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section125 : 10/19/2019 4:58 pm
Going to start this thing. Lineups to follow.

Keep it rolling.
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Shitty end to the season.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/20/2019 3:34 am : link
Kill Chappy for not getting the job done tonight, but the idea that he's fallen off or is a choker is just asinine.

Here are his FIP rankings among ML relief pitchers as a Yankee:

2016 - 1st
2017 - 14th
2018 - 5th
2019 - 5th

GREAT all-time playoff AB by DJ. I was 100% certain Springer was going to catch it since that was the Yankees' luck this series. Series came down to the Yankees' offense letting Verlander and Cole off the hook in games 2 and 3. Neither pitched great, yet the Yankees couldn't get big hits or take advantage in any way.

Oh... BTW, John Flaherty absolutely sucks.

A disappointing loss  
Mike from SI : 10/20/2019 3:56 am : link
but a very fun season. I'll always fondly remember this season because I went to the London games and got to see one of the Twins playoff games with a good friend I don't get to see that often. (Obviously I won't remember it as fondly as the championship ones, but the fight this team had was special.)

I think we're close. There are some interesting decisions to be made. Go Nats.
Yankees Pitching  
jacob12 : 10/20/2019 4:04 am : link
The Yankees hit poorly with runners in scoring position against the Astros. Their pitching was excellent. The Astros batting average was abysmal.
No Ace?  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 6:30 am : link
What the hell is Seve then? Chopped liver? His injury changed the dynamics of the pitching staff. Someone said above that 7 of 9 starters we were under 250. Iíll go one step farther. How many of their guys are productive without the home run? 2 maybe 3. AND the lineup is WAY to right handed dominant with the short right field porch.
The biggest mistake Cashman has made is Stanton. The guy has a ridiculous contract and other than his MVP season, has never been healthy. Plus heís a crappy outfielder and hitter who is home run dependent too. And heís also right handed who strikes out too much. Adding a kid like Florial (if heís ready) next year, would help. Heís got speed something they could really use. The Yanks are built for regular season success, the Astros for post season.
All I can do or say to the  
section125 : 10/20/2019 7:00 am : link
few who think Chapman is a choker - remember 2001 vs the Diamondbacks. Greatest closer of all time, first player ever to be unanimously elected to the Hall of Fame threw away a ball on an easy play for error and then gave up a base hit to lose the World Series.... Sometimes great pitchers get beat by great hitters....ask Osuna what happened 15 minutes earlier.

In my mind, rightly or wrongly, Ottavino giving up the 2 out 1st pitch HR to Springer in game 2 was the series.
Also, I'm sure we will have  
section125 : 10/20/2019 7:04 am : link
a thread on changes/speculation coming over the winter. I think there will be more than I thought there would be...

But, if I might suggest, we leave that for another thread as it will be a long 4 months to pitchers and catchers.
RE: All I can do or say to the  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 7:12 am : link
In comment 14634520 section125 said:
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few who think Chapman is a choker - remember 2001 vs the Diamondbacks. Greatest closer of all time, first player ever to be unanimously elected to the Hall of Fame threw away a ball on an easy play for error and then gave up a base hit to lose the World Series.... Sometimes great pitchers get beat by great hitters....ask Osuna what happened 15 minutes earlier.

In my mind, rightly or wrongly, Ottavino giving up the 2 out 1st pitch HR to Springer in game 2 was the series.


Totally agree section. The series turned right there.

If Otto does his job they win game 2 and beat Verlander 2-1. They go back to NY up 2-0 and the pressure is really amped up on Cole. There's no telling how he pitches that game under those circumstances or how the Astros psyche is having lost both games at home.

Chapman had only given up one home run all season  
shyster : 10/20/2019 7:17 am : link
that mattered: the Travis D'Arnaud three-run HR at YS on July 15 that was the difference in a 5-4 loss.

Chapman's other two HRs allowed were harmless solos in save situations where he had leads of 3 and 5 runs and gave up nothing else.
This loss is still sitting with me the next day  
Matt M. : 10/20/2019 7:51 am : link
It's really not a surprising outcome, but I still feel somewhat in shock.
Losing German sucked too  
mattnyg05 : 10/20/2019 8:07 am : link
Heís a turd obviously but you may not have needed a bullpen game
The worst part of losing is these threads being overrun with trolls  
Greg from LI : 10/20/2019 8:15 am : link
and dupes. A bunch of shitstains who were nowhere to be seen all season long suddenly infest all the postseason Yankees threads, making them practically unreadable.
RE: The worst part of losing is these threads being overrun with trolls  
section125 : 10/20/2019 8:18 am : link
In comment 14634535 Greg from LI said:
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and dupes. A bunch of shitstains who were nowhere to be seen all season long suddenly infest all the postseason Yankees threads, making them practically unreadable.


As bad as the loss the trolls. Best to stay off the thread during the game postseason. The games are tough enough without reading what DBs are spewing....
RE: I took a quick look through the free agent list and itís a crappy list  
Jay in Toronto : 10/20/2019 8:19 am : link
In comment 14634476 Jim in Hoboken said:
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after Cole. I donít think Cashman has a lot of room to manuver unless he makes a lot of trades. Let Didi, Gardner, EE walk. Trade Andujar and Frazier for a pitcher if Hal doesnít want to pony up for Cole.


Strasburg might opt out.

Keep the kids -- esp Andujar. Why sell low, anyway?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Chapman is cooked  
mfsd : 10/20/2019 8:22 am : link
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He has made his career on his fastball, he has had more rest than anyone on this team and he completely lost it. Without a dominate fastball he is nothing more than a setup man now.

There is a lot to fix this offseason. Need a true Ace, 1B is a question mark, Didi is likely gone, need to hope Betances comes back strong and can be the guy to take over from Chapman. Who is our LF moving forward, hope they give Frazier a shot he needs to get his defense together this team needed his bat bad this postseason.



Agree 100% This guy is cooked. Sorry but he has looked bad for awhile now. He chokes on to many critical games, he cannot be trusted anymore especially in the postseason. They need to find another answer at closer period.



Lol. I jump on the thread late to see what the chatter is, and this is the first post I read.

Chapman was dominant all season. Go crawl back under whatever rock you were hiding under, stupid.



Yeah when the team was way ahead?! I bet you put this guy on another critical must win game, and he will choke again. Except it he is done..


Itís accept it, not except it. Something the rest of us learned in 3rd grade.
Can't Be Upset  
Jeffrey : 10/20/2019 8:35 am : link
How can any objective person be upset at the season? Disappointed in the ending--of course. However, considering the unbelievable amount of injuries this team endured at virtually every position, except Torres, this was an incredible year. Going forward, I just hope that the owner and GM continue to resist the big splashy free agents and stay the course. It's a young team, everywhere but on the mound. We do not need a Stanton type expense. Sign Betances. I would hate to say goodbye to Didi and Gardner, as one remains the heart of the team and the other deserves a pass coming back from a very serious injury and still only 30. Trade Frazier if you can get something decent back. Adios to Voit and EE and finally give up on Bird's potential. Keep Gio, not Maybin and go find a couple of younger pitchers, maybe one of whom is already there in Jordan Montgomery.
Great season.  
GiantsUA : 10/20/2019 8:37 am : link
My take away from the game was the home plate umpire was wildly inconsistent -

One of DJ's at bat's he called a pitch 2-3 inches out of the strike zone outside a strike and same at bat 2-3 inches out of the strike zone inside called a strike.

Seemed to me that more of these "out of the strike zone calls were going against the Yankees".

But either way, bad job by the UMP, changed batters approach and Yankee pitching.

Cessa got jobbed as well.
We need more DJ's and less EE's  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 8:46 am : link
Have to find guys who strike out far less than the guys on this team.

As much as I like him probably let Didi take his big payday from another team. Could see if Miggy can play 1b and have Miggy, DJ, Torres, Gio as your IF. Judge, Hicks, Fraizer as the OF. Since nobody is taking Stanton's huge contract he can be the DH when he is healthy and hang out with Ellsbury when he is not.

Oh yeah  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 8:47 am : link
The home plate ump needs to have his offshore bank accounts monitored. Changed the game on several occasions.
Bye-Bye Until Next Year  
Percy : 10/20/2019 8:48 am : link
Yankees gave us a great season. The better teams (e.g., Rays and Astros) revealed weaknesses in the Yankees, especially in team pitching (starters and a bullpen that turned out not to be as overwhelming as everyone had predicted), but also in team hitting -- they did not do as well in that department and do it as regularly as had been expected against some pretty ordinary pitching, pitching that, from teams that stocked very good pitchers, silenced and baffled them. Along the way, it must not be forgotten the Yankees had to and did overcome massive injuries to so many of their players that they could have filled more than a single hospital ward, finding people to fill in who were sensational surprises and proved to be great new contributors.

But in the end, the Astros were the better team. No two ways to say this. From top to bottom they were better. Last night's game, the one that turned out to be the Yankees' last for the season, started annoyingly.They gave up three runs in the first to the first few Astro batters and then, in their own halves of the first two innings, managed to leave five -- count 'em -- on base. Very discouraging. Demoralizing in the most crucial game yet played by the Yankees in this October. They did not recover until the ninth, when they excited all of us rooting for them in this frustrating contest by scoring two to tie it up. Great! New shot at it! Still alive! Only to have the Astros rip it away by doing the same thing in the last of the ninth, scoring two on a walk-off HR against our best closer, Chapman, to end the game.

Pretty incredible baseball drama! But we were on the losing end of it.

Big disappointment for the Yankees and their fans here and all over the globe. Now everything on and about the team will be criticized and, hopefully, redone offseason in ways that will enable it to do even better next year.

Grudging congrats must be given to the Astros team and its fans. They should be very proud and go on to win it all. We'll see you again next year.
It was a great season  
UConn4523 : 10/20/2019 9:18 am : link
havenít had that much fun watching them since I was a kid. Very likable and very resilient club.

They will make some tweak and content again next year. The timely hits didnít happen and that was the difference. A healthy Severino and Betances coming back are huge, something the trolls donít realize or refuse to admit since the only way you can win apparently is to have 3 aces. Well, we had all 3 aces with their backs against the ball and even just 1 hit changes this series.

Thatís baseball.
Will be rooting for the Nats for sure.  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/20/2019 9:22 am : link
The Astros are enjoying the near-dynastic run that we were supposed to have. Their lineup has another 3 maybe 5 year run, but pitching is more uncertain. That overlaps with our coreís prime as well. Unfortunately I feel their coaching staff is better so we will have to outspend them. It starts with Cole.

Fun ride while it lasted  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 9:22 am : link
They were just overmatched. Please fix the pitching Cashman! Hopefully looking at the quality of starters in the WS will convince him.
Who do some people think Cashman  
UConn4523 : 10/20/2019 9:27 am : link
doesnít want another top arm? I really donít get those comments. There isnít anything to ďfixĒ other than maybe injuries and suspensions which is what effected this series as well.

We lost because the players didnít execute (mainly the lineup) when it mattered most.
RE: This loss is still sitting with me the next day  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14634531 Matt M. said:
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It's really not a surprising outcome, but I still feel somewhat in shock.


Having DJ tie it and then have Vern Troyer beat us was a kick to the nuts.
Hopefully...  
jonnyess : 10/20/2019 9:39 am : link
...even after a decade....this will make NY area baseball fans stops forget about me.

- Armando Benitez
L.I. Ducks
RE: RE: This loss is still sitting with me the next day  
Percy : 10/20/2019 9:45 am : link
In comment 14634573 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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It's really not a surprising outcome, but I still feel somewhat in shock.



Having DJ tie it and then have Vern Troyer beat us was a kick to the nuts.

Totally. Just totally.
Chapman getting beat with his secondary  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 9:46 am : link
Pitch is something that has happened to this team all year !

Altuve is a great hitter and one of the best if not the best in the game. Should have just walked him.

But!!!!!! This game and series did not come down to that last pitch.

Yankees had guys on in every inning and failed to rally . This series is on the lineup, not the pitching!!!

The fact that they almost got this to 7 games was incredible.

Yankees need to find more guys like DJL and less like Stanton/EE.
I thought Boone misused Green this whole series  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/20/2019 9:48 am : link
should have started Happ and used green for critical relief.
RE: Fun ride while it lasted  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 9:50 am : link
In comment 14634570 giants_10_88 said:
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They were just overmatched. Please fix the pitching Cashman! Hopefully looking at the quality of starters in the WS will convince him.


Overmatched? Did we watch the same series? Were they swept, struck out 20 times in a game or non competitive? No they weren't. Did the Stros kick our pitchers asses and blow us away? Again no.

This series was nip and tuck, and it wasn't like they were dominated in any way. The Stros came through and made a few plays when they had the chances and the Yanks didn't make as many when they had theirs.
Eman  
UConn4523 : 10/20/2019 9:52 am : link
not worth it. Half these posts read like a 4 game sweep at a score of 30-0.
This is all I got...  
Carson53 : 10/20/2019 9:53 am : link
Pitching to Altuve in the bottom of the 9th inning with the score tied and two out in game 6 in the ALCS when you have somebody named Jake Marisnick up next.

That's some quality thinking right there Booney.
RE: RE: This loss is still sitting with me the next day  
section125 : 10/20/2019 10:12 am : link
In comment 14634573 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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It's really not a surprising outcome, but I still feel somewhat in shock.



Having DJ tie it and then have Vern Troyer beat us was a kick to the nuts.


Well Vern couldn't reach your nuts...

But, he is their best player. Could care less about Bregman, Altuve is the guy that drives that team. If there was one guy that was going to beat them, it was Altuve. When Chapman has his usual one man brain fart with Springer, I knew Altuve would be trouble.

And for those wishing to walk Altuve, who walks the winning run to 2nd base...?
Who calls the pitches ??? The Yankee pitchers  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 10:18 am : link
Have been beaten like a drum with their secondary pitches all year long.

As soon as Altuve didnít chase the fastball high and outside he should have been walked!!!

They follow analytics all year long !!! Canít tell me the right call was to throw a slider down 2-1 in the count.
RE: RE: RE: This loss is still sitting with me the next day  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 10:24 am : link
In comment 14634600 section125 said:
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It's really not a surprising outcome, but I still feel somewhat in shock.



Having DJ tie it and then have Vern Troyer beat us was a kick to the nuts.



Well Vern couldn't reach your nuts...

But, he is their best player. Could care less about Bregman, Altuve is the guy that drives that team. If there was one guy that was going to beat them, it was Altuve. When Chapman has his usual one man brain fart with Springer, I knew Altuve would be trouble.

And for those wishing to walk Altuve, who walks the winning run to 2nd base...?



Who throws a slider in a 2-1 count to the best hitter on their team?
RE: Who calls the pitches ??? The Yankee pitchers  
section125 : 10/20/2019 10:30 am : link
In comment 14634604 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:
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Have been beaten like a drum with their secondary pitches all year long.

As soon as Altuve didnít chase the fastball high and outside he should have been walked!!!

They follow analytics all year long !!! Canít tell me the right call was to throw a slider down 2-1 in the count.


Another walk the winning run to 2nd base advocate...

Do you remember how devastating that slider for Chapman was all year and it was getting better every month? And I guess you forgot the 103 mph FB that Devers hit of Chapman that was at eye level and Devers is not, nor will he ever be, Altuve.
RE: This is all I got...  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14634590 Carson53 said:
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Pitching to Altuve in the bottom of the 9th inning with the score tied and two out in game 6 in the ALCS when you have somebody named Jake Marisnick up next.

That's some quality thanking right there Booney.
Pitch around Altuve moves Springer into scoring position. I am sure that was the thinking. I think I would have taken my chances with Marisnick or a pinch hitter, but I can understand the logic.

Astros are a good team. Kind of interesting that in the year of HR, the two teams with 3 good starters made it to the WS.
RE: RE: Who calls the pitches ??? The Yankee pitchers  
Carson53 : 10/20/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14634613 section125 said:
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In comment 14634604 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:


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Have been beaten like a drum with their secondary pitches all year long.

As soon as Altuve didnít chase the fastball high and outside he should have been walked!!!

They follow analytics all year long !!! Canít tell me the right call was to throw a slider down 2-1 in the count.



Another walk the winning run to 2nd base advocate...

Do you remember how devastating that slider for Chapman was all year and it was getting better every month? And I guess you forgot the 103 mph FB that Devers hit of Chapman that was at eye level and Devers is not, nor will he ever be, Altuve.
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When you have Jake Marisnick sitting on deck, and the count reached 2-0, you walk Altuce. I'll take my chances
with Marisnick. Chapman had lost his fastball command
against Springer, and walked him.
Maybe he rediscovers it against Jake the Snake, but
I am NOT letting Altuve beat me. The Yanks had no margin for error, don't pitch to him, case closed, sorry.
Then Chapman has that shit ass smile on his face, like WTF is that?
RE: RE: This is all I got...  
Carson53 : 10/20/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14634627 HomerJones45 said:
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Pitching to Altuve in the bottom of the 9th inning with the score tied and two out in game 6 in the ALCS when you have somebody named Jake Marisnick up next.

That's some quality thanking right there Booney.

Pitch around Altuve moves Springer into scoring position. I am sure that was the thinking. I think I would have taken my chances with Marisnick or a pinch hitter, but I can understand the logic.

Astros are a good team. Kind of interesting that in the year of HR, the two teams with 3 good starters made it to the WS.
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And the two teams with the most HR's didn't.
Turns out there were serious holes in the lineup  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 10:53 am : link
Edwin, Didi, and Gardner all turned out to be big holes in the lineup. Stanton was a hole by virtue of being a no-show. That's a big bat missing in a series where a run here or there would have made a big difference.
RE: Turns out there were serious holes in the lineup  
KingBlue : 10/20/2019 11:00 am : link
In comment 14634639 HomerJones45 said:
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Edwin, Didi, and Gardner all turned out to be big holes in the lineup. Stanton was a hole by virtue of being a no-show. That's a big bat missing in a series where a run here or there would have made a big difference.


Don't forget Sanchez
RE: RE: RE: Who calls the pitches ??? The Yankee pitchers  
section125 : 10/20/2019 11:06 am : link
In comment 14634633 Carson53 said:
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Have been beaten like a drum with their secondary pitches all year long.

As soon as Altuve didnít chase the fastball high and outside he should have been walked!!!

They follow analytics all year long !!! Canít tell me the right call was to throw a slider down 2-1 in the count.



Another walk the winning run to 2nd base advocate...

Do you remember how devastating that slider for Chapman was all year and it was getting better every month? And I guess you forgot the 103 mph FB that Devers hit of Chapman that was at eye level and Devers is not, nor will he ever be, Altuve.

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When you have Jake Marisnick sitting on deck, and the count reached 2-0, you walk Altuce. I'll take my chances
with Marisnick. Chapman had lost his fastball command
against Springer, and walked him.
Maybe he rediscovers it against Jake the Snake, but
I am NOT letting Altuve beat me. The Yanks had no margin for error, don't pitch to him, case closed, sorry.
Then Chapman has that shit ass smile on his face, like WTF is that?


Oh, and Chapman never lost FB command mid-outing this season and then got it back next batter.

Well your opinion...end of story.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Who calls the pitches ??? The Yankee pitchers  
Carson53 : 10/20/2019 11:11 am : link
In comment 14634648 section125 said:
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Have been beaten like a drum with their secondary pitches all year long.

As soon as Altuve didnít chase the fastball high and outside he should have been walked!!!

They follow analytics all year long !!! Canít tell me the right call was to throw a slider down 2-1 in the count.



Another walk the winning run to 2nd base advocate...

Do you remember how devastating that slider for Chapman was all year and it was getting better every month? And I guess you forgot the 103 mph FB that Devers hit of Chapman that was at eye level and Devers is not, nor will he ever be, Altuve.

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When you have Jake Marisnick sitting on deck, and the count reached 2-0, you walk Altuce. I'll take my chances
with Marisnick. Chapman had lost his fastball command
against Springer, and walked him.
Maybe he rediscovers it against Jake the Snake, but
I am NOT letting Altuve beat me. The Yanks had no margin for error, don't pitch to him, case closed, sorry.
Then Chapman has that shit ass smile on his face, like WTF is that?



Oh, and Chapman never lost FB command mid-outing this season and then got it back next batter.

Well your opinion...end of story.
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Actually he has, you weren't paying close enough attention. He also got beat on his second best pitch last night to a hitter like Altuve, c'mon you can't do that,
if you are not going to walk him.
RE: Eman  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 11:59 am : link
In comment 14634589 UConn4523 said:
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not worth it. Half these posts read like a 4 game sweep at a score of 30-0.


You're right man and I should know better by now. I'm usually one to let the little things in life just go by as you're right it's not worth it.

The thing is though, I love my teams and they've all been a part of the track of my life and sometimes I feel the need to defend like I would family and friends. I know it's not the same but in a way it kind of is to me.

I'm definitely going to work on ignoring more of those types of posts moving forward but it's a shame how for the most part these threads were pretty great all year. Then when we should be really into it and enjoying where they are, we get so many bullshit posts.
Eman..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 12:40 pm : link
it was tough.

There were two posters who didn't say jackshit during the season who all of a sudden are on the game threads.

I don't know why they kept posting when the series was over after game 2....
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Who calls the pitches ??? The Yankee pitchers  
section125 : 10/20/2019 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14634654 Carson53 said:
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Actually he has, you weren't paying close enough attention. He also got beat on his second best pitch last night to a hitter like Altuve, c'mon you can't do that,
if you are not going to walk him.


It was sarcasm. He loses the zone often and regains it. You are not paying attention, so fixated on placing a man on second...and his slider was not unoften his best pitch. Whatever, it is not like Altuve can't hit a FB.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Who calls the pitches ??? The Yankee pitchers  
Carson53 : 10/20/2019 2:49 pm : link
In comment 14634816 section125 said:
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Actually he has, you weren't paying close enough attention. He also got beat on his second best pitch last night to a hitter like Altuve, c'mon you can't do that,
if you are not going to walk him.



It was sarcasm. He loses the zone often and regains it. You are not paying attention, so fixated on placing a man on second...and his slider was not unoften his best pitch. Whatever, it is not like Altuve can't hit a FB.
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I was paying better attention than Booney, with his Skippy Magoo moment.
You walk Altuve, that's what I said above.
There were other reasons they lost the series,
as I said, when you are down 3-2 in the series,
can't let THAT guy beat you in that situation.
I stand by that feeling. I am sure a lot of people feel that way as well. No margin for error needs to change your approach in that situation.
Yanks had no business  
Jay in Toronto : 10/20/2019 2:57 pm : link
Finishing where they did.

Great season of guys stepping up.

I'm grateful. Thank you Yankees!

Don't get the sour grapes.
The idea  
Homersimpson : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
that you walk the winning run into scoring position where any bloop or bleeder ends the game is just absolutely idiotic. That's baseball 101...you don't walk Altuve there unless the bases are empty.
Wow this thread has turned into a joke  
jgambrosio : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
Worse than Giants game threads
Altuve is a top 5 player in MLB  
arniefez : 10/20/2019 4:21 pm : link
Chapman threw his slider all year with excellent results. Unfortunately he threw a horrible one to the wrong guy. It was a fun regular season and the usual playoff results. Now weíll see if Cashman will adjust or just keep doing the same thing over and over.
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