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Jenkins Trade Value

djstat : 10/16/2019 2:30 pm
I have seen a lot of people mentioning JJ and trade value. I am curious what people think he is really worth. IMO not much. He had poor seasons in 2017/2018. He got absolutely abused by Mike Evans this year. Has a weekly salary of $597,058.

So let's say he is traded next week. He is owed 10 game checks with a cap number of $5,970,588. He has a $10.15 Million base salary in 2020 so a trading team has to be willing to part with a draft pick for a 10 game rental or be willing to take on a $10 Million cap hit for a guy who has been great since 2016.

I am curious what do you think he would reasonably get?
I mentioned it before....with hot corner market  
George from PA : 10/16/2019 2:35 pm : link
A late 3rd....or 4th
Probably not enough to warrant the trade  
JonC : 10/16/2019 2:35 pm : link
unless DG is ready to Snacks him.
If you get a good deal, like a 3rd or higher than fine  
Mike from Ohio : 10/16/2019 2:39 pm : link
but at some point you can't just keep selling everyone who gets you a pick. The guys in the locker room are human and at some point they start to ask themselves if the team is really trying to win games this year. They are one game out of first, no matter how unlikely a playoff run is. While they are still alive hang onto him unless you are blown away by an offer.
RE: Probably not enough to warrant the trade  
AcidTest : 10/16/2019 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14631036 JonC said:
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unless DG is ready to Snacks him.


I'd trade him for a fifth. He's erratic, expensive, and we're not going anywhere this year anyway.
A third would do it for me  
Rudy5757 : 10/16/2019 3:01 pm : link
anything less I would just keep him. Even if he is not the best, the dead money cost is worth keeping him. Its not like he is terrible, he is still our #1 guy. Baker as our #1 scares me and until beal shows something we have little to nothing else. If Ballentine were the answer i believe he would be getting more PT. He's not ready.
RE: If you get a good deal, like a 3rd or higher than fine  
Bluesbreaker : 10/16/2019 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14631041 Mike from Ohio said:
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but at some point you can't just keep selling everyone who gets you a pick. The guys in the locker room are human and at some point they start to ask themselves if the team is really trying to win games this year. They are one game out of first, no matter how unlikely a playoff run is. While they are still alive hang onto him unless you are blown away by an offer.

Agree Mike thats part of the problem say what you will but
we are still very much in this thing we are still playing
to win . Its a tough spot but someone gives you a 3rd
round pick and helps your cap space hard to say no.
We also have Beal ready to start practicing with
Love Ballentine and Beal all need to see some time
at CB slot and possibly FS
Marcus Peters  
AcesUp : 10/16/2019 3:11 pm : link
A player with similar highs and lows, is about five years younger and netted a 5th + depth player. Jenkins is probably worth a 5 but isn't a guy I would look to trade unless they drop the next two.
His $ cost  
JonC : 10/16/2019 3:14 pm : link
will make it tough to get a #3 for him, agree.
Why do we want to trade Jenkins  
Tim in VA : 10/16/2019 3:21 pm : link
Because Beal is cleared for practice? Someone enlighten me.
There's not a great reason to trade him  
JonC : 10/16/2019 3:23 pm : link
except to clear cap space.

Don't focus too much on 2019.
RE: If you get a good deal, like a 3rd or higher than fine  
Big Blue '56 : 10/16/2019 3:25 pm : link
In comment 14631041 Mike from Ohio said:
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but at some point you can't just keep selling everyone who gets you a pick. The guys in the locker room are human and at some point they start to ask themselves if the team is really trying to win games this year. They are one game out of first, no matter how unlikely a playoff run is. While they are still alive hang onto him unless you are blown away by an offer.


This
Jenkins  
ryanmkeane : 10/16/2019 3:25 pm : link
is a solid corner and doesn't get paid a ridiculous cap number. I'd keep him if the goal is to be a serious playoff contender in 2020.
RE: Marcus Peters  
giants#1 : 10/16/2019 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14631079 AcesUp said:
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A player with similar highs and lows, is about five years younger and netted a 5th + depth player. Jenkins is probably worth a 5 but isn't a guy I would look to trade unless they drop the next two.


Jenkins has an extra year remaining on his deal which at ~$10.5M is relatively cheap for a CB. I think that increases his value slightly relative to Peters who's a 10 game rental at this point.
Giants would still be eating dead cap space if they trade Jenkins  
kdog77 : 10/16/2019 3:38 pm : link
I don't think the Giants can get a 5th rounder for Jenkins considering Peters has similar stats and fewer years in the NFL. Over The Cap shows that trading Jenkins would result in $3.5M dead money in 2019 and $3.5M dead money in 2020 with a net gain of $11.25M in 2020 and whatever the rest of his base salary is this year.

I don't think it makes any sense for a Defense that struggles to get off the field to trade Jenkins unless Giants want to get Ballantine and Love more snaps on the this year for development purposes. I would rather keep him at this point.
It depends upon how much value they have behind him  
JohnB : 10/16/2019 3:43 pm : link
Who can take his place?

Look at the Snacks trade, they thought that they could live without Snacks because who was behind him.

If DG thinks there is quality behind JJ, I'd say trade him. If they are unsure, keep him.
RE: If you get a good deal, like a 3rd or higher than fine  
Milton : 10/16/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14631041 Mike from Ohio said:
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They are one game out of first, no matter how unlikely a playoff run is.
There is nothing unlikely about a playoff run.
Ask christian  
Jimmy Googs : 10/16/2019 4:21 pm : link
...
RE: If you get a good deal, like a 3rd or higher than fine  
Beezer : 10/16/2019 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14631041 Mike from Ohio said:
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but at some point you can't just keep selling everyone who gets you a pick. The guys in the locker room are human and at some point they start to ask themselves if the team is really trying to win games this year. They are one game out of first, no matter how unlikely a playoff run is. While they are still alive hang onto him unless you are blown away by an offer.


Agree completely Mike. It's unlikely, but at 0-2 and things looking bleak, no chance anyone here saw even THIS bit up upside after 6 games (ESPECIALLY with all the significant injuries).

Win this weekend and we're tied with Dallas or Philly.

No one, I repeat NOFRIGGINBODY saw that coming.
Don't we already  
Tim in VA : 10/16/2019 4:42 pm : link
have like 300 billion in cap space next year anyway?

Keep him. Stud corners are hard to find. He had a terrible game against TB but seemed to return to himself since.
is there a contender  
AndyMilligan : 10/16/2019 4:44 pm : link
that is one good corner away from leaping into SB contender status? I would think you'll get a third for him from such a team..
RE: Probably not enough to warrant the trade  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 10/16/2019 6:28 pm : link
In comment 14631036 JonC said:
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unless DG is ready to Snacks him.


This.

Trading him doesn't make a lot of sense unless there is something behind the scenes which there doesn't appear to be.
The team had ONE  
fkap : 10/16/2019 8:29 pm : link
good game.

Playoffs? Don't talk to me about playoffs!

I doubt we'd get much of a pick, but the cap relief would be nice.

Do it IF he's not in the plans for next year.
A 5th  
BigBluesman : 10/16/2019 10:05 pm : link
at best. These kind of trades were okay last year, but as someone already pointed out, it has to end eventually. Every veteran with any value left shouldn't be looking over their shoulder expecting to be traded.
I would have said no to trading JJ in 2019  
Leg of Theismann : 10/17/2019 2:04 am : link
at the beginning of the season, simply because I've always liked him as a player. But he has had a really bad year this year, way too many huge plays given up and bad penalties all at the worst times in games. Now if we can get a 3rd or a 4th for him I say we send him packing ASAP.

Especially with Beal coming back for the 2nd half of the season.

JJ literally can't cover worth shit anymore. I don't know what happened. Is he just slowing down with age? Did he get lazy with his conditioning and practice?

I have no idea but I'd love to get him and his contract out of here, bring in another young and hungry "diamond in the rough" in the draft that DG seems to be good at finding.

Hopefully Baker, Beal, Ballentine, and Love can step up and progress quickly. I mean I assumed the reason DG drafted all these guys is because he planned on getting rid of Jackrabbit sooner rather than later, right? Didn't we all think that?
They are going to need him  
stoneman : 10/17/2019 8:16 am : link
for their super bowl run this year - one game out baby :)
IF I wanted to trade him, I wouldn't want draft picks  
David B. : 10/17/2019 8:24 am : link
The best you'd probably get is a 4th rounder.

I'd rather try to trade him for a starting LB of similar quality.
The best you would get is a 4rth imo  
short lease : 10/17/2019 8:37 am : link
but, I wouldn't be surprised (if they do trade him) ... they get/take a 5th.

He is 31 years old.

The Eagles  
WillVAB : 10/17/2019 10:24 am : link
If the Giants blow it the next two weeks Id trade him to Philly before the deadline. At that point it will pretty much be over and Philly needs CB help in the worst way. They would be the potential partner that would give up the most for Jenkins.
A lot of fans are placing too much hope on the 2019 Giants, imv  
JonC : 10/17/2019 10:27 am : link
and there's plenty of reason to let him go if he's not viewed as core moving forward.
I suspect  
Harvest Blend : 10/17/2019 10:45 am : link
he'll be traded before the deadline for a late 4th. Seems to be DG's MO and would be a smart move, imo.
Or perhaps  
Harvest Blend : 10/17/2019 10:46 am : link
a late 5th. Either way a smart move.
RE: A lot of fans are placing too much hope on the 2019 Giants, imv  
AcesUp : 10/17/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14631522 JonC said:
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and there's plenty of reason to let him go if he's not viewed as core moving forward.


I agree with this in principle but we're only 1 game out. I don't have any playoff expectations and deep down, the Giants may not either, but the Giants are playing in an underperforming and vulnerable division...they're still right in the mix so 2019 carries SOME consideration with Jenkins in Week 7.
Would the 2019 Giants making  
Ron Johnson : 10/17/2019 11:18 am : link
the playoffs be the strangest occurrence you've ever seen in the NFL? It's not even close.

For a team trying to 'fix' their culture the one thing they cannot do is quit on the season.

Trading Jackrabbit is NOT an option.
Since Jenkins  
Carson53 : 10/17/2019 11:38 am : link
is owed over 11 mill. next year, don't think the Giants
would get more than a 5th rd. pick.
If they don't trade him just move on from this mercurial
player after this season, 3.5 mill. in dead money,
about 8.5 in savings. He is not part of the solution moving forward.
RE: RE: A lot of fans are placing too much hope on the 2019 Giants, imv  
JonC : 10/17/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14631543 AcesUp said:
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In comment 14631522 JonC said:


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and there's plenty of reason to let him go if he's not viewed as core moving forward.



I agree with this in principle but we're only 1 game out. I don't have any playoff expectations and deep down, the Giants may not either, but the Giants are playing in an underperforming and vulnerable division...they're still right in the mix so 2019 carries SOME consideration with Jenkins in Week 7.


I get it and DG might agree on the surface because it sends the right message and sells seats, merch, etc.

But, this team is looking hard pressed to win 6 unless they somehow catch lightening in bottle. They've got talent issues at key spots, and what looks like an overmatched coach and staff.
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