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NFT: Mets to pass on Girardi?

DanMetroMan : 10/18/2019 10:14 am
Matt Breen of the Philadelphia Inquirer reports the finalists for the Philadelphia Phillies managerial job are Dusty Baker, Joe Girardi, and Buck Showalter. Of the three, Girardi and Showalter are perceived to be the favorites to land the job.

If the Mets truly want Girardi, that means the team will have to act quickly as the Phillies are expected to make their decision next week.

On that front, in recent years, the Phillies interest has previously led the Mets to act quickly. In 2017, the Mets hired Mickey Callaway, who was highly coveted by the Phillies, after just one interview. This past offseason, the Mets admitted to including Jarred Kelenic in the trade with the Mariners to keep Edwin Diaz from going to Philadelphia.

While the Mets have acted quickly on Callaway and Diaz, we should not expect the same now with Girardi as Rich Mancuso of NY Sports Day reports that Girardi is not expected to be the Mets’ next manager.

With the Mets likely out on Girardi, that leaves Tim Bogar as the sole known managerial candidate the team has interviewed with any Major League experience. And Bogar’s experience is not that extensive as he only managed 22 games for the Texas Rangers at the end of the 2014 season.
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Last 4 managers have all been below average  
Vanzetti : 10/18/2019 3:33 pm : link
Willie and Mickey both had potential but lacked experience

Jerry and Terry were just reruns. They already had opportunities and did nothing. For his career, Terry made the postseason twice in thirteen years. .495 winning pct. The epitome of mediocre

Go further back, Booby V was smart but a total nut. Dallas Green was over the hill and Jeff Torborg was pitiful. You have to go back to Davey Johnson to find a good manager and he was a total alcoholic.

It will be interesting to see if Brodie can get the Wilson’s to change their losing way of hiring managers.



RE: Per Joel Sherman on Twitter  
Vanzetti : 10/18/2019 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14632852 Aaron Thomas said:
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@Joelsherman1

#Padres coach Skip Schumaker has indeed already interviewed for #Mets managerial opening.
@dennistlin

1st. Schumaker was repped as a player by CAA, Van Wagenen’s old agency.


No more second basemen as manager. Generally catchers seem to make the best managers because they understand both hitting and pitching. Girardi Torre and Bochy were all catchers
RE: 'Terry Collins has been to more world series than Buck Showalter'  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2019 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14632844 Torrag said:
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I don't want to hire Showalter but collins couldn't out manage him if his life depended on it.


based on what? some of you have this mental image of what a baseball manager does.

this isn't Bill Belichick we're talking about. baseball manager can directly impact very few games. Not suggesting to shit can the search because those few games they directly impact can mean the difference between playoffs or not, but comments like this one about Showalter are an example of talking out of your ass.

Has a showalter team ever won a post-season series?

in 20 years of managing?
RE: I want Beltran.  
jpkmets : 10/18/2019 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14632802 moze1021 said:
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I think I'm in the minority on that.


I’m on that wagon as well. Really thoughtful guy. Will be a commanding presence. Girardi is my second choice.
Keith  
DanMetroMan : 10/18/2019 3:53 pm : link
Law said he's never heard a single negative comment in regard to Carlos Beltran and Beltran has been a known commodity for nearly 2 decades.
RE: Keith  
Chris684 : 10/18/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14632872 DanMetroMan said:
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Law said he's never heard a single negative comment in regard to Carlos Beltran and Beltran has been a known commodity for nearly 2 decades.


Interesting.

With Girardi a pipe dream, really hoping for Beltran.
RE: Keith  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14632872 DanMetroMan said:
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Law said he's never heard a single negative comment in regard to Carlos Beltran and Beltran has been a known commodity for nearly 2 decades.



Mets fan twitter has plenty of negative Beltran comments. Just ask him, he admits it and says it took him a while to get over the comments.
I’m on the fence with Beltran  
Vanzetti : 10/18/2019 4:01 pm : link
One of the most well liked men in baseball. But completely lacks experience.

Managing the pen is so crucial today that it is hard to learn on the job


Also, what happens when Cano or Cespedes need to be benched? Will Carlos be able to do that?
Guys who were recently retired players generally favor aging vets over younger players. Is that what we want for Mets?
Mets  
TyreeHelmet : 10/18/2019 5:05 pm : link
Interviewing the Padres 1st base coach. I'm sure he's a better candidate and gives them a better chance to win than Showalter or Girardi....
RE: Last 4 managers have all been below average  
JayBinQueens : 10/18/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14632856 Vanzetti said:
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You have to go back to Davey Johnson to find a good manager and he was a total alcoholic.


Well, at least whoever gets hired knows what it'll take/cost to work for the Wilpons
Mookie Wilson  
giantsFC : 10/19/2019 4:22 am : link
You heard it hear first.

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