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Defenderdawg : 10/18/2019 10:40 am

Salomone Giants vs. Cardinals: 3 Keys to Victory

Eisen Scouting Report: Eye on Giants vs. Cardinals


Eisen Coach's Corner: Giants vs. Cardinals Preview


Leonard NYDN: Giants, Daniel Jones agree on winning strategy ... rookie QB needs to make better decisions

Slater As Giants rave about Daniel Jones’ increased vocal leadership after 4 starts, here are next big steps he must take to become a star

Duggan The Athletic: Why do the Giants value Alex Tanney so much? Eli Manning, Daniel Jones and others explain


Eisen RB Saquon Barkley has 'no doubt' about ankle

Traina ‘No Doubt’ New York Giants’ Saquon Barkley Sounds Ready To Return


Pflum SI Giantsmaven: Film Study: How the Giants Defense Can Keep Pace with the Cardinals' Use of "10 Personnel"


Citak PFF: Dexter Lawrence highest-graded NFL rookie


Serby NYP: Giants set to unleash ‘J.Y.D.’ Markus Golden on his old team


Braziller NYP: Giants’ Jabrill Peppers gives blunt take on his own game


Corry CBS Sports: What the year of the backup quarterback will do to Marcus Mariota and others looking to get paid in 2020

Farmer LA Times: Young quarterbacks are taking over the NFL. What’s fueling the phenomenon?

“There have been 77 games this season featuring at least one starting quarterback age 26 or younger, the most at this point in NFL history. The 54 games started and won by quarterbacks in that age bracket is the most since at least the 1970 merger between the AFL and NFL.

So why are young quarterbacks, even unheralded ones, so prepared to launch these surgical strikes?
Is it superior training? Simplified playbooks? Handcuffed defenses? The influence of college football on the pros?
Maybe all of those factors.
“This isn’t a get-off-my-lawn situation, and I’m not saying the old days were better,” said Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young, now a “Monday Night Football” analyst. “These are just the facts: I remember thinking when I was at BYU that everyone was open. No one was ever covered. You just throw the ball. Then I went pro, and no one’s open. I mean no one.
“I remember saying to my coach [Bill Walsh of the San Francisco 49ers], `Bill, no one’s open.’ He’s like, `Bro, no one is ever going to be open. You’ve got to figure it out.’
“I’m watching the Rams and the Chiefs, I go Monday nights and I watch every team. Yards are so much cheaper now. People are open.”
There are multiple reasons why. A big one is that rules put in place to protect the quarterback and defenseless receivers have changed the nature of defenses and made the middle of the field a safer place to operate. If there’s a headhunter lurking in that neighborhood now, there will be a FedEx envelope with a hefty fine waiting at his locker next week.

“I think most of those quarterbacks [of years past] would say this is probably the easiest era to play quarterback, in terms of how much they protect the quarterback from being hit,” 49ers cornerback Richard Sherman said. “They give automatic first downs for just about any penalty on defense. Anytime you touch the quarterback, you can graze the facemask with your hand and that’s a 15-yard penalty and automatic first down.
“On top of that, the protections that receivers and defenseless players have, they don’t have to be scared if it’s a jump ball.
“Those guys had to deal with the NFL when it was a man’s game. Now, guys can’t lay on you. Then, they could lay into you. There were no protections. There was roughing the passer if you got there late or it was egregious, but for the most part they had to take a beating and still go out there and execute.”
Of course, the league has good reasons to implement the safety rules. The collisions are increasingly violent as players get bigger and faster, and head injuries can have catastrophic effects. But the rules also have created a halo around offensive players.
“It’s making it almost impossible to play defense,” Sherman said. “Now, you just have to have defenders out on the field, doing the best that they can. But at any given time, and on any given play, the officials are going to get involved. Even on a play that looks like a clean one, there’s a penalty. That’s why guys are more open.”
Fox analyst Troy Aikman points to the influence of the college game on the NFL as a reason quarterbacks are able to transition to the pros so seamlessly.
“I thought there was a time when the NFL influenced what was happening in college,” said Aikman, who spent his Hall of Fame career with the Dallas Cowboys. “Now, it’s other way around. The college game is affecting and impacting what’s happening in the NFL.”

That includes run-pass options, or RPOs, when a quarterback makes the decision to either run or throw in a play designed with options for both. That came from college football, and every NFL team has a version of the concept.
“If you get a guy that has a pretty good offensive line and a good back, they can play fake and the first guy is open,” Young said. “Just like in college. In that way, the league has figured out a way to make the space available for a lot more quarterbacks to be good — and faster.

“With backups, you’ve got 64 guys, and back in the day you had 10 guys who could play. Now, Kyler Murray, because it’s more college-like, can be the No. 1 pick at 5 feet 8.”
The NFL is filled with young offensive-minded head coaches who specialize in quarterbacks — among them Sean McVay (Rams), Kliff Kingsbury (Cardinals), Matt Nagy (Chicago), Matt LaFleur (Green Bay), and Zac Taylor (Cincinnati) — and that helps young players in making the transition. For instance, Kingsbury imported a lot of the same terms and playbook language Murray had in college.
“Coming from where he was at, Texas A& M and then Oklahoma where they give him that freedom, there’s a comfort level that he’s had with that,” Kingsbury said. “Coming from similar systems and having that attacking mindset, if you see a better play, get us into it. He’s been comfortable from day one. In the spring, he was checking plays that I don’t even think our guys knew. He’s just very confident in that approach.”
Murray chose the NFL over Major League Baseball. But there are a lot of quarterbacks these days who work year-round on one sport, and a singular discipline. It wasn’t always that way.
“These quarterbacks get a lot more reps leading into college, then throughout college, than I ever did,” Aikman said. “I equate it to when my girls were young they played soccer. Then in the winter, they played indoor soccer. The indoor soccer fields were smaller and there were fewer girls playing on a side, so everyone got more touches. And their foot skills and ball-control skills improved immensely.
“I think the same thing happens with quarterbacks. There’s a comfort level now.”
Before the Giants played on Thursday night last week, Aikman met with their rookie quarterback — nicknamed “Danny Dimes” for his accurate deep passes — and asked what were the toughest parts of making the move up.

“I said, ‘I know what it was like for me when I came into the league 30 years ago. Sometimes I didn’t even know what the hell I was looking at. You just drop back and act like you’re reading defenses, then you take off scrambling,’ ” said the former No. 1 overall pick from UCLA.
“He said, ‘Yeah, it’s a little different.’ But the biggest difference for him is he had never taken a snap from under center in high school or college. … Short of that, for the most part, it was not so foreign for him as it was for me.”
Under the previous collective bargaining agreement, coaches had much more time to work with their players during the season and offseason. The current CBA allows for more practice time for rookies than veterans, but there are still strict limits. By necessity, then, playbooks have to be simplified. That too eases the transition for inexperienced players.
“It can’t be as sophisticated,” Young said. “You just don’t have the time to do it. It’s not like people aren’t smart or they don’t have the desire. It’s that they don’t have the time anymore.
“So coaches tend to capitulate. ‘Let’s put some things together. We’ll be really good at four things, and off we go.’ That’s exactly what college does. So the game has become more college-like.”
The game might be simpler now in some respects, but the expectations are absurdly high as are the pressures. Spend some time on Twitter and see.
“We try to draw conclusions, definitive statements on quarterbacks, two or three games into their careers,” Aikman said. “Forget a season, which was unheard of before.
“I say it all the time: If the evaluations were as immediate as they are now, I wouldn’t have made it. Shoot, Terry Bradshaw wouldn’t have made it. Peyton Manning might not have made it; his rookie year he led the league in interceptions.
“The scrutiny is unbelievable. Teams feel like they need to declare much sooner, ‘Is this our guy or not our guy? Because we’re building this whole thing about him. We can’t get this wrong.’ So there’s a lot of pressure on these guys. I do feel there needs to be a little bit of a grace period.”
Back in the 1990s, and as recently as a decade ago, there was a lot of hand wringing in league circles that there weren’t enough good quarterbacks to go around. That talk has largely dwindled as the wave of young players has swelled.
“This is the best news in the world for the league, because what the league desperately needed was quarterbacks,” Young said. “The game is being made for more good quarterbacks. There’s going to be 25 guys, 30 even. Maybe every team will have a decent quarterback.”
Nonetheless, there’s a long way from decent to great.
“The sophistication that’s needed to be great is still out there as a challenge,” Young said. “The entry level — because of safety, because no one’s patrolling the middle of the field, because the game’s more college-like, because players can’t spend time with coaches anymore — it’s allowed more entry-level guys.
“But I still believe to be great, it’s still an Everest climb. If you’re going to be in the handful of Hall of Fame guys, the rigor is still out there.”

Odegard Kyler Murray Hits The Ground After Running

“As Kingsbury studied Murray’s movements, he noticed something that brought comfort: the diminutive signal-caller hardly ever took mammoth hits from defenders.
“That was one of the reasons we were so sure on him being able to play at this level,” Kingsbury said. “His entire life he’s played that way. You can watch him in high school, and he didn’t take the vicious hits. You watch him in college, and he didn’t take any. And he’s finding ways to avoid it now.”
Murray has evaded contact so well this season that it was jarring to see him knocked backward on Sunday by Falcons cornerback Isaiah Oliver. That was a clear outlier, as it’s tough to remember another significant hit through the first six games of his NFL career.
“I think it’s just having that feel on the field,” Murray said. “I’ve never wanted to be hit by anybody. I always try to score, or be safe (and) get down.”

Odegard Patrick Peterson’s Presence Could Return Vance Joseph To His Roots

Urban Cardinals Prepare For Saquon Barkley's Return 

“The Giants have had a total of 116 rushing yards the last two games. The Cardinals, meanwhile are surrendering almost 133 yards rushing a game, 26th in the NFL.
“He is the real deal and we have to have a plan in place,” Joseph said, adding that as a defense, “you pick your poison and spread the stress around.”
Hicks said the Cardinals have to rally to the ball all the time – Barkley will break tackles if left one-on-one. Overall, though, Hicks said the preparation isn’t different for an elite back like Barkley if only because defenses can’t afford that type of thinking.
“I don’t think it can be that way in the NFL,” Hicks said. “Guys every week are talented enough to gash you on any play. The moment you put your guard down, it’s out of the gate.”


“Joseph was talking about Barkley when he veered into defending other parts of the Giants’ offense, including tight ends – a subject that had yet to be broached in the press session.

“Tight end questions? Not yet? They’re coming, I’m sure,” Joseph said with a smile.
The Falcons’ Austin Hooper was the latest opposing tight end to riddle the Cardinals full of holes, with his eight catches for more than 100 yards and a touchdown. In only one of six games this season (in Cincinnati) has the opposing tight end not caused major damage.
Joseph thinks tight ends are in a better place across the league because of the rules and because linebackers are splitting focus between the pass and run.
“You have to have a plan each week to cover the tight end. You can’t double tight ends – that’s wasted resources,” Joseph said. “Maybe third down, but you can’t on first and second down numbers-wise, because of the run game.
“You can’t spend your nights worrying about stopping tight ends first, second and third downs, because that’s very unsound.”
Joseph said “we’ll see” if Patrick Peterson’s return can help overall in guarding tight ends.”

“Running back David Johnson, who missed practice Wednesday because of an ankle injury, returned on a limited basis Thursday as he tracks to likely play on Sunday. Fellow running back D.J. Foster (hamstring) was added to the injury report for the first time as limited.
Also limited were wide receiver Christian Kirk (ankle), safety Chris Banjo (illness), defensive lineman Zach Kerr (ankle), tight end Maxx Williams (ankle), linebacker Dennis Gardeck (ankle), safety Charles Washington (shoulder) and punter Andy Lee (hip). Defensive lineman Zach Allen (neck), linebacker Ezekiel Turner (hamstring) and offensive lineman Brett Toth (illness) did not practice.”

McManaman AZ Central: Arizona Cardinals' Patrick Peterson has advice for 'silent assassin' Byron Murphy

Winklejohn AJC: Falcons defenders looking for answers

Walker Baltimore Sun: Ravens vs. Seahawks scouting report: Who has the edge in Sunday’s game in Seattle?

Oyefusi Baltimore Sun: ‘It’s sort of like playing against Steph Curry’: Ravens aiming to disrupt Seahawks QB Russell Wilson, league’s best passer under pressure

Campbell Chicago Tribune: 5 takeaways from Bears coordinators Thursday, including playing without ‘alpha’ Akiem Hicks, payments in ‘Chuck Bucks’ and a tough Saints defensive front

Sheeran Cincy Jungle: The Bengals deserve the disaster artist known as Jim Turner Bengals Sign Zettel, Waive Perine

Williams Cleveland Plain Dealer: For Cleveland Browns, the post-bye schedule is not as easy as originally thought

Lesmerises Cleveland Plain Dealer: The Cleveland Browns finally need to replace Joe Thomas and prioritize offensive tackle

Labbe Cleveland Plain Dealer: Grading the Browns linebackers: Injury forces a rookie into spotlight

Gribble Mack Wilson’s ‘on-the-job training’ has Browns encouraged he can become a ‘big-time player’

Cabot Cleveland Plain Dealer: Damarious Randall: Browns can still reach their goals, ‘even the Super Bowl’

Sherrington Dallas Morning News: While LA Rams make splash signings, Cowboys are trying to reach Super Bowl through the draft. Which approach will pay off?

Epstein USA Today: Ideal time to lose three? Cowboys QB Dak Prescott's 'weird way of looking at things’

Gehlken Dallas Morning News: Cowboys center Travis Frederick is healthy, but not playing up to Pro Bowl-caliber talent yet

Watkins Dallas Morning News: With Cowboys DE Tyrone Crawford out for season, rookie Trysten Hill is getting ready for big opportunity ahead

Newman Denver Post: Broncos’ offensive line manhandled by Kansas City as Chiefs rack up nine sacks, hold Denver to 71 yards rushing

Keeler Denver Post: Phillip Lindsay: Broncos surprised by Chiefs’ defensive wrinkles


Rogers Detroit News: Lions' Taylor Decker rounding into form after sluggish start to season

Birkett Detroit Free Press: Detroit Lions rookie Austin Bryant, injured, but 'when my time comes, I’ll be ready'

McClain Houston Chronicle: Texans running to paydirt at record pace

Wilson Houston Chronicle: Texans' Romeo Crennel on Colts' Marlon Mack: 'I saw too much in the playoff game'

Wilson Houston Chronicle: Less cheat meals, more cardio for Texans' D.J. Reader

Wilson Houston Chronicle: Covering T.Y. Hilton is no joke for Texans secondary

Ayello Indianapolis Star: ‘Keep watching,’ Colts say big plays are coming

Erickson Indianapolis Star: Insider: Why Colts believe rookie Ben Banogu can replace Kemoko Turay's pass rush

Peru’s SB Nation: Is Tony Khan the guy to replace Tom Coughlin?

Reid Florida Times Union: Jaguars vs. Bengals: OC John DeFilippo says he didn't do a good enough job

Smits Florida Times Union: Jaguars vs. Bengals: Gardner Minshew expects new wrinkles each week

Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet)
10/18/19, 6:22 AM
Heading into the all-important MRI today, here is where it stands for #Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes: He’s expected to be out at least three weeks with a dislocated kneecap, but there is some real optimism from those involved that he can play through the ailment after that

Florio PFT: Andy Reid has no regrets for calling quarterback sneak

Fischman Russell Okung Grateful to be Alive, Back at Practice

Jackson David Edwards "really excited" to make first career start Sunday

Klein LA Times: New cornerback Jalen Ramsey acclimating to Rams, could play against the Falcons

Smalls Miami Herald: The Miami Dolphins are on pace to end up in the record books for all the wrong reasons

McPherson Miami Herald: As trade rumors bubble up again, Dolphins’ Drake said focus is on ‘playing this game’

Hyde Sun Sentinel: NFL millions won’t keep Dolphins’ Christian Wilkins from pinching pennies — who needs lights or AC?

Goessling Minn Star Tribune: Vikings expect Lions to try clamping down on Stefon Diggs, Adam Thielen

Hodowanic Vikings TE Kyle Rudolph has become a good blocker, though not by choice

HP Football SB Nation: Film room: Patriots find success in the ground game on both sides of the ball against the Giants

McBride Boston Globe: Patriots’ Ben Watson and family went through whirlwind of emotions

Nora Princiotti (@NoraPrinciotti)
10/17/19, 11:54 AM
Belichick on Eric Tomlinson: “Bigger, has blocking ability. He’s been in the backfield, he’s played on the line of scrimmage. We’ll see how it works out.”

Volin Boston Globe: Film study: Because of Sam Darnold, Jets are a different opponent this time

Just The 'slippery' issue in Saints vs. Bears: Players, coaches ready for grass at Soldier Field

Nowak Saints QB Drew Brees must wear brace on thumb when he returns: 'That's doctor's orders'

Kawahara SF Chronicle: Derek Carr, Raiders offense strive for balance

Bair NBC Bay Area: Raiders' Kolton Miller quietly confident while playing best football

Williams NBC Bay Area: Raiders' Maurice Hurst Is Gaining Momentum

Gutierrez ESPN Oakland: Raiders DC Paul Guenther rails against NFL's handling of Vontaze Burfict

McCarthy Phil Inquirer: Eagles’ Brandon Graham’s plan to contain Cowboys’ Ezekiel Elliott: Steak, dumplings, and determination

Domowitch After six games, Fletcher Cox still is trying to find his mojo, and his first quarterback sack

Klinger Penn Live: Unleashing Diontae Johnson & 4 other boxes for the Steelers to check after the bye week

Batko Pittsburgh Post Gazette: Analysis: Steelers can make a case for worst injury luck in 2019

Adamski Pittsburgh Tribune Review: Rookie linebacker Devin Bush good as advertised for Steelers defense

Chan NBC Bay Area: 49ers players aren't surprised by Robert Saleh's wild sideline passion

Branch SF Chronicle: Solomon Thomas, 49ers’ teammates, enthused about ‘real sack’

Ostler SF Chronicle: 49ers’ Richard Sherman: How Compton childhood shaped his NFL journey

Branch SF Chronicle: 49ers see plenty of good in Jimmie Ward despite his numerous bad breaks

Jude Seattle Times: No one has been better under pressure than Russell Wilson. Now here come the blitz-happy Ravens

Romano TB Times: Bucs should do Jameis a favor and stop making excuses for him

Wyatt Thursday's Quick Hits: Derrick Henry's Mindset, Ryan Tannehill's “Energy,” Cameron Wake's Return and the Titans Injury Report

Schwartz NYP: How did things get so bad for Marcus Mariota?
Retired NFL lineman Geoff Schwartz looks at what has gone wrong for the former No. 2 pick and what his future holds.

Mays The Ringer: Dan Snyder and the Redskins Are Doomed to a Purgatory of Their Own Creation

Carpenter Washington Post: As Daniel Snyder’s Redskins hit new low, here comes Kyle Shanahan to show him what he missed

Carpenter Washington Post: The latest addition to the Redskins’ offense is a fullback

John Keim (@john_keim)
10/17/19, 3:25 PM
Callahan says of Ereck Flowers “he’s come a long way in a short period of time... he could be one of the top guards in the league.” My two cents: the angst that he would be a big issue was misplaced. He’s been fine and at times good. Far from the issue on O

Copeland Washington Post: A wide receiver in college, Redskins’ Quinton Dunbar has become one of NFL’s top cornerbacks


Hernandez LA Times: Value of UCLA’s win over Stanford will be measured in the weeks ahead

Edwards CBS Sports: NFL Draft prospects to watch on Saturday: Gamecocks eye another upset, Pac-12 up for grabs



Fennelly Giantswire USA Today: Friday Flashback: Unheralded Ottis Anderson was a great Cardinal and Giant

Giants Birthdays 10-18

Lee Rouson RB D8-Colorado 1985 NYG 1985 -1990 10-18-1962

Bob Timberlake QB/PK D3-Michigan 1965 NYG 1965 10-18-1943

Bob Whitfield LT/RT FA-JAC 2005 NYG 2005-2006 10-18-1971

In Memoriam

Bill Austin RG/LG D13-Oregon State 1949 NYG 1949-1950, 1953-1957 Born 10-18-1928 Died 5-22-2013

Oregon HOF: “Born in 1928, Austin grew up in San Pedro, Calif., and reached Oregon State as a 16-year-old. He played offensive lineman for the Beavers for four seasons (1945-48), eventually filling out to 6-foot-1, 225 pounds.
In 1946, the Beavers were 7-1-1, losing only to UCLA. They tied Stanford. As a senior, he was voted to the All-Pacific Coast Conference team and played in the 1949 East-West Shrine Game. During his years in Corvallis, the Beavers were a combined 21-14-5.
The New York Giants drafted Austin, who earned a degree in biology, in 1949. He played seven seasons for the Giants, missing the 1951 and ’52 seasons while serving in the military during the Korean War. Upon his return, Austin excelled and played in the Pro Bowl in 1954. His playing career ended in 1957, but he immediately became an assistant coach.
In New York, Austin played under Vince Lombardi, who was an assistant, and was one of 17 players from the 1950s Giants to become coaches in the league. Austin became the offensive line coach for the Green Bay Packers when Lombardi took over the team in 1959. In Austin’s six years in Green Bay, the Packers reached the NFL Championship game three times and won twice. He coached the offensive line for the Los Angeles Rams in 1965 before being named head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1966, where his teams went a combined 11-28-3 in three seasons. Upon his dismissal, Austin rejoined Lombardi, this time with the Washington Redskins in 1969. Upon Lombardi’s death the following year, Austin coached the team for one season.
Austin coached the offensive line with the New York Giants from 1979-82 before retiring from coaching.
In four years as a head coach, Austin finished 17-36-3.
Following his career, he moved with his wife to La Mesa, Calif., and became a business owner.
Austin was inducted to the Oregon Sports Hall of Fame in 1982 and into the OSU Athletics Hall of Fame in 1990.”

Frank Filchock TB TR-WAS 1946 NYG 1946 Born 10-28-1916 Died 6-20-1994

Bill Schuler LT/RT D31-Yale 1947 NYG 1947-1948 Born 10-18-1922 Died 11-08-2007
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Darren Urban (@Cardschatter)
10/18/19, 10:51 AM
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Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer)
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The Bengals announce a one-game suspension for OL Cordy Glenn for "internal disciplinary reasons."

From the announcement: "The Bengals will have no further comment regarding the suspension."

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