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RasputinPrime : 10/18/2019 3:56 pm


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We have a game 6  
dpinzow : 10/18/2019 10:09 pm : link
Houston, having gotten every single lucky break in the series, is up 3 games to 2
Can we bat the bottom of the ninth for some practice?  
jgambrosio : 10/18/2019 10:09 pm : link
Nice win. Still not feeling great about these next two.
Let's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2019 10:09 pm : link
take two in Houston!

The Texas Two-Step!
The Yankees  
Matt in SGS : 10/18/2019 10:11 pm : link
are comfortable in slugfests. I think that's what is going to happen tomorrow. Just get a lead late and bring back in Britton and Chapman and then roll the dice in Game 7. Houston shouldn't have the arms to get 9 innings with their pen.
Good win  
BleedBlue : 10/18/2019 10:11 pm : link
Need bats to wake up!

Force a game 7
Go Yanks  
GiantsUA : 10/18/2019 10:13 pm : link
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Great Win behind Great Pitching  
Percy : 10/18/2019 10:14 pm : link
Afraid coming on here earlier might be some sort of curse on the team. Regardless, a great and deserved win. Glad that little winless streak is over. Hope they learn how to hit better otherwise than in the first inning. On to Houston and closing it out there.
What time is tomorrow's game?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/18/2019 10:15 pm : link
Gotta go to 3 year olds birthday party at 6 with wifey and daughter...joy.

Nice win!  
Bramton1 : 10/18/2019 10:17 pm : link
Haven't been able to see any of it, as I am camping with my kid's Cub Scout pack.

But GD, what exactly is the benefit of having Gary Sanchez in the lineup? 0 for 3 with 3 strikeouts. He's worthless.
2 wins away from the World Series  
Danny Kanell : 10/18/2019 10:19 pm : link
Letís fucking go!
Proud the guys nutted up and won  
The_Boss : 10/18/2019 10:19 pm : link
Whatís the plan tomorrow? Maybe open with Green. Then Severino. Then mix and match late?
Live another day  
micky : 10/18/2019 10:23 pm : link
Pen tomorrow is key
RE: Great Win behind Great Pitching  
section125 : 10/18/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14633243 Percy said:
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Afraid coming on here earlier might be some sort of curse on the team.


Me too. Can never be superstitious enough.

If they can just get more than 3 guys per night to hit...
RE: Nice win!  
robbieballs2003 : 10/18/2019 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14633245 Bramton1 said:
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Haven't been able to see any of it, as I am camping with my kid's Cub Scout pack.

But GD, what exactly is the benefit of having Gary Sanchez in the lineup? 0 for 3 with 3 strikeouts. He's worthless.


Lot of missed catches tonight as well. He needs to sit. Romaine has hit well all year. No reason not to get him a game especially with 4 games in a row now. Sanchez could use the rest. His eye at the plate is so off.
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Bill2 : 10/18/2019 10:26 pm : link
Notice the thread is 50% smaller then when they lose?

I wonder why that is?
Great win  
dpinzow : 10/18/2019 10:26 pm : link
now how do they deploy that bullpen...

--Green will have to open with 2 innings (1st and 2nd)

--You figure that the combination of Kahnle, Britton and Chapman can pitch the last 4 innings (6th, 7th, 8th, 9th). Kahnle only threw 22 combined pitches the last 2 nights; Britton threw 18 pitches tonight and dominated for 5 outs; Chapman retired the side on 9 pitches and he's only thrown 2 innings the entire series

--The question is who will pitch the 3rd, 4th and 5th (and possibly 2nd, if Green can't get 6 outs, or even 1st, if Green gets knocked around).

Ottavino can only go batter by batter. The moment he lets a runner on, he has to get pulled. Ottavino can also only start a clean inning in that scenario.

Then we have Happ, Loaisiga, Heller, and Cessa as bullpen guys (or in the case of Happ, a starter who wasn't good enough to get a spot in the playoff rotation. Severino has to be held back for a possible Game 7; Paxton obviously can't pitch after he threw 112 pitches tonight. I don't think Tanaka would be available either after only 1 day of rest
RE: Proud the guys nutted up and won  
dpinzow : 10/18/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14633249 The_Boss said:
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Whatís the plan tomorrow? Maybe open with Green. Then Severino. Then mix and match late?


Severino has to be held back for a Game 7...
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BleedBlue : 10/18/2019 10:27 pm : link
Green opens tomorrow.

Maybe Happ throws an inning?


Gonna need Otto to bounce back.

Would have been nice to have German this series huh.

The Yanks can win a slugfest tomorrow. Then go sevy v cole game 7
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BH28 : 10/18/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14633255 Bill2 said:
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Notice the thread is 50% smaller then when they lose?

I wonder why that is?


It's like the Howard Stern movie... The haters tune in longer than the fans
Survive and advance...to game six.  
bceagle05 : 10/18/2019 10:29 pm : link
Pack those hitting shoes for Houston, boys.
RE: .  
rnargi : 10/18/2019 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14633255 Bill2 said:
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Notice the thread is 50% smaller then when they lose?

I wonder why that is?


Did you mean when they win?
RE: ....  
Nine-Tails : 10/18/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14633258 BleedBlue said:
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Green opens tomorrow.

Maybe Happ throws an inning?


Gonna need Otto to bounce back.

Would have been nice to have German this series huh.

The Yanks can win a slugfest tomorrow. Then go sevy v cole game 7


Ottavino scares the hell out of me. He wants no part of this
Going back to my earlier point on bullpen usage...Green is the key  
dpinzow : 10/18/2019 10:34 pm : link
He's thrown 3 innings twice this year: at Oakland, where he gave up 1 run, and 3 perfect innings at Fenway in September
RE: .  
rnargi : 10/18/2019 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14633255 Bill2 said:
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Notice the thread is 50% smaller then when they lose?

I wonder why that is?


Did you mean when they win?
We live to play another day  
BlueHurricane : 10/18/2019 10:43 pm : link
We live to play another day
Letís goooooo!!!!! - ( New Window )
RE: Going back to my earlier point on bullpen usage...Green is the key  
rnargi : 10/18/2019 10:43 pm : link
In comment 14633266 dpinzow said:
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He's thrown 3 innings twice this year: at Oakland, where he gave up 1 run, and 3 perfect innings at Fenway in September


I think Loisaga (sp) might be the key.
I'm also wondering whether Tanaka is available (don't think so)  
dpinzow : 10/18/2019 10:44 pm : link
it is his throw day and in game 162 they experimented with him out of the bullpen. Tanaka would only enter in a "break glass in case of emergency" scenario
RE: RE: Going back to my earlier point on bullpen usage...Green is the key  
dpinzow : 10/18/2019 10:44 pm : link
In comment 14633273 rnargi said:
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In comment 14633266 dpinzow said:


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He's thrown 3 innings twice this year: at Oakland, where he gave up 1 run, and 3 perfect innings at Fenway in September



I think Loisaga (sp) might be the key.


Don't trust him though...you'd have to sneak him in against their bottom of the order
RE: RE: Great Win behind Great Pitching  
Percy : 10/18/2019 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14633252 section125 said:
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In comment 14633243 Percy said:


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Afraid coming on here earlier might be some sort of curse on the team.



Me too. Can never be superstitious enough.

If they can just get more than 3 guys per night to hit...


I agree and don't think anyone can be superstitious enough in this contest.

Did not like Kahnle being off as he was. Everyone else on the mound was sensational. Hitters seemed to go back to sleep after the first. Just can't afford to do that tomorrow. One supposes they know that, too.
Game plan would probably go something like  
KJG5173 : 10/18/2019 11:14 pm : link
Green for 2
Happ / lasagna / cessa combine for 3
Kahnle / Britton / Chapman for final 4
Not trying to be Debbie Downer  
BlueLou'sBack : 10/18/2019 11:24 pm : link
and if the Yanks can pull off 2 straight Ws in Houston, woohoo!

But I wonder if people predicting "Yanks in 7" are largely the same folks who projected a Yankees sweep after game 1?


This Astros team is really fucking good, no BS there. And I can't see this team beating Cole. Too many swings and misses - still - at pitches outside the strike zone. Houston batters have more discipline and, it would seem, outstanding eyesight.


Look I hope the Yanks win as much as anyone, but I sure as hell aren't predicting it or betting even the smallest room of the house on it let alone the farm.
RE: Not trying to be Debbie Downer  
Dave in PA : 10/18/2019 11:29 pm : link
In comment 14633291 BlueLou'sBack said:
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and if the Yanks can pull off 2 straight Ws in Houston, woohoo!

But I wonder if people predicting "Yanks in 7" are largely the same folks who projected a Yankees sweep after game 1?


This Astros team is really fucking good, no BS there. And I can't see this team beating Cole. Too many swings and misses - still - at pitches outside the strike zone. Houston batters have more discipline and, it would seem, outstanding eyesight.


Look I hope the Yanks win as much as anyone, but I sure as hell aren't predicting it or betting even the smallest room of the house on it let alone the farm.
Houston has the better team, but itís 2 games. Crazy shit happens.
Nice seeing Paxton righting himself and the ship  
xman : 10/18/2019 11:35 pm : link
out dueling Verlander for a change.

Very very concerned with Sanchez as is every Yankee fan. Not just for this series but for the future. Has the league figured him out or has he developed some bad habits. I know he is facing some big pitchers but he is not suppose to be a chump
lol Like everyone here is over confident  
Stu11 : 10/18/2019 11:35 pm : link
we all know its a tall task, going back to Houston for 2, but we're alive and we'll take it inning by inning.
Watching the Yankees tomorrow night is better than trying to  
St. Jimmy : 10/18/2019 11:39 pm : link
figure out what college football g as me to watch.
RE: RE: RE: Great Win behind Great Pitching  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/19/2019 12:28 am : link
In comment 14633277 Percy said:
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Did not like Kahnle being off as he was. Everyone else on the mound was sensational. Hitters seemed to go back to sleep after the first. Just can't afford to do that tomorrow. One supposes they know that, too.


As they said on the YES post-game Thursday night with Chad Green, Kahnle was up and down for a while before he actually came in the game. That can have a real negative effect on a pitcher.

Great job by Paxton of just gutting this one out. Britton also did a great job.
Dave in PA...  
BlueLou'sBack : 10/19/2019 1:22 am : link
Re "it's two games, crazy shit happens" yeah sure, but the sense I've had, since the second game, was the Yanks back was broke in that one, or rather after it. They came inches within a sweep of the first two, but Houston was simply too good behind Verlander.

This game the Yanks jumped V early, and Paxton had a great game to go 6 full, just dodging that last shot to the wall that would have closed it to 4-3 and IMO, changed the complexion of the game.

Baseball is so psychological, and the Astros aren't just good, they are extremely confident.

That's going to be very, very tough to overcome two times in Houston. I doubt tonight changed the relative confidence levels of both squads.
Any way you look at it, this was a great win. Winning 2 at Houston  
Ira : 10/19/2019 3:38 am : link
will be tough and the odds are certainly against it. But beating a top team twice in their home happens all the time.
RE: Dave in PA...  
section125 : 10/19/2019 5:45 am : link
In comment 14633303 BlueLou'sBack said:
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Re "it's two games, crazy shit happens" yeah sure, but the sense I've had, since the second game, was the Yanks back was broke in that one, or rather after it. They came inches within a sweep of the first two, but Houston was simply too good behind Verlander.

This game the Yanks jumped V early, and Paxton had a great game to go 6 full, just dodging that last shot to the wall that would have closed it to 4-3 and IMO, changed the complexion of the game.

Baseball is so psychological, and the Astros aren't just good, they are extremely confident.

That's going to be very, very tough to overcome two times in Houston. I doubt tonight changed the relative confidence levels of both squads.


I think Saturday's game is advantage Yankees. Green sets the tone. If he gets thru 2 or maybe three I still feel the Yankees are in great shape. Won't leave much for Sunday, but you deal with that Sunday.

As badly as the bottom of the order has been for the Yanks, the Astros have been just as bad if not worse.

Also, Judge has done very little at the plate, his only 2 RBIs are the 2nd game HR. Basically only LeMahieu and Torres have been consistent.
Houston is Confident Because They're Good  
Jim in Tampa : 10/19/2019 8:17 am : link
But categorizing the Yankees as a "broken" team just because they didn't Game 2 is nonsense.

The Yanks are confident too as they're a good team that has overcome a lot of adversity this year.

Houston's big advantage is their big three starting pitching. The Yanks big advantage is their pen. Game 6 is a bullpen game. Advantage: Yankees.

If they can get it to a Game 7 Houston will be heavily favored with Cole on the mound. But how many times have we all seen a game where two of the top pitchers for that year were facing each other, and everyone was expecting a low scoring game that actually ended up a high-scoring afair? And conversley, how many times have we seen a matchup of two scrub pitchers that we were sure would be a high-scoring matchup that actually became a 1-0 pitching duel?

It's baseball where past performance does not guarantee similar future results.

Just get it to Game 7 and hope that Sunday is "anything can happen" day.
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arcarsenal : 10/19/2019 9:20 am : link
James Paxton earned his pinstripes last night.

What a performance by him after a 1st inning that had everyone groaning and thinking this team was about to just roll over and die.

The energy in the stadium after the Hicks HR was incredible. That's what October baseball is all about.

This is still a huge climb with Cole waiting on the other side if we manage to push this to a Game 7 - but I like our chances again today against their BP guys with the momentum and confidence this team has right now.

Just force a Game 7. Anything can happen when you get there. One inning at a time. Been through adversity all year. They can do this.

LFG.
Get into the bullpen  
HomerJones45 : 10/19/2019 10:36 am : link
the Houston bullpen is not very deep.
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Danny Kanell : 10/19/2019 11:36 am : link
In comment 14632986 Danny Kanell said:
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Paxton fucking sucks.


This didnít age well.
yes rnargi  
Bill2 : 10/19/2019 11:39 am : link
50% smaller when they win.

Too jet-lagged to think straight
RE: yes rnargi  
rnargi : 10/19/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14633410 Bill2 said:
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50% smaller when they win.

Too jet-lagged to think straight


No worries, I thought I was missing a point, lol...that's what happens when I try to understand some of the things you say!

Hope all is well with you, old friend
I wonder if its 50% less posts when they win is because  
xman : 10/19/2019 2:23 pm : link
the wind is out of the Yankee sails. The loss on Thursday put them in a long shot position to win. That and having to face Cole is a big mountain to climb. However if the Yanks win tonight the outpouring of excitement and posts will disprove or prove contrary thoughts
RE: I wonder if its 50% less posts when they win is because  
Jim in Tampa : 10/19/2019 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14633494 xman said:
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the wind is out of the Yankee sails. The loss on Thursday put them in a long shot position to win. That and having to face Cole is a big mountain to climb. However if the Yanks win tonight the outpouring of excitement and posts will disprove or prove contrary thoughts

Fewer posts has nothing to do with "the wind being out of the Yankee sails". When your team is losing it makes people likely to post for a number of reasons.

First posters want to bitch about the fact that they're losing. Then many of them want to tell you what they would have done differently, while others want to weigh in on all the changes they think the team needs to make to avoid losing next year.

Then you have the people who respond to all of those types of posts, including many "STFU" posts from people who don't react well to other posters bitching when their team is losing.

All that activity means a lot more posts.

When the team is winning there are simply fewer discussions to be had.
I agree in what you are saying but  
xman : 10/19/2019 4:17 pm : link
the excitement after a win should bring should also bring out the happiness of passionate fans. Weren't their tons of poster after the first game win against Houston?
RE: I agree in what you are saying but  
arcarsenal : 10/19/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14633548 xman said:
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the excitement after a win should bring should also bring out the happiness of passionate fans. Weren't their tons of poster after the first game win against Houston?


It's just typical human behavior.

It's like when you order something online and it does whatever it's supposed to do and you're satisfied overall. You're probably not going to rush to write a review or talk about it - you don't really have the urge.

But, if whatever you order arrives broken, doesn't work, falls apart... whatever. You're probably going to go let the manufacturer know how much they suck and make sure other people know about your bad experience.

People need to vent when they're angry. They don't always feel the need to say much when they're content.
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arcarsenal : 10/19/2019 4:30 pm : link
That said...

There are and have been jackasses on Yankee threads all year who quite literally have only showed up in times of turbulence and have been absolutely nowhere to be found any time the team has been winning consistently or accomplishing anything positive.

When the team loses a couple games, though? There they are!

That's obnoxious and is separate behavior from what I'm illustrating in my prior post. Most of us have been here discussing the team all year - win or lose. Those select few posters... only when we lose or things seem to be getting muddled. Like mid-season when the entire rotation was getting absolutely crushed. They were out in droves then.

After the break, the Yanks went on a winning streak and were one of the hottest teams in baseball and they all predictably vanished.
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