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Duggan: Saquon and Evan Engram cleared to play

LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/18/2019 1:04 pm
If German, I'll delete

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Duggan: Saquon Barkley and Evan Engram are set to return against the Cardinals on Sunday. Sterling Shepard has been ruled out with a concussion.



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Thank you  
mrvax : 10/18/2019 1:09 pm : link
That should help a lot.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/18/2019 1:17 pm : link
New York Giants
@Giants
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#NYGiants Game Status:

Out - WR Sterling Shepard (concussion), CB Corey Ballentine (concussion)

RB Saquon Barkley, TE Evan Engram, RB Wayne Gallman, DL Olsen Pierre practiced fully
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/18/2019 1:18 pm : link
Kimberly Jones
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Saquon Barkley & Evan Engram have practiced fully all week. They are not on the injury report. Pat Shurmur to reporters: “I just choose not to tell you (their status) right now.” But, yes, they will play vs AZ.
Excited  
darren in pdx : 10/18/2019 1:19 pm : link
to see Jones have a full game with Barkley.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/18/2019 1:20 pm : link
Tom Rock
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Gallman and Pierre need to be cleared by independent neurologist today. If they are, they will be available Sunday.
RE: Excited  
mfsd : 10/18/2019 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14632783 darren in pdx said:
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to see Jones have a full game with Barkley.


Yes sir. And Engram
About time.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/18/2019 1:27 pm : link
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I'm interested to see what the offense will look like with Saq back  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/18/2019 1:35 pm : link
Against Tampa, it seemed like there was a bunch of shotgun formations, which I think limits the threat of Saquon on the ground. I expected it to resemble the preseason offense with multi-TEs or 2 backs and lots of play-action passing (sort of like the stuff MINN killed the Giants with). Maybe it still will look like that and the shotgun formations were a team specific (Tampa) look.
I really hope...  
BillKo : 10/18/2019 1:39 pm : link
..they get Bark more involved in the DOWNFIELD pass game, rather than simply screens and safety valve routes.........
Considering how tricky  
crick n NC : 10/18/2019 1:41 pm : link
High ankle sprains can be, I'm just glad he is able to play with a good portion of schedule left. I don't get the impatience with Barkley's injury.
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rasbutant : 10/18/2019 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14632780 Eric from BBI said:
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New York Giants
@Giants
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#NYGiants Game Status:

Out - WR Sterling Shepard (concussion), CB Corey Ballentine (concussion)

RB Saquon Barkley, TE Evan Engram, RB Wayne Gallman, DL Olsen Pierre practiced fully




To bad Ballentine is out for this game. Arizona does a lot of 4wr sets and he would get a chance to play CB in this one. Guess we will see Antonio Hamilton instead. Maybe they will work Love in there too?
26 and 88  
Ryan in Albany : 10/18/2019 1:46 pm : link
on the field with 8...

A sight for sore eyes.
barkley cleared to play is  
japanhead : 10/18/2019 2:09 pm : link
one thing. shurmur figuring out how to maximize his presence on the field is quite another.
RE: barkley cleared to play is  
giants#1 : 10/18/2019 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14632813 japanhead said:
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one thing. shurmur figuring out how to maximize his presence on the field is quite another.


He led the league in yards from scrimmage as a rookie.
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christian : 10/18/2019 2:47 pm : link
Glad the Giants didn't rely on Barkley's magical healing powers and opted for the normal, predictable time frame that unsurprisingly corresponded with him being better.
Pretty much a must win game  
JonC : 10/18/2019 3:02 pm : link
can't lose this one and expect to beat talented teams.
If the Cards crowd the L.O.S., I want to see Engram hurt hm deep ...  
Manny in CA : 10/18/2019 3:33 pm : link

(Along with Slayton) - that's what what Coughlin & Gilbride would do, when they had the receivers to do that.

The "X" factor at tight end is Dickerson, he's a hard hitting good hands guy who had a very good camp.


RE: RE: barkley cleared to play is  
japanhead : 10/18/2019 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14632814 giants#1 said:
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one thing. shurmur figuring out how to maximize his presence on the field is quite another.



He led the league in yards from scrimmage as a rookie.


talking about this year, but yea. he had a great rookie season.
RE: RE: barkley cleared to play is  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2019 4:08 pm : link
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one thing. shurmur figuring out how to maximize his presence on the field is quite another.



He led the league in yards from scrimmage as a rookie.


Would've been even better if he hadn't been essentially benched in Philadelphia, for example.
RE: RE: barkley cleared to play is  
Go Terps : 10/18/2019 4:21 pm : link
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one thing. shurmur figuring out how to maximize his presence on the field is quite another.



He led the league in yards from scrimmage as a rookie.


So? How did the Giants do in metrics that actually help determine wins and losses?
Hmmm  
FJ : 10/18/2019 8:42 pm : link
Remember when the Giants were called idiots for not just placing Barley on IR right away?
RE: Hmmm  
Tesla : 10/18/2019 9:40 pm : link
In comment 14633120 FJ said:
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Remember when the Giants were called idiots for not just placing Barley on IR right away?


No. Not at all. Don't recall a single person saying that.
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FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14632886 Go Terps said:
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one thing. shurmur figuring out how to maximize his presence on the field is quite another.



He led the league in yards from scrimmage as a rookie.



So? How did the Giants do in metrics that actually help determine wins and losses?


Fucking relentless.

Barkley is apparently the only draft pick who contributes to his team losing.

Darnold? Chubb? Mayfield? Well, basically almost every pick in the top 10 - useless. They aren't putting up any "metrics" leading to wins, whatever the fuck that means.
RE: RE: RE: RE: barkley cleared to play is  
section125 : 10/18/2019 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14633207 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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one thing. shurmur figuring out how to maximize his presence on the field is quite another.



He led the league in yards from scrimmage as a rookie.



So? How did the Giants do in metrics that actually help determine wins and losses?



Fucking relentless.

Barkley is apparently the only draft pick who contributes to his team losing.

Darnold? Chubb? Mayfield? Well, basically almost every pick in the top 10 - useless. They aren't putting up any "metrics" leading to wins, whatever the fuck that means.


Quite apparent only Terps has the proper plan to pick the GM and coach. But he doesn't need the GM because he will also choose the players.
Tiring.
The Barkley..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2019 10:58 pm : link
pick has made people who are otherwise sane to make ridiculous comments or have ridiculous takes.

It would be one thing if Barkley was bad. But he's not. He's not Trent Richardson. Yet there are literally comments here saying he was a bad pick.

When in the last time a very good player was considered a bad pick? Only for certain members of our "fanbase".
RE: The Barkley..  
English Alaister : 10/19/2019 4:14 am : link
In comment 14633285 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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pick has made people who are otherwise sane to make ridiculous comments or have ridiculous takes.

It would be one thing if Barkley was bad. But he's not. He's not Trent Richardson. Yet there are literally comments here saying he was a bad pick.

When in the last time a very good player was considered a bad pick? Only for certain members of our "fanbase".


In summary...50 yard passing TDs good. 50 yard TD runs don't contribute to winning.

I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure the runs are only worth 2 points.
Go take a look at the team's offensive stats last year  
Go Terps : 10/19/2019 11:34 am : link
Barkley had a great year...go see what the impact was on the team's ability to score points and win games.

I understand this is the kind of thing you guys will only start caring about if/when the Giants start doing it well. Until then it won't matter to you.
RE: Go take a look at the team's offensive stats last year  
christian : 10/19/2019 12:41 pm : link
In comment 14633407 Go Terps said:
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Barkley had a great year...go see what the impact was on the team's ability to score points and win games.

I understand this is the kind of thing you guys will only start caring about if/when the Giants start doing it well. Until then it won't matter to you.


The most concerning part is the Giants have the best running back in football, and over the the last 22 games have been a mediocre running team.

This is not Barkley's fault at all.

This is the product of playing behind sub-par lines and getting banged up.

Now pause for a minute and genuinely examine if those are unlikely circumstances for him to operate in as a running back in the NFL.
Barkley will be more valuable if the team doesn't play from behind  
Jimmy Googs : 10/19/2019 12:45 pm : link
which has been the biggest factor over the last 18 or so games he played in, and will continue so for the near term...
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