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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/20/2019 9:48 am
went from nice weather they were claiming earlier in the week  
Matt in SGS : 10/20/2019 9:54 am : link
to now it should be showers with it turning to rain as the game moves along.
I see Kyler  
XBRONX : 10/20/2019 9:55 am : link
eating up our dreadful secondary.
We should be airing it out today, its going to be rainy, but there's  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 9:57 am : link
no wind. Evan Engram and Saquon out the backfield all day. I do worry about the dinky Arizona offense in the wet conditions.
We'll go as Daniel goes today....  
nzyme : 10/20/2019 9:59 am : link
Hopefully he's learned from some of the mistakes he's made so far. If he plays well I believe we'll win. Not sure what to expect from Saquon today other than I hope to hell he leaves this game healthy!!!
Coming off an ankle, and expected rainy conditions  
micky : 10/20/2019 10:08 am : link
Barkley better be careful.
The key to this game is stoppoing Murray from running for 100 yards!  
SterlingArcher : 10/20/2019 10:37 am : link
Get ahead early and force Murray to be an NFL qb and not a sandlot qb.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/20/2019 10:47 am : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Inactive warmup group: QB Alex Tanney, TE Garrett Dickerson, OL Chad Slade, OL Eric Smith, OLB Chris Peace and CB Corey Ballentine. Ballentine and WR Sterling Shepard already ruled out with concussions.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/20/2019 10:49 am : link
In comment 14634630 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Inactive warmup group: QB Alex Tanney, TE Garrett Dickerson, OL Chad Slade, OL Eric Smith, OLB Chris Peace and CB Corey Ballentine. Ballentine and WR Sterling Shepard already ruled out with concussions.


Interesting that Kaden Smith appears to have moved ahead of Garrett Dickerson.
RE: I see Kyler  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 10:51 am : link
In comment 14634594 XBRONX said:
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eating up our dreadful secondary.

I can Ogltree and Peppers spying him well, concerned about him killing or edge contain.
Just win  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 10:55 am : link
baby!
RE: I see Kyler  
Big Blue '56 : 10/20/2019 11:07 am : link
In comment 14634594 XBRONX said:
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eating up our dreadful secondary.


I see it that way as well, not to mention his legs as well. :(
Turnovers are an issue  
gmenatlarge : 10/20/2019 11:11 am : link
With this team, need to win the turnover stat today in rainy conditions.
I can't remember the last time going into a Giants game where  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 11:14 am : link
I was certain they were going to score 30 plus points.
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christian : 10/20/2019 11:14 am : link
The Giants should be able to run all over the Cards and their terrible run defense.

Barkley is fresh and presumably healed. These are the games why you pick him no. 2.
The Cards played the Bengals and the Falcons the last two  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 11:15 am : link
weeks, both those teams absolutely suck. I don't understand people being scared of Murray. Fitzgerald on the other day is going to have a field day against Haley, but outside him I just don't see anyone doing that much damage.
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Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 11:18 am : link
In comment 14634660 christian said:
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The Giants should be able to run all over the Cards and their terrible run defense.

Barkley is fresh and presumably healed. These are the games why you pick him no. 2.


The Cards run defense isn't as bad as their numbers, they've been playing from some large deficits, played Lamar Jackson, and CMC busted off like a 90 yard td on them. I think we should be coming at this game with a very balanced approach, their pass d is worse than their rush d.
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bLiTz 2k : 10/20/2019 11:23 am : link
In comment 14634664 Zeke's Alibi said:
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The Giants should be able to run all over the Cards and their terrible run defense.

Barkley is fresh and presumably healed. These are the games why you pick him no. 2.



The Cards run defense isn't as bad as their numbers, they've been playing from some large deficits, played Lamar Jackson, and CMC busted off like a 90 yard td on them. I think we should be coming at this game with a very balanced approach, their pass d is worse than their rush d.


I think there are few key stats that the Giants should exploit...They give up a ton of yardage on 1st down, they have trouble stopping runs in between the tackles, and their LBs and Safeties cant cover over the middle. Their D can rush the passer, and their edge players are excellent (When the hell is Suggs gonna slow down?). If I'm Shurmur I dont even try to run outside. Quick hitters out of shotgun in between the tackles, and play action to Engram behind the Lbs.
This game is not only Pat Shurmur's line in the sand...  
M.S. : 10/20/2019 11:23 am : link

...as Head Coach of the New York Giants, but as a future NFL Head Coach anywhere.
RE: I see Kyler  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 11:32 am : link
In comment 14634594 XBRONX said:
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eating up our dreadful secondary.


Quite possible. I hope we see more of Love today, but Haley and Bethea are real liabilities. We need to run the ball well to keep Kyler off the field. The good news is that their run defense is very poor.
This is going to be a high scoring game  
PatersonPlank : 10/20/2019 11:41 am : link
Barkley and Engram will tear them up, but our D can't stop anyone
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DavidinBMNY : 10/20/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14634634 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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2m
Inactive warmup group: QB Alex Tanney, TE Garrett Dickerson, OL Chad Slade, OL Eric Smith, OLB Chris Peace and CB Corey Ballentine. Ballentine and WR Sterling Shepard already ruled out with concussions.



Interesting that Kaden Smith appears to have moved ahead of Garrett Dickerson.
Very. Especially against this Defense today.
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Jay on the Island : 10/20/2019 11:54 am : link
In comment 14634634 Eric from BBI said:
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Interesting that Kaden Smith appears to have moved ahead of Garrett Dickerson.

I hope they give this kid some playing time over the rest of the season. I think TE is a bigger need than most realize. Engram is a stud but they need a better #2 TE that can contribute more than Ellison as a receiver. Ellison will be a cap casualty this offseason so the FO needs to bring in another TE who is a suitable option next to Engram.
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christian : 10/20/2019 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14634664 Zeke's Alibi said:
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The Giants should be able to run all over the Cards and their terrible run defense.

Barkley is fresh and presumably healed. These are the games why you pick him no. 2.



The Cards run defense isn't as bad as their numbers, they've been playing from some large deficits, played Lamar Jackson, and CMC busted off like a 90 yard td on them. I think we should be coming at this game with a very balanced approach, their pass d is worse than their rush d.


The weather is going to be very bad today.

If the above indicates the Cards are susceptible to 1) a QB who can move the chains 2) a RB who can pop big gains 3) can't stop the run when down -- all of that should bode well for the Giants.
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AcidTest : 10/20/2019 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14634630 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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2m
Inactive warmup group: QB Alex Tanney, TE Garrett Dickerson, OL Chad Slade, OL Eric Smith, OLB Chris Peace and CB Corey Ballentine. Ballentine and WR Sterling Shepard already ruled out with concussions.


I know it won't happen, but I'd really like to see some changes to the OL. Solder and Remmers can't handle speed rushers, and Zeitler is clearly hurt.
Excited to see another week of....  
UticaMike : 10/20/2019 12:13 pm : link
Mayo and Tree on the inside. This defense is getting better. Slowly. But it’s happening. Lawrence, Hill, Tomlinson seem to be a little bit more disruptive each week. Baker is gaining confidence. Peppers getting comfortable and making some plays. The cupboard is not nearly as bare as people thought.
RE: Excited to see another week of....  
Giantz_comeback : 10/20/2019 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14634697 UticaMike said:
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Mayo and Tree on the inside. This defense is getting better. Slowly. But it’s happening. Lawrence, Hill, Tomlinson seem to be a little bit more disruptive each week. Baker is gaining confidence. Peppers getting comfortable and making some plays. The cupboard is not nearly as bare as people thought.


Agreed. Real young on D but peices starting to acclimate,mature and come together.

On O we have most of our key players back.
We should win this game .  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 12:24 pm : link
Ball control keep Murray off the field
Turnovers can't give these guy short field
or special teams TD .
Not sure what to expect from Barkley I hope
there is not much of any rain .
Jones has to have a turnover free game .
Keep Murray in the pocket and hopefully get
on top early and put this game away early .
Big game  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/20/2019 12:25 pm : link
for a lot of reasons.

Hopefully the time off helps Zeitler and Remmers with their injuries. Really like to see them get the run game going.

Inclement weather so Jones really has to protect the ball (interceptions and fumbles).

On D, let's start being above average stopping the run. They should have better production with the DL they have.
Line just moved  
armstead98 : 10/20/2019 12:34 pm : link
From Giants -3 to -3.5, a nice sign that the markets favor the Giants quite a bit in this spot
RE: Excited to see another week of....  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 12:44 pm : link
In comment 14634697 UticaMike said:
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Mayo and Tree on the inside. This defense is getting better. Slowly. But it’s happening. Lawrence, Hill, Tomlinson seem to be a little bit more disruptive each week. Baker is gaining confidence. Peppers getting comfortable and making some plays. The cupboard is not nearly as bare as people thought.

DG has transomed the Giants into a LB factory! Mayo, tree, and Connolly is a + unit. Excellent moves to obtain Mayo, who very might have been something of a gem buried under Kuechly and Davis. Tremendous to see LBs leading in tackles, haven't seen that in a long ass time.
RE: RE: Excited to see another week of....  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14634727 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Mayo and Tree on the inside. This defense is getting better. Slowly. But it’s happening. Lawrence, Hill, Tomlinson seem to be a little bit more disruptive each week. Baker is gaining confidence. Peppers getting comfortable and making some plays. The cupboard is not nearly as bare as people thought.


DG has transomed the Giants into a LB factory! Mayo, tree, and Connolly is a + unit. Excellent moves to obtain Mayo, who very might have been something of a gem buried under Kuechly and Davis. Tremendous to see LBs leading in tackles, haven't seen that in a long ass time.
The "gem" signed a two year contract with the Niners who let him go in August. The only reason he's here is he's an ex-Panther. More like coal in the stocking.
RE: Line just moved  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14634716 armstead98 said:
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From Giants -3 to -3.5, a nice sign that the markets favor the Giants quite a bit in this spot
They should; the Cardinals are terrible.
Nice pic  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/20/2019 1:01 pm : link
of the last great Giants OL. Diehl is huge and O'Hara looks like the GM of the group.
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