reach if they don't win 2 of the next three.

I'm not sure that 4 days rest is enough for Tanaka, so it may be irrelevant. But what good does it do to have a BP game, then have no one available for Friday?
Greinke tomorrow  
JeffAces28 : 10/16/2019 12:45 pm : link
and Verlander Friday.

Guess they pitch Cole on short rest Saturday if Yankees win the next 2 games
RE: I wonder if they push the  
Justlurking : 10/16/2019 1:15 pm : link
In comment 14630875 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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Saturday start time to 7 or 8 now instead of 4 since the cards and nats are done ?


its an 808 start
im in the minority but this helps the yanks  
Justlurking : 10/16/2019 1:17 pm : link
1. You have to beat Greinke at the stadium. Have to.
2. I'll take my chances with Verlander at the stadium and Paxton at the stadium rather than having this matchup in Houston.
3. Game 6 is either battle of bullpens or bullpen vs. Cole on short rest. Either way, you're getting a bullpen game in houston rather than verlander.
RE: Greinke tomorrow  
Danny Kanell : 10/16/2019 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14630891 JeffAces28 said:
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and Verlander Friday.

Guess they pitch Cole on short rest Saturday if Yankees win the next 2 games


Is that official? Did they announce that?
Hinch confirmed  
Kyle in NY : 10/16/2019 1:20 pm : link
Verlander starts game 5. Have to face him eventually, rather take a shot at Yankee Stadium at least
RE: Hinch confirmed  
Danny Kanell : 10/16/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14630930 Kyle in NY said:
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Verlander starts game 5. Have to face him eventually, rather take a shot at Yankee Stadium at least


I agree. I think this is a positive for the Yankees.
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arcarsenal : 10/16/2019 1:33 pm : link
I actually like that Verlander is going in Game 5.

It means if the Yanks can manage to take the next 2, Houston will only have Cole in the chute for their two home games. Have to assume Verlander will be completely unavailable over the weekend if he pitches Friday night.

I think the 2017 script get flipped here. Yanks in 7. That's what the optimist in me believes.
simple setup  
RasputinPrime : 10/16/2019 1:46 pm : link
beat Greinke tomorrow
beat Verlander friday
beat Cole on short rest on Saturday.

I see no problem with this plan. Now execute the MFing shit out of this plan.
What I like about this is if we win the next 2  
Stu11 : 10/16/2019 2:13 pm : link
it mitigates Houston's advantage going back for 2 in Houston down but with Verlander/Cole lined up. It would probably make them go Cole game 6 on short rest allowing us to have Sevi ready for a potential game 7. Now more than ever this series is about the next 2 games.
Astros won't pitch Cole on short rest  
Chris684 : 10/16/2019 2:14 pm : link
unless they head back down 3-2.

It seems pretty likely it's

Tanaka-ZG
Paxton-Verlander
Opener/bullpen-Peacock/bullpen
Severino-Cole
Lot of baseball left.  
bceagle05 : 10/16/2019 2:15 pm : link
Just get even at all costs tomorrow.
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BleedBlue : 10/16/2019 2:33 pm : link
They can def win next two.


If they do Houston has SO much pressure.

Going back to Houston with just Cole and NEEDING two games.

Do they go Cole on short rest for game 6 or hold him til game 7. If they do Yanks can win this in 6.

They can def win the next two and if they do wow....they are in the driver's seat as Verlander will be unavailable for 6-7. The rainout helps Yanks 100%.

Do whatever you have to, get even morrow va grienke and then figure out a way to bear Verlander on Friday.

Sunday's game is looming large, holy shit if they would have pulled that out, I don't think any Yankee fan would be nervous about this series ending poorly
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Danny Kanell : 10/16/2019 2:39 pm : link
I know Verlander is great but if the Yankees can't beat Greinke and Verlander at Yankee Stadium with essentially the season on the line, then it isn't meant to be. I'm confident we can. I definitely think the rainout helped.
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Dankbeerman : 10/16/2019 2:49 pm : link
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They now have to fit a bullpen game in for game 4,5 or 6 while playing 4 days in a row with a starting staff that wont go more then 6 on a great day.



I think it may bypass the bullpen game. Start Tanaka or Paxton tomorrow. Tanaka only threw 68 pitches and is on 4 days rest. Paxton has only thrown about 100 pitches in two weeks...
If they make it to game 7, everyone into the pool.

No idea what Boone will do. He has a good idea on these things.



You still need a bullpen game. do you want to bullpen a game 7 after using your entire pen for 3 straight days?

They were better off bullpenning game 4 followed by what you percieve as your best chance for length in Tanaka followed by a day off.

Now you have to scramble or it could be Jay Happ and luis Cessa on the mound in an elimination game in Houston.

Houston has the advantage plus the ability to pitch Greinke and Verlander in NY and use their pen at home knowing Cole is gonna give them 7 on a bad day if it goes 7.



Why do they need a BP game? You have to win now. The next game is the most important, not the 7th game that they may never reach if they don't win 2 of the next three.

I'm not sure that 4 days rest is enough for Tanaka, so it may be irrelevant. But what good does it do to have a BP game, then have no one available for Friday?


Paxon gave you 2.1 innings in game 2 thats virtually the same as using an opener. Shuffle it around however you want they need a bullpen game before game 7, they cant win the seires without it going at least 6. And you cant bring Sevy back on 3 days rest he cant pitch more then 4 innings on full rest.

How about  
torrey : 10/16/2019 2:56 pm : link
Paxton game 4, he hasn't thrown much

Tanaka w extra rest vs Verlander - he is better w more rest

Force Houston to start Cole on short rest on Sat or they can hold him back and hope for a Sunday game.

Sevy vs Cole on Sun. if needed
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BleedBlue : 10/16/2019 3:05 pm : link
Gm 7 Sunday

Cole vs sevy. That could be great
RE: How about  
arcarsenal : 10/16/2019 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14631064 torrey said:
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Paxton game 4, he hasn't thrown much

Tanaka w extra rest vs Verlander - he is better w more rest

Force Houston to start Cole on short rest on Sat or they can hold him back and hope for a Sunday game.

Sevy vs Cole on Sun. if needed


Tanaka is going to go against Greinke on normal rest.

Paxton on Friday for Game 5.

A bullpen game is kind of unavoidable unless the Yanks can win the next 3. We'd have to do a BP game Saturday in Houston and then if it goes 7, it's Severino.
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arcarsenal : 10/16/2019 3:11 pm : link
A lot of it is going to depend on how the next two games go, too. I think the approach will probably vary depending on whether we go back to Houston up 3-2 or down 3-2.

I'm not even going to entertain the series ending in NY right now - I really don't believe it will.

I guess the real question is... if the Yanks are down 3-2 going back to Houston, do they go to Severino on 3 DR for Game 6?

BP game in an elimination game on the road is pretty risky business. But... I'm not sure Severino on 3 days is much less.
Haven't read all posts but anything that results in Gerrit Cole  
Jimmy Googs : 10/16/2019 3:40 pm : link
getting more rest and being able to pitch against Yankees doesn't feel like good news...
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arcarsenal : 10/16/2019 3:45 pm : link
The rainout really has no bearing on Cole. He was going to be available on 3 DR or full rest for Games 6/7 in HOU regardless. Those game dates haven't changed - we just lost the travel day.

Look, the Yankees can't win this series without beating Cole or Verlander. It's not possible. Each guy is getting 2 starts, so if we lose all of those games, we can do the math and figure out that it means NYY season over.

I expect the Stadium to be MUCH louder and raucous tomorrow night with a more normal start time. Hopefully they can rattle Greinke and Tanaka can outpitch him again.

Yanks will win tomorrow.
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BleedBlue : 10/16/2019 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14631129 arcarsenal said:
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The rainout really has no bearing on Cole. He was going to be available on 3 DR or full rest for Games 6/7 in HOU regardless. Those game dates haven't changed - we just lost the travel day.

Look, the Yankees can't win this series without beating Cole or Verlander. It's not possible. Each guy is getting 2 starts, so if we lose all of those games, we can do the math and figure out that it means NYY season over.

I expect the Stadium to be MUCH louder and raucous tomorrow night with a more normal start time. Hopefully they can rattle Greinke and Tanaka can outpitch him again.

Yanks will win tomorrow.



They def win morrow.

Friday...if you're going. Scream your lungs out. We need a fucking hostile environment for Verlander..if we win the next two, Houston has backs against the wall with only Cole for 2 games. Our startingpitching stinks regardless, but it's their strength and games 6-7 outside of the one game Cole goes, both teams will be at even playing field in terms of starting pitching. Yanks have better pen n lineup
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arcarsenal : 10/16/2019 3:55 pm : link
Houston is actually in a really bad situation if they go back home down 3-2 and can't win one of these next two games.

I'm not totally sure why Hinch is setting them up this way, but it sets them up for a potentially disastrous scenario if the Yanks beat Greinke and Verlander at home.

Because then, Houston is looking at an elimination game on Saturday. They have to throw Cole there if that's the case where he'd be on short rest after a Game 3 where he threw about 115 pitches and had traffic on the bases in more than half the innings he pitched. Verlander is now eliminated from the series entirely. He's not pitching on 0 or 1 day rest.

Say the Astros manage to beat us with Cole on short rest in Game 6.

Then what? They can't use Verlander, they can't use Cole. Greinke on short rest seems like a HUGE, spooky gamble for them.

They're looking at Urquidy or a BP game which would massively favor the Yankees.

Win the next two games and then the Astros are going to have big problems finding a way to win both games @ Minute Maid.
RE: How about  
Justlurking : 10/16/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14631064 torrey said:
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Paxton game 4, he hasn't thrown much

Tanaka w extra rest vs Verlander - he is better w more rest

Force Houston to start Cole on short rest on Sat or they can hold him back and hope for a Sunday game.

Sevy vs Cole on Sun. if needed


This is what I would have done. I am more confident in tanaka with extra rest.
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section125 : 10/16/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14631143 arcarsenal said:
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Houston is actually in a really bad situation if they go back home down 3-2 and can't win one of these next two games.

I'm not totally sure why Hinch is setting them up this way, but it sets them up for a potentially disastrous scenario if the Yanks beat Greinke and Verlander at home.

Because then, Houston is looking at an elimination game on Saturday. They have to throw Cole there if that's the case where he'd be on short rest after a Game 3 where he threw about 115 pitches and had traffic on the bases in more than half the innings he pitched. Verlander is now eliminated from the series entirely. He's not pitching on 0 or 1 day rest.

Say the Astros manage to beat us with Cole on short rest in Game 6.

Then what? They can't use Verlander, they can't use Cole. Greinke on short rest seems like a HUGE, spooky gamble for them.

They're looking at Urquidy or a BP game which would massively favor the Yankees.

Win the next two games and then the Astros are going to have big problems finding a way to win both games @ Minute Maid.


He will use anybody he has in game 7, even it is for one or two innings. He has already said this.
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BleedBlue : 10/16/2019 4:02 pm : link
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Houston is actually in a really bad situation if they go back home down 3-2 and can't win one of these next two games.

I'm not totally sure why Hinch is setting them up this way, but it sets them up for a potentially disastrous scenario if the Yanks beat Greinke and Verlander at home.

Because then, Houston is looking at an elimination game on Saturday. They have to throw Cole there if that's the case where he'd be on short rest after a Game 3 where he threw about 115 pitches and had traffic on the bases in more than half the innings he pitched. Verlander is now eliminated from the series entirely. He's not pitching on 0 or 1 day rest.

Say the Astros manage to beat us with Cole on short rest in Game 6.

Then what? They can't use Verlander, they can't use Cole. Greinke on short rest seems like a HUGE, spooky gamble for them.

They're looking at Urquidy or a BP game which would massively favor the Yankees.

Win the next two games and then the Astros are going to have big problems finding a way to win both games @ Minute Maid.



He will use anybody he has in game 7, even it is for one or two innings. He has already said this.



Still like our chances in this scenario as our pen is better. Boone just can't pull greene fucking early to get to a struggling ottavino as Greene is ppitching well and Ott isnt
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arcarsenal : 10/16/2019 4:05 pm : link
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Houston is actually in a really bad situation if they go back home down 3-2 and can't win one of these next two games.

I'm not totally sure why Hinch is setting them up this way, but it sets them up for a potentially disastrous scenario if the Yanks beat Greinke and Verlander at home.

Because then, Houston is looking at an elimination game on Saturday. They have to throw Cole there if that's the case where he'd be on short rest after a Game 3 where he threw about 115 pitches and had traffic on the bases in more than half the innings he pitched. Verlander is now eliminated from the series entirely. He's not pitching on 0 or 1 day rest.

Say the Astros manage to beat us with Cole on short rest in Game 6.

Then what? They can't use Verlander, they can't use Cole. Greinke on short rest seems like a HUGE, spooky gamble for them.

They're looking at Urquidy or a BP game which would massively favor the Yankees.

Win the next two games and then the Astros are going to have big problems finding a way to win both games @ Minute Maid.



He will use anybody he has in game 7, even it is for one or two innings. He has already said this.


He can use whoever he wants. I'm not afraid of Gerrit Cole on 0 days rest or Verlander on 2 in a Game 7. Neither of them can start that game or give them length - that's all that matters.

Verlander looked very ordinary against TB on short rest, too.

If I'm Houston, that's a very less-than-ideal scenario. Hinch is trying to avoid Urquidy or a BP game - that's why he's got Verlander going in Game 5. He thinks they can end the series with Greinke, Verlander and Cole - but if they lose games 4 and 5, all of a sudden they're in murky waters with their pitching.
RE: simple setup  
JeffAces28 : 10/16/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14630973 RasputinPrime said:
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beat Greinke tomorrow
beat Verlander friday
beat Cole on short rest on Saturday.

I see no problem with this plan. Now execute the MFing shit out of this plan.


Exactly, all about EXECUTION
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section125 : 10/16/2019 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14631158 arcarsenal said:
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He can use whoever he wants. I'm not afraid of Gerrit Cole on 0 days rest or Verlander on 2 in a Game 7. Neither of them can start that game or give them length - that's all that matters.

Verlander looked very ordinary against TB on short rest, too.

If I'm Houston, that's a very less-than-ideal scenario. Hinch is trying to avoid Urquidy or a BP game - that's why he's got Verlander going in Game 5. He thinks they can end the series with Greinke, Verlander and Cole - but if they lose games 4 and 5, all of a sudden they're in murky waters with their pitching.


Remember the Diamondbacks in 2001 with Schilling and Johnson?
I guarantee that Verlander and Cole will do what they can. Now if Cole goes deep Saturday, yeah maybe he can't go. And Greinke does not scare the Yanks, but against the bottom of the order he might be better then their pen. They have a few decent guys in their pen - James is good and that sidearm SOB is a PIA.

BTW, boy did the Nats destroy St. Louis...
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Jimmy Googs : 10/16/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14631129 arcarsenal said:
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The rainout really has no bearing on Cole. He was going to be available on 3 DR or full rest for Games 6/7 in HOU regardless. Those game dates haven't changed - we just lost the travel day.



so the rainout doesn't allow him more rest or be able to go a game earlier than possibly planned?
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arcarsenal : 10/16/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14631171 Jimmy Googs said:
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The rainout really has no bearing on Cole. He was going to be available on 3 DR or full rest for Games 6/7 in HOU regardless. Those game dates haven't changed - we just lost the travel day.





so the rainout doesn't allow him more rest or be able to go a game earlier than possibly planned?


Nope. He was going to pitch either game 6 or 7 regardless. Those game dates haven't changed. They're still Saturday and Sunday. Makes no difference as far a Cole goes.
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arcarsenal : 10/16/2019 4:29 pm : link
It only would have benefitted them if there was still a travel day. Then, Cole would have been on full rest for Game 6 and would have been on extra for a potential Game 7. But, since they nixed the Friday off day, it's basically the same thing.

As for a potential Game 7... I'd just be surprised if Hinch went back to Cole literally the next day. You have to assume he's going to go deep again in Game 6 and Hinch will want to get as much as he can out of him to win that game. How much can you really expect from Gerrit Cole a day after he throws like ~100 pitches in Postseason game?

Verlander on 2 days rest would be an option I guess... but I can't imagine he'd be able to give them many innings and who the heck knows how he'd perform when he struggled on 3 days in the DS.
Cole is pitching at the highest level in the game right now  
Jimmy Googs : 10/16/2019 4:41 pm : link
in my opinion. I expect it to continue in the short term...
What pisses  
nygnyy274 : 10/16/2019 5:32 pm : link
Me off is Boston last year beat this team 4 straight after losing game 1. They got to Cole they beat Verlander in game 5. In games 2 3 4 and 5 they scored 27 runs in those games.. the Yankee offense better wake up.
Pretty simple: bats must wake up & we need to beat Verlander/Cole once  
Leg of Theismann : 10/16/2019 5:46 pm : link
The Yankees got where they are because of their elite offense. In the non-Verlander/Cole games: don't even need anything above and beyond, no need to panic, just do what we're expected to do/capable of on offense and game 4 is easily won.

I can't see the Yanks losing any of the non-Verlander/Cole games, yet I'm incredibly nervous about the Verlander/Cole games, it's a weird feeling.

I agree I like facing Verlander at Yankees Stadium. Hopefully he'll show his age at the exact right time and we can rally for a win in game 5. Going back to Houston with the series at 3-2 adv. Yanks I think would be a done deal. Like I said any game neither Cole nor Verlander is pitching I have no doubt the Yanks win (knock on wood obviously) regardless of home or away. Therefore, the better chance we have of beating Verlander the better and that's why it's a blessing in disguise that we see him at home I believe.
RE: Cole is pitching at the highest level in the game right now  
RasputinPrime : 10/16/2019 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14631193 Jimmy Googs said:
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in my opinion. I expect it to continue in the short term...


He was damn lucky yesterday. 5 walks and some untimely hitting with RISP was his friend. We will get him next time and clinch on his "historic" ass.
The Post's Ken Davidoff  
section125 : 10/17/2019 6:41 am : link
says that Tauchman is ready to play? Said if Stanton isn't ready today, scratch him and replace him with Tauchman..

Did anybody hear that Tauchman was practicing in Tampa?
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RE: It dosent help the Yankees in anyway  
Eman11 : 10/17/2019 6:50 am : link
In comment 14630842 Dankbeerman said:
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They now have to fit a bullpen game in for game 4,5 or 6 while playing 4 days in a row with a starting staff that wont go more then 6 on a great day.


One of the ways it helps the Yanks is they'll get Verlander in the Bronx instead of the comforts of his home park.
I'll let you know Saturday if this helps or hurts.  
GiantsUA : 10/17/2019 8:23 am : link
Cliche' but true - pitching beats hitting in post season play.

I wonder where German has been watching the games - jackass.

Impulse control is a wonderful thing.
RE: I'll let you know Saturday if this helps or hurts.  
Stu11 : 10/17/2019 8:44 am : link
In comment 14631435 GiantsUA said:
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Cliche' but true - pitching beats hitting in post season play.

I wonder where German has been watching the games - jackass.

Impulse control is a wonderful thing.

Yeah this is one of those deals that we won't know till the end who it helped or hurt. One thing about the 4 straight games is Booney has prepared the pen for this all year. He didn't over use anyone and never had them pitch more than 2 straight days. Their arms are not shot. That having been said pitching anyone 4 straight days is tough. I'd rather see Verlander at the Stadium than Houston and Paxton pitched better at the Stadium so we'll see.
Having the freshest..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/17/2019 8:48 am : link
bullpen possible always favors the team with the better pen.

The task is simple in theory. Beat Grienke and Verlander and there's a massive advantage going back to Houston.

It's a much more difficult task to execute!

We need to get the bats going.
The Yankees were tremendous  
section125 : 10/17/2019 9:06 am : link
with RISP success all year. These past two games have been bad. With talented opposing pitching you can expect that and accept that. Hell the Yankees pitchers have done a very good job holding the Astros in those very same situations.

The only player continuing the RISP success is Torres. LeMahieu is at least getting on and has done some damage. And while Judge has been getting on base (.444 OBP) his only two RBIs came in the loss in Houston on the HR. Didi has 6 RBIs and 4 came on the GS vs the Twins.

The Yanks need a couple more guys to start hitting, at least with RISP.
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RE: The Yankees were tremendous  
Stu11 : 10/17/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14631472 section125 said:
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with RISP success all year. These past two games have been bad. With talented opposing pitching you can expect that and accept that. Hell the Yankees pitchers have done a very good job holding the Astros in those very same situations.

The only player continuing the RISP success is Torres. LeMahieu is at least getting on and has done some damage. And while Judge has been getting on base (.444 OBP) his only two RBIs came in the loss in Houston on the HR. Didi has 6 RBIs and 4 came on the GS vs the Twins.

The Yanks need a couple more guys to start hitting, at least with RISP. Postseason Stats - Yankees - RBI Filter - ( New Window )

Yep unlike Yanks teams of recent years this offense is not all or nothing. They have struck out less (this series included) and hit great with RISP. I think everyone is panicking but its only been 2 games. They hit fine in game 1. Lets hope they get it going tonight. I think they will.
RE: RE: The Yankees were tremendous  
section125 : 10/17/2019 9:13 am : link
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with RISP success all year. These past two games have been bad. With talented opposing pitching you can expect that and accept that. Hell the Yankees pitchers have done a very good job holding the Astros in those very same situations.

The only player continuing the RISP success is Torres. LeMahieu is at least getting on and has done some damage. And while Judge has been getting on base (.444 OBP) his only two RBIs came in the loss in Houston on the HR. Didi has 6 RBIs and 4 came on the GS vs the Twins.

The Yanks need a couple more guys to start hitting, at least with RISP. Postseason Stats - Yankees - RBI Filter - ( New Window )


Yep unlike Yanks teams of recent years this offense is not all or nothing. They have struck out less (this series included) and hit great with RISP. I think everyone is panicking but its only been 2 games. They hit fine in game 1. Lets hope they get it going tonight. I think they will.


And Stu, they did not even do poorly against Verlander and Cole. They were not dominated. Plenty of traffic. Those were not easy wins for Houston.
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rnargi : 10/17/2019 10:40 am : link
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with RISP success all year. These past two games have been bad. With talented opposing pitching you can expect that and accept that. Hell the Yankees pitchers have done a very good job holding the Astros in those very same situations.

The only player continuing the RISP success is Torres. LeMahieu is at least getting on and has done some damage. And while Judge has been getting on base (.444 OBP) his only two RBIs came in the loss in Houston on the HR. Didi has 6 RBIs and 4 came on the GS vs the Twins.

The Yanks need a couple more guys to start hitting, at least with RISP. Postseason Stats - Yankees - RBI Filter - ( New Window )


Yep unlike Yanks teams of recent years this offense is not all or nothing. They have struck out less (this series included) and hit great with RISP. I think everyone is panicking but its only been 2 games. They hit fine in game 1. Lets hope they get it going tonight. I think they will.



And Stu, they did not even do poorly against Verlander and Cole. They were not dominated. Plenty of traffic. Those were not easy wins for Houston.


I don't really know what the problem is, but stats are stats so let's look at them. They're striking out 25% of all at bats. 30 out of 120. That, to me, is a lot. They've scored 10 runs, and 6 have come via the home run. Of their 24 hits, 6 have been HRs. Again, 25%. Most of the 'rallys' began with two outs and no one on the other night. They could not find that elusive 2 out hit with RISP. Speaking of RISP, they never put any pressure whatsoever on the HOU def with thier baserunning. None. Station to station baseball without even going first to third on many of the hits. Collectively, they are hitting .220 for the series with a 320 OBP. They have FIVE starters batting below 185. Three batting below 100. They've had 11 total walks, but way too many hitters are not working counts and helping to get pitch counts up. Some are.

Seens to me, it doesn't matter WHO pitches for the Yanks if the bats don't wake up. They haven't scored a run other than by a HR over the past two games. So it seems to me we will live and die by the HR this series. 3 solo shots in the first game and they won, 1 HR in each of the last two games and they lost.

Hope the power switch gets turned back on tonight.
RE: RE: RE: The Yankees were tremendous  
Stu11 : 10/17/2019 10:51 am : link
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with RISP success all year. These past two games have been bad. With talented opposing pitching you can expect that and accept that. Hell the Yankees pitchers have done a very good job holding the Astros in those very same situations.

The only player continuing the RISP success is Torres. LeMahieu is at least getting on and has done some damage. And while Judge has been getting on base (.444 OBP) his only two RBIs came in the loss in Houston on the HR. Didi has 6 RBIs and 4 came on the GS vs the Twins.

The Yanks need a couple more guys to start hitting, at least with RISP. Postseason Stats - Yankees - RBI Filter - ( New Window )


Yep unlike Yanks teams of recent years this offense is not all or nothing. They have struck out less (this series included) and hit great with RISP. I think everyone is panicking but its only been 2 games. They hit fine in game 1. Lets hope they get it going tonight. I think they will.



And Stu, they did not even do poorly against Verlander and Cole. They were not dominated. Plenty of traffic. Those were not easy wins for Houston.

Absolutely. 2 years ago we didn't get a sniff off Verlander, Sunday night we battled him and had a lot more hard contact and less swing an misses than in the past. Cole less so. For all the talk about how we got to him, we were patient, drew walks, didn't expand the zone and made contact but except for Didi's long fly ball we didn't have a ton of hard contact and didn't have good ab's at all with RISP.
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arcarsenal : 10/17/2019 11:06 am : link
The only thing missing has been that one big clutch hit with RISP the last two games....

I think the bats come alive tonight. We'll win this game.
RE: RE: Cole is pitching at the highest level in the game right now  
Jimmy Googs : 10/17/2019 11:12 am : link
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in my opinion. I expect it to continue in the short term...



He was damn lucky yesterday. 5 walks and some untimely hitting with RISP was his friend. We will get him next time and clinch on his "historic" ass.


The walks were clearly a Yankee strategy not luck whatsoever. And the untimely RISP wasn't untimely at all as Cole is second in the entire league in batting avg against at a microscopic 0.186 clip
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