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Reale01 : 10/19/2019 12:36 pm
Why doesn't he just answer the question?

Everyone on this board knows he is expected to play. AZ knows he is expected to play.

Does anyone else find it annoying that Shurmer won't just say that Barkley is going to play this week barring any setbacks?

I actually like Shurmer, but he comes across as a bit of a dick when he does that. It makes me worry that he is starting to crack.

He does the same thing with Engram.

Try this Pat:

Q: Are Barkley and Engram expected to play this week?

A: They practiced well this week and I expect them to play on Sunday barring any setback.

Q: Are they ready for full time duty?
A: The specific plan for them will reveal itself on Sunday.
It’s the same from Belichick as well.  
Big Blue '56 : 10/19/2019 12:40 pm : link
Most, if not all, follow that info path as well
I would rather Shurmur say something like this  
Jimmy Googs : 10/19/2019 12:41 pm : link
Q: Is Barkley expected to play this week?

A: Yes, but keep in mind he is already limited by my playbook.
I'd like to punch Shurmer in the face  
Jints in Carolina : 10/19/2019 12:48 pm : link
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RE: It’s the same from Belichick as well.  
Reale01 : 10/19/2019 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14633437 Big Blue '56 said:
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Most, if not all, follow that info path as well


Point made but they don't usually do it when the player is practicing fully and not on the injury report.

I could see Belichick saying:
I didn't see him on the injury report so I expect he will play.
I find it more annoying that people still don't know how  
robbieballs2003 : 10/19/2019 1:02 pm : link
to spell our HC's name.

And who gives a fuck if the public knows who or who isn't playing? It helps out our opponents if they know. If they don't know then they have to use their time to plan for different possibilities.
No  
mdthedream : 10/19/2019 1:04 pm : link
he doesn't care about your fantasy football team LOL!
It just a typo..Shurmur  
Jimmy Googs : 10/19/2019 1:06 pm : link
hope that makes your day less annoying...
RE: I find it more annoying that people still don't know how  
Big Blue '56 : 10/19/2019 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14633454 robbieballs2003 said:
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to spell our HC's name.

And who gives a fuck if the public knows who or who isn't playing? It helps out our opponents if they know. If they don't know then they have to use their time to plan for different possibilities.


Do you know how many on here cannot spell, Belichick?
sadly, i expect shurmur to limit barkley's  
japanhead : 10/19/2019 1:07 pm : link
touches in ways that make little sense , and at inopportune times. hoping he proves me wrong here.
He's also not your Head Coach  
Jimmy Googs : 10/19/2019 1:08 pm : link
unless you're suiting up tomorrow...
RE: I find it more annoying that people still don't know how  
Reale01 : 10/19/2019 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14633454 robbieballs2003 said:
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to spell our HC's name.

And who gives a fuck if the public knows who or who isn't playing? It helps out our opponents if they know. If they don't know then they have to use their time to plan for different possibilities.


Sorry, Robbie for messing with your day. Everybody knows he is playing so why the bullshit? They are required by the league to put him on the injury report. It just seems unnecessary and petty.
RE: RE: I find it more annoying that people still don't know how  
robbieballs2003 : 10/19/2019 1:21 pm : link
In comment 14633468 Reale01 said:
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In comment 14633454 robbieballs2003 said:


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to spell our HC's name.

And who gives a fuck if the public knows who or who isn't playing? It helps out our opponents if they know. If they don't know then they have to use their time to plan for different possibilities.



Sorry, Robbie for messing with your day. Everybody knows he is playing so why the bullshit? They are required by the league to put him on the injury report. It just seems unnecessary and petty.


Does it really bother you? Plenty of coaches are quiet with respect to who and who is not playing. What if he has a set back during warmups? As of now he answered the question fine. There is a plan for them and that is the NYG's right to handle it how they want.
Simple solution  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/19/2019 1:22 pm : link
Don't listen to or read the pressers from Shurmur
RE: He's also not your Head Coach  
robbieballs2003 : 10/19/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14633460 Jimmy Googs said:
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unless you're suiting up tomorrow...


Considering I am a season ticket holder and support the Giants I have the right to say he is our HC as does every fan of the NYG.
You know, I agree as fans  
Jimmy Googs : 10/19/2019 1:33 pm : link
Shermur is kind of like our Head Coach too...
By being  
mrvax : 10/19/2019 1:34 pm : link
non-committal, in theory your opponent has to prep for multiple possibilities.
I would probably say they are being cautious about a setback  
Blue21 : 10/19/2019 2:26 pm : link
with the injury. But, everyone knows he will play. He's not fooling the Cardinals.
RE: I would rather Shurmur say something like this  
WillVAB : 10/19/2019 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14633439 Jimmy Googs said:
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Q: Is Barkley expected to play this week?

A: Yes, but keep in mind he is already limited by my playbook.


This. Healthy or not he probably maxes out at 15 touches. I guess the next HC will be thankful for preserving him.
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arcarsenal : 10/19/2019 3:08 pm : link
Shurmur.

Not Shurmer. Shemer. Shurmir. Shumer.

We all have our gripes with the guy, but let's at try to at least get the spelling right here. It's not too tough.
RE: It’s the same from Belichick as well.  
micky : 10/19/2019 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14633437 Big Blue '56 said:
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Most, if not all, follow that info path as well


Yup shurmurbis BB
Uh, No.....I dont care  
John In CO : 10/19/2019 3:29 pm : link
and im not sure why this is even an issue for anyone. Keep the opposition guessing; if he plays, he plays.

Man, when people decide to hate on someone, they will go to any limit to find fault, I guess. Im not a huge fan of Shurmur, but this would be the absolute least of my issues.
SHURMUR went to the Andy Reid school of none of your damn business  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/19/2019 3:38 pm : link
I don't understand why fans think the head coach has to share everything with them. He's not going to share what he had for lunch. Every coach hates the media. Every coach hates doing press conferences, interviews and the like.

I'd rather he said nothing
Belichick had a way with these issues.  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/19/2019 3:43 pm : link
A player could go home to visit his family's farm on a bye week, get cut in half in a freak and horrific farm machinery accident, and still somehow end up listed as questionable the following week.
One of the most confounding things to me  
djm : 10/19/2019 3:50 pm : link
Is why do you people care so much what the HC says?? Who cares?

You guys realize there’s gamesmanship going on here right? If the HC or GM or player thinks there is even a 1% chance that the truth will get the opposing team an advantage, they are going to dance around the topic and basically lie. If there’s a chance that the truth comes back to haunt them, they are going to lie. And really, who the fuck can blame them?

Thanks for answers  
Reale01 : 10/19/2019 5:26 pm : link
I understand gamesmanship. Robbie, you are right it is not gonna ruin my day. I'm am not looking to pick on Shurmur. It just seems unnecessarily evasive in this case. My best guess is that he is superstitious and doesn't want to jinx things. Or maybe he's just a "little stitious" as Eli once said.
RE: I would rather Shurmur say something like this  
buster : 10/19/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14633439 Jimmy Googs said:
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Q: Is Barkley expected to play this week?

A: Yes, but keep in mind he is already limited by my playbook.


I just don't get it?? Who cares about how he responded.. He said exactly what he needed to say...nothing more-nothing less.For the most part I find all Head Coach pre-game comments boring as Hell...As matter of fact I find all pre-game interviews by players and coaches candy coating
Post Game stuff... Another story completely  
buster : 10/19/2019 5:33 pm : link

I'm rather surprised that so many responded to this thread..Just Saying.
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christian : 10/19/2019 5:40 pm : link
When faced with simple questions, he produces unnecessarily difficult responses.

One could argue something along those same lines with his play calling.

Maybe it's a character flaw?

Q: Blah blah blah Barkley, Engram
A: They are back practicing, that's step one. We're playing it step-by-step and we'll see how ready they are come Sunday.

Q: Blah blah blah Barkley, Engram follow up
A: Like I said, one step at a time. We'll all see come Sunday.
RE: .  
Bluesbreaker : 10/19/2019 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14633507 arcarsenal said:
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Shurmur.

Not Shurmer. Shemer. Shurmir. Shumer.

We all have our gripes with the guy, but let's at try to at least get the spelling right here. It's not too tough.


You forgot Shoemore ..
Sounds like half are riding the cotton pony ....
Lighten up a little . Hope we don't lose this game.
Gonna be real traumatic around here ....
Its sho' business  
Jimmy Googs : 10/19/2019 7:42 pm : link
did I spell that correctly?
Barkley was cleared to play.  
Giant John : 10/19/2019 7:43 pm : link
What’s the question?
Have some of you guys...  
Chris in Philly : 10/19/2019 8:49 pm : link
ever heard of coach speak before? Plenty of reasons to get on Shurmur, this ain’t one.
RE: I would rather Shurmur say something like this  
Defense56 : 10/19/2019 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14633439 Jimmy Googs said:
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Q: Is Barkley expected to play this week?

A: Yes, but keep in mind he is already limited by my playbook.

Ha!
Ironically..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/19/2019 9:33 pm : link
if he had come out and said that Barkley's was definitely playing, what are the odds a thread is started saying the HC doesn't know what the fuck he's doing in regards to deception?
RE: Ironically..  
Matt M. : 10/19/2019 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14633820 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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if he had come out and said that Barkley's was definitely playing, what are the odds a thread is started saying the HC doesn't know what the fuck he's doing in regards to deception?
Exactly. And what the fuck do we care if syas Barkley is playing? If he says it and for any reason Barkley can't go, he can get fined. The Cards, if they are smart, are preparing for him to play and also have a plan if he doesn't. But, Shurmer saying anything means nothing at this point, other than making some fan feel better hearing Barkley is playing.
Why?  
USAF NYG Fan : 10/19/2019 10:44 pm : link
Why would you want to help the Cards with their prep?
RE: Ironically..  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 9:22 am : link
In comment 14633820 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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if he had come out and said that Barkley's was definitely playing, what are the odds a thread is started saying the HC doesn't know what the fuck he's doing in regards to deception?


maybe 1%. maybe...
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 9:32 am : link
right.
It's not about Barkley  
armstead98 : 10/20/2019 9:42 am : link
It's about the principle of never saying anything. If you say a player is a go if he's 100% then others will know they're not when you refuse to say.

Better to just never say anything, even if it looks a little strange sometimes, than risk accidentally giving away info.
RE: It just a typo..Shurmur  
Darth Paul : 10/20/2019 9:46 am : link
In comment 14633457 Jimmy Googs said:
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hope that makes your day less annoying...


Three Times??

I know how much everybody hates the grammar police, but it is the head coach of the team this board is dedicated to.
Lots of irony  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 9:52 am : link
on this silly thread...
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christian : 10/20/2019 10:47 am : link
There's a big difference between being cagey and semantically struggling to utter something cogent.

The reason the press pushed him is because his first word dump was awkwardly confusing.

It's not a tragedy. It's also not a matter of revealing his intentions and not revealing them.

It's a matter of being prepared, crisp, and thorough in your communication. But again being prepared, crisp, and thorough doesn't seem to be Shurmur's jam, so not surprised.
As surmised earlier and confirmed by Duggan in the pre-game  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 12:21 pm : link
thread, he was joust poking fun at Shurmur because of the manner he answered the first question. The real irony is Shurmur and others here can't see it...
Yep..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 12:38 pm : link
that's the irony alright.
The better news is because of the deception from Shurmur  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 12:48 pm : link
Arizona probably didn't game plan properly enough for SB
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