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Showing Daniel Jones as a running threat

Jim from Katonah : 10/16/2019 2:03 pm
With the receivers struggling to get any separation and no SB/EE, I was a little surprised that the Giants didnít call any designed runs for DJ v the Pats. I wouldnít necessarily say that DJ has elite quickness/burst, but he has excellent long speed. You could see it on his first TD run v Tampa (18.5mph) and he showed it many times in college (like when he ran for 150 yards v UNC).

I think 3 or 4 well-thought out and lowered risk running calls per game (utilizing the sidelines to avoid hits/instructing him to slide and not take on tacklers) for DJ might have a big impact ó not just in getting a few crucial first downs but in keeping the defense honest.

I see DJís speed as a critical part of his skillset, something that might separate him from a Rosen or Haskins. DJ doesnít seem to have freakish arm talent or the ability to move and throw from multiple angles like the great pocket passers ... so in order for him to max out his effectiveness, I think running needs to bigger part of his game than it was the last 2 games (5 rushes for 20).
I agree, thought they should have done that vs. Minnesota  
No Where Man : 10/16/2019 2:05 pm : link
when we got into the Red Zone.
Iíd rather we donít expose our  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/16/2019 2:06 pm : link
New young developing QB to running extensively. We donít need him getting injured in a growing year.
they did have him do some fake runs  
giants#1 : 10/16/2019 2:07 pm : link
after handing it off, at least against the Pats. My guess is that the in-game film review showed the Pats edge defenders weren't crashing hard and thus DJ keeping it wouldn't have been very successful.

Getting SB (or even Gallman) back could certainly change that. No real need to crash the running lanes with Hilliman/Penny as the lead RBs.
RE: Iíd rather we donít expose our  
Jim from Katonah : 10/16/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14630999 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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New young developing QB to running extensively. We donít need him getting injured in a growing year.


Maybe thatís right, still rebuilding. But I think that long-term, running should be part of the package. Not talking about Lamar Jackson or anything ... but 3 to 5 designed runs might have a big impact.
Watching Little Bill's little film review show  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/16/2019 2:56 pm : link
seemed clearly fixated by DJ8's mobility and was going to take that away. Easy enough to stymie Giants O that day, rush contain 4 and drop 7 into coverage.
Credit the vikings  
Big_N : 10/16/2019 4:31 pm : link
They figured out he would want to run on 3rd down so the ILB delayed blitz took that away from dj.

Pats saw it and did it too with also very disciplined rushing lanes.

What are guys blowing up Hillman for? sure there was the fumble but he didn't do it on a run and he got pretty good yardage at like 4 a carry ; that is not bad.
RE: they did have him do some fake runs  
gmen9892 : 10/16/2019 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14631001 giants#1 said:
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after handing it off, at least against the Pats. My guess is that the in-game film review showed the Pats edge defenders weren't crashing hard and thus DJ keeping it wouldn't have been very successful.

Getting SB (or even Gallman) back could certainly change that. No real need to crash the running lanes with Hilliman/Penny as the lead RBs.


Agreed. I think that with Barkley as a monster threat back there now, the running lanes for DJ will be there. May not have been there these past few games without any threat of a home run hitter in the backfield.
I've noticed the last couple of games  
Tim in VA : 10/16/2019 4:44 pm : link
Teams seem prepared for the run threat and are taking away his lanes. I don't think he's good enough a runner for us to try to design running plays, but it is nice to know he can get some yards if a lane opens up.
With SB back  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/16/2019 6:06 pm : link
We should be able to get DJ8 running back into the game with designed rollouts. Hell with SB even lead footed Eli was effective in the rollouts, which was shocking, terrified Ds have to keep honest on a potential SB run.
RE: RE: Iíd rather we donít expose our  
gmenatlarge : 10/16/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14631025 Jim from Katonah said:
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In comment 14630999 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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New young developing QB to running extensively. We donít need him getting injured in a growing year.



Maybe thatís right, still rebuilding. But I think that long-term, running should be part of the package. Not talking about Lamar Jackson or anything ... but 3 to 5 designed runs might have a big impact.


Canít agree, no more ďwait til next yearĒ, time for Mr Jones to learn how to be an NFL QB and how to extend drives and win fucking games! I am not saying we run him ragged but a few select run plays with a pass option should not be a big problem.
RE: With SB back  
NikkiMac : 10/17/2019 10:32 am : link
In comment 14631245 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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We should be able to get DJ8 running back into the game with designed rollouts. Hell with SB even lead footed Eli was effective in the rollouts, which was shocking, terrified Ds have to keep honest on a potential SB run.


Coach if you go over the giants film regarding rolling out right it has been a disaster since Macadoo very rarely is the play successful doesnít matter who is involved .... I think itís starting to get better with Jones .....
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