After a bitter and disappointing end to the just concluded
baseball season (for the Yanks), this is what I would like to see next season.
The Yanks don't hand out the captaincy easily.
The names of people like Munson (my fav. all time Yankee),
Mattingly, and Jeter have worn the captaincy hat for this organization in the past.
It's obvious to me who the real leader of this team is.
With CC retiring, and Gardner may or may not be back,
I think it's time for Judge to be named captain here!
I am talking about leadership, not long term contracts.
That's what I am talking about, he carries himself similar
to a Jeter in my eyes. As I mentioned, they don't hand out the captaincy role easily around here.
Have you watched the other baserunning blunders on this team this past year? It took a great catch for that DP
last night, by the way.
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Have you watched the other baserunning blunders on this team this past year? It took a great catch for that DP
last night, by the way.
What does anybody else's blunders have to do with Judge? So because other people fuck up that means it is okay for him to do so? I don't necessarily disagree with making him a captain but can you think of a worse time to do so?
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Have you watched the other baserunning blunders on this team this past year? It took a great catch for that DP
last night, by the way.
And, also, it was a fuckin moronic decision by Judge. Was he going to 3rd base on the hit of it landed? No. So what the fuck was he doing? It was a major fuck up. No other way to rationalize it.
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Have you watched the other baserunning blunders on this team this past year? It took a great catch for that DP
last night, by the way.
What does anybody else's blunders have to do with Judge? So because other people fuck up that means it is okay for him to do so? I don't necessarily disagree with making him a captain but can you think of a worse time to do so?
Well, the most unlikely player on that team made a great
play, what can you say? No one thinks Michael Friggin Brantley is going to make a great defensive play, let me tell you. Sure Judge got too far down the line, and was caught. Brantley was replaced an inning later for defensive purposes, just saying.
I am not sure what that has to do with being named captain of this team. Lets not have emotions run too high, we all know it was a tough way to end the season.
Huh, if Brantley doesn't dive that ball is not getting past him. You don't go as far as Judge did on a play like that. And if for some crazy it gets by him then you take the extra base. I feel like some of you never played. Judge will tell you himself he fucked up.
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His judgement on the bases has been really good this year.
Huh, if Brantley doesn't dive that ball is not getting past him. You don't go as far as Judge did on a play like that. And if for some crazy it gets by him then you take the extra base. I feel like some of you never played. Judge will tell you himself he fucked up.
The fact is he did dive, and he's not a good outfielder, are you aware of that. Still missing the point of my original thread my friend, peace, I'm out.
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His judgement on the bases has been really good this year.
Huh, if Brantley doesn't dive that ball is not getting past him. You don't go as far as Judge did on a play like that. And if for some crazy it gets by him then you take the extra base. I feel like some of you never played. Judge will tell you himself he fucked up.
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The fact is he did dive, and he's not a good outfielder, are you aware of that. Still missing the point of my original thread my friend, peace, I'm out.
Holy shit. You don't run bases assuming a guy dives and misses a ball. No offense but you sound ridiculous. If a play is close then you go half way, maybe slightly more than half way where you will be safe whether it is caught or not caught. You don't run all the way to second base. It was idiotic and you defending it makes you lose credibility. It is okay to admit a player fucked up. It doesn't mean I think Judge sucks. As I said earlier I don't disagree with your opinion of making him a captain but the timing would be piss poor and imo he needs to prove more than he has so far to be named the captain. But that play was bullshit no matter which say you slice it.
Jeter - had won multiple world series before being named Captain, and was 8 years in.
Mattingly - never won a world series but played 9 years before being named Captain.
Randolph & Guidry were Co-Captains, they were 11 and 10 years into their Yankee tenures and had won 2 World Series, been runners up in another.
Nettles was named Captain after 10 years and 2 world series wins.
Munson won his 2 world series titles in the 2 years right after being named Captain, but he played 7 yearsbefore being named Captain.
After that you go all the way back to Gehrig, so this seams like a place to draw the line.
Judge has just finished his forth season, and has no World Series wins. Assuming the Yankees don't win in the next two years. Munson is the lowest end of the bar at 7 years/no world series wins.
The recent history of Yankee Captains means that Judge is 3-5 more seasons away from reaching consideration for Captain status. Don't get me wrong, he's totally on track to be named Captain. But minus some real signature World Series moments in the next two years, Judge isn't experienced enough to be named Captain right now.
Jeter - had won multiple world series before being named Captain, and was 8 years in.
Mattingly - never won a world series but played 9 years before being named Captain.
Randolph & Guidry were Co-Captains, they were 11 and 10 years into their Yankee tenures and had won 2 World Series, been runners up in another.
Nettles was named Captain after 10 years and 2 world series wins.
Munson won his 2 world series titles in the 2 years right after being named Captain, but he played 7 yearsbefore being named Captain.
After that you go all the way back to Gehrig, so this seams like a place to draw the line.
Judge has just finished his forth season, and has no World Series wins. Assuming the Yankees don't win in the next two years. Munson is the lowest end of the bar at 7 years/no world series wins.
The recent history of Yankee Captains means that Judge is 3-5 more seasons away from reaching consideration for Captain status. Don't get me wrong, he's totally on track to be named Captain. But minus some real signature World Series moments in the next two years, Judge isn't experienced enough to be named Captain right now.
Some good points, like the input.
I am not sure there is a definitive timeframe though.
This group is a younger group in general.
Most of the teams/captains you mentioned it seemed had more of a veteran team.
I had forgot about Nettles as a captain, he was a bit of a character, LOL.
Good to see some can stay on point, and not go off on a tangent.
My suggestion to some others, start you own discussion if you want!
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not be a condition for being named Captain, or have more years in than Judge?
Jeter - had won multiple world series before being named Captain, and was 8 years in.
Mattingly - never won a world series but played 9 years before being named Captain.
Randolph & Guidry were Co-Captains, they were 11 and 10 years into their Yankee tenures and had won 2 World Series, been runners up in another.
Nettles was named Captain after 10 years and 2 world series wins.
Munson won his 2 world series titles in the 2 years right after being named Captain, but he played 7 yearsbefore being named Captain.
After that you go all the way back to Gehrig, so this seams like a place to draw the line.
Judge has just finished his forth season, and has no World Series wins. Assuming the Yankees don't win in the next two years. Munson is the lowest end of the bar at 7 years/no world series wins.
The recent history of Yankee Captains means that Judge is 3-5 more seasons away from reaching consideration for Captain status. Don't get me wrong, he's totally on track to be named Captain. But minus some real signature World Series moments in the next two years, Judge isn't experienced enough to be named Captain right now.
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Some good points, like the input.
I am not sure there is a definitive timeframe though.
This group is a younger group in general.
Most of the teams/captains you mentioned it seemed had more of a veteran team.
I had forgot about Nettles as a captain, he was a bit of a character, LOL.
Good to see some can stay on point, and not go off on a tangent.
My suggestion to some others, start you own discussion if you want!
Haha. I was on the topic. You were the one cherry picking the part about the baserunning. Go back and read my posts. I said this was a weird time to bring this up after his error in judgment. It was solely about the baserunning which you were harping on. There is a clear difference between using supporting evidence and you not liking what you are hearing to criticize others. 🤦♂️