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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/20/2019 12:46 pm
Nothing has changed for me.  
Big Blue '56 : 10/20/2019 12:48 pm : link
Murray (mostly his legs keeping drives alive) can kill us. Last time we stopped a running, elusive, QB?
No injuries!  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 12:48 pm : link
Especially to Barkley!
Why is Goodell here  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 12:50 pm : link
A game between two bad teams.
RE: Why is Goodell here  
micky : 10/20/2019 12:53 pm : link
In comment 14634738 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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A game between two bad teams.


Maybe for next yrs draft to see what team is thinking for #2 pick behind Miami
RUN RUN RUN THE BALL  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 12:59 pm : link
.
Kyler Murray  
cjohn2979 : 10/20/2019 1:00 pm : link
Better hope Dexter Lawrence doesnt step on him.
RE: Why is Goodell here  
Mike in NY : 10/20/2019 1:03 pm : link
In comment 14634738 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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A game between two bad teams.


Maybe had meetings with Alberto Riveron
Too  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:06 pm : link
easy, and Baker missed the tackle.
Ok another 3rd and five  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:06 pm : link
How about not giving six yard cushions?
Same old 3rd down  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:06 pm : link
Defense. Maddening
Peppers with a missed  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:07 pm : link
tackle.
Brilliant 3rd down  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:07 pm : link
defense again.
RE: Same old 3rd down  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14634759 jpkmets said:
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Defense. Maddening


don't understand why we're still playing off coverage on 3rd down. drives me nuts.
Ok, 3rd and six  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:07 pm : link
Make a damn play!
RE: Kyler Murray  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14634750 cjohn2979 said:
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Better hope Dexter Lawrence doesnt step on him.


Let's not make fun of Murray's size until we're sure he doesn't put up 35 points against us.
Gary Coleman  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 1:07 pm : link
LoOKs pretty solid.
Cards:  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
"Love the 3rd down!"
Betcher needs to go  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
Hes Tim Lewis
RE: RE: Same old 3rd down  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
In comment 14634762 markky said:
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In comment 14634759 jpkmets said:


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Defense. Maddening



don't understand why we're still playing off coverage on 3rd down. drives me nuts.


Agreed.
Here comes the third straight  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
3rd down. Can they ever get a stop?
Line is doing a good job maintaining lanea  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
on pass rush.
Why is Michael Thomas playing as a Dime CB today?  
nyjuggernaut2 : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
?
Haley takes shit here  
Carl in CT : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
But plays the run well
IDK...  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
DC is already calling a bad game?? So much cushion? Why?? its just bad!
Hey, we didn't miss a tackle  
CT Charlie : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
!
Cards gotta go for it  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:08 pm : link
Here against this d
That was a gimme  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:09 pm : link
Man I hate watching this D
Teams going for it on 4th down  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:09 pm : link
On opening series of the game.
Cant get off the field  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 1:09 pm : link
Same old story.
This defense...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:09 pm : link
Come on.
of course they get it  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:09 pm : link
we need to play closer on the other team's side of the field. bring pressure, take some chances. these long drives are maddening.
Can't  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
get off the field.
Cards:  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
""Love the 4th down!"
Lol you know the Giants are bad when they go on 4th down!!  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
Giants need a new DC..
RE: Teams going for it on 4th down  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
In comment 14634777 nygfaninorlando said:
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On opening series of the game.


Teams should never punt against this D outside of their own 30 or so.
Taking half the quarter on the opening drive  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
This defense is a joke.
The Rodney Dangerfield  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
Of NFL defenses. No respect.
I can't wait until Bettcher-and this entire coaching staff really-  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
is gone.
Lets defer and allow our crappy D to set the tempo  
nyjuggernaut2 : 10/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
Lol
Pat why do you always defer?  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
So that will force us to come from behind, of course.
Lol. What a wretched  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
Defensive series.
Bettcher has to get his defense to improve on 3rd down  
NY-Fan : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
or he needs to go. They are to soft and give to much on 3rd down. They let the offense take it to them instead of taking it to the offense.
we must lead the league in giving up long drives on the first  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
possession. all we do is wear our D down early.
Just  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
pathetic.
Back breaking  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
conversions. Just can't make 3rd or 4th down plays.
What a bunch of fucking losers.  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
.
What an opening drive  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
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D is brutal  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
Against "trick" edge run plays.
Remind me why does Shurmur  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
keep deferring to the second half? Geesh this guy is clueless.
This  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
is the 13th play of this drive.
Seven weeks in  
NYerInMA : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
and the defense still has no idea what they're doing. Yikes.
and there is is.  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:11 pm : link
the D is worn down, we give up the first possession TD. I'm beginning to hate Betcher.
RE: Remind me why does Shurmur  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14634798 nygfaninorlando said:
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keep deferring to the second half? Geesh this guy is clueless.


Were always down when Jones gets the ball
Bethea may as well not be out there.  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
.
10 days off playing against a West Coast team that's below  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
in the 1 PM EST time slot...

I just can't. Just f*cking pathetic.
Lol  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
Just have to 😂🤣😂
.  
Banks : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
what a shitty start
Im up in 335  
Giants86 : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
So I see everything. D is beyond bad
Glad Bettcher used those extra days to prepare  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
Jeesh
RE: Can't  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14634781 AcidTest said:
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get off the field.


Every week. Same stuff. And they talk about Betcher exactly like they they did about McAdoo. Smart. Innovative. Except you never see or hear anything like that week after week.
Just  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
awful. We got beat right down the field. They didn't even have any large plays.
What a fuckig joke  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
this pussy-ass defense is.
I think we're going to have a make a move at DC  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 1:12 pm : link
the problem is scheme as much as anything.
Like a  
antdog24 : 10/20/2019 1:13 pm : link
Hot knife through butter.
What makes Bettcher better than Fewell?  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:13 pm : link
I'm all ears.
RE: Remind me why does Shurmur  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14634798 nygfaninorlando said:
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keep deferring to the second half? Geesh this guy is clueless.


exactly. just clueless. if I were Shurmur I'd walk over and Buddy Ryan Betcher right in the face. this is just so frustrating. 5 minutes into the game and I'm already pissed off.
Where was  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/20/2019 1:13 pm : link
D. Lawrence?
Giving a bad coaching staff 10 days to prep  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 1:13 pm : link
is a net negative, lol
RE: I think we're going to have a make a move at DC  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14634812 bigbluescot said:
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the problem is scheme as much as anything.


Yup. They never seem to know what theyre doing. Thats coaching
Well  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:13 pm : link
Giants defense had no idea how to even slow
this offense down . Good Luck Beltcher
were gonna have to score 35 points to have
a chance at this rate .
You know your defense  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:13 pm : link
sucks, so why put them on the field when you win the coin toss? Put your offense on the field and try and let the Defense play with a lead. Shurmur is clueless.
You know whats makes it worse.....  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 1:14 pm : link
Is that they even have a better OFFENSIVE coordinator too! Great play-calling by their OC, just completely exposed the Giants like they did their homework! Watch Shitty Shumur's play-calling like he didnt do his homework..
RE: What makes Bettcher better than Fewell?  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14634814 FStubbs said:
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I'm all ears.


Fewell won a Super Bowl. This guy isnt in his league
People complain about the stupidest shit  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 1:14 pm : link
Of course you defer, scoring into half and than getting the ball is the biggest momentum mover in football. Belichick always defers, always.
RE: Giving a bad coaching staff 10 days to prep  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14634818 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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is a net negative, lol


Lol
Is it personnel?  
BlueManCrew : 10/20/2019 1:14 pm : link
Or coaching? Or both? Absolutely terrible defense.
Is someone slipping estrogen to our defensive players?  
fivehead : 10/20/2019 1:14 pm : link
What a bunch of sissies.
if we're just going to give up the TD anyway  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:14 pm : link
wouldn't it be BETTER if we had brought the house the first two times we had the Cards on third down, when they couldn't go for it on fourth down if they missed? and if we screwed up and gave up a long TD who cares? it's better than keeping your D out there for 14 plays and wearing them down.

just so stupid.
bettcher  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 1:14 pm : link
really coached these guys up. Has them playing well and with a purpose. Amazing coaching staff.
This defense  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 1:15 pm : link
Offers less resistance than a bank of subway turnstiles.....shurmur defers, cannot wait till we return the favor to him and his fellow loser coaches.
Expect we'll go 3 and out here  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:15 pm : link
Coaching sucks.
This score is going to be like 100-99  
PatersonPlank : 10/20/2019 1:15 pm : link
I just hope we have the ball last
Well, at least  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:15 pm : link
no, I've got nothing, that was terrible.
If I were the Cardinals  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/20/2019 1:15 pm : link
I would go for it on every single 4 th down i side the 50 of n morethN 6 yards
Bethea is absolutely useless out there  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
He made no effort getting to Edmunds there.
RE: Is it personnel?  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14634827 BlueManCrew said:
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Or coaching? Or both? Absolutely terrible defense.


The personnel was overhauled to 3-4 to fit Bettcher's scheme. And so far, it hasn't worked. This defense might be the league's worst.
Nice job  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
Golden Tate.
Here comes the rain ...  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
It may help us
Jones off the mark already
RE: RE: Remind me why does Shurmur  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14634802 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14634798 nygfaninorlando said:


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keep deferring to the second half? Geesh this guy is clueless.



Were always down when Jones gets the ball


Has anyone asked him that?
RE: Is it personnel?  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14634827 BlueManCrew said:
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Or coaching? Or both? Absolutely terrible defense.


some bad players, but it's also scheme. we need to create pressure and take some chances. that conservative 3rd down technique was stupid.
Golden Tate with a top level  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
Effort, cant wait till hes cut
RE: People complain about the stupidest shit  
riceneggs : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14634825 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Of course you defer, scoring into half and than getting the ball is the biggest momentum mover in football. Belichick always defers, always.


Belichick has a great defense and the best QB of all time. he can gamble on things like that.

we cant
Alligator arms  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
Tate
Nice work  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
Jonesy!
Lets go slant pass Shurmur!  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
.
Jones  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
Learn fucking slide, jeez
Daniel Jones rolls for a first down! Thought  
SGMen : 10/20/2019 1:16 pm : link
he was going to get creamed there..
DJ8 out rushing Murray  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 1:17 pm : link
.
Remmers getting abused  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 1:18 pm : link
.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:18 pm : link
cards defense blows. but its the giants, so they can get right today haha
What a fantastic job  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:18 pm : link
by the rebuilt offensive line so far.
Jones on jones  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:18 pm : link
.
Great start.  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:18 pm : link
Team is still hard to watch. Shurmur and Bettcher have to go. 10 days to prepare and this is the garbage they come out with.
What a disaster  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 1:18 pm : link
.
Turnover  
TommyWiseau : 10/20/2019 1:18 pm : link
Machine
Jones throws into double coverage  
NYerInMA : 10/20/2019 1:18 pm : link
Unsurprisingly, it's picked. Offense looks as bad as the defense thus far.
Jones has looked bad for awhile now  
Sean : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
Awful INT
Great throw right there !  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
Oy
You can't make that throw  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
man.
lol play calls are bad he can;t finds anyone??  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
....
Game over.  
fivehead : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
Awesome team we have here.
Big difference in offensive scheme between these two teams.  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
Murray hasnt had to make a tough throw, but Jones has to do everything himself.
Not good  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
Forcing it into double coverage
That's terrible.  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
.
WTF Is Jones looking at  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
This guy is really regressing !!!!
First interception for cards D  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
.
Picked off  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
Cards in business
horrible  
bigblue18 : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
throw
If they score  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
Time to hit the links
Fucking awful throw  
illmatic : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
Holy shit.
RE: What a fantastic job  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14634852 jcn56 said:
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by the rebuilt offensive line so far.


We've dramatically improved the OL as a unit!
daniel jones  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 1:19 pm : link
new comp

jameis winston with legs
That's the worst INT ive seen Jones throw.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
.
Jones had a nice start to his career  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
but he's been steadily regressing.
Murray is way ahead of Jones right now.  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
He's making rookie mistakes.

Though the offensive line isn't helping.
Jones has really been bad since Tampa  
jogo1 : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
.
RE: Not good  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14634864 jeff57 said:
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Forcing it into double coverage


Yep poor decision making. So much for the extra time to prepare
Terrible  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
decision by Jones.

They go 13 plays and 75 yards for a TD. We go six plays and have an INT, preceded by a sack.
RE: Jones had a nice start to his career  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14634875 bigbluescot said:
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but he's been steadily regressing.


Seeing that as well..early though
That's a horrible  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
INT. Really bad.
Why spot at 32?  
yankeeslover : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
Wasnt he down by contact?
Need to give Jones  
SomeFan : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
Shorter pass plays
They automatically..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
review all turnovers.

How the fuck do they keep the spot at the 32?
They go up 14 0  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
& this might be over.
WOW  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
Why the eff did he throw that?????????
Well This is unpromising.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
.
The kid is a bust  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
Too bad. Manning should be warming up.
that throw was mind boggling  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
did he really think that he could get the ball in there?
Shurmurs offense sucks  
NY-Fan : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
No creativity at all and he has no feel for the flow of the game.
Offensive line is fucking horrible and receivers STILL cant get  
PhiPsi125 : 10/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
any separation. Awesome situation for rookie QB with a limited playbook.
Totally  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
unprepared D
Refs give Arizona 13 yards  
Mike in NY : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
.
God awful  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
On the edge, ugly
Cardinals showing lots  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
of creativity. What is Shurmur showing?
great tackle by Haley....  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
don't see that often with this defense.
RE: Jones had a nice start to his career  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
In comment 14634875 bigbluescot said:
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but he's been steadily regressing.


I wonder if teams have film on his tendencies and they're reading his eyes or something.
The CB was already celebrating  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
BBefore DJ8 threw the ball. Knew K out coached Shemur and made the right defensive call.
Disgraceful  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
.
Awesome  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
Start
This defense is atrocious.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
OMFG.
Yikes  
Giantology : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
.
RE: RE: What a fantastic job  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
In comment 14634872 santacruzom said:
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In comment 14634852 jcn56 said:


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by the rebuilt offensive line so far.



We've dramatically improved the OL as a unit!


There was someone pumping up the Remmers signing as a good move by DG, and that is free agency moves havent been bad
If Jones doesn't recover from this regression  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
And if the Giants go 4-12, I wonder if they'd actually replace Shurmur with a coach who would be allowed to pull a Cardinals.
Wow  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
This team is soft. Bottom feeders yet again
Lol  
yankeeslover : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
Cant make this shit up
Jesus  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
Do we even have LBs?
Gross  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
Under preparation and non execution

Good work D
LOL  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
t you guys shitting on jones....
its his FIFTH game guys....
whos the guy that started the DG thread  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
saying we are a good team...this team is trash especially on defense.
The  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 1:21 pm : link
Get Right Team
I guess nobody told the Cardinals  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
that an NFL rebuild takes five years.
RE: RE: Jones had a nice start to his career  
TommyWiseau : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14634897 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14634875 bigbluescot said:


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but he's been steadily regressing.



I wonder if teams have film on his tendencies and they're reading his eyes or something.


Did not have to read his eyes to make that INT. He threw it at two Cardinals defenders
Even the sack was a poor decision by Jones  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
it's 2nd and 5. Don't make a late decision to turn around in the pocket. Just get rid of it.
RE: This defense is atrocious.  
SomeFan : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14634901 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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OMFG.


Offense isnt that great either
Cards  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Dominating!!
56 was right  
Banks : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
we're gonna get killed
Is the game over yet?  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
terrible start by both the offense and defense.
Need talent but also  
Giants86 : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
New coaches. These guys have no clue....
Really headed in the right direction with this squad.  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Arrow pointing way up.
RE: If Jones doesn't recover from this regression  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14634904 santacruzom said:
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And if the Giants go 4-12, I wonder if they'd actually replace Shurmur with a coach who would be allowed to pull a Cardinals.


I don't think the Giants would be in position to do that. We're possibly going to have a 1-15 team picking third this year.
Holy crap!  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
what am I watching here?
LOLLOLL  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Shurmur cant even do what he is known to do best, teach a QB how to play??!! It's not the players guys, IT'S the COACHING STAFF!!! This team has not coaching staff. it is horrible..
Wow  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Offense is predictable
I feel for the fans @ this game.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Rain, mid 50s, & watching this garbage product.
Wow.  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Right up the middle. They are fooling us with a lot of creative runs.
will this be  
AndyMilligan : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
another week where Jones looks like crap and allstarjim insists he is the best in the nfl throwing into tight windows?
We should clear house at the bye  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
.
The defense needs middle linebackers  
NY-Fan : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Just pathetic the lack of talent and coaching on defense.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
the defense is just REALLY bad. my god
The only answer the giants have.....  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Is to Fire shurmur etc....... today.
Wow  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
How long does Shurmur have? Hes shown enough to me that hell never be more than a Coordinator
One of these teams  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
came to play. Just not ours. How pathetic.
Can we fire everyone at halftime  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Holy F. What a shitshow.
RE: LOL  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14634909 BleedBlue said:
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t you guys shitting on jones....
its his FIFTH game guys....


It's still a terrible throw.
Run the fucking Ball  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Jeez..... Fucking throw happy Shumur
RE: whos the guy that started the DG thread  
Motley Two : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14634910 mphbullet36 said:
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saying we are a good team...this team is trash especially on defense.


Yep. Giants Suck. That's all you can say about them.
Well...  
illmatic : 10/20/2019 1:22 pm : link
Only 15 or 20 minutes into the game. At least I can do something else with my day.
Well. The two wins  
halfback20 : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
Earlier this year were fun. 2-5 looking likely after this shitty start.
I'm so sick of watching trash football.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
Down 14 0 to the F'ing Cardinals? WTF are we doing here?
RE: I guess nobody told the Cardinals  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14634912 jcn56 said:
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that an NFL rebuild takes five years.



Yea the cardinals have taken about 20 years
Brilliant choice to defer  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
until the second half. Shurmur really has a great pulse on his team.
On the upside tickets to today's game  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
were 25 bucks this morning so maybe Mara will take notice at some point when the stadium is empty.
RE: They automatically..  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14634884 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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review all turnovers.

How the fuck do they keep the spot at the 32?


Yeah, that's the problem.
Bettcher bottom dollar that  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
This defense has no idea what theyre doing.
good thing  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
we gave up mid way through the first. but remember shurmurs guys play hard for him
RE: LOL  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14634909 BleedBlue said:
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t you guys shitting on jones....
its his FIFTH game guys....


You'll be saying it after his FIFTIETH game. But we have bigger problems... this coach has no resume. They'll give Shurmur half of next year and will then show him the door.
Like a hit knife  
charlito : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
Through butter.
This staff has to go  
WillVAB : 10/20/2019 1:23 pm : link
Team looks completely unprepared
Did I see Gary Sanchez out there?  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
Or was that someone else whiffing on the tackle?
RE: RE: I guess nobody told the Cardinals  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14634941 cokeduplt said:
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In comment 14634912 jcn56 said:


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that an NFL rebuild takes five years.




Yea the cardinals have taken about 20 years



LMFAO the cardinals arent good.. they have one of the worst defenses in football. people will figure out their gimick offense too. our defense is just a joke
RE: The kid is a bust  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14634888 Gary JC said:
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Too bad. Manning should be warming up.


Hey Gary. Today your first day as a Giants fan?
We had 10 F'ing days off & we're getting our asses  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
handed to us by the F'ing Cardinals?

JFC. I'm so disgusted with this trash.
Defense was expected  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
to suck. But this is a bad Cardianls D. Jones should be feasting on them. Rookie but the turnovers are concerning.
Hard to see why Shurmur  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
is 20 games under .500 in his career. No clue.
Time to sit Barkley?  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
was worried about the ankle and don't see the point in risking it for this game.
RE: RE: If Jones doesn't recover from this regression  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14634921 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14634904 santacruzom said:


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And if the Giants go 4-12, I wonder if they'd actually replace Shurmur with a coach who would be allowed to pull a Cardinals.



I don't think the Giants would be in position to do that. We're possibly going to have a 1-15 team picking third this year.


Bw in dc started a thread yesterday about the upcoming class. Its looking to be a great class. But, I wouldnt give up on Jones after one year
Betcher needs to go. D looks fucking lost  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
.
RE: Wow  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14634932 bubba0825 said:
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How long does Shurmur have? Hes shown enough to me that hell never be more than a Coordinator


it will be interesting if they lose this game there is real strong possibility this team is 2-11 with 9 straight losses. Have to fire him if thats the case.
COACHING STAFF IS THE PROBLEM PEOPLE!!!  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
PERIOD... Embarrassing.. at home too?!? wow. Fuck this Organization with no balls, I would fire Shurmur after the game!
.  
CalZone : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
This Cardinals offensive plays and scheme is amazing.

That last delayed draw? Everyone on defense was stuck in the mud.
Our D absolutely sucks, and I believe a lot of it is coaching  
PatersonPlank : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
.
Yeah well  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
Talked about a team that is so ill prepared
as these guys are forget the defense there not eve
laying a glove on a guy twice from 20 yards out
and the QB is already shell shocked . Barkley
will be keyed on and Jones will respond or implode..
season over  
uther99 : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
.
The offense  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
Doesnt stretch the defense. And this clown wont stick to the run at all
Eli  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/20/2019 1:24 pm : link
Time?
Enough blaming the coaches  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 1:25 pm : link
Who obviously aren't very good. The real problem is the lack of talent on the field. But let's have another thread of how great a job our GM has done.
Bethea has no business starting  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2019 1:25 pm : link
He was late reacting to Edmonds', and also took a poor angle YET AGAIN, first touchdown and the second one he missed the tackle.

I am so tired of players remaining in the lineup strictly because they are veterans. Julian Love and even Chandler can't be worse than him.
RE: RE: RE: I guess nobody told the Cardinals  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14634951 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 14634941 cokeduplt said:


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In comment 14634912 jcn56 said:


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that an NFL rebuild takes five years.




Yea the cardinals have taken about 20 years




LMFAO the cardinals arent good.. they have one of the worst defenses in football. people will figure out their gimick offense too. our defense is just a joke


I'm not really seeing a gimmick here. Their offense looks pretty normal to me and Murray isn't even moving around that much. Our defense is just bad.
Holy Shit  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 1:25 pm : link
I am always amazed at how bad this fucking team is. Fucking TERRIBLE.
RE: Enough blaming the coaches  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14634969 Marty866b said:
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Who obviously aren't very good. The real problem is the lack of talent on the field. But let's have another thread of how great a job our GM has done.


were playing a shitty team at home.
RE: RE: RE: I guess nobody told the Cardinals  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14634951 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 14634941 cokeduplt said:


Quote:


In comment 14634912 jcn56 said:


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that an NFL rebuild takes five years.




Yea the cardinals have taken about 20 years




LMFAO the cardinals arent good.. they have one of the worst defenses in football. people will figure out their gimick offense too. our defense is just a joke


That joke of a team has looked a lot more competitive than the Giants this year.

Then again, save for Miami and Washington who hasn't?
RE: Enough blaming the coaches  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14634969 Marty866b said:
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Who obviously aren't very good. The real problem is the lack of talent on the field. But let's have another thread of how great a job our GM has done.


preach!
Jones is really not played well.  
Darth Paul : 10/20/2019 1:26 pm : link
One decent game. So many said relax, it is only one game. They were ridiculed. Maybe we can wait a season to see if Jones might be an NFL QB.
Pound the damn ball  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 1:26 pm : link
lets go
I  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:26 pm : link
want to be sympathetic to Jones, especially since he was throwing into extremely tight windows the last few weeks since he basically had no offensive weapons. But he has made some truly awful decisions and throws.

The defense is just mind boggling. We are being fooled by simple fakes and misdirections.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I guess nobody told the Cardinals  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14634971 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14634951 BleedBlue said:


Quote:


In comment 14634941 cokeduplt said:


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In comment 14634912 jcn56 said:


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that an NFL rebuild takes five years.




Yea the cardinals have taken about 20 years




LMFAO the cardinals arent good.. they have one of the worst defenses in football. people will figure out their gimick offense too. our defense is just a joke



I'm not really seeing a gimmick here. Their offense looks pretty normal to me and Murray isn't even moving around that much. Our defense is just bad.



its a run and shoot with a ton of motion. its pretty gimmicky and i think people will catch on to kingsbury
RE: Eli  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14634968 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Time?


Not unless dj is hurt..still learning
RE: Enough blaming the coaches  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14634969 Marty866b said:
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Who obviously aren't very good. The real problem is the lack of talent on the field. But let's have another thread of how great a job our GM has done.


According to some DG can do no wrong, his free agency moves are solid, and its alright he has had some bad cap management. Like wut
RE: RE: Wow  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14634959 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 14634932 bubba0825 said:


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How long does Shurmur have? Hes shown enough to me that hell never be more than a Coordinator



it will be interesting if they lose this game there is real strong possibility this team is 2-11 with 9 straight losses. Have to fire him if thats the case.


And one of those wins was due to a missed chip shot field goal and the other was against Dwayne Haskins.
Betcher is getting drilled by a fucking college coach.  
KerrysFlask : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
And everyone else in the league.

Dude is trash.
Fooled Again  
Jeffrey : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
Nothing more to say. Lousy defense.
WTF is  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
Eli going to do. You stick with Jones no matter what. Either you see improvement or you pull a Cardianls move (unlikely but you never know with Fromm, Tua, Herbert, Morrow and Eason and Lawrence a year later).
Whats Barkleys ypc  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
This year? Were so bad
This OL still  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
sucks.
LMAO  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
our playcalling is embarrassing
Playing Calling !  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
OMFG,,,,,,,,
For an offensive guru  
Mike in NY : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
No creativity with this offense
First time ever they caught the first guy  
SomeFan : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
that was funny.
LOL we have no idea how to run a screen  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:27 pm : link
going on 15 years now
Always a good look  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
When the QB is blocking and no linemen are
DJ is an average qb at best  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
DJ is an average qb at best. Wow, we outsmarted all the teams and picked up DJ. What a pick. We are so smart
RE: season over  
Darth Paul : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14634965 uther99 said:
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Hope for losses and a high draft pick. Poor Barkley
Its time to fire James Betcher  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
Grossly unprepared after 10 days to prepare. Disgusting.
SHURMUR  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
Play calling predictable ...
Were gonna get stomped .
This offense.  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
. Man.
This offensive line is amazing guys  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
It's totally fixed.
Don't often see  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
Holding penalties on second down declines, but here we are.
This team is lifeless  
Sean : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
.
Zero creativity  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
on offense. Zero!
Went through Tates hands  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
.
Lmfao  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
.
Tate  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
Drops it
Great  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
three and out, finished by a third and 17.
RE: This offensive line is amazing guys  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14634999 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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It's totally fixed.


At this point I don't know if Solder is actually a step up over Flowers. Seriously.
team  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
looks really sloppy my god...

we badly need a stop. the defense is a joke bad.
Go Terps is completely right about  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
Shurmur. He's a loser head coach.
21-0 coming up!  
fivehead : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
Great effort, guys!
Tate won't be here next year  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
.
Need a turn over bigtime  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
On this drive. This fucking team is sleepwalking.
The Cards  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
are getting a ridiculous jump on the snap again too. So thats still going on.
RE: Its time to fire James Betcher  
Giants86 : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14634996 BlueHurricane said:
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Grossly unprepared after 10 days to prepare. Disgusting.


And it s his old team
Sorry but the coach  
ryanmkeane : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
needs to go. This is awful.
RE: Go Terps is completely right about  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14635009 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Shurmur. He's a loser head coach.


Don't let Gettleman off the hook, he's responsible for this shit show.
Realistically speaking,  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
The Giants are probably 20 years away from being competitive.
RE: Went through Tates hands  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14635003 bubba0825 said:
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But someone said Tate was a positive signing by Dg
Perfect opportunity to move up  
BlueManCrew : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
In the division. Instead we come out flat, uninspired and gutless. Its been this way for years.
I'm so F'ing sick of Golden  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
Tate. I can't wait till he's gone.
.  
Banks : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
we desperately need a turnover.
RE: Go Terps is completely right about  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14635009 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Shurmur. He's a loser head coach.


I agree
Have  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
we even had the ball for two minutes?

We look like we have no idea what to do on either side of the ball.
RE: RE: season over  
TommyWiseau : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14634995 Darth Paul said:
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In comment 14634965 uther99 said:


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Hope for losses and a high draft pick. Poor Barkley


I never hope for a loss but Chase Young is looking more likely each day
How soon until Shurmur  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
starts embarrassingly yelling at the refs about a missed call?
Looks pretty much like  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
the same old shitty team last year and the year before. Not much difference.
I really dont  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
Want Shurmur back next year but I know he will be. Also Jones looks horrible so far this game which is alarming
Not what I needed after last nights Yankee loss  
PetesHereNow : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
We look awful.
Why are the linemen  
Darth Paul : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
standing around watching Barkley try to make a play. Maybe try to throw a block or something.
Its concerning  
lax counsel : 10/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
That Jones makes the same mistake week after week now, namely staring down receivers.
RE: RE: Go Terps is completely right about  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14635017 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14635009 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


Quote:


Shurmur. He's a loser head coach.



Don't let Gettleman off the hook, he's responsible for this shit show.


Yep but some here say hes doing a bang up job
RE: RE: Go Terps is completely right about  
Gmen703 : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14635017 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14635009 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


Quote:


Shurmur. He's a loser head coach.



Don't let Gettleman off the hook, he's responsible for this shit show.


Agreed.
RE: Looks pretty much like  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14635027 rebel yell said:
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the same old shitty team last year and the year before. Not much difference.


Lol
Fire Shurmur now  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
.
LOL  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
Play-calling is so bad the Giants move backwards for negative yards?!?!!? smdh...
I hate it when we're on D  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
just not exciting. it's torture.
RE: Perfect opportunity to move up  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14635020 BlueManCrew said:
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In the division. Instead we come out flat, uninspired and gutless. Its been this way for years.


probably for the best...the sooner DG and Shurmur are fired the better for us because we can finally move forward from these clowns.
This is the Cardinals were playing.  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
Some say the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NFL.
RE: Its concerning  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14635032 lax counsel said:
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That Jones makes the same mistake week after week now, namely staring down receivers.


Agreed.
RE: RE: Went through Tates hands  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14635019 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14635003 bubba0825 said:


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But someone said Tate was a positive signing by Dg


He also alligator armed the ball thrown to him on the first drive. Signing him isnt looking great right now
RE: RE: Perfect opportunity to move up  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14635039 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 14635020 BlueManCrew said:


Quote:


In the division. Instead we come out flat, uninspired and gutless. Its been this way for years.



probably for the best...the sooner DG and Shurmur are fired the better for us because we can finally move forward from these clowns.


They need to get rid of Chris Mara as well this time.
Schumur has this team playing to his strength.....  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
And track record, ZERO seasons in the nfl with a winning record, and counting, how the eff did his record not disqualify him as a head coach candidate? Its like hiring a pilot with no flights that did not crash, makes me sick.
But  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
We got the HARDEST 3 yards
remember when  
AndyMilligan : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
some folks insisted at minimum Daniel Jones was a QB you could win two championships with? I mean i hope he is, but the minimum remains a lot lower than that..
RE: This is the Cardinals were playing.  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14635040 nygfaninorlando said:
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Some say the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NFL.


Right now I'd say we were, with Washington and Miami being worse.
For all the people calling DJ a bust  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
You do know this team was 8-26 in the last 2 years under a different QB right? You know that?
We just didn't show up here  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
Against a mediocre Cardinals team that is starting the game at 10 AM their time
ogletree might be one of the worst  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
DG moves and that is saying something because he has made a ton of shitty moves!
Yankees lost yesterday  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
Giantd are a shitshow and to top it off the ranger are down 1-0 as well.

Hopefully the offseason will land us Geritt Cole, an actual NFL coach and Quinton Byfield.
Gettleman  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
Needs to go
RE: Perfect opportunity to move up  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14635020 BlueManCrew said:
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In the division. Instead we come out flat, uninspired and gutless. Its been this way for years.
this team is bereft of talent. There is zero % chance of being competitive within the division after today
i'm pissed off enough  
dan518 : 10/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
about last night and now my giants? god i can't take this. and on my birthday too. come on giants!!!
.  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
Gettleman should be a college scout. Shurmur should be selling insurance.

Mara, wake the fuck up.
I cant wait to hire Ernie accorse  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
To help find a new gm where Ernie just suggests the last guy he texted
Thank God for NFL redzone  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
At least I'll get to watch some good football today.
CAN WE MAKE A FUCKING STOP ON 3RD OR  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
4TH DOWN? JFC.
This is not  
Sammo85 : 10/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
A good coaching staff. At all
3rd and 5  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
no problem
It would be cool if the defensive line did ANYthing  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
today.
Shurmur  
PaulN : 10/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
Has to go, there is no such thing as he is good for the QB, his team a are unprepaired, he is just a stupid man, and horrible coach. The Giants need to fire him now, get him out of here, Jones is getting worse and now does not look like a QB any team would want, this is all coaching. The game last week was a Patriot team playing in coast because they don't need to get up for the Giants, they,are not even competitive against any team but horrible teams having a horrible day, like the Redskins. But you guys keep agreeing with one another and convince yourselves your right because of the numbers. The Giants will come back today when the game is 35-10 and the Cards soften up their defense and then you all think that is progress, it is not.
Gettlmen was  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
the conservative old school move. Where are the forward thinkers?
Late Entry  
Percy : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
Guess I should be thankful for being late to the game since it seems the Giants, especially the defense, remain a total horror show disaster -- though my first plays online today were the loss of eight yards by Barkley and a long incomplete by Jones on third and who knows how many. I'll read the thread now to see what has happened.
RE: For all the people calling DJ a bust  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14635048 Thunderstruck27 said:
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You do know this team was 8-26 in the last 2 years under a different QB right? You know that?


Nobody's seriously saying he's a bust but he's seriously regressing. He looks terrible right now. And that's on Shurmur.
this game  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
may actually get turned off before half
It's really hard to root for your favorite team  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
when you've given up on the coaching staff.
Cards  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
"We love 3rd downs!!"
Lol one of you guys are really obtuse  
PhiPsi125 : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
Ive seen enough of Jones to think that he can be a good QB. But not if the Defense, OL, WRs and most importantly the COACHING all suck.

This team is horrible.
Mara knows how to pick em  
D_Giants : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
Our second HC whos an offensive genius.
RE: Yankees lost yesterday  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14635051 giants_10_88 said:
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Giantd are a shitshow and to top it off the ranger are down 1-0 as well.

Hopefully the offseason will land us Geritt Cole, an actual NFL coach and Quinton Byfield.



I think theres a high chance the first two dont happen
We  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
again can't get off the field. Completion against Haley. There is basically no pressure on Murray.
We can't cover their 4 receiver sets  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
. Haley is terrible, but what's behind him is worse.
Shurmur is just a disaster  
Justlurking : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
This team does nothing well. This is an embarrassment.
This is going to be 21 0 soon  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
isn't it?
RE: This is the Cardinals were playing.  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14635040 nygfaninorlando said:
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Some say the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NFL.


The Giants ask you to hold their beer when they hear worst team rankings.
RE: RE: For all the people calling DJ a bust  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14635065 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14635048 Thunderstruck27 said:


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You do know this team was 8-26 in the last 2 years under a different QB right? You know that?



Nobody's seriously saying he's a bust but he's seriously regressing. He looks terrible right now. And that's on Shurmur.


TOo early to tell obviously but I think confidence has gone down that he is a franchise QB although I think he is.
Only Shurmur can make  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
The 30th ranked defense look like the 85 Bears
RE: Yankees lost yesterday  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14635051 giants_10_88 said:
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Giantd are a shitshow and to top it off the ranger are down 1-0 as well.

Hopefully the offseason will land us Geritt Cole, an actual NFL coach and Quinton Byfield.


Don't mention the two in the same post. The Yankees fought to the bitter end against a team that won a championship with their current roster and has been to three ALCS in a row.

The Giants are a shit organization from top to bottom.
What a shit show  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
.
CHRIST  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
they're going top run out of flags
oh cool.  
dan518 : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
pass interference as well nice!
The  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
Cardinals are smartly calling a lot of running plays that attack the edges to get away from our big interior linemen.
He contacted the OL.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
.the play should've been blown dead!
I was going to shut this off  
illmatic : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
But now Im morbidly curious about when the giants will get a stop on third or fourth down. And by now many points Arizona will be leading by.
Wow! This is just  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
a sad performance. No effort at all.
This is the kind of game that gets coaches fired  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
completely shambolic
RE: RE: For all the people calling DJ a bust  
Darth Paul : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14635065 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14635048 Thunderstruck27 said:


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You do know this team was 8-26 in the last 2 years under a different QB right? You know that?



Nobody's seriously saying he's a bust but he's seriously regressing. He looks terrible right now. And that's on Shurmur.


He is still the best option. We could have taken a pro-level linebacker. the way the offense looks we can throw anyone out there to play quarterback and it wouldn't make a difference.
Cards 35 giants 0  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
Is a real possibility here.......
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
We have NO answer to this air raid offense!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA We are the new bottom feeders. Actually we aren't new bottom feeders. I'm just new to realizing how exactly AWFUL this team is from the coaching staff on down.

Terps, Greg from LI, you were right all along.
what does this defense do well? Anything?  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
?
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
FUCKING JOKE of a call.

ball was uncatchable
Seriously fuck this team  
Motley Two : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
Absolutely gross
Shurmur challenges the pass interference call  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
but I think Jenkins hit him
What a pathetic game  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
.
.  
Banks : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
i thought the play would've been blown dead after encroachment. here comes a screwjob from the refs
Hahahaha  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
.
Thats horseshit they made contact at line of scrimmage  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
should hvw been blown dead.
I cant wait for all of the..  
Sean : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
You gotta be patient through the rebuild posts, look at the Cardinals - they tore it down after last year and look a million miles better than us.
No way  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:36 pm : link
Thats interference, but Dont think the call will change
That was a wretched PI call  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
If they dont reverse this then what the hell is the point of this rule?
Fuck  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
NY sports in general.
Crap call  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
no chance we win this its a fucking joke.
The dude fell down .
Another idiot challenge  
WillVAB : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
Shurmur is a straight up emotional donkey. Get rid of this clown and his staff.
If they..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
don't overturn this - it is complete BS.
Giants challege PI  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
do these ever work? seems the league wants to enforce PI.
RE: what does this defense do well? Anything?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14635091 Britt in VA said:
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?


Make other offenses look good.
Just have to clean-up a few thing  
Knineteen : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
Right guys??!!?

We have faith in our group.

Give me a break. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, folks.
Think it stands  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
.
If Ogletree  
MookGiants : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
wanted to play for the Giants for free I still wouldnt want him on the team. Horrendous player
Realistically though  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 1:37 pm : link
Will an overturn do anything beyond delaying the inevitable?
RE: I cant wait for all of the..  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14635099 Sean said:
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You gotta be patient through the rebuild posts, look at the Cardinals - they tore it down after last year and look a million miles better than us.


Eric said it best: we're in year 8 of the 20 year plan.
RE: That was a wretched PI call  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14635101 jpkmets said:
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If they dont reverse this then what the hell is the point of this rule?


They're not overturning ANY of these PI challenges. They only want them called on game-deciding plays.
looks to me like the receiver tried to push off  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
JJ gave no resistance, the receiver fell down.

on top of it the ball was uncatchable.

the call will not get overturned in spite of this.
It should be overturned, but it won't  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
be & it'll be Arizona 21 0 in about 3 minutes.
RE: Another idiot challenge  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14635104 WillVAB said:
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Shurmur is a straight up emotional donkey. Get rid of this clown and his staff.



wtf thats a great challenge are you kidding here? ball was uncatchable and jenkins didnt touch him, he trppped
There's no way Bettcher should survive this game.  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
People say Fewell was terrible but Fewell's defenses never looked this bad.

I'm not even sure the Bill Sheridan/CC Brown defense was this bad.
RE: That was a wretched PI call  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14635101 jpkmets said:
Quote:
If they dont reverse this then what the hell is the point of this rule?
They dont overturn PI. Coaches need to learn that.
I'd rather watch Edwin Encarnacion take ALCS ABs  
KerrysFlask : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
On an endless loop than this sad excuse of a team the giants are putting on the field.
Bad  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
call. The WR tripped, but it's so difficult to get those PI calls overturned. I don't think it's happened once this year.
Thought you couldn't clap to draw the other team offsides  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
Refs=garbage
I know we are losing..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
but the refs fucked up twice on the same play.

once you touch the Ol, the play is dead. And Jenkins didn't even touch the Wr
RE: Giants challege PI  
WillVAB : 10/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14635106 Steve in ATL said:
Quote:
do these ever work? seems the league wants to enforce PI.


No they dont. Which is why its a dumb challenge.
RE: RE: RE: For all the people calling DJ a bust  
D_Giants : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14635088 Darth Paul said:
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In comment 14635065 FStubbs said:


Quote:


In comment 14635048 Thunderstruck27 said:


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You do know this team was 8-26 in the last 2 years under a different QB right? You know that?



Nobody's seriously saying he's a bust but he's seriously regressing. He looks terrible right now. And that's on Shurmur.



He is still the best option. We could have taken a pro-level linebacker. the way the offense looks we can throw anyone out there to play quarterback and it wouldn't make a difference.


But Mara told us that Shurmur is brilliant, the best we can do!
RE: RE: I cant wait for all of the..  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14635113 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14635099 Sean said:


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You gotta be patient through the rebuild posts, look at the Cardinals - they tore it down after last year and look a million miles better than us.



Eric said it best: we're in year 8 of the 20 year plan.


I thought the Giants needed to bring in someone with no ties to the organization with a fresh perspective, but nope...
It's the first half  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
in the modern NFL, a 14 point lead in the first half is nothing. This is the Cards; they are perfectly capable of blowing this.
RE: It should be overturned, but it won't  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14635116 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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be & it'll be Arizona 21 0 in about 3 minutes.

I assume you mean 3 minutes including commercials.
Too much preparation time for the Giants  
yalebowl : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
What did they do after the Thursday night game? And you are playing a west coast team. The inside linebackers have been crap after Connolly went down.

The defense still plays way too far off the receivers. And the Cardinal running game is killing them right now.

I hate the play calling by Shumer. If you want to be a play caller then become a OC not a head coach. And the DC is total garbage. He doesnt play Ballantine or Love.

Its just awful. Why defer when you dont make any half-time adjustments anyway.
Too much criticism on the coach  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
He sucks but the guy who hired him and put this shit on the field is the person who should go first.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
such bullshit
RE: I know we are losing..  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14635123 FatMan in Charlotte said:
Quote:
but the refs fucked up twice on the same play.

once you touch the Ol, the play is dead. And Jenkins didn't even touch the Wr


No one cares. Mara and Tisch could be reffing the game and it wouldn't matter.
I hate agreeing with Terps  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
but their is zero excuse to be this unprepared EVERYWHERE with 12 days to prepare. And I dont want to hear about how unorthodox the Cards are on offense. No excuses. If Gettleman cant see how uncompetitive and unprepared they are than hes just as guilty and blind.
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
the NFL is a joke
The only question is..  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
Does Shurmur outlast McAdoo in tenure?
And here..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
comes a make-up call.

Fuck the refs
Blandino  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
Fuck that clown
Hopefully after this season Pat Shurmur  
GiantFanInTX : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
finally realizes that he should never be a head coach in this league ever again. This is what happens when you go with the "safe" hire. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but I've seen enough now. This team is just absolutely horrible.
Keep challenging those PIs, Pat.  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
Youre on a real hot streak.
Sigh..  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
same old shit.
Stands!  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
.
People took Gettleman at his word  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
Old school football, pound the ball, win the LOS.

This team has practically no talent on either side of the line. That's after spending a fortune on the OL.
Seems No One In Blue  
Percy : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
Belongs in professional football. They are confirming my idea that the only hope for this team is to force Mara to sell it to someone new who will fire each and every person now involved with it.
Switching to Hoarders  
Adirondack GMen : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
This pathetic. I thought most high school games are played on Friday or Saturday!
Any takers on Eli reappears today?
Making Edmonds look  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
like Jim Brown!
ruling on the field stands  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
this is just a complete joke. the NFL has no credibility.
NFL  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
Is as big of a joke as the giants
Chase Young  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
plase
.  
Banks : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
just get rid of this rule. Makes no sense if you don't enforce it. There shouldn't be some subjective bullshit like how egregious it was. Call it by the book you shits
Make  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
up call?
Shurmur  
PaulN : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
My grandmother could have developed Aaron Rodgers, this bullshit about him being this great QB developer is a joke.
Game needs more flags  
Jersey Heel : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
So exciting!
I feel bad for the fans  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
Sitting in the rain watching this
RE: Chase Young  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14635150 giants_10_88 said:
Quote:
plase


with a new Owner, GM, and Coach please
This 1st quarter might as well be a portrait  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
of post Sandy New York Giants football. This is 7 years now.
RE: Thats horseshit they made contact at line of scrimmage  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14635098 Zeke's Alibi said:
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should hvw been blown dead.


Yep. Especially since they've made it a point to do so this year and not give up those types of free plays.
RE: Keep challenging those PIs, Pat.  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14635141 bceagle05 said:
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Youre on a real hot streak.



shurmur sucks bt that was a good challenge. it as a joke.

ball want even catchable and WR fell
RE: Keep challenging those PIs, Pat.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14635141 bceagle05 said:
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Youre on a real hot streak.


I'll take anything that highlights a sham rule.

Fair is fair and right now, the NFL needs to just take it off the books.
RE: RE: I cant wait for all of the..  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14635113 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14635099 Sean said:


Quote:


You gotta be patient through the rebuild posts, look at the Cardinals - they tore it down after last year and look a million miles better than us.



Eric said it best: we're in year 8 of the 20 year plan.


So were close to finishing forty percent of the plan. Glass half full perspective: only sixty percent to go
And fucking Rangers  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:42 pm : link
down 3-0. We almost had Elias Petterson.
It was a bad call  
odunde : 10/20/2019 1:42 pm : link
But we new how theyd call that. Shurmur needs to give the red flag to someone else. The dude is hapless.
RE: The only question is..  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14635137 Gary JC said:
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Does Shurmur outlast McAdoo in tenure?




I hope not I think hes actually worse
Their killing us with  
SomeFan : 10/20/2019 1:42 pm : link
outside speed
Jones hasnt looked good for a couple of games. The team looks less  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/20/2019 1:42 pm : link
and less prepared by the week. I dont think even the old fool can justify bringing Shurmur back if we finish 4-12 and Jones doesnt remove any doubt hes the QB of the future.

Formula for 2020  
Earl the goat : 10/20/2019 1:42 pm : link
Tank and get a high draft pick and trade down for more draft capital
Fire Shurmur. Bettcher. Shula
Draft two offensive lineman with your two top draft picks
Spend the 80 million dollars in cap space on defense

In the interim prior to trade deadline
Try and trade Jenkins and Ogletree Tate and possibly Solder for whatever you can get
Man, I just love what DG's been doing!  
Greg from LI : 10/20/2019 1:42 pm : link
Team is SO easy to cheer for!
I can't believe I thought this team would win today.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
They didn't even show up. What a waste of a Sunday afternoon. And I'm out of beer. I was planning on going to the store @ halftime.
RE: Chase Young  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14635150 giants_10_88 said:
Quote:
plase


We won 2 games already. We won't be in position to draft Chase Young.
This challenge of PI  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
Will be gone anyway after this season. Just nfl reaction to playoff game last yr
RE: People took Gettleman at his word  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14635144 jcn56 said:
Quote:
Old school football, pound the ball, win the LOS.

This team has practically no talent on either side of the line. That's after spending a fortune on the OL.


Lol he kept saying those words and made moves, yet were not close to accomplishing it
RE: The only question is..  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14635137 Gary JC said:
Quote:
Does Shurmur outlast McAdoo in tenure?


He had better not, but this organization is good at making excuses for its negatives while wildly exagerating its positives.
RE: I know we are losing..  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14635123 FatMan in Charlotte said:
Quote:
but the refs fucked up twice on the same play.

once you touch the Ol, the play is dead. And Jenkins didn't even touch the Wr
yep
we haven't had a real head coach since Coughlin left.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
His record wasn't great at the end but at least those teams were competitive.
This is all the more depressing  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
when you realize that its 2019, the league aint sending us a new George Young, and after Shurmur goes (and lets be honest, that's after next season, they arent gonna cut bait get cuz hey, Giants) Mara and Co will bungle the coaching search. Again.
Hah, so WR pushes off DB  
section125 : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
trips and DPI is called. But upon review it is a good call. As FMiC said last week, the rule is a joke.
RE: Man, I just love what DG's been doing!  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14635168 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Team is SO easy to cheer for!
They do have a great locker room.
RE: Their killing us with  
flycatcher : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14635165 SomeFan said:
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outside speed

This. Sweep right, sweep left. Repeat til TD.
Got a question  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
Who is getting the plane with a banner to fly over the stadium?
Lions just announced  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
Next week they will be scrimmaging the visiting giants, and are thankful for the additional bye week the schumur led giants are gifting them.
RE: Man, I just love what DG's been doing!  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14635168 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Team is SO easy to cheer for!


Very cultured. Look at how polite they are to their guests.
RE: we haven't had a real head coach since Coughlin left.  
section125 : 10/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14635177 Britt in VA said:
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His record wasn't great at the end but at least those teams were competitive.


Maybe for 3 years before Coughlin left...
Offensive HCs  
D_Giants : 10/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
Maras preference. 3 yards after one quarter.
There have been a million observations saying challenging PI is foolis  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
Unfortunately our coach is an incompetent fool, hired by a fool of GM and paid by owners who are fools.

Top to bottom incompetence.
RE: RE: Chase Young  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14635156 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 14635150 giants_10_88 said:


Quote:


plase



with a new Owner, GM, and Coach please

Ownership is the huge problem, chose two wco weenie coaches throwing ints with spacing routes vs Tampa 2.
I really  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
wanted to believe that this team would get sorted out, and actually start making some noise and show improvement.

Sadly, it appears I'm dead wrong.

Hopefully, we can hold them to 30 at the half.
RE: RE: Chase Young  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
In comment 14635172 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14635150 giants_10_88 said:


Quote:


plase



We won 2 games already. We won't be in position to draft Chase Young.


This team could easily lose to Miami.
Enough with hiring these damn O.C. QB guru guys as  
nyjuggernaut2 : 10/20/2019 1:45 pm : link
Head coaches. Give me a guy who knows how to prepare and lead a team. Give me a Coughlin/Parcells type guy. And bring in Antonio Pierce as D.C.
RE: RE: Man, I just love what DG's been doing!  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14635180 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 14635168 Greg from LI said:


Quote:


Team is SO easy to cheer for!

They do have a great locker room.




Nice church guys lolol
With as bad as this game has been  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 1:45 pm : link
All we need is a stop and a TD and we are temporarily right back in it.
RE: we haven't had a real head coach since Coughlin left.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14635177 Britt in VA said:
Quote:
His record wasn't great at the end but at least those teams were competitive.

They actually weren't competitive in Coughlin's later years. We've been watching shit like this basically since Hurricane Sandy, with the exception of 11 games to close 2016.
RE: RE: Man, I just love what DG's been doing!  
D_Giants : 10/20/2019 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14635184 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14635168 Greg from LI said:


Quote:


Team is SO easy to cheer for!



Very cultured. Look at how polite they are to their guests.


They got rid of their troublemaker-playmaker.
I really REALLY REALLY  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 1:45 pm : link
Miss Tom Coughlin.
I'm looking for anything  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
to be optimistic about. Anything. I got nothing.
RE: Offensive HCs  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14635186 D_Giants said:
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Maras preference. 3 yards after one quarter.


Nothing wrong with offensive HC's provided he is actually good at calling plays and has a competent DC.
RE: Hah, so WR pushes off DB  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14635179 section125 said:
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trips and DPI is called. But upon review it is a good call. As FMiC said last week, the rule is a joke.


The way officials are using this rule, I doubt they would have overturned last years Saints non-call.
RE: There have been a million observations saying challenging PI is foolis  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14635187 Go Terps said:
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Unfortunately our coach is an incompetent fool, hired by a fool of GM and paid by owners who are fools.

Top to bottom incompetence.


You're right.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
need a TD drive here. the PI shit is garbage
RE: RE: Hah, so WR pushes off DB  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14635199 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 14635179 section125 said:


Quote:


trips and DPI is called. But upon review it is a good call. As FMiC said last week, the rule is a joke.



The way officials are using this rule, I doubt they would have overturned last years Saints non-call.


that might be the point they're trying to make
How dumb is Ogletree?  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
That blow to the head on Murrays run should probably have been flagged. We got away with one there.
Why is Emmanuelle Lewis  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 1:47 pm : link
Making smarter football decisions than DJ8???

Frigging Shemur.
RE: I'm looking for anything  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14635197 rebel yell said:
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to be optimistic about. Anything. I got nothing.


At least you're actually not @ the game?
RE: RE: we haven't had a real head coach since Coughlin left.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14635194 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 14635177 Britt in VA said:


Quote:


His record wasn't great at the end but at least those teams were competitive.


They actually weren't competitive in Coughlin's later years. We've been watching shit like this basically since Hurricane Sandy, with the exception of 11 games to close 2016.


The 2015 Giants were 6-10, and lost 7 of the 10 games when they were tied or had the lead in the final two minutes.
RE: With as bad as this game has been  
D_Giants : 10/20/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14635193 santacruzom said:
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All we need is a stop and a TD and we are temporarily right back in it.


We only have 3 yards! No problem moving the ball. You will see some offensive play-calling like youve never seen!
RE: RE: RE: Man, I just love what DG's been doing!  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14635195 D_Giants said:
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In comment 14635184 jcn56 said:


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In comment 14635168 Greg from LI said:


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Team is SO easy to cheer for!



Very cultured. Look at how polite they are to their guests.



They got rid of their troublemaker-playmaker.


DG has made bad moves, but getting rid of OBJ was not one of them, and I loved him
Awesome game!!  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:47 pm : link
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RE: RE: we haven't had a real head coach since Coughlin left.  
SomeFan : 10/20/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14635194 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 14635177 Britt in VA said:


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His record wasn't great at the end but at least those teams were competitive.


They actually weren't competitive in Coughlin's later years. We've been watching shit like this basically since Hurricane Sandy, with the exception of 11 games to close 2016.


Actually, we were competitive in many games under TC with less talent than now. I think he was the difference.
RE: I'm looking for anything  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14635197 rebel yell said:
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to be optimistic about. Anything. I got nothing.


At least it's an early game so the indigestion will be over by dinner time.
the only non-competitive game today so far  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 1:48 pm : link
is this one. Painful truth - Giants and Cards both bad seasons last year. Looks like Cards are getting better and Giants aren't.
RE: RE: RE: Hah, so WR pushes off DB  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:48 pm : link
In comment 14635202 markky said:
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In comment 14635199 sb from NYT Forum said:


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In comment 14635179 section125 said:


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trips and DPI is called. But upon review it is a good call. As FMiC said last week, the rule is a joke.



The way officials are using this rule, I doubt they would have overturned last years Saints non-call.



that might be the point they're trying to make


True, but peppers was called for interference after a review against tampa
Does anyone have faith in Mara  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:48 pm : link
actually knowing what the hell he's doing? I sure as hell don't.
They have already  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:49 pm : link
Neutralized Barkley
Like I saidJones will move this team
or implode
Shurmur is a clown  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:49 pm : link
For using that challenge. Stupid ass
I know its not true  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/20/2019 1:49 pm : link
But it almost feels like the giants thought they were going to win this game and are shocked thr Cards arent laying down.


Edmonds is also much faster than all the lbs.
This is just  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/20/2019 1:49 pm : link
Sad
One of the criticisms a poster  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
Made here that I thought was insightful was that he never sensed a plan of attack in the offensive game. I dont see one here yet. Its still early, so...
I  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
am startled at how bad we are on both sides of the ball. We're being bamboozled by simple screens, ball fakes, and edge runs. The Cardinals have thrown one deep pass.

On offense, the Cardinals are smartly attacking Barkley, and waiting for Jones to do something to make them back off. Our OL is again a disappointment.
Is this Greg Olson?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
I like him. He's pretty good.
RE: There have been a million observations saying challenging PI is foolis  
section125 : 10/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
In comment 14635187 Go Terps said:
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Unfortunately our coach is an incompetent fool, hired by a fool of GM and paid by owners who are fools.

Top to bottom incompetence.


So, you did not think that was an egregious call? In my mind, the WR initiated contact and should have been called, besides the fact he fell down.

But WTF, just another excuse for your daily rant. Please go root for another team if you don't like the options here.
That PI call on Janoris...  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
...was really bad. The NFL really needs to straighten that rule out. The refs are just winging it... no quality control whatsoever.
I mean, we are sitting at home complaining. I feel bad for the fans  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
sitting in the rain being fed dogshit football. The entire stadium should get up and leave. Maras might not even react to that!!
That 3rd down play was a micro- cosim  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
if Bettchers stupidity. They rein a controlled rush to keep Murray in the pocket and he STILL gets them into field goal range
RE: RE: I'm looking for anything  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14635205 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 14635197 rebel yell said:


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to be optimistic about. Anything. I got nothing.



At least you're actually not @ the game?

Perspective. Thanks.
I will tell you exactly what's going on with these non-reversals....  
BigBlueFan04 : 10/20/2019 1:51 pm : link
The only reason these pass interference challenges have been implemented, it's because the NFL was taken so much heat for the saints Rams championship game last year. I guarantee you they told the refs, do not overturn your calls! They didn't want to add pass interference challenges, but they knew they fucked up last year with the saints Rams game. All they did adding the pass interference, was to take heat off NFL for that blown call last year!
RE: Does anyone have faith in Mara  
bluesince56 : 10/20/2019 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14635214 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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actually knowing what the hell he's doing? I sure as hell don't.


Ive been saying it for years. Mara is the problem. Runs his team like its still the fifties
Nine  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:51 pm : link
plays and three yards before that short completion to Engram.
RE: Is this Greg Olson?  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14635223 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I like him. He's pretty good.


Yeah, he's a good listen.
RE: Does anyone have faith in Mara  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14635214 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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actually knowing what the hell he's doing? I sure as hell don't.


He doesn't. And his brother is still involved in personnel. The entire nepotistic stale organization needs to be cleaned out from top to bottom.
Tate  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/20/2019 1:52 pm : link
Isnt really impressing in terms of getting open
Gallman already  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:52 pm : link
? Lord
Can I just say that Fox production is shit?  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/20/2019 1:52 pm : link
Their replays are worthless (all closeups) and then they miss the next snap.
RE: Tate  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/20/2019 1:52 pm : link
In comment 14635234 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Isnt really impressing in terms of getting open
perfect timing
See going with hard cadence  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:52 pm : link
.
The call wasn't going to be overturned  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 1:52 pm : link
but honestly, on the list of shit that should aggravate you about this game that call is at the bottom.
DJ!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
BEAUTIFUL THROW.
What a dime  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
Wow
llll  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
that throw was special
What a bust  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
Dimes
That a baby, DJ  
Ryan in Albany : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
!
Now that was  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
Gorgeous
what a throw by Jones  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
It's the only place he can put it for the TD
Tate  
Defense56 : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
Finally did something
Fucking Jones man  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
Kid can really drop it in there...geez thst was purdy
On a positive note  
eclipz928 : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
It looks like they've worked with Halapio to get rid of that head bob before the snap.
Nice throw.  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
This kid takes too many risky chances.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
its his FIFTH start he is gonna make mistakes, but he threw a fucking dime there
That was thread pass  
micky : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
.
Now that  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
Was a Dime
glad they drove down the field  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
but a good safety picks that off. Happy some positive vibez for DJ though
Not too many qbs  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
Can make that throw
Greg Olsen  
Mike in NY : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
Sometimes gets a little too technical, but he is a great listen
RE: RE: There have been a million observations saying challenging PI is foolis  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14635224 section125 said:
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In comment 14635187 Go Terps said:


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Unfortunately our coach is an incompetent fool, hired by a fool of GM and paid by owners who are fools.

Top to bottom incompetence.



So, you did not think that was an egregious call? In my mind, the WR initiated contact and should have been called, besides the fact he fell down.

But WTF, just another excuse for your daily rant. Please go root for another team if you don't like the options here.


It doesn't matter how egregious it is. They aren't getting overturned. Everyone knows that challenging is a waste of a timeout.

Fuck off already. You idiots with the blue glasses are a big part of the problem.
NOW  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
we have to try to stop them ugh
Pat Leonard sucks hard.  
flycatcher : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
His tweets are pure garbage, Hes a moronic troll.
RE: what a throw by Jones  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14635246 dpinzow said:
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It's the only place he can put it for the TD


As long is he makes throws like this each game, the turnovers wont bother me that much.
Nice throw & catch on the TD  
Motley Two : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
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Credit to Jones.  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
Great throw.
Im up in 335  
Giants86 : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
That was right below me. That was perfect that pass
Triple coverage...?  
Gmen703 : 10/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
Glad the kid is accurate.
Back in it  
crick n NC : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
.
Ballsy toss...  
trueblueinpw : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
Thought that was a pick. Ill take it.
I agree with Shurmur that getting a review of Jackrabbits PI was worth  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
It. It was a big play and even a low probability of reversing what I thought was an iffy call was worth the lost time out.
Great throw.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
Barkley with a nice run. Signs of life.
RE: How dumb is Ogletree?  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
In comment 14635203 cosmicj said:
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That blow to the head on Murrays run should probably have been flagged. We got away with one there.


His teammate collided into him, on the replay it was clear he didn't intentionally do anything.
Damn  
Nick in LA : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
That was a beautiful throw
Anyone else wondering if Barkley got dinged on the 20 yarder?  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
Thought he looked like he was stsrting to reach for the ankle just after the tackle and he looked concerned when he got up.

Or im just worrying. Anyone else?
Great  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
throw, but very risky. No margin for error considering that it was thrown into a very tight window.
Ok Nice throw  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
and catch thank God Jones
put that on the money .
Finally used Ellison .
Gallman can stay on the bench .
Defense better find an answer
Shurmur is probably very pleased  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
that they won't be shut out today.

"The goal is to keep improving..."
RE: Greg Olsen  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14635256 Mike in NY said:
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Sometimes gets a little too technical, but he is a great listen


Agreed.
Nice throw  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
But what the hell was the safety baker looking at? He could have easily made a play on the ball there. Let's pray for a turnover to really get back into this one.
RE: glad they drove down the field  
odunde : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14635254 mphbullet36 said:
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but a good safety picks that off. Happy some positive vibez for DJ though


This is so fucking stupid. A) Baker is a good safety and B) you can say that about half of the td passes in the league.
Worrisome  
Gruber : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
Chase Edmonds already has 84 yds and we're not a half time yet.
RE: RE: RE: There have been a million observations saying challenging PI is foolis  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14635257 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14635224 section125 said:


Quote:


In comment 14635187 Go Terps said:


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Unfortunately our coach is an incompetent fool, hired by a fool of GM and paid by owners who are fools.

Top to bottom incompetence.



So, you did not think that was an egregious call? In my mind, the WR initiated contact and should have been called, besides the fact he fell down.

But WTF, just another excuse for your daily rant. Please go root for another team if you don't like the options here.



It doesn't matter how egregious it is. They aren't getting overturned. Everyone knows that challenging is a waste of a timeout.

Fuck off already. You idiots with the blue glasses are a big part of the problem.


its a 30 yard penalty. you have to challenge. it wasnt even close to PI. uncatchable plus the wr fell. its a oke and the league needs to get rid of it. you cant just say ahhh no challenge they wont overturn. they SHOULD be oerturning those. shits a joke and the leage us a joke for that
RE: Anyone else wondering if Barkley got dinged on the 20 yarder?  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14635272 j_rud said:
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Thought he looked like he was stsrting to reach for the ankle just after the tackle and he looked concerned when he got up.

Or im just worrying. Anyone else?


I noticed it right after he got up, but then he looked like he was moving fine
Defense needs to show some pride now  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
Damn Man the heck up
Anyone  
KDubbs : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
Know how the view is from 335?
You guys do realize..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
the league already reversed a non-PI on Peppers earlier this year on a far less egregious call.

The standard is ridiculous, so they should just get rid of the rule now.

How does a coach not try to reverse an absolute shit call? You have to
RE: Gallman already  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14635235 Bluesbreaker said:
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? Lord

SB had a long run? Time to rest him for the game. -Shurmur
Need a turnover,  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
Cmon D!
RE: That PI call on Janoris...  
BigBlueFan04 : 10/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14635225 Gary JC said:
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...was really bad. The NFL really needs to straighten that rule out. The refs are just winging it... no quality control whatsoever.




I honestly think, the only added this rule to take heat off of their selves because of the Rams saints game. I honestly believe that.
That  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
was bad defense by Arizona. Somebody should have at least been able to knock the ball away.
RE: RE: How dumb is Ogletree?  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14635270 darren in pdx said:
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In comment 14635203 cosmicj said:


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That blow to the head on Murrays run should probably have been flagged. We got away with one there.



His teammate collided into him, on the replay it was clear he didn't intentionally do anything.
. It might very well have been called anyway. Its imperative in todays climate to avoid any hits to the QB that look late, especially to the head. Not a savvy vet play by #47%.
Slayton was also  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
Wide fucking Open
RE: RE: Does anyone have faith in Mara  
morrison40 : 10/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14635233 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14635214 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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actually knowing what the hell he's doing? I sure as hell don't.



He doesn't. And his brother is still involved in personnel. The entire nepotistic stale organization needs to be cleaned out from top to bottom.


The Maras have been the bane of this organization since the day they traded Sam Huff. Passed on Landry,Lombardi, Parcells-phase 2, Belichick . Pitiful
RE: RE: glad they drove down the field  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14635278 odunde said:
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In comment 14635254 mphbullet36 said:


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but a good safety picks that off. Happy some positive vibez for DJ though



This is so fucking stupid. A) Baker is a good safety and B) you can say that about half of the td passes in the league.


Greg Olsen said the same thing...he has no idea what the safety was doing...didn't make any play on the ball. Hey I'll take it but ellison could have got f*cked up
RE: Anyone  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14635283 KDubbs said:
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Know how the view is from 335?


Mostly depressing
RE: I agree with Shurmur that getting a review of Jackrabbits PI was worth  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/20/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14635268 cosmicj said:
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It. It was a big play and even a low probability of reversing what I thought was an iffy call was worth the lost time out.


If the league was overturning any of those PI calls then yes it's no brainer throwing the flag. Unfortunately it's not being reversed at all so it's a waste of a challenge and a time out just to make a point
RE: Anyone  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14635283 KDubbs said:
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Know how the view is from 335?


i have some asshat info. confirmed that DJ's throw was on point.
Get a stop and...  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 1:59 pm : link
Get points and they're back in the game.
Good field position  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 1:59 pm : link
right here
Poor awareness  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 1:59 pm : link
By Murray there. Its not just Jones, happens to all young qbs.
that Murray can scamper  
markky : 10/20/2019 1:59 pm : link
glad we got him on that one
Ximines and Golden ...  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 1:59 pm : link
They can still use an upgrade but they may have something here...
WOW  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 1:59 pm : link
!

TD GIANTS!
There we go!  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 1:59 pm : link
.
Block punt for the TD  
KevinBBWC : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
WOW
Yesssss  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
Needed it!!!!!
Nice  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
coverage sack, but Murray held on to it much too long. He trusted his athleticism too much.
Nice!  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
Defense

Why was that a safety not a td?
WTF  
Defense56 : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
Just happened?
well they worke up  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
lol
RE: RE: RE: There have been a million observations saying challenging PI is foolis  
Big Al : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
In comment 14635257 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14635224 section125 said:


Quote:


In comment 14635187 Go Terps said:


Quote:


Unfortunately our coach is an incompetent fool, hired by a fool of GM and paid by owners who are fools.

Top to bottom incompetence.



So, you did not think that was an egregious call? In my mind, the WR initiated contact and should have been called, besides the fact he fell down.

But WTF, just another excuse for your daily rant. Please go root for another team if you don't like the options here.



It doesn't matter how egregious it is. They aren't getting overturned. Everyone knows that challenging is a waste of a timeout.

Fuck off already. You idiots with the blue glasses are a big part of the problem.
I am beginning to doubt if even the interference in the playoffs that created the rule would be overturned if it happened today.
nice!!!!!!!!!!  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
!
HUGE  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
lets gooooo
Haha!! St's!!!!  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
.
Holy Fuck!  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
Special Teams........Wow!
Haha, maybe 5-11 instead of 4-12.  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
Olsen is good.
Michael  
TommyWiseau : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
Thomas is a playmaker. Guy always makes key plays
Fuck yeah teams!  
trueblueinpw : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
Make a play! Fucking hell yeah!
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
i literally just said to my father. why can the giants ever block a fucking punt lol
Feel Better Gentleman ?  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
One of these Times Murray is going to get
his head knocked off .
Told you guys  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
to relax. The Cardinals are a terrible team.
anyone think Greg Olsen  
CMicks3110 : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
is a pretty good color man?
RE: Ximines and Golden ...  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14635300 j_rud said:
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They can still use an upgrade but they may have something here...


We need to add to them. They would be great supplements to a great pass rusher. Then with Lawrence anchoring the line, we would have something
Ok, ok  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
Nice defibrillation here!
Hell, yes...  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
back in it! Finally some energy and passion.
I never gave up on this game  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
...

:-)
RE: Told you guys  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14635319 HomerJones45 said:
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to relax. The Cardinals are a terrible team.


i said it before. the cards defense sucks. if our defense steps up we can win
Momentum  
charlito : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
Swing😁
Get another turn over  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
......
Lost in arguably more important details  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
like an adequate pass defense is the fact that our STs have undergone a significant transformation over the last 18 months. A complete 180.
RE: Told you guys  
Greg from LI : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14635319 HomerJones45 said:
Quote:
to relax. The Cardinals are a terrible team.


True, but so are the Giants
Great  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
ST play for a TD. Blocked punt!
Thomas almost done stupid there  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
.
Well,  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
I'm down from the ledge. We have a game.
RE: RE: I agree with Shurmur that getting a review of Jackrabbits PI was worth  
PhiPsi125 : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14635294 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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In comment 14635268 cosmicj said:


Quote:


It. It was a big play and even a low probability of reversing what I thought was an iffy call was worth the lost time out.



If the league was overturning any of those PI calls then yes it's no brainer throwing the flag. Unfortunately it's not being reversed at all so it's a waste of a challenge and a time out just to make a point


My issue with this is that referees KNOW these calls wont be overturned so they are calling so much BS pass interference penalties with zero repercussions. What the league is doing is so transparent and foolish. Its such a bad look.
Let's go!!  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
We're at home with all the momentum now.
BLOCKED PUNT TD  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
that's always nice
This offense  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
Even when they score, it takes almost a perfect pass by the QB. Guys are always double or triple coverage. They dont fool anyone on offense. Never a guy wide open
WTF is going on with the broadcast. 17-9  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
Now 17-16

Its fucking 17-14.
Who's working the graphics on this game?  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
Just had the score 17-16, along with numerous wrong downs and distances so far.
I knew we'd come on strong here  
markky : 10/20/2019 2:03 pm : link
Shurmur is just too good of a HC. And Betcher is a mastermind. he waits, spots your weaknesses and then pounce!!! love that guy.
Wow.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 10/20/2019 2:03 pm : link
From potential blowout to 17-14. Very nice boys. Let's keep fighting.
RE: anyone think Greg Olsen  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14635320 CMicks3110 said:
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is a pretty good color man?


Is that who it is? I was wondering bc i didnt recognize the voice and thought hes been a really good listen.
Rules question  
jogo1 : 10/20/2019 2:03 pm : link
If Thomas was first to touch it, what would the outcome of that play have been?
RE: anyone think Greg Olsen  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14635320 CMicks3110 said:
Quote:
is a pretty good color man?


Yes. He definitely has a future in that role. Good observations, and doesn't dominate the discussion. And no histrionics.
RE: Great  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14635273 AcidTest said:
Quote:
throw, but very risky. No margin for error considering that it was thrown into a very tight window.


It was a perfect throw. Franchise QBs make that throw. Saw Sam Darnold make a similar throw last week.
RE: Rules question  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14635342 jogo1 said:
Quote:
If Thomas was first to touch it, what would the outcome of that play have been?


safety
Now that some positive  
crick n NC : 10/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
Things have happened in the game I'm sure a few posters will disappear until something to complain about comes up
RE: RE: Told you guys  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14635325 BleedBlue said:
Quote:
In comment 14635319 HomerJones45 said:


Quote:


to relax. The Cardinals are a terrible team.



i said it before. the cards defense sucks. if our defense steps up we can win


But they have some top players with Jones and Peterson. We cant say the same for our defense
RE: Rules question  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14635342 jogo1 said:
Quote:
If Thomas was first to touch it, what would the outcome of that play have been?

Safety, I believe
Now that there's a better angle, the safety has no chance on that TD  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
because it's right on Ellison's hands.
Nice coverage  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
Baker
RE: This offense  
GiantFanInTX : 10/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14635336 Rflairr said:
Quote:
Even when they score, it takes almost a perfect pass by the QB. Guys are always double or triple coverage. They dont fool anyone on offense. Never a guy wide open


This. The throws have to be absolutely perfect every time. It's an unrealistic expectation. I don't know if it's the route combos or what, but we never have anyone with any separation.
,...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
nice coverage by baker, he has played much better recently
RE: ,...  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14635353 BleedBlue said:
Quote:
nice coverage by baker, he has played much better recently


agreed
Soft zone  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
On 3rd again. Fuck bettcher
good play by Baker.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
.
3rd down  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
Here.....
RE: RE: RE: Told you guys  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14635348 Nine-Tails said:
Quote:
In comment 14635325 BleedBlue said:


Quote:


In comment 14635319 HomerJones45 said:


Quote:


to relax. The Cardinals are a terrible team.



i said it before. the cards defense sucks. if our defense steps up we can win



But they have some top players with Jones and Peterson. We cant say the same for our defense



ok? team game...having two good players doesnt mean anything....
bethea and ogletree  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
are so trash
Cards  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
"WE LOVE 3RD DOWN!"
Too fucking  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
Easy on 3rd and 7
Bettcher has to go  
Vinny from Danbury : 10/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
.
When  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
you need a first down, just throw it against our LBs. No pass rush. Can't get off the field on third down. Again.
Maybe the Special Teams Coach  
yalebowl : 10/20/2019 2:06 pm : link
Should become the Head Coach. The great George Allen former head coach of the Rams and the Redskins always emphasized Special Teams.
RE: bethea and ogletree  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 2:06 pm : link
In comment 14635359 mphbullet36 said:
Quote:
are so trash

Their "veteran leadership" is working wonders...
3rd down!!!  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:06 pm : link
.
How about some linebackers and a safety  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/20/2019 2:07 pm : link
get off the DAMN field on 3rd down
Definitely need a high end  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/20/2019 2:07 pm : link
Free safety
Cards  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:07 pm : link
"We love 3rd down!!"
Playing  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:07 pm : link
so far off the receivers is killing us.
Our defensive scheme is pathetic  
Vinny from Danbury : 10/20/2019 2:07 pm : link
.
Can we stop playing the pathetically dumb  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 2:08 pm : link
Its 3rrrrrrrrrrd down.

1 its stupid

2 we cant stop anyone on 3rd down

3 its fucking stupid.
Our D is so far off the WRs  
Giants86 : 10/20/2019 2:08 pm : link
As I sit up here in 335
RE: Maybe the Special Teams Coach  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14635364 yalebowl said:
Quote:
Should become the Head Coach. The great George Allen former head coach of the Rams and the Redskins always emphasized Special Teams.


John Harbaugh went from Special Teams coach to head coach and didn't do too badly.
Idiot Defensive Coordinator  
WillVAB : 10/20/2019 2:08 pm : link
Giving them dink and dunk 5 yard completions all game long. Make a fucking adjustment please.
It's  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
going to suck if they come down and get a TD. At least don't give up more than a FG.
Cards 35 plays giants 13!  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
Lol
We miss Connelly's brain  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
As much as his talent. The D just looked better positioned when he had the green dot.
Man  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
A lot of our front 7 just get bulldozed by linemen.
Why, Why, Why  
Bob in Vt : 10/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
Do our CB's give such a huge cushion ?
3rd down  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
........
Whooot 3rd down fail!  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:10 pm : link
.
RE: Why, Why, Why  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14635380 Bob in Vt said:
Quote:
Do our CB's give such a huge cushion ?


That would be Betchers comedically counter-intuitive scheme
Nice, false start on a 51 yard FG  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 2:11 pm : link
so they have to punt
Great special teams work  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:11 pm : link
Drawing the motion. Lets go Jones
Fuck yeah special teams!  
trueblueinpw : 10/20/2019 2:12 pm : link
Scored a TD and now took a chance for 3 off the field. Good fucking game special teams!
RE: We miss Connelly's brain  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:12 pm : link
In comment 14635378 Somnambulist said:
Quote:
As much as his talent. The D just looked better positioned when he had the green dot.


Agreed. He was a revelation.
Dare I say Special Teams has actually been  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/20/2019 2:12 pm : link
a bright spot?
RE: RE: anyone think Greg Olsen  
section125 : 10/20/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14635343 AcidTest said:
Quote:
In comment 14635320 CMicks3110 said:


Quote:


is a pretty good color man?



Yes. He definitely has a future in that role. Good observations, and doesn't dominate the discussion. And no histrionics.


He's ok. Way too many they need to get off the field on 3rd downs. Enough. Everybody heard him the first 40 times. Correct or not, does not need to be repeated every time.
RE: RE: Why, Why, Why  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14635383 j_rud said:
Quote:
In comment 14635380 Bob in Vt said:


Quote:


Do our CB's give such a huge cushion ?



That would be Betchers comedically counter-intuitive scheme


Element of surprise! Freak em out by leaving all receivers open. Forces drops through shock.
Great job by specials.  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 2:13 pm : link
But yeah..we might have the worst ILB unit in the nfl
Nice of the Cardinals  
USAF NYG Fan : 10/20/2019 2:14 pm : link
to let us stay in this game.
Need a big  
Defense56 : 10/20/2019 2:14 pm : link
Dose of Barkley here
Ok, lets ride  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:14 pm : link
Saquon and score!
I will be curious  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 2:14 pm : link
about defensive adjustments at half time. ( if any)
Need TOP drive  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:15 pm : link
.
Gotta catch  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:15 pm : link
that Fowler. But keep smiling pal.
Jesus benny  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:15 pm : link
Drops and tanglefoot
Fowler  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 2:15 pm : link
Had space
Fowler is soooo bad  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 2:16 pm : link
No wonder no one else signed him.
RE: Gotta catch  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 2:16 pm : link
In comment 14635398 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
that Fowler. But keep smiling pal.


Let the man live, lol
Nice predictable  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:16 pm : link
play calling on 2nd & 5...
RE: RE: Gotta catch  
markky : 10/20/2019 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14635402 Nine-Tails said:
Quote:
In comment 14635398 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


Quote:


that Fowler. But keep smiling pal.



Let the man live, lol


he's living his best life
Pretty laser from Jonesy  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:17 pm : link
!
To predictable??!!  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 2:17 pm : link
come?? Shurmur!
JFC  
Ryan in Albany : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Engram/
Stop dropping  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Catches!

Jesus!
Gotta be fucking  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Kidding me
Needed that  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Tate .
Engram got to catch that
Smdh  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Sigh
Nice  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
drop Evan.
heard  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
footsteps
Jones has that 1 thing for him  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Accuracy
Engram, that's awful  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Jones makes a perfect throw, right in his hands
Engram has too many of those  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Afraid of the hit coming. He's not a top tier TE.
Aw damn!  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Perfectly placed, but Engram looks away.
Fucking hold  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
Jesus!
My  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
goodness Evan.
Rain got to engram  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
.
Engram 2nd rate  
Giants86 : 10/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
Amd the refs blow
Great catch,  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
Engram.
great. two stupid mistakes in a row  
markky : 10/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
come on guys
Ticket tack..  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
Had him by the pads
BS holding call  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
In the NFL
Holding lmfao  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
.
Rarely see  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
inside holding like that ..
Two drops  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:20 pm : link
on that drive. The Engram one was a killer. Beautiful ball that Evan just dropped. No excuses.
Jones  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:20 pm : link
has played much better the last several series. Killer drop by Engram, and another by Fowler.
The holding was called  
yalebowl : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
Because the defender fell down
Dart by DJ.  
Ryan in Albany : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
.
Mistakes killed them  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
.
Nice! 1st down!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
Beautiful throw there by DJ, who has looked good since his pick.
The Holding call  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
was legit
Two plays just kill this drive  
Bramton1 : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
Should have the ball near the 20. Instead probably will punt.
Another laser  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
From Jonesy!

Say this for sure - he doesnt fold when behind.
Great  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
First down pickup
A rare 3rd and 10+ conversion for us  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
Almost forgot what those looked like
Nice throw DJ  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 2:21 pm : link
Tate got his feet back under him!
Nice conversion  
UberAlias : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
That was huge.
Anyone else surprised that  
CT Charlie : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
Barkley didn't take it all the way? Usually he beats guys 1-on-1.
Thats a balls  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
throw
Threads the needle  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
.
Fernandez got beat  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
That was a proper holding call at the point if attack.
RE: The holding was called  
markky : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14635431 yalebowl said:
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Because the defender fell down


we need to teach our guys to fall down more. we used to have the prototypical "fall down" tight end. haven't had much since then.
I feel like Jones has to be  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
Like Scott bakula and wedge the balls into his receivers facemasks so they can catch it
RE: Another laser  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14635437 jpkmets said:
Quote:
From Jonesy!

Say this for sure - he doesnt fold when behind.



Shhh, hes already a bust, he cant come back from that poor throw
It's probably a good thing  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
Barkley's run was negated. Now if we score we are less likely to allow enough time for the Cards to match right back down.
I love Jones's ability to bounce after an early pick.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
Eli like.
very clear  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 2:23 pm : link
whats happened


1/ rhythm throws
2/ offensive line stabilized
Lets fucking go!  
trueblueinpw : 10/20/2019 2:23 pm : link
Love the way the Giants have hung in here. Lets get Barks into the end one and go into the half with a lead.
RE: Fernandez got beat  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14635446 cosmicj said:
Quote:
That was a proper holding call at the point if attack.


Agreed. It definitely impacted the play, and he clearly held the defender.

Great throw by Jones. We're now seeing his accuracy into tight windows. But it also means that our receivers can't get any separation.
Looks more confident  
Darth Paul : 10/20/2019 2:23 pm : link
also looking around and not staring at a receiver. This is what gets me excited about him. Hopefully he doesn't have any more stretches of rookieness in this game. I would love to see Barkley make a couple big plays that stand.
RE: The Holding call  
jhibb : 10/20/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14635435 Dave on the UWS said:
Quote:
was legit


Yeah, don't see why people are complaining about that one. It might have been missed had Barkley not been running by the guy who had his arm out towards him while Hernandez held him.
RE: I feel like Jones has to be  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14635448 Thunderstruck27 said:
Quote:
Like Scott bakula and wedge the balls into his receivers facemasks so they can catch it


Great Necessary Roughness reference.
RE: I love Jones's ability to bounce after an early pick.  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14635452 Britt in VA said:
Quote:
Eli like.


Hopefully it doesn't need to happen often.
Saquon sometimes needs to just fall  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:25 pm : link
down.
Barkley  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:25 pm : link
Cant spin backwards out of fg range.
Barrkley  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 2:25 pm : link
nothing there dude
RE: Barkley  
markky : 10/20/2019 2:25 pm : link
In comment 14635462 jpkmets said:
Quote:
Cant spin backwards out of fg range.


it's caused of the sit down with Sanders. he's done it twice now.
Ooomph  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:26 pm : link
.
Bad  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:26 pm : link
decision by Barkley. That might take us out of FG range.
Cant  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:26 pm : link
Go
Backwards
if we come away without points  
markky : 10/20/2019 2:27 pm : link
ugh! need to be smarter.
That hold definitely did.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:27 pm : link
.
Shitty  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:27 pm : link
Bog down
I love his enthusiasm, but DJ...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:27 pm : link
Don't get out there as a blocker.
Just cant lose  
Giants86 : 10/20/2019 2:27 pm : link
Points. Like that.
Lot of time against Bettcher  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
Who will certainly go even softer here
Jones got blown up.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
.
Why  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
not throw and try and get into FG range?
that really hurt  
markky : 10/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
once you're in FG range you need to play smarter.
That play call....  
odunde : 10/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
Our team might have no quit but our coach sure does.
I hate that 3rd down call.  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
Why not go for a high percentage shiort pass to a crossing receiver to gain a few yards and maybe set them up for a FG? To me, that is a more egregious coaching decision than putting late in the Patriots defeat.
Such a dumb  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
staff
RE: Why  
markky : 10/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14635476 AcidTest said:
Quote:
not throw and try and get into FG range?


too much time left on clock.
Not good enough O  
trueblueinpw : 10/20/2019 2:29 pm : link
Maybe the D can score here?
A clinic on how  
rebel yell : 10/20/2019 2:29 pm : link
stupid and poorly coached teams lose games.
Average  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:29 pm : link
punt.
RE: Not good enough O  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14635482 trueblueinpw said:
Quote:
Maybe the D can score here?


😮
1st half thoughts:  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:29 pm : link
1) Jones has looked great since the first drive INT.
2) Some bad, bad drops.
3) Defense still sucks, especially on 3rd downs.
Well, still very much a game  
jpkmets : 10/20/2019 2:30 pm : link
Did not see that coming
The shotgun  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 2:30 pm : link
runs are so frustrating. Stay under C and pound the ball. Set up play action.

Shurmur isnt the guy.
First half ...  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 2:31 pm : link
We looked like garbage in the first quarter. Second quarter the team looked better, and great special teams play.

Not happy with the first half but at least the team battled back.
Can we stop Defending Shurmur and company?  
giantsFC : 10/20/2019 2:31 pm : link
Second coach in a row that hasnt sparked the magic needed to win in league . Time to move on
And this defensive roster is a disgrace. Unsure if that is front office or coaching philosophy

Move on to the next hope.
Barkley Mistake  
Barkley26 : 10/20/2019 2:31 pm : link
As you can tell I love Barkley, but he has to just fall down instead of trying to play tag with the entire defense. I think he cost us a potential FG.
Welp...  
trueblueinpw : 10/20/2019 2:32 pm : link
On the one hand, came out and played like shit. On the other hand, bounced back and played tough to get back in it.
On that last drive  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 2:32 pm : link
2 drops

2 holding penalties

6 yard loss on running play

3 of those plays took team out of FG range



I  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:32 pm : link
really like the way Jones bounced back after the INT. But I'm concerned about all those tight windows he has to throw into on a regular basis. Our receivers just can't get any separation, even with SB, and the drops are ridiculous.

Our OL is still a problem. There is too much pressure on Jones.

On defense, simple ball fakes and end runs are killing us. The Cardinals used them to dominate possession.
This is my first viewing of Kyler Murray in the NFL.  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 2:33 pm : link
Im very impressed. Great passing accuracy and otherworldly quickness.
RE: Saquon sometimes needs to just fall  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14635461 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
down.


Yeah no doubt. I think he's just over amped a bit after being out and trying to make a big play.

He'll settle down in the 2nd half and just play good ball.
Im 56 years old have been a fan for 56 years  
Giants86 : 10/20/2019 2:33 pm : link
Shurmur is not a head coach

Amd Gettleman gets 1 more year......
RE: Barkley Mistake  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 2:34 pm : link
In comment 14635491 Barkley26 said:
Quote:
As you can tell I love Barkley, but he has to just fall down instead of trying to play tag with the entire defense. I think he cost us a potential FG.


I feel like he should have tried to keep it inside instead of bouncing outside. At least it would've been no gain instead of a loss. But with his inhuman abilities I feel like he had a seam to try to get through.
RE: Can we stop Defending Shurmur and company?  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 2:34 pm : link
In comment 14635490 giantsFC said:
Quote:
Second coach in a row that hasnt sparked the magic needed to win in league . Time to move on
And this defensive roster is a disgrace. Unsure if that is front office or coaching philosophy

Move on to the next hope.



I disagree. Changing coaching staffs every 2 years doesn't necessarily improve things. What if the next guy fails?
This o-line  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 2:34 pm : link
Still sucks. Jones is still under duress most of the time, two holding penalties, and poor run blocking. How much more money do we need to spend on this line to get it right?
Can we get a WR to actually make tough catches outside Tate.  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 2:34 pm : link
And to think a large contigent of people here were bitching about his signing. Thank God the next class is super deep, we are definetly taking someone in midrounds to bolster the WR depth.
Landon Collins - People here have been lying about Collins  
Reese's Pieces : 10/20/2019 2:35 pm : link
Theyre so desperate to defend letting a 24 year old All Pro walk for nothing. Stats by ESPN.

Hes leading in tackles by 11, solo tackles by 10. He has a sack, a forced fumble, 4.5 tackles for a loss and 2 passes defended. Collins has 10 more solo tackles than Peppers.

Like we couldnt use him on our defense. He cant help it if hes on a lousy team. Spider Lockhart couldnt save the Giants defense. But he might be overpaid. Better to lose than overpay.

Let the usual blusterers bluster.
And people really need to stop Bitching about deferring  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 2:36 pm : link
Big in a game like this to get ball at half.
RE: RE: Can we stop Defending Shurmur and company?  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14635501 Photoguy said:
Quote:
In comment 14635490 giantsFC said:


Quote:


Second coach in a row that hasnt sparked the magic needed to win in league . Time to move on
And this defensive roster is a disgrace. Unsure if that is front office or coaching philosophy

Move on to the next hope.




I disagree. Changing coaching staffs every 2 years doesn't necessarily improve things. What if the next guy fails?


Thats a legitimate fear. I think Shurmur is a placeholder until the team is ready. But when the time comes, I hope the giants identify their guy early and are aggressive. Mara typically follows league protocol and misses out on some guys
RE: Landon Collins - People here have been lying about Collins  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14635505 Reese's Pieces said:
Quote:
Theyre so desperate to defend letting a 24 year old All Pro walk for nothing. Stats by ESPN.

Hes leading in tackles by 11, solo tackles by 10. He has a sack, a forced fumble, 4.5 tackles for a loss and 2 passes defended. Collins has 10 more solo tackles than Peppers.

Like we couldnt use him on our defense. He cant help it if hes on a lousy team. Spider Lockhart couldnt save the Giants defense. But he might be overpaid. Better to lose than overpay.

Let the usual blusterers bluster.


No shit he's having a good game, they are playing a run heavy team with little passing game. Sample size of 1 hardly proves anything.
RE: Landon Collins - People here have been lying about Collins  
WillVAB : 10/20/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14635505 Reese's Pieces said:
Quote:
Theyre so desperate to defend letting a 24 year old All Pro walk for nothing. Stats by ESPN.

Hes leading in tackles by 11, solo tackles by 10. He has a sack, a forced fumble, 4.5 tackles for a loss and 2 passes defended. Collins has 10 more solo tackles than Peppers.

Like we couldnt use him on our defense. He cant help it if hes on a lousy team. Spider Lockhart couldnt save the Giants defense. But he might be overpaid. Better to lose than overpay.

Let the usual blusterers bluster.


He wasnt worth the price of admission.
RE: RE: Can we stop Defending Shurmur and company?  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14635501 Photoguy said:
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I disagree. Changing coaching staffs every 2 years doesn't necessarily improve things. What if the next guy fails?
. This is mistakenly reversing the causality direction. Good teams make good hiring decisions which allow the coaches to have tenures >2 years. Bad teams make bad coaching hires and are forced to replace them quickly.

Youre not making Shurmur into a good coach by giving him extra time.
Barkley is trying to make too much happen after being sidelined  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 2:38 pm : link
Not surprising, he'll settle down in second half after his RB coach or PS talks to him.
RE: This is my first viewing of Kyler Murray in the NFL.  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14635496 cosmicj said:
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Im very impressed. Great passing accuracy and otherworldly quickness.


Agreed.
Murray does look good...  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:45 pm : link
but he does look little out there.
I'd like to see  
Defense56 : 10/20/2019 2:46 pm : link
Barkley get the ball twice in a row
Barkley  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 2:46 pm : link
Shouldve been the guy on that play
No one was close to  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 2:46 pm : link
Open
Fuck !  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 2:46 pm : link
Run the dam ball !
RE: RE: RE: Can we stop Defending Shurmur and company?  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14635510 cosmicj said:
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In comment 14635501 Photoguy said:


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I disagree. Changing coaching staffs every 2 years doesn't necessarily improve things. What if the next guy fails?

. This is mistakenly reversing the causality direction. Good teams make good hiring decisions which allow the coaches to have tenures >2 years. Bad teams make bad coaching hires and are forced to replace them quickly.

Youre not making Shurmur into a good coach by giving him extra time.



Ok, I'll give you that, but I want to wait until this season is over. Right now, I'm still in the 'keep Shurmur " camp.
OL is not having  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:46 pm : link
a good day.
RE: I'd like to see  
Joey from GlenCove : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14635515 Defense56 said:
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Barkley get the ball twice in a row


Against the rules. You cant

Sorry
Barkley was wide open on that 3rd down play  
SimpleMan : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
Jones didn't see him
Cards d dancing  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
.
Deferring to the 2H  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
Genius by Shurmur.
So  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
we go three and out to start the half. Why have a deep drop on third and short? Throw something quick to get the first down.
running into the kicker  
nicky43 : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
missed call
RE: And people really need to stop Bitching about deferring  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14635506 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Big in a game like this to get ball at half.


Yeah if you have a staff who can process what's happened in the 1st half and actually make adjustments for the first drive coming out. Unfortunately we're not lucky enough to have that.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
rush 4 and get to jones. insane.

also no running into kicker?
Its a good thing  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
We get the ball in the second half. Hahahahaha
This offense is abysmal and its not jones fault  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 2:47 pm : link
Receivers dont get open and get any separation, when he hits them they drop half his passes -the drops by fowler and engram were egregious, barkley runs backwards way too much, and shurumur play calling is so bland .

Im not sure what more he can do at this point until he gets some more help from coaching and personnel
Solder  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
lol
RE: running into the kicker  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14635526 nicky43 said:
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missed call


He got a piece of the ball which made the hit after legal.
Damn  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
3rd and three we still have to pass
my God Give the ball to Barkley .
This team wont succeed  
odunde : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
Until we have an offensive coordinator calling plays. There are head coaches with the capacity to do this. Shurmur has repeatedly shown he isnt one of them.
RE: ...  
micky : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14635528 BleedBlue said:
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rush 4 and get to jones. insane.

also no running into kicker?


Ball was tipped
OL is still trash  
Greg from LI : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
.
Garbage  
Barkley26 : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
Schurmur is a garbage coach whos holding this team back. Ive seen enough to know that hes not the guy.
I feel like he could've gotten the ball to barkley on that play  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
our weapons dont get much separation at all
Shurmur's use of Saquon-going back to last season-  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
is really WTF? like.
The  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:49 pm : link
OL is poor and the receivers don't get separation. Maybe some misdirection would help.
Empty backfield on 3rd and 3  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 2:49 pm : link
I am done with Shurmur. Seriously.
OL is fucking up again  
Chris684 : 10/20/2019 2:49 pm : link
I hate that play call on 3rd and short.
RE: RE: running into the kicker  
nicky43 : 10/20/2019 2:49 pm : link
In comment 14635532 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 14635526 nicky43 said:


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missed call



He got a piece of the ball which made the hit after legal.


Thanks. Didn't see that.
I'd like to see him run some screens.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:50 pm : link
.
Calling This OL Improved  
Jeffrey : 10/20/2019 2:50 pm : link
Is a comment on how bad they were last year.
RE: RE: Landon Collins - People here have been lying about Collins  
PetesHereNow : 10/20/2019 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14635508 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14635505 Reese's Pieces said:


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Theyre so desperate to defend letting a 24 year old All Pro walk for nothing. Stats by ESPN.

Hes leading in tackles by 11, solo tackles by 10. He has a sack, a forced fumble, 4.5 tackles for a loss and 2 passes defended. Collins has 10 more solo tackles than Peppers.

Like we couldnt use him on our defense. He cant help it if hes on a lousy team. Spider Lockhart couldnt save the Giants defense. But he might be overpaid. Better to lose than overpay.

Let the usual blusterers bluster.



No shit he's having a good game, they are playing a run heavy team with little passing game. Sample size of 1 hardly proves anything.

Plus its a monsoon in DC.
I realize Barkley is just  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 2:50 pm : link
back from injury but can Shurmur use him more frequently? Look at how the Panthers use McAffrey and Saints use Kamara. Its like Shurmur doesnt want to give Barkley the ball two times in a row.
RE: OL is fucking up again  
D_Giants : 10/20/2019 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14635544 Chris684 said:
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I hate that play call on 3rd and short.


Thaw best part? All the routes were 2 yards?
Third and three  
bluesince56 : 10/20/2019 2:51 pm : link
Empty backfield??
Absolutely dumping down rain right now  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 2:51 pm : link
A monsoon
Cardinals just kept it on the ground  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 2:51 pm : link
because the weather deteriorated
3 and  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 2:53 pm : link
Out
RE: Third and three  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14635552 bluesince56 said:
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Empty backfield??

And Barkley on your team.
This weather is easily advantage NYG  
Chris684 : 10/20/2019 2:53 pm : link
Can our HC take advantage of it?

You can see the Cards getting more and more hesitant.
We  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:53 pm : link
finally had a decent PR without a penalty.
RE: RE: OL is fucking up again  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14635551 D_Giants said:
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In comment 14635544 Chris684 said:


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I hate that play call on 3rd and short.



Thaw best part? All the routes were 2 yards?


Barkley went seven yds
RE: This weather is easily advantage NYG  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14635557 Chris684 said:
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Can our HC take advantage of it?

You can see the Cards getting more and more hesitant.
j

Seriously. Run... the fucking... ball.
The sooner they realize shurmur is a joke of a head coach the sooner  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 2:53 pm : link
we can all move on. His play calling and lack of aggression are terrible. I have seen more then enough of him to know he has no creativity, aggression, or ability to elevate the personnel on the team
RE: Empty backfield on 3rd and 3  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14635543 Johnny5 said:
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I am done with Shurmur. Seriously.

Let's pass rushers pin their ears back without SB in backfield.
Should Be Able To Throw...  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 2:54 pm : link
in the rain.

WRs know where they're going and the conditions make it harder for the DBs to cut and defend.

As long as there's no wind, rain doesn't hurt the O.
They should be playing  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 2:55 pm : link
with a FB a lot this half. Lets see if Mr Brilliant recognizes this.
nice grab by Ellison.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:56 pm : link
.
nice Lattimer.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 2:57 pm : link
.
This offensive line is offensive  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 2:57 pm : link
Im not seeing any improvement at all in either run blocking or pass blocking
Wow.  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 2:58 pm : link
Jones was crushed on that first down pass. Someone blew an assignment.
Crowd loud  
Darth Paul : 10/20/2019 2:59 pm : link
when Barkley touches the ball they must be reading BBI...
Yeah, Murphy was mugging Tate  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 2:59 pm : link
definitely a penalty
Jones  
Mike in NY : 10/20/2019 3:00 pm : link
Needs to sense that
It's  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:00 pm : link
a combination of problems. The OL is poor, and our receivers can't get separation.
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
we cant set up a screen going on 8 years now
That was just bad  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
Inexcusable
Man that sucks  
Joey from GlenCove : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
-
Incredibly sloppy with the ball  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
there.
That's a bad rookie mistake  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
Nothing is on. That's a blown up play and he just has to throw it away
Jones has to get rid of it  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
.
Jones pocket awareness is a pretty huge issue  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
.
i'll say it again!  
nicky43 : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
Jones needs to learn Pocket Presence!
Jones..  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
..sucks.
Dumb call again  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
Just keep running it. Fucking unreal.
Saw that coming  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
.
Ugh.  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
.
Not good DJ  
jogo1 : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
.
Nice idiot play,  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
Jones.
Damn it Jones  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
are you ever gonna learn for every TD
he hand them one back .
Just frustrating watching him hold the ball
forever
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
we definitely need to add a WR in offseason. someone who can separate. tate and shep arent bad, but we need someone to stretch field, we just ont have that...
Jones has to have more awareness than that  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
. There's rookie shit and then there's just shit QB play
terrible rookie mistake  
markky : 10/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
Jones needs to throw that away
That  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
is absolutely on Jones. Holding the ball waaaaaay too long, and then gets stripped. We at least needed a FG attempt from that drive. Awful.
I like the eyes downfield thing but DJ has to see  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
these rushers better from his right.

Put Eli back in :-)
He's Got To See That...  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
coming. Protect the f**king ball!!!
told u guys  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
DJ is a huge risk of being jameis winston
fuck...  
antdog24 : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
you can't learn pocket presence.. its a 6th sense
Where's Eli?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
Zona sniffed out the screen and SB got caught in traffic. Throw it away or move to your left.
What an idiotic play design  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
You have Engram blocking Chandler Jones!! This is f'd up.
I question  
dlauster : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
Whether Jones is our long term guy. That was inexcusable.
RT got blown up  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
.
Again Barkley cant  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
get 2 touches in a row. Great adjustments at halftime. Glad Shurmur deferred to the 2H.
That was awful  
Jersey Heel : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
By Jones. We had a great drive going and started to capture momentum. Damn.
They should be winning this game.  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
Coughing up opportunity after opportunity. Sign of a bad team. Getting tired of watching this shit
Now  
Danny L : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
that was just bad
part of it is play design/execution  
viggie : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
engram blocking chandler jones is a mismatch to begin with.
Chandler Jones is dominating this game.  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
.
Turnovers  
UberAlias : 10/20/2019 3:02 pm : link
Growing a bigger concern week to week.
He has to learn to protect  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
the ball in the pocket, or he will have a short career. Its a bad habit he has to fix - and fast !
RE: i'll say it again!  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
In comment 14635581 nicky43 said:
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Jones needs to learn Pocket Presence!


If only he had a coach who was supposedly a QB guru.
RE: RE: RE: Can we stop Defending Shurmur and company?  
giantsFC : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
In comment 14635510 cosmicj said:
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In comment 14635501 Photoguy said:


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I disagree. Changing coaching staffs every 2 years doesn't necessarily improve things. What if the next guy fails?

. This is mistakenly reversing the causality direction. Good teams make good hiring decisions which allow the coaches to have tenures >2 years. Bad teams make bad coaching hires and are forced to replace them quickly.

Youre not making Shurmur into a good coach by giving him extra time.


Good insight. It really is a cycle
Does Shurshit  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
Realize its fucking pouring out ????

So sick of watching this idiot call plays !

I know DJ has got to feel the pressure ... Remmers sucks!!
he has to stop with that shit.  
short lease : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
Get rid of the ball. I know he is a rookie and will learn ... geez.
This OLine SUCKS!!!  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
Number 1 priority in the off-season, get two offensive tackles!!
He's no Eli Manning...  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
...that's for sure.
This is my problem with Shurmur  
NY-Fan : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
They are getting right to the edge of field goal rang where they can tie up the game at least. They have a chance to run it again and continue to soften up the defense and he gets sloppy with his play calling.

I was in support of him but he is losing me very fast.
Bust  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
Bust; Bust
Wow. Awful AWFUL pocket presence  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
By Jones as usual. AND, even before that? The OL. This OL still sucks hairy fucking moose balls.
He just  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
Had to get rid of that
Get DJ those video-game virtual-reality goggles  
CT Charlie : 10/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
to develop peripheral vision.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:04 pm : link
barkley was late getting out there, but my god. we havent had a sreen game in like 5+ years
I've  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:04 pm : link
said before, I think we should consider using a sixth OL.
Check that ingram  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:04 pm : link
.
RE: Does Shurshit  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14635611 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:
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Realize its fucking pouring out ????

So sick of watching this idiot call plays !

I know DJ has got to feel the pressure ... Remmers sucks!!


Nevermind it was Engram
Engram blocks like a WR  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 3:04 pm : link
They may as well just play him there and get a real TE.
Dumb by Carter  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 3:04 pm : link
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More  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:04 pm : link
missed tackles. It's just amazing how many times we do an ole, and overrun the play and the ballcarrier.
That Jones fumble may turn the game  
Sean : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
AWFUL turnover there.
i'd like  
AndyMilligan : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
to know what Jones was thinking there. You have a beast bearing down on you, two feet away, dump the ball or a fumble is inevitable
That's a bad call  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
Murray is extremely fast and there's not much Carter can do to stop himself
RE: Engram blocks like a WR  
odunde : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14635624 Somnambulist said:
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They may as well just play him there and get a real TE.


You expect him to block chandler jones? Lol. Thats on the coaches.
It's not about pocket presence  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
It's about a timing play developing. Barkley got tangled up at the line
Bullshit  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
Call giving he game away now
RE: told u guys  
short lease : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14635595 huygens20 said:
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DJ is a huge risk of being jameis winston


Yep ... you told. Why didn't I listen?
Thats a god awful call  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
.
RE: He's no Eli Manning...  
Canton : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14635614 Gary JC said:
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...that's for sure.


That's horseshit.. Eli has fumbles in the same exact manner. And did it through his career.
And here we go  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
We shotgun ourselves in the foot on the brink of FG range, then hand them FG range with a penalty
once a team makes one dumb mistake they  
markky : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
then seem to string 2 or 3 more together.

this could quickly turn into a 2 score game.
Is that Jim Brown out there?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
Good God, this defense...
That's  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
so weak.
Lol Murray looks like a toddler out there  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:05 pm : link
Eating up giants d
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
this tea BADLY needs LBers. omg...its pathetic
Back  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
To reality we suck
Terrible tackling  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
Atrocious
and boom  
markky : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
it's a 2 score game.
Get shurmur the fuck out of here  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
Every week he is the HC here is a waste
Holy shit  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
What a pathetic defense
3 td's today!!!!  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
.
14 pts off Jones turnovers  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
I love the kid but hes gotta stop giving the goddamn ball away
Three fucking  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
touchdowns where he wasn't fucking touched.
anyone have Edmunds on their fantasy team today?  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
whooping it up against the Giants defense?
Offense is going to have to do something.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
They've only scored 7 points. No excuses.
Bad all around but did you all see the angle Bethea  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
took on the touchdown run?

Worst defensive player in the LEAGUE
Murray looks like a top 10 Qb  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
Jones doesn't
And we cant  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
get jack shit going with Saquon Barkley
That's  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
two TDs off Jones's turnovers.
Embarrassing  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
7 points against this shitty defense.
Cardinals score by keeping the ball on the ground.  
CT Charlie : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
Brilliant play-calling, eh?
no confidence in Shurmur.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
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RE: Bad all around but did you all see the angle Bethea  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14635652 Jimmy Googs said:
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took on the touchdown run?

Worst defensive player in the LEAGUE


Bethea is trash. He really shouldn't be on this team.
I love this team  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
Yep. So easy to root for.
RE: It's not about pocket presence  
crick n NC : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14635631 Thunderstruck27 said:
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It's about a timing play developing. Barkley got tangled up at the line


Actually it is. The qb knows it's a screen any disruption you have to get rid of it
The Giants are one of the worst NFL franchises.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
Chew on that.
Bethea with a terrible angle  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
For the 3rd time. Hes done so on all three Edmunds touchdowns. Hey but hes a veteran so keep sending him out there over Love!
NO gap control  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
The lack of discipline is appalling.
RE: RE: He's no Eli Manning...  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14635635 Canton said:
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In comment 14635614 Gary JC said:


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...that's for sure.

We got our selves another Eli



That's horseshit.. Eli has fumbles in the same exact manner. And did it through his career.
This is  
dlauster : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
Exactly how shitty teams lose football games.
RE: I question  
BigBlueFan04 : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14635599 dlauster said:
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Whether Jones is our long term guy. That was inexcusable.



He's a fucking rookie dude!!! Give him a fucking break!! Jesus Christ, you're looking to throw him under the bus after five games!
RE: Murray looks like a top 10 Qb  
jgambrosio : 10/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14635653 bigbluescot said:
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Jones doesn't


Huh? All Murray has done today is hand off
Disgusting .....  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
They see the play 20 times and still can't defend it .
Jones with the predictable turnover .
Is it the play call as well ?
RE: Offense is going to have to do something.  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14635651 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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They've only scored 7 points. No excuses.


Not vs this vaunted defense
They had their chance before half and after the half  
NY-Fan : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
but the drops, penalties, O-line, turnovers & poor playcalling is doing them in. All characteristics of a poorly coached team.
Jones' two F ups-INT & fumble-  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
lead to 14 for Arizona. Other than that, he's been fine, but yes...other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
there are so many pussies on these game threads. nut the fuck up guys. we are gonna win haha
these TD runs are some of the easiest  
bluepepper : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
I've seen a guy get and 3 in one game. SMH.
Why  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
can the Cardinals run Edmunds, but we can't with Barkley? Our OL is barely better than last year. There is constant pressure from the edges and up the middle.
I think that personal foul call on Lorenzo Carter  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
Was a make up call for no flag going down on Ogletree in the first half. Carters hit was a glancing blow with no malice intended. Not sure it matters since our run defense is in tatters.
RE: told u guys  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14635595 huygens20 said:
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DJ is a huge risk of being jameis winston


Stfu
RE: I've  
short lease : 10/20/2019 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14635621 AcidTest said:
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said before, I think we should consider using a sixth OL.


I am beginning to warm to that suggestion.
And just a few weeks ago I was told the Giants' defense is now "stout"  
Greg from LI : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
What a joke.
Some serious galaxy brain stuff going on here.  
phil in arizona : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
We dont really run the ball in the 1st half until the 2 minute offense.

Then on that crucial 3rd down they have Engram blocking Chandler Jones one on one. Shouldnt he be in a route w Ellison blocking?


2nd overall  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
on a RB and we cant run the ball. sad.
RE: Bethea with a terrible angle  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14635663 Jay on the Island said:
Quote:
For the 3rd time. Hes done so on all three Edmunds touchdowns. Hey but hes a veteran so keep sending him out there over Love!


Yup. They also won't play Ballentine on defense.
Run stoppers  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
Tomlinson and Lawrence are not pass rushers but are run defenders?
RE: Why  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14635675 AcidTest said:
Quote:
can the Cardinals run Edmunds, but we can't with Barkley? Our OL is barely better than last year. There is constant pressure from the edges and up the middle.


Better coaching the play design is better and our defense is a joke
RE: RE: I question  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14635667 BigBlueFan04 said:
Quote:
In comment 14635599 dlauster said:


Quote:


Whether Jones is our long term guy. That was inexcusable.




He's a fucking rookie dude!!! Give him a fucking break!! Jesus Christ, you're looking to throw him under the bus after five games!


True. Lets see what he does next year. That was a bad coached play.
RE: RE: I question  
dlauster : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14635667 BigBlueFan04 said:
Quote:
In comment 14635599 dlauster said:


Ummm I just said I was questioning. Read the comment please Quote:


Whether Jones is our long term guy. That was inexcusable.




He's a fucking rookie dude!!! Give him a fucking break!! Jesus Christ, you're looking to throw him under the bus after five games!
This team is ran by a bunch of idiot coaches..  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
It's so embarrassing. So sick and tired of the Giants having shitty coaches..
Maybe in three more years they can Actually Fix the offensive line  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
.
RE: these TD runs are some of the easiest  
odunde : 10/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14635674 bluepepper said:
Quote:
I've seen a guy get and 3 in one game. SMH.


Our inside backers are.....not great!
blocking chandler 1-1 with engram  
jmalls23 : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
what else do you need to know?
Hope he has a short memory.  
short lease : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
lets go ...
RE: 2nd overall  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14635682 broadbandz said:
Quote:
on a RB and we cant run the ball. sad.


Barkley isn't healthy. Can't cut on that ankle.
Shredded D  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
lol what a joke
Barkley hurt again  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
Great
Our only good player  
D_Giants : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
Looks hurt.
RE: RE: He's no Eli Manning...  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14635635 Canton said:
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In comment 14635614 Gary JC said:


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...that's for sure.



That's horseshit.. Eli has fumbles in the same exact manner. And did it through his career.


The kid's a liability. It's a shame. Eli has 2 SB rings and is top ten all-time in a lot of categories.
RE: RE: I question  
dlauster : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
Actually I said I was just questioning.

In comment 14635667 BigBlueFan04 said:
Quote:
In comment 14635599 dlauster said:


Quote:


Whether Jones is our long term guy. That was inexcusable.




He's a fucking rookie dude!!! Give him a fucking break!! Jesus Christ, you're looking to throw him under the bus after five games!
Ariz is attacking  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
on both offense and defense. Our D is playing read and react - a bad s game against this offense.
Great.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
Now Saquon comes up lame.
,,,,  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
barkley hurt again
He never even tries to establish the run  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
Never runs the ball twice in a row. Horrible play caller
It's the Cardinals  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
don't give up yet.
As a Fordham grad, I was hoping Chase  
Section331 : 10/20/2019 3:10 pm : link
would play well, but this is ridiculous.
RE: Barkley hurt again  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14635695 Dave in PA said:
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Great


Giants brought him back too soon.
RE: RE: RE: He's no Eli Manning...  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14635698 Gary JC said:
Quote:
In comment 14635635 Canton said:


Quote:


In comment 14635614 Gary JC said:


Quote:


...that's for sure.



That's horseshit.. Eli has fumbles in the same exact manner. And did it through his career.



The kid's a liability. It's a shame. Eli has 2 SB rings and is top ten all-time in a lot of categories.



Can we ban these trolls
Time to sit Barkley  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:11 pm : link
Chalk up another loss
Terrible throw
RE: ...  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14635641 BleedBlue said:
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this tea BADLY needs LBers. omg...its pathetic


How sad is it that the team of LT, Carson, Banks and VanPelt has been so bad at LB for so long.
Great....  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 3:11 pm : link
Barkley hurt again.....
Where  
PaulN : 10/20/2019 3:11 pm : link
Are the people who told us everything will change with Jones, that Eli was the big problem here. Think he was the still the problem? This is a shot organization. Where is the promising defensive line, blame the coaches? Right now there is not one fucking thing to be optimistic about. Nothing. There is not one thing we can say we can rely on, n it Gettleman, passing in Darnokd, nothing.
Looks  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:11 pm : link
like Barkley hurt his hamstring.
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:12 pm : link
the fucking OL sucks balls....

any time they run the ball more then 5 yards  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:12 pm : link
theres a holding call
Solder  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:12 pm : link
sucks.
Solder  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 3:12 pm : link
Unreal.......
RE: Looks  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14635712 AcidTest said:
Quote:
like Barkley hurt his hamstring.



ankle
Terrible call  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:12 pm : link
That was nothing
Stopped on a whammy  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
.
Another fucking holding call  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
.
Fuck yeah  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
Halapio.
Considering  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
Every time we run its holding maybe we shouldnt run
every positive run  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
The Flag come out
automatic.....
cheap  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
shot
Another  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
hold. Solder.
Solder is a damn joke  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
.
3 holds and 9 pressures  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
Another banner day for the hogmollies
This offensive line  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
is garbage.
Well Arizona gets dinged with a 15 yarder  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
for hitting Jones late
Late hit  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
.
RE: Where  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14635711 PaulN said:
Quote:
Are the people who told us everything will change with Jones, that Eli was the big problem here. Think he was the still the problem? This is a shot organization. Where is the promising defensive line, blame the coaches? Right now there is not one fucking thing to be optimistic about. Nothing. There is not one thing we can say we can rely on, n it Gettleman, passing in Darnokd, nothing.


Why don't we wait for Eli's 21 million in cap space to come on the books before we declare our rookie a bust brainiac?
How many yards is Engram going to get on that play  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:14 pm : link
What's the point of even running that
Engram with another  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:14 pm : link
drop. Wake up Evan.
RE: RE: RE: RE: He's no Eli Manning...  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14635707 cokeduplt said:
Quote:
In comment 14635698 Gary JC said:


Quote:


In comment 14635635 Canton said:


Quote:


In comment 14635614 Gary JC said:


Quote:


...that's for sure.



That's horseshit.. Eli has fumbles in the same exact manner. And did it through his career.



The kid's a liability. It's a shame. Eli has 2 SB rings and is top ten all-time in a lot of categories.




Can we ban these trolls


I've been here since the blog's inception. Go sit down.
Was screaming at the screen before they threw that flag  
Bramton1 : 10/20/2019 3:14 pm : link
.
I see Eli taught DJ  
fkap : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
the 'slide' technique of throwing yourself at the ground and hoping you hit it.
RE: RE: Where  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14635731 Thunderstruck27 said:
Quote:
In comment 14635711 PaulN said:


Quote:


Are the people who told us everything will change with Jones, that Eli was the big problem here. Think he was the still the problem? This is a shot organization. Where is the promising defensive line, blame the coaches? Right now there is not one fucking thing to be optimistic about. Nothing. There is not one thing we can say we can rely on, n it Gettleman, passing in Darnokd, nothing.



Why don't we wait for Eli's 21 million in cap space to come on the books before we declare our rookie a bust brainiac?



LMAO. FIVE GAMES. killing jones after 4.5 starts
O-line  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
Stinks !
awful playcaling  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
agsin
The  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
whole offense looks tentative and unsure of what it wants to do.
SHUrmur  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
Needs to go. I cant watch this horrible play anymore good lord
RE: Engram with another  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14635733 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
drop. Wake up Evan.


That one almost doesn't matter because he's not gaining any yards on the play
Offense  
LeftHook : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
Offensive, jeez
This hurry up out of the huddle has to go  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
DOESNT FUCKING WORK
RE: How many yards is Engram going to get on that play  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14635732 dpinzow said:
Quote:
What's the point of even running that
agreed. Engram is playing terribly. Injury hangover? Should he have been cleared to play?
Procedural flags, multiple holds, drops, etc  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
This is just a poorly coached team.
RE: Where  
twostepgiants : 10/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14635711 PaulN said:
Quote:
Are the people who told us everything will change with Jones, that Eli was the big problem here. Think he was the still the problem? This is a shot organization. Where is the promising defensive line, blame the coaches? Right now there is not one fucking thing to be optimistic about. Nothing. There is not one thing we can say we can rely on, n it Gettleman, passing in Darnokd, nothing.


Eli is still done.
That would have been a good time  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:16 pm : link
For a screen.
Cardinals are reading  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 3:16 pm : link
everything that Shurmur is calling lol
Beautiful throw there by DJ  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:16 pm : link
on 4th & 6.
Engram pokes in the eye?  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 3:16 pm : link
.
Thats what I want to see.  
UberAlias : 10/20/2019 3:16 pm : link
Nice conversion
Nice play call Shurmur  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:16 pm : link
.
RE: RE: Where  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
In comment 14635748 twostepgiants said:
Quote:
In comment 14635711 PaulN said:


Quote:


Are the people who told us everything will change with Jones, that Eli was the big problem here. Think he was the still the problem? This is a shot organization. Where is the promising defensive line, blame the coaches? Right now there is not one fucking thing to be optimistic about. Nothing. There is not one thing we can say we can rely on, n it Gettleman, passing in Darnokd, nothing.



Eli is still done.

I hope you have noticed how badlu or OL stil sucks hairy fucking moose balls???
What  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
a throw. Engram hurt.
Nice throw in conditions with time  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
.
RE: Cardinals are reading  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
In comment 14635750 prdave73 said:
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everything that Shurmur is calling lol

Often just soft zoning wco weenie spacing and slants.
Halapio  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
belongs on the bench he has been terrible
Cardinals lined up offside  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
and the refs missed it
If  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
Jones had kept the ball on first down, he could have run for a TD.
That run up the middle????!?!?!!?1?!?1?!!?1?1  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
WTF is that??
Feel like this will end with a botched FG  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
Just that kinda day
Oline  
Barkley26 : 10/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
Still sucks and Ghettoman cant sign good free agents.
Jones is going to get injured  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
He is taking way too many hits
RE: Engram pokes in the eye?  
markky : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14635752 Dave in PA said:
Quote:
.


looked dirty
The play-calling is awful!!!!!?????  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
wtf???? Shurmur is bad......
RE: Feel like this will end with a botched FG  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14635763 j_rud said:
Quote:
Just that kinda day


Damn you.
They only run slants  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
I would jump that shit every play
We threw a flag........  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
For no reason. 😂
This team  
rocco8112 : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
sucks so very bad
RE: Feel like this will end with a botched FG  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14635763 j_rud said:
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Just that kinda day


Told ya
Fitting  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
Shurmur is a loser ...
This one's  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
over.
RE: Feel like this will end with a botched FG  
markky : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14635763 j_rud said:
Quote:
Just that kinda day


called it
Dunk  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 3:19 pm : link
oh christ
RE: Feel like this will end with a botched FG  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14635763 j_rud said:
Quote:
Just that kinda day


LOL ... you're right
J_rud  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
Haha.
Low snap  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
.
Not even the FGs are working  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
I'd rather be at work.
Rosas has been shaky all year  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
Sneaking a lot of easy kicks just inside the upright. Cant miss that kick
Un  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
Fuckingbelievable
Rosas hits the post from 37, no good  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
no FG is going to be easy in this kind of weather
DOINK!!  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
.
Nice snap  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
All world long snapper. He's Steve Deossie's son, makes him worth a roster spot.
My  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
goodness. When it rains it pours. Terrible snap.
RE: Feel like this will end with a botched FG  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14635763 j_rud said:
Quote:
Just that kinda day


Lol
Bad team  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
Just a bad fucking team
Good Lord  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
could feel that coming a mile away.
Nice  
XBRONX : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
kick
Arizona looks like  
Massgman : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
A much better team
I hate this team.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
Unlovable losers.
O-line should be ashamed of themselves  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
guys standing around with their arm hanging down while Arizona rushers still coming after DJ.

Hold your damn blocks....
The Lions  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
are gonna skull fuck us...sigh.
Pro Bowl kicker  
jogo1 : 10/20/2019 3:21 pm : link
.
he's been hooking it all year  
antdog24 : 10/20/2019 3:21 pm : link
I called that shit before the snap.
RE: Pro Bowl kicker  
Bramton1 : 10/20/2019 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14635795 jogo1 said:
Quote:
.


Not this year.
This is looking like  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:21 pm : link
A 2-14 team. Cant score on the 30 th ranked defense. Embarrassing
RE: They only run slants  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14635769 Rflairr said:
Quote:
I would jump that shit every play

Someone running seam draws those LBs back opening up the short pass.
Bad team starts with a  
prdave73 : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
BAD Coach!!!
RE: he's been hooking it all year  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14635796 antdog24 said:
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I called that shit before the snap.


That was a bad snap. More on DeOssie to be fair
Now watch cards answer with a td  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
.
Some fo you guys can kill jones  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
But the kid is being put in such a terrible position to succeed with this dufus coach, garbage OL with pressure on almost every throw, no weapons outside of tate, no running game...he is not going to be a miracle worker especially in his 5th game
OMG  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
I literally HATE this fucking team. I can't even watch this shit anymore. I'm going for a drive fuck these losers.
So bad  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
So fucking bad.
Jones  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
is holding the ball for forever because our receivers can't get any separation. That's also why he's throwing into absurdly tight windows almost every time. It's up to the coaches to design some plays to at least mitigate that problem.
3RD & 11 AND WE GIVE UP A FIRST ON A RUNNING PLAY  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
OMFG.

FIRE THIS STAFF NOW.
Arizona makes a 1st down on 3rd and 11 running the football  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
That is putrid. They are pretty much giving up the possession!
3rd and 11  
Somnambulist : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
And a run up the middle gets 12...
Fuck  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
you Giants
3rd and 11...  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
...first down on a run!! LOL
Gonna be a long year in New York sports  
jgambrosio : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
Now that baseball season is over
Im just not feeling it with Shurmur  
NY-Fan : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
I dont like the feel of the team with him in charge. I know people can change and improve but I just dont like the Giants play under him. They seem soft and not very mentally tough.
RE: This is looking like  
markky : 10/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14635798 Rflairr said:
Quote:
A 2-14 team. Cant score on the 30 th ranked defense. Embarrassing


7 points on the 30th ranked defense. seems impossible
Other quarterbacks are throwing  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
To guys who are wide open, Jones doesnt have that luxury
Lol rush 11 for first on 3rd down  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
Lol
Betcher can't be serious with this  
ghost718 : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
This is a joke
Third  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
and eleven, and they run for a first down. Wow.
3rd and 11  
antdog24 : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
fuck me.... this team is pitiful
Chase Edmunds  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
Greatest running back of all time.
And again  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
Shurmur and the Giants cant get DICK with Saquon Barkley
That 3rd and 11 run call and they get 12 yards  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
is embarrassing. Shitcan shurmur and this whole coaching staff after the game
Some day the Giants will think about getting a real  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
middle LB...
This team just dick-punches you week in and week out  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
After several years of this Im beginning to wonder why i keep wasting my Sundays looking forward to this garbage.
F**k Me  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
1st down on a giveup play.
Lets see the excuses  
ryanmkeane : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
Shurmur uses for this loss.
That last play...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
I don't even know what to say.
Shurmur  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
Must go fuck this. The team cant do anything right
RE: That 3rd and 11 run call and they get 12 yards  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14635822 Giantfan21 said:
Quote:
is embarrassing. Shitcan shurmur and this whole coaching staff after the game


they have no LBers....its pretty simple why people run all over us
This coaching staff is a joke  
WillVAB : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
This franchise is going nowhere even if Gettleman drafts all-pros in every round.
RE: Some day the Giants will think about getting a real  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14635823 Jimmy Googs said:
Quote:
middle LB...


The one real middle LB they had blew out his knee unfortunately
That 3rd down botch was on Lawrence  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
. Just shot upfield.
Giants D couldn't turn over  
viggie : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
St Mary's elementary school. Can't tackle,can't stop a run, can't get a stop on a 3rd and 11 run. Think about that a bit.
I said it before  
mittenedman : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
and I hope its true: this was a big game for Shurmur. He needed a good coaching performance. At least I hope so.
Pathetic game all around  
Blue Ninja : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
Only player with a good game is Tate so far.
Ive seen enough  
McNally's_Nuts : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
Of this coaching staff.

This aint it, Davey Getts
ya know what...  
antdog24 : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
for the first time in my life, im done with this game. I'm gonna go play with my kids. fuck this team
Cardinals with a give up  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
run on 3rd and 11. Of course no Giant can touch the RB before he gets the 1st down. Shurmur and Bettcher have to go.
RE: Lets see the excuses  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14635826 ryanmkeane said:
Quote:
Shurmur uses for this loss.


he will have a million of them. He's lost his entire career.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
LB
OT
LB
WR

thats the first four rounds of draft lol
RE: This team just dick-punches you week in and week out  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
In comment 14635824 j_rud said:
Quote:
After several years of this Im beginning to wonder why i keep wasting my Sundays looking forward to this garbage.



Yea we must be masochists because I get excited every week just to just get kicked in the balls
When was Edmonds drafted...  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
#3 right after Barkley?
Did they have too much time off  
USAF NYG Fan : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
Evans can't catch the ball. The OL can't pass or run block. The defense has regressed. This is painful.
RE: Some day the Giants will think about getting a real  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
In comment 14635823 Jimmy Googs said:
Quote:
middle LB...


We had one with some promise in Connelly, but then he had a career altering injury.
Great job by Gettleman  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
Only gave up two draft picks to get that great middle linebacker, Alex Ogletree. Great run stuffer. That Gettleman is shrewd.
2019 defense......  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
For sure the slowest team speed in the country, and that includes all women jv touch football leagues. The entire coaching, scouting, training staffs must go, cause all they produce is this shit show.
If it turns out they rushed  
Metnut : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
Saquon back then heads need to roll
RE: Jones  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
In comment 14635806 AcidTest said:
Quote:
is holding the ball for forever because our receivers can't get any separation. That's also why he's throwing into absurdly tight windows almost every time. It's up to the coaches to design some plays to at least mitigate that problem.


Agree Shurmur is a loser and he does not inspire
winning . His play calling just totally lacks imagination .
Betcher has been schooled as well .
I'm going for a walk.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
I'm done with the Giants today. Trash team for 7 years pretty much.
RE: Some fo you guys can kill jones  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14635803 Giantfan21 said:
Quote:
But the kid is being put in such a terrible position to succeed with this dufus coach, garbage OL with pressure on almost every throw, no weapons outside of tate, no running game...he is not going to be a miracle worker especially in his 5th game


Its not killing Jones to point out that his pocket awareness and turnovers are a huge hurdle for an already generally overmatched roster to overcome. 14 points off short fields resulting from Jones turnovers. Its killing them.
Shurmer is GOD AWEFUL  
Chris L. : 10/20/2019 3:26 pm : link
needs to go as soon as this season is over.
This coaching staff gets consistently outschemed, they all need to  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 3:26 pm : link
go. Special teams coach can stay.
RE: Jones  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14635806 AcidTest said:
Quote:
is holding the ball for forever because our receivers can't get any separation. That's also why he's throwing into absurdly tight windows almost every time. It's up to the coaches to design some plays to at least mitigate that problem.


Offensive scheme is awful. No one is ever open
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:26 pm : link
you guys are blaming gettleman is getting old. player play. coaches coach. connelly was a HUGE loss but we need more Lbers. dave will get it
Good thing  
PaulN : 10/20/2019 3:27 pm : link
Shurmur told the team he didn't want to talk about playoff position, he got that one 100% correct. We don't stop the run, we don't stop the pass, we don't rin.the ball, we don't pass the ball, we block punts, we miss easy field goals once again, his second poor season out of three, we have a horrendous punter, we have good coverage teams. We have horrible coaching and questionable GM. When we lost Coughlin we lost the only person with good football knowledge.
great pursuit by Peppers.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 3:27 pm : link
.
I have faith  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 3:27 pm : link
but beginning to feel a little like this guy
RE: Pathetic game all around  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14635835 Blue Ninja said:
Quote:
Only player with a good game is Tate so far.

I said he has a bit of Steve Smith in him, only player with grit.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:28 pm : link
okay TD drive here
serious quesrion  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 3:28 pm : link
look at the defensive roster

can you really fire bettcher for the guys hes stuck with???


this is on dave gettleman.
Coaching  
Sammo85 : 10/20/2019 3:28 pm : link
is a huge problem with this team. It needs to be addressed.
Not  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:28 pm : link
sure why the Cardinals ran three times on that series.
RE: RE: Jones  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14635853 Rflairr said:
Quote:
In comment 14635806 AcidTest said:


Quote:


is holding the ball for forever because our receivers can't get any separation. That's also why he's throwing into absurdly tight windows almost every time. It's up to the coaches to design some plays to at least mitigate that problem.



Offensive scheme is awful. No one is ever open


This, no one is open. Hes always going to have to throw into tight windows
RE: Did they have too much time off  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14635843 USAF NYG Fan said:
Quote:
Evans can't catch the ball. The OL can't pass or run block. The defense has regressed. This is painful.
Engram has stone hands.
Michael Thomas  
LIbud : 10/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
is having a nice day. Had to throw in a positive comment.
That  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
looked like a horse collar tackle.
Can see cards aren't worried, despite conditions,  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
Running on 3rd and long last 2 times about this hapless giants team now
RE: RE: Some fo you guys can kill jones  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14635850 j_rud said:
Quote:
In comment 14635803 Giantfan21 said:


Quote:


But the kid is being put in such a terrible position to succeed with this dufus coach, garbage OL with pressure on almost every throw, no weapons outside of tate, no running game...he is not going to be a miracle worker especially in his 5th game



Its not killing Jones to point out that his pocket awareness and turnovers are a huge hurdle for an already generally overmatched roster to overcome. 14 points off short fields resulting from Jones turnovers. Its killing them.

But we hot him a Wco weenie HC to throw to open receivers for a the magic 70% completion goal.
RE: Not  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14635862 AcidTest said:
Quote:
sure why the Cardinals ran three times on that series.


Because they're sitting pretty up 10. They are now eating clock because we haven't shown that we can make them pay for doing it.
RE: Not  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14635862 AcidTest said:
Quote:
sure why the Cardinals ran three times on that series.


The Giants offense has 7 points and no big play ability right now.
We've probably  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
Dropped over 100 yards in passes today.
RE: RE: Some fo you guys can kill jones  
Toth029 : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14635850 j_rud said:
Quote:
In comment 14635803 Giantfan21 said:


Quote:


But the kid is being put in such a terrible position to succeed with this dufus coach, garbage OL with pressure on almost every throw, no weapons outside of tate, no running game...he is not going to be a miracle worker especially in his 5th game



Its not killing Jones to point out that his pocket awareness and turnovers are a huge hurdle for an already generally overmatched roster to overcome. 14 points off short fields resulting from Jones turnovers. Its killing them.


He's a rookie. He can't do it it all. He needs to play perfect in order for them to win. That's how it works.

Drops? Easy throws, they're dropped.
Holding penalties? Constant.
Defense losing contain? It has happened a ton.

They last turnover was placed at the 50. That's no excuse to get gashed so bad on the ground. How many sacks do they have? How many TFL?
This team just looks like a 4-12 team  
Bramton1 : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
They'll beat the Redskins and the Dolphins, and lose to everyone else.
RE: ...  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14635840 BleedBlue said:
Quote:
LB
OT
LB
WR

thats the first four rounds of draft lol


Good to see you suck as much on these threads as Yankee ones.

It's one thing if you want to point out needs but to say where they need to go each round is asinine. You can't force picks for need and if you do you're screwed.
RE: Can see cards aren't worried, despite conditions,  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14635867 micky said:
Quote:
Running on 3rd and long last 2 times about this hapless giants team now



yea no. they didnt want their rookie making a mistake...they werent just running because giants suck and they dnt need to worry
Its raining. After 2 TDs by #29  
Rjanyg : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
You need to figure out their game plan. This shitshow is in the coaches.

3 & 11, 1 DL in the field. Give up 12. Personnel was stupid
RE: Shurmer is GOD AWEFUL  
Darth Paul : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14635851 Chris L. said:
Quote:
needs to go as soon as this season is over.


Lol
Horrible Organization  
PaulN : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
Jones is very indecisive that is why he is holding the ball forever, he has no confidence,people are going to have a ball with us passing on Darnold for this guy. Barkley is.making a huge difference for us isn't he.
All isn't well, but it's not a disaster either.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
The Giants are showing signs of improvement on both offense and defense, but are prone to crucial mistakes. Maybe they can pull the game out in the fourth quarter. That would tell us a lot.
RE: RE: Not  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14635869 Britt in VA said:
Quote:
In comment 14635862 AcidTest said:


Quote:


sure why the Cardinals ran three times on that series.



Because they're sitting pretty up 10. They are now eating clock because we haven't shown that we can make them pay for doing it.


Seems a bit early to do so.
RE: Coaching  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14635861 Sammo85 said:
Quote:
is a huge problem with this team. It needs to be addressed.


Procedure penalties, questionable playcalling and in-game decisions, regularly appear to be oit-maneuvered by opposing coaching staffs, undisciplined with dumb penalties every week...
We need 7 points here  
90.Cal : 10/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
.
Giants need to make Arizona pay  
90.Cal : 10/20/2019 3:31 pm : link
For playing so safely.
RE: RE: ...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14635874 Eman11 said:
Quote:
In comment 14635840 BleedBlue said:


Quote:


LB
OT
LB
WR

thats the first four rounds of draft lol



Good to see you suck as much on these threads as Yankee ones.

It's one thing if you want to point out needs but to say where they need to go each round is asinine. You can't force picks for need and if you do you're screwed.


bro relax...nobody said in order and i was messing around because its our two biggest issues today. chill out eman.
RE: This coaching staff gets consistently outschemed, they all need to  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14635852 Zeke's Alibi said:
Quote:
go. Special teams coach can stay.


100% spot on and completely agree with you
Jones must have gotten used to not playing with Barkley  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:31 pm : link
Bc he doesnt look for him *at all*
RE: RE: RE: Not  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14635880 AcidTest said:
Quote:
In comment 14635869 Britt in VA said:


Quote:


In comment 14635862 AcidTest said:


Quote:


sure why the Cardinals ran three times on that series.



Because they're sitting pretty up 10. They are now eating clock because we haven't shown that we can make them pay for doing it.



Seems a bit early to do so.


Why? We haven't done shit.
The pocket is constantly collapsing on Jones  
NY-Fan : 10/20/2019 3:32 pm : link
He barely has room to operate in the pocket. I want pass rushers and a top WR but tackles are the top priority for this team.
Jones needs to stop patting the ball....  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 3:33 pm : link
and let it rip.
Nice job by Jones finding the hot read  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:33 pm : link
...
Textbook read by DJ8  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:33 pm : link
Slot or TE usually wide open on blitz.
I keep  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 3:33 pm : link
waiting for the inevitable fuck up by the offense.
RE: I keep  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:34 pm : link
In comment 14635892 Photoguy said:
Quote:
waiting for the inevitable fuck up by the offense.


OL collapse. strip sack
Jones with an adventurous play there  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
...
SAQUON TD  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
A terrific drive there
Nice drive  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
.
That was a fungible TD  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
-bbi
giants  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
stink but that was a GREAT drive. OL played well. DJ with sharp reads
Impressive drive  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 3:36 pm : link
Thats my quarterback
There ya go SB  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:36 pm : link
Finally got some blocking ..
Good blocking  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 3:36 pm : link
On that TD
Color me  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 3:36 pm : link
shocked. They actually didn't screw up. Win, Win!
Did a good job to get 21  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:36 pm : link
.
In da  
charlito : 10/20/2019 3:36 pm : link
Face!!!!
Nice  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
drive. Now we need a stop.
Now defense collapses lol  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
We'll see
Saquon with  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
20 touches. Hopefully more down the stretch.
That FG is going to cost us the game.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
.
Alright  
GiantsUA : 10/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
Let's hold them defense
RE: The pocket is constantly collapsing on Jones  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14635888 NY-Fan said:
Quote:
He barely has room to operate in the pocket. I want pass rushers and a top WR but tackles are the top priority for this team.


Agreed.
That was a great TD drive by jones  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
Excellent job both running and throwing
RE: Jones with an adventurous play there  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14635894 dpinzow said:
Quote:
...


Was in the pocket long enough to make a sandwich and call his mom. Kid is starting to make me nervous. I guess its a sign of steely nerves but he does nothing thst indicates he knows tjat lightening fast 280lb men are trying to kill him.
Should be tied  
gmoney11 : 10/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
Should be all tied up
Missed FG  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 3:38 pm : link
hurts, obviously.
Anyone have confidence?  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
That our defense will hold them?
Hey Brett  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
I know what my favorite Lambeau Moment is...but you probably aint gonna like it...
RE: Anyone have confidence?  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14635915 Marty866b said:
Quote:
That our defense will hold them?


🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
rosas miss is looming large, but D up here. we can win this
Just Down By 3  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
Stop AZ here and this game is ours!
Can this pathetic shit defense get off the field ?  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
probably not
the anxiety in giants fans with the d coming out on this field will be  
plato : 10/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
palpable and with good reason.
Nice  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
play by Haley.
A missed 37 yard FG from being a tie game...  
90.Cal : 10/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
That sucks but that there was easily the best drive of the game from either rookie QB. Keeping fighting! Go Giants! Defense! Perfect time for our first takeaway! Jack Rabbit! Peppers! Step up and answer the bell!
Haley is poor in pass defense but he made a nice play on Kyler  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:40 pm : link
who was about to break out
Now  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:40 pm : link
Haley is hurt.
RE: That FG is going to cost us the game.  
christian : 10/20/2019 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14635908 Britt in VA said:
Quote:
.


Either the field goal or the complete inability to play a shred of defense.
Haley Held  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:41 pm : link
No Call makes shoe string tackle.
We cant even get any home town calls
This fanbase is sorry....looks like half them left  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 3:41 pm : link
:
3rd down  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:41 pm : link
.......
howc cant giants stop edmunds  
plato : 10/20/2019 3:41 pm : link
.
Cant get off the field down on 3rd down  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:41 pm : link
what a surprise
RE: Anyone have confidence?  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14635915 Marty866b said:
Quote:
That our defense will hold them?


Expect an 8 minute TD drive.
You  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:41 pm : link
knew that was coming. Some kind of underneath crossing route. And Murray had plenty of time to throw it.
Everything is so passive in the secondary  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:42 pm : link
.
Cards  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:42 pm : link
"We love 3rd downs!!!"
RE: You  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14635933 AcidTest said:
Quote:
knew that was coming. Some kind of underneath crossing route. And Murray had plenty of time to throw it.


I'm surprised teams don't just throw every play against this defense.
RE: Anyone have confidence?  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14635915 Marty866b said:
Quote:
That our defense will hold them?

Aha ha! Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14635884 BleedBlue said:
Quote:
In comment 14635874 Eman11 said:


Quote:


In comment 14635840 BleedBlue said:


Quote:


LB
OT
LB
WR

thats the first four rounds of draft lol



Good to see you suck as much on these threads as Yankee ones.

It's one thing if you want to point out needs but to say where they need to go each round is asinine. You can't force picks for need and if you do you're screwed.



bro relax...nobody said in order and i was messing around because its our two biggest issues today. chill out eman.


Well I already know your reading comp sucks but try and learn how to actually say what you mean. You friggin listed them in order, which said that's what you thought they had to do.
TURN  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 3:43 pm : link
IT OVER!!!!!!!!!
3rd down  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:44 pm : link
........
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:44 pm : link
this is game right here
Nobody on this defense can make a big play.  
Reese's Pieces : 10/20/2019 3:44 pm : link
.
Can  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:44 pm : link
we get off the field on third and 14?
this next play by our defense is the game. we have to hold here, but i  
plato : 10/20/2019 3:44 pm : link
not confident
RE: Can  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:45 pm : link
In comment 14635943 AcidTest said:
Quote:
we get off the field on third and 14?


<shakes 8 ball> Outlook not so good </>
Just  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:45 pm : link
barely.
Big stop  
gmoney11 : 10/20/2019 3:45 pm : link
Need at least 3
Why take the TO right there?  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
?
How are we down to 1  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
TO???
Fake?  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
.
Bad  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
punt. OK Danny Dimes, show us what you've got kid.
Suck ass punt  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
Need every break we can get.
RE: Why take the TO right there?  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14635948 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
?


Second that
RE: This fanbase is sorry....looks like half them left  
joe48 : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14635928 Zeke's Alibi said:
Quote:
:
So are some of the posters.
Why do I sense  
yankeeslover : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
27-24 Cards win?
Finally  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
a stop
Bethea 9 Tackles
Haley 8 tackles
Ogletree 8 tackles .
Baker Has been solid as well .
RE: How are we down to 1  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14635949 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
TO???


fox messed up they have been messing up with down and yardage all game

they gave us our 2nd TO back and took one away form cards
time for Shurmur to flex  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 3:47 pm : link
his awesome clock management skills.
Alright here we go  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:47 pm : link
only 1 timeout left so this is their last possession. Plenty of time on the clock . Go for the TD. Dont leabe it up to rosas
RE: That FG is going to cost us the game.  
BigBlueFan04 : 10/20/2019 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14635908 Britt in VA said:
Quote:
.



Come on bro!!! Be positive!!
I love the defensive playcalls all day  
Blue Ninja : 10/20/2019 3:47 pm : link
bad execution, but good calls.

I don't like the timeout here.
Another time management  
nygfaninorlando : 10/20/2019 3:47 pm : link
blunder by Shurmur. Why take a TO with over 4 minutes left and only down 3 points. You may need that TO if you cant get a first down on this drive.
RE: Why do I sense  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14635955 yankeeslover said:
Quote:
27-24 Cards win?


Trauma from the Walk off by Altuve
Giants are going to win this thing  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 3:48 pm : link
Cardinal HC way too conservative on the road. He's let the Giants crawl back into a position to win.
Why is Shurmer fascinated with calling TOs  
Matt M. : 10/20/2019 3:48 pm : link
with this much time left?
RE: RE: Why do I sense  
yankeeslover : 10/20/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14635963 Bluesbreaker said:
Quote:
In comment 14635955 yankeeslover said:


Quote:


27-24 Cards win?



Trauma from the Walk off by Altuve


I knew it was something!!
RE: RE: This fanbase is sorry....looks like half them left  
Darth Paul : 10/20/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14635954 joe48 said:
Quote:
In comment 14635928 Zeke's Alibi said:


Quote:


:

So are some of the posters.


Agree pretty pathetic to leave before the game's over.
if  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 3:49 pm : link
how do we not draft

ot1
ot2
wr1
edge1
edge2


in the next draft with our first round pick????
RE: Finally  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14635956 Bluesbreaker said:
Quote:
a stop
Bethea 9 Tackles
Haley 8 tackles
Ogletree 8 tackles .
Baker Has been solid as well .
Really? The Cardinals have gone with an ultra conservative gameplan and haven't challenged this defense at all. Play this way against the Lions, they will put up 50
Wtf?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:49 pm : link
Ol
What was Barkley looking at?  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 3:50 pm : link
.
Great job by remmers fucking  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:50 pm : link
clown
Chandler  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:50 pm : link
Jones has killed us all day, BUT IT MIGHT HELP IF SOMEONE AT LEAST BLOCKED HIM.
who is blocking  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 3:50 pm : link
Chandler Jones?
this possession will determine i giants season and answer lots of  
plato : 10/20/2019 3:50 pm : link
questions s going forwards.
Boom  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:50 pm : link
.
This offensive  
MookGiants : 10/20/2019 3:50 pm : link
line is really bad.
Dont block Jones?  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 3:50 pm : link
Is that the strategy.
this possession will determine i giants season and answer lots of  
plato : 10/20/2019 3:50 pm : link
questions s going forwards.
What kind of bullshit play call is that ?  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
Shurmur is a fucking pussy
Lmao  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
.
TRICK  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
PLAY
God Shurmur is awful  
Sean : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
.
What the fuck is that play call  
Mike in NY : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
.
Jesus why makes no sense  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
Shurmur is really a bad coach
Why  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
run on third down?
nice call  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
Dick wad
Game over.  
short lease : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
.
Shurmur  
Sammo85 : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
really has no clue.
Just embarrassing.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
I hate this team.
Shurmur isn't an NFL level head coach  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
he isn't even a D1 level head coach at least in a Power 5 conference
Shurmer draw on 3-18  
Jerz44 : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
Is coaching malpractice.
The offensive line and shurmur  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
are hot trash
RE: this possession will determine i giants season and answer lots of  
PatersonPlank : 10/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14635979 plato said:
Quote:
questions s going forwards.


and what is your conclusion?
l....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
i dont mind going for it, but you gotta pass twice. the OL and pass pro is bad
Fire Shurmur  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Hell never be a playoff coach
is shurmur serious  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
u have 2 minute warning and 2 timeouts....is he trying to get fired????
This OL  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Is complete horseshit

Omg Shurmur get fired tomorrow  
viggie : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Dont block jones , that run and i just cant anymore l.
2-5..  
Sean : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Yet there will be the typical posters who continue to be pie in the sky and blame the refs for this loss.
Pat Shurmur should be fired  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
tomorrow.
JESUS  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
F'ING Christ
RE: What the fuck is that play call  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
In comment 14635984 Mike in NY said:
Quote:
.


Get him outta there. Also Tate use your hands, so many body catchers
...  
christian : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Shurmured
Jones  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
is annihilated. Peterson had to come from a different zip code, and still got him. Not surprising on fourth and 15, but it's still depressing.
Fire the worst head coach in the league  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Now.
That draw play tho...  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Fire this bum. For fucks sake this is embarrassing...
Running the ball  
Blue Ninja : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
keeps the clock running.
Shurmur all wet  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
.
Fire Shurmur  
WillVAB : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Fucking loser
Guess Taney wasn't too good  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
In the room this week.
Lmfao!!!  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Holy losers
What an awful series  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
...

Two completely unblocked pass rushers
Please  
gmoney11 : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
FIRE SHURMER
Rough series pass blocking for  
St. Jimmy : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Saquon there
Barkley decided not to block  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
On 2 separate downs
Pat Shurmur is a dipshit.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
Fire him, or I give up on this franchise until they do.
How much more does shurmur need to show that he is a dipshit  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
im so sick of his playcalling
Shurmur should be sacked for that series  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
Jones has a real problem.

Barkley has been atrocious in pass protection
Shurmur  
MookGiants : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
is the definition of a loser. 3rd and 18 and he calls a draw.

Anyone who wants this clown to return next year needs their head examined. How much more does this guy have to lose to realize he is not a head coach?
What was the thinking there?  
rocco8112 : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
This guy is lost and to lose this game like this, getting whipped, is a sad indictment of this team.
Shurmur or whoever just cost us the chance to win this game  
Geomon : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
Fuck him, fuck these coaches
time to fire the coach  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
he's losing games for us.
Once Again Evidence  
Jeffrey : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
why DGs coach has a career losing record..
I'm officially on the fire Shurmur train.  
Britt in VA : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
.
RE: Barkley decided not to block  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14636017 Thunderstruck27 said:
Quote:
On 2 separate downs


barkleys job isn't to block a DE...remmers just let him go
Shurmur is ass.  
Motley Two : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
What a fucking hack.
RE: Barkley decided not to block  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14636017 Thunderstruck27 said:
Quote:
On 2 separate downs


Agreed.
Mind  
Bill in Del : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
Boggling
Running on 3rd and 18????  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
They're going  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
to consider getting rid of the coach after this one..
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
i would have passed twice. i agree going for it as game isnt oer if you get stopped
Gettlemans first press conference  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
He said he had to fix the OL

Were waiting....
Shurmur=Complete dumbass  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
.
Have to get another coach in here to work with Jones.  
jogo1 : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
This just isn't going to work.
Season  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
Over. Shurmur must go. Another year of depression.
3rd and 20 draw  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
4th and 15 go for it LOL

Fuck this coach
Every head coach in the current Top 25 in Division 1  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
is better than Shurmur
Olsen is lol confused on broadcast of calling these plays  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
.
Shurmur has no clue  
NY-Fan : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
He has terrible feel for the game and game management is just awful.
Shumur  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
Is a whiny bitch .
I hope thy fire him can't even stand
the pathetic way he carries himself
Instead of going for it on 4th and 15,  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
How about punting it and using your two timeouts?
Head Coach  
Sammo85 : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
is a major problem for this team. You cant hide it or hide from it anymore.

So PS doesn't go for it last week and now does  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
Fucking fire this guy.
Shurmur is clueless  
odunde : 10/20/2019 3:53 pm : link
.
Sigh......  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
.
.  
Banks : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
Holy crap, I couldn't believe that
.  
GiantEgo : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
Jones is a football vending machine at this point. He lost this game with his turnovers. It's not everyone else's fault.
You know it's a horrible play call  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
When the analyst says its "interesting". Lol
It has to be said ...  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
... the offensive line is horrible. And we have better players - we think - than we had with the Flowers/Hart offensive line.

Something is wrong with our scouting.
RE: Shurmur should be sacked for that series  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14636021 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
Jones has a real problem.

Barkley has been atrocious in pass protection


That was not on Jones, it was fourth and fifteen, he had to let the play develop. PP came like a missle
JFC`  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
down by three, you've got two timeouts left, and the Cardinals aren't going to throw. Punt the fricking ball
RE: Shurmur  
Bramton1 : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14636022 MookGiants said:
Quote:
is the definition of a loser. 3rd and 18 and he calls a draw.

Anyone who wants this clown to return next year needs their head examined. How much more does this guy have to lose to realize he is not a head coach?


And then goes for it on 4th down!
Punting last week down 14  
KDubbs : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
And now 3rd and 20 draw. This guy is a loser coach. John Mara needs to get his fucking head out of his nerdy ass
Shurmur lol  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
Holy hell dumb
I can no longer defend Shurmur  
Rick in Dallas : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
What a dumbass call.
Ben McAdoo  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
is light years ahead of this coach.
Jones  
PaulN : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
No feel at all, horrible, and there is no way he improves with this jackass of a head coach. The team is making no progress at all. They are getting worse every year.
i am now in fire his ass group after schurmers terrible play calling  
plato : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
and decision making. Jones cant win a game with three turnovers.
RE: Pat Shurmur should be fired  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14636001 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
tomorrow.


You mean tonight right?
RE: Shurmur  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14636022 MookGiants said:
Quote:
is the definition of a loser. 3rd and 18 and he calls a draw.

Anyone who wants this clown to return next year needs their head examined. How much more does this guy have to lose to realize he is not a head coach?


Remember, they're rebuilding. Anyone who expects wins in the first five to ten years is unreasonable.
RE: Shurmur  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14636022 MookGiants said:
Quote:
is the definition of a loser. 3rd and 18 and he calls a draw.

Anyone who wants this clown to return next year needs their head examined. How much more does this guy have to lose to realize he is not a head coach?



Agreed Im done with him. Were not winning with this guy he spent know what hes doing
First time in saying it  
Mellowmood92 : 10/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
Shurmur should be fired. He coached to lose today
RE: I'm officially on the fire Shurmur train.  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
In comment 14636028 Britt in VA said:
Quote:
.


Yeah, enough. Let him finish out the season and then look for someone new.
Just hate the play calling on that final  
cosmicj : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
Giants drive. Virtually every decision was wrong.
I simply  
dlauster : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
Have no outrage left.
Whoa...Shurmur is not going to have a good week  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
fielding his decision making there.

Barkely not blocking isn't helpful either...
Im probably off base but  
morrison40 : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
Shurmur just seems way too comfortable losing, its all he knows . Im really frustrated with the effort,
Years from now...  
Gary JC : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
...that 3rd and 20 will be known as the play that got Shurmur fired. It'll be up there with the 3rd and 18 play, the fumble, the catch and every milestone play in Giant's history.
RE: RE: Shurmur should be sacked for that series  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
In comment 14636056 Nine-Tails said:
Quote:
In comment 14636021 bigbluescot said:


Quote:


Jones has a real problem.

Barkley has been atrocious in pass protection



That was not on Jones, it was fourth and fifteen, he had to let the play develop. PP came like a missle


He coughs up the ball nearly every time he gets hit in the pocket.
Shurmur reaches a new low in his game management  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
Starting with the timeout at 4:38, Shurmur put the Giants in a deeper hole.

But hey, he should get 2020...
Plenty of time left on the  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
Clock , 1st down just made ... and then you let a guy come in untouched
And clean your QBs clock!!!!

Tough to defend  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
That 3rd down play call. Very head scratching.
i actually like that call  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
3rd 20

gain some positive yards to make a

4th and 15

pass manageable with a normal pass playcall
Shurmur is such a bad coach its unbelievable.  
PhiPsi125 : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
Hes a big reason why this team is so bad. I always laugh when fans complain that we bitch about the coaching too much and that its the players. Well...its both. But Shurmur is really bad. And he just sealed the L for this game with that moronic play calling.
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:55 pm : link
need a stop to have a shot
Bleedblue  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
Remember what I said about the cardinals defense having two top players. Well theyre the difference right now
Shurmur  
MookGiants : 10/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
should have let the clock go to the 2 minute warning. Gives the Cards greater risk if they want to throw it. Now it only risks 15 seconds
RE: I simply  
Johnny5 : 10/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14636071 dlauster said:
Quote:
Have no outrage left.

Don't worry. I have enough for fucking all of us.
RE: Tough to defend  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14636078 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
Quote:
That 3rd down play call. Very head scratching.



its not.


his plan is to take a guaranteed gain on third down


because hes already predetermined to go for it on 4th
RE: i actually like that call  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14636079 huygens20 said:
Quote:
3rd 20

gain some positive yards to make a

4th and 15

pass manageable with a normal pass playcall


i dont mind going for a few yards, but i would have run a clear out
When it gets late in the 4th quarter  
Motley Two : 10/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
Shurmur likes to insert full blown aids into the offense.
I love Greg Olsen lol  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
.
Kyler went out of bounds!  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
He gave us a few extra seconds
Barkley should have not played today. No burst.  
joe48 : 10/20/2019 3:56 pm : link
He needs to fully recover.
...  
christian : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
Well Shurmur and Murray displaying equal football IQ.
This is also on Gettleman  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
Where are the data analysts in the booth helping with game management?

Oh that's right, analytics are stupid.
Thank you  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
Murray.
and Murray goes out of bounds!  
markky : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
this will be known as the play that saves Shurmur's job, he goes on to win 5 superbowls.
Shurmur needs to give up playcalling  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
Or be fired.
RE: Instead of going for it on 4th and 15,  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14636046 cosmicj said:
Quote:
How about punting it and using your two timeouts?


Exceptionally bad when you consider the draw play on 3rd and 18 that yielded 3 yards.
Shurmurs play calling  
JerryNicklebag : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
Just mores you scratch your heads sometimes.

Perhaps its time to hire a coordinator who can use these weapons properly.
RE: Kyler went out of bounds!  
Joey from GlenCove : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14636090 dpinzow said:
Quote:
He gave us a few extra seconds


40
2 brutal teams  
jmalls23 : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
they both stink
Its on to detroit......  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
Where rain cannot be an excuse.
And there's  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
Murray's rookie mistake..lol
And murray makes shurmur smarter  
micky : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
Lol
13 secs is nice  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
The HB draw time would be nice too.
HA HA HA!!  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
AWESOME LOL
RE: RE: i actually like that call  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14636086 BleedBlue said:
Quote:
In comment 14636079 huygens20 said:


Quote:


3rd 20

gain some positive yards to make a

4th and 15

pass manageable with a normal pass playcall



i dont mind going for a few yards, but i would have run a clear out


a clearout vs this passrush?

you saw what happened

waiting for a play to develop for a 15 yard gain vs 20 gain is actually a big deal
.  
Banks : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
the way this game has gone, I have little hope outside of a big return
Feeling like a big return  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:57 pm : link
AZ is gonna squib/pooch it to run clock but i think its gonna backfire...
The Oline stinks  
mrvax : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
The few times the Oline blocked well, DJ made some good throws.
Man  
JesseS : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
these are two bad teams.

This OL though...
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
hey either way, these are critical snaps for jones....its good exposure
Cards are a better team than Giants  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
and they were worst team in the league last year.

Frustrating to say the least
RE: RE: RE: Shurmur should be sacked for that series  
PhiPsi125 : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14636075 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
In comment 14636056 Nine-Tails said:


Quote:


In comment 14636021 bigbluescot said:


Quote:


Jones has a real problem.

Barkley has been atrocious in pass protection



That was not on Jones, it was fourth and fifteen, he had to let the play develop. PP came like a missle



He coughs up the ball nearly every time he gets hit in the pocket.


Um, yeah...thats gonna happen when the defense gets a free pass to drill the QB who doesnt see him.
Wow  
Jerz44 : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
Couldnt have asked for that to go any better once the fumble happened.

Also F Olsen openly rooting for the cards.
Amazingly  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
We could still winthis
If a giant returner attempts to take this ball out of the EZ  
xman : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
he is too stupid to be in this league
yet  
Danny L : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
some ppl here thought its a win vs the cards...
they suck but so do we and we cannot turn the ball over 3 times and expect to win. we not that good.

Still plenty time left to sneak a W...
If Giants get in FG range but do not score a TD  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
Shurmur is going to get hell this week.
STAY IN THE  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
FUCKING ENDZONE.
RE: Feeling like a big return  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14636108 j_rud said:
Quote:
AZ is gonna squib/pooch it to run clock but i think its gonna backfire...


Or not...
RE: i actually like that call  
Motley Two : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14636079 huygens20 said:
Quote:
3rd 20

gain some positive yards to make a

4th and 15

pass manageable with a normal pass playcall


4th down isn't normal.
15 yards isn't normal.
So what's this magical normal playcall you're referring to?
RE: 2 brutal teams  
joe48 : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14636100 jmalls23 said:
Quote:
they both stink
Correct
Calling the OL  
Jeffrey : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
Improved is relative and proof of just how horrible this line was last year.
...  
christian : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
What a dreadful decision by Slayton.
Our fans are pathetic this place is empty in one score game  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
.
I Agree Shurmur Must Go  
Trainmaster : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
He looks clueless
RE: RE: RE: Shurmur should be sacked for that series  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14636075 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
In comment 14636056 Nine-Tails said:


Quote:


In comment 14636021 bigbluescot said:


Quote:


Jones has a real problem.

Barkley has been atrocious in pass protection



That was not on Jones, it was fourth and fifteen, he had to let the play develop. PP came like a missle



He coughs up the ball nearly every time he gets hit in the pocket.


It was a blindside hit and does the fumble really matter. It was fourth down, the cardinals wouldve got the ball there anyway.
Brady fumbled on a similar hit last week
well now we know  
xman : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
slaton is ....
DUMB  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
Wtf is slayton doing?
We'll  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 3:58 pm : link
run 3 plays up the middle
.  
Banks : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
great start. here comes the int
As an aside, Dalton has single handedly thrown the game away for the  
PatersonPlank : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
Bengals. Talk about a QB who should be benched, wow.
We do all the little thing wrong  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
Which is coaching
Incredibly stupid play.  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
Coach doesn't tell him to take the touchback?
RE: STAY IN THE  
markky : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14636119 BleedBlue said:
Quote:
FUCKING ENDZONE.


we've been doing this for the last 4 years or so. mind boggling.
Giants media  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
ought not even bother with interviews after this mess.
Great job  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
Darius. Terrific.
RE: 2 brutal teams  
joe48 : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14636100 jmalls23 said:
Quote:
they both stink
Correct
RE: RE: i actually like that call  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14636121 Motley Two said:
Quote:
In comment 14636079 huygens20 said:


Quote:


3rd 20

gain some positive yards to make a

4th and 15

pass manageable with a normal pass playcall



4th down isn't normal.
15 yards isn't normal.
So what's this magical normal playcall you're referring to?


youre not thinking.


on 3rd and 20

he decided that he was going to go for it if they gained yards on the draw.
....  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
we have to move the pocket...the OL is getting shit pushed in
RE: DUMB  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14636129 Dave in PA said:
Quote:
Wtf is slayton doing?


shows how well the team is coached
This team is terribly coached.  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
.
RE: Incredibly stupid play.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14636134 bceagle05 said:
Quote:
Coach doesn't tell him to take the touchback?


The coaching on this team is just horrific.
I  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
don't blame Slayton for bringing it out. He's the only one with speed. It's a risk worth taking with only two minutes left, no time outs, and needing a TD.
Awful coaching  
Metnut : 10/20/2019 3:59 pm : link
How the hell do you not take the touchback there
That Slayton run is on Shurmer.  
Jerz44 : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
Bad coaching. You tell him to let it go. Start on the 25 w 2:09
We dont have a lot of  
gmoney11 : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
scholars on this team..Just dumb
RE: 2 brutal teams  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14636100 jmalls23 said:
Quote:
they both stink
Yeah, Murray does the Giants a favor by running out of bounds and Kingsbury has been in a coma most of the second half. Only the Power of Shurmur has kept the Cards in the lead.
RE: This is also on Gettleman  
Default : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14636093 Go Terps said:
Quote:
Where are the data analysts in the booth helping with game management?

Oh that's right, analytics are stupid.


And so is this putrid offensive line, which was supposed to be his specialty.
This team is worse with him and Shurmur than it was under Reese and McAdoo.

Pretty incredible feat.
RE: RE: RE: i actually like that call  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14636139 huygens20 said:
Quote:
In comment 14636121 Motley Two said:


Quote:


In comment 14636079 huygens20 said:


Quote:


3rd 20

gain some positive yards to make a

4th and 15

pass manageable with a normal pass playcall



4th down isn't normal.
15 yards isn't normal.
So what's this magical normal playcall you're referring to?



youre not thinking.


on 3rd and 20

he decided that he was going to go for it if they gained yards on the draw.



if DJ drops back to pass on 3rd and 20 and gets sacked or incompletion

=

drive over
RE: We do all the little thing wrong  
markky : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14636133 bubba0825 said:
Quote:
Which is coaching


that's right. teaching is part of coaching. i have no faith in our coaches.
Brutal  
micky : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
Brutal org
Are these guys coached at all?  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
Who in their right mind returns that ball?
that really is inexcusable  
xman : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
poor coaching and low iq player
RE: I  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14636144 AcidTest said:
Quote:
don't blame Slayton for bringing it out. He's the only one with speed. It's a risk worth taking with only two minutes left, no time outs, and needing a TD.


Nope.
Shurmur is fucki h  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
Awful
Fucking stupid  
Geomon : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
Slayton
For fucks sake move the pocket already  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
Does Shurmur have downs syndrome? Serious question...
RE: RE: DUMB  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14636141 Steve in ATL said:
Quote:
In comment 14636129 Dave in PA said:


Quote:


Wtf is slayton doing?



shows how well the team is coached



Yea wasted time and yards. Shurmur shouldve told him to stay in the end zone no matter what
Zeke I hear ya  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
But this is a loss against the worst team in the league last year.
Why didn't someone tell Slayton to take a knee  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
.
RE: This is also on Gettleman  
WillVAB : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14636093 Go Terps said:
Quote:
Where are the data analysts in the booth helping with game management?

Oh that's right, analytics are stupid.


This has nothing to do with Gettleman outside of the fact he hired this clown.
RE: Our fans are pathetic this place is empty in one score game  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14636125 Zeke's Alibi said:
Quote:
.


In fairness, it's raining, in the mid 50s, & the product Mara is putting out there isn't too appealing.
Shurmer competing with Ray Handley  
Chris L. : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
for most clueless coach in Giants history
One guarantee schumur can make......  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 4:00 pm : link
Any team he is head coaching will have early draft picks.....forever.
I want a new coach stat  
GiantsUA : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
This guy is a dud, his team does not have discipline, guys do not know assignments
This is a horrendously coached team  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
I know there are a lot in this current NFL (if dont think there is you arent paying attention) but this team stinks and a lot of it is on the coaching staff.
Slayton returning that ball was so moronic  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
But thats on shurmur for not telling him to take the knee
Btw the Cardinals aren't very good  
bigbluescot : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
but they're far, far better than we are. They have a game plan on both sides and stick to it, and while they're not exactly star-studded they've got a couple of difference makers on their defense in Jones and Peterson
Another year  
fivehead : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
Of stinky stinky doodie.
I think Greg Olsen  
JesseS : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
should be our coach....
RE: Are these guys coached at all?  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14636153 jcn56 said:
Quote:
Who in their right mind returns that ball?


Right? Why is there apparently no one on the sideline to simply emphasize that the ball should not leave the end zone no matter what??
Stupid Coach  
PaulN : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
Equals stupid players. Slayton makes them start in a hole. No coaching on what to do,Shurmur got his play selection to worry about. Watch this game winning drive attempt. LOL. Should be comical.
RE: RE: RE: DUMB  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14636159 cokeduplt said:
Quote:
In comment 14636141 Steve in ATL said:


Quote:


In comment 14636129 Dave in PA said:


Quote:


Wtf is slayton doing?



shows how well the team is coached




Yea wasted time and yards. Shurmur shouldve told him to stay in the end zone no matter what

+1,000,000,000
If we can figure this shit out, why can't Shurmur?
Honestly I never looked at it as  
morrison40 : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
1 game out of 1st place, it was always 1 game out of last place, until proven otherwise
RE: One guarantee schumur can make......  
Danny L : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14636165 thrunthrublue said:
Quote:
Any team he is head coaching will have early draft picks.....forever.


Well maybe thats the plan, god knows we need all the high picks we can get.
Coach  
TommyWiseau : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
sucks
RE: I  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14636144 AcidTest said:
Quote:
don't blame Slayton for bringing it out. He's the only one with speed. It's a risk worth taking with only two minutes left, no time outs, and needing a TD.



Hi Pat!
let see if slayton  
xman : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
can redeem
but I know why  
santacruzom : 10/20/2019 4:01 pm : link
because Shurmur was probably occupied by looking through the playbook.
Special teams coach  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
Can go also. Should have instructed Slayton to stay in the endzone. The biggest problem on this team is STILL the offensive line.They are atrocious. Sorry, but not that much better then last year. Jones is hurried just about every pass. This was DG's first priority,right?
So nice of us to let Murray off the hook  
Bramton1 : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
on that Out of Bounds gaffe.

So will we...

a) Run out of time?
b) Turnover on downs?
c) Turnover?

Have little faith in a touchdown.
This is the problem of the Head Coach calling plays  
yalebowl : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
Shumer was probably thinking about what plays to call after the kickoff instead of managing the overall game. Which includes telling the runner to stay in the endzone.
we need to get a coach from a program  
markky : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
that has displayed excellence in coaching, teaching, execution, ...

that's not Shurmur
All they had to say was  
90.Cal : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
"SLAYTON! If the ball reaches the cusp of the goal line... just take the god damn touchback"

Wasted almost 10 seconds to get to the fucking 12 yard line...
RE: Btw the Cardinals aren't very good  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14636169 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
but they're far, far better than we are. They have a game plan on both sides and stick to it, and while they're not exactly star-studded they've got a couple of difference makers on their defense in Jones and Peterson



would be nice if we drafted 1 or 2 difference makers on defense.


Dave Gettleman

"we have to draft impact starters"
It's a league wide problem  
eclipz928 : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
Returners taking the ball out of the end zone. There's no reason not to take the ball on the 25 yard line every time.
3 yards shy of the touchback  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
Abs down 40 seconds
I try to be optimistic.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
But down 6, in the rain, 2 minutes, no timeouts, 88 yard to go... I don't think Daniel Jones is ready for this situation, and I don't think the line is giving him the support he'd need to lead a game-winning drive.

I'd be happy to be wrong about that.
Another  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
fumble by Jones.
Jones is a turnover machine  
Sean : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
Yikes!
fumble  
TommyWiseau : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
fumble fumble
I'm glad Greg Olsen is dumping on his face  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
Gettleman has the stones to pull the plug. This guy does not belong as a HC.
RE: So nice of us to let Murray off the hook  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14636182 Bramton1 said:
Quote:
on that Out of Bounds gaffe.

So will we...

a) Run out of time?
b) Turnover on downs?
c) Turnover?

Have little faith in a touchdown.


Turnover
Who says Solder is useless?  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
.
.  
GiantEgo : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
Let's here the excuses for another Jones fumble!
RE: Our fans are pathetic this place is empty in one score game  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14636125 Zeke's Alibi said:
Quote:
.

The fans don't owe this laughingstock franchise anything.
Jones  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
Needs to hold onto the ball good lord
OL is pure  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
trash.
We need a fucking miracle here  
90.Cal : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
And I dont see how we get it. Jones is not feeling the pressure well at all today.
I try not be be reactive  
Mike in Prescott : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
But I think we have garbage for coaching. And I expect that Mara will hold on too long. We are so fooked. I'm unable to find hope for this team, and I've been watching since '75. Shame.
Clown music should be playing this last 2 mins  
micky : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
Lol
.  
Banks : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
he cannot hold onto to the ball. He is like Kurt Warner at his worst. To be fair, it is wet
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
OL is A JOKE
Just can't get sacked there  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
Throw it away and survive for another down
another trash OLINE built  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
by DG but people like what he has done??? LOL

FOH
RE: Slayton returning that ball was so moronic  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14636168 Giantfan21 said:
Quote:
But thats on shurmur for not telling him to take the knee
its on Slayton for not having a pop Warner level of football IQ
Oh for fucks sake lol  
j_rud : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
Cue the goddamn Benny Hill music
I  
AcidTest : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
wouldn't say the Giants are the Knicks, but it's getting close.
Eight sacks  
fivehead : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
Says something about our O line.
jones  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
is the white Jameis Winston


turnover machine
RE: Just can't get sacked there  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14636205 dpinzow said:
Quote:
Throw it away and survive for another down


oline is a constant joke
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
OL IS EMBARRASSSSSSING
Give  
TommyWiseau : 10/20/2019 4:03 pm : link
the kid some fucking help, leave a tight end to fucking block
Does anyone know how to run the two minute????  
Chris L. : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
You get a first down you spike it! You need the time to stop more than you need the down!!!
RE: .  
GiantEgo : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14636203 Banks said:
Quote:
he cannot hold onto to the ball. He is like Kurt Warner at his worst. To be fair, it is wet


Just stop it. He has a profound issue
8 sacks  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
.
RE: jones  
Steve in ATL : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14636211 huygens20 said:
Quote:
is the white Jameis Winston


turnover machine

8 sacks and counting
What  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
A disaster.
Comical  
Sean : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
.
This offensive line is  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
a fucking shitshow and shurmur is a clown for not trying to move the pocket or add another lineman to help with protection
7 sacks  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
But thank god for dave "hog mollies".
We should just take a knee  
Geomon : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
It'd be less embarrassing
Eli  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
Is the common denominator.
Jones coughing up the ball is a definite problem now.  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
They need to work with him on that this week. Rain or no rain, you hit him and he coughs up the ball. He's been doing this the last few weeks.
Fire Shurmur  
bubba0825 : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
Hes awful.
Dave Brown  
PaulN : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
The second coming, instead of Darnold.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
i change my draft idea.

OL
OL
OL
LB

lmao
Take a knee  
micky : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
Lmfao
Well at least  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
They help him up
This is comedic.  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
I guess.
Horrible OL! Butterfingers Jones  
nicky43 : 10/20/2019 4:04 pm : link
Jones has no pereferral vision in pocket.

This will not be our year
RE: Dave Brown  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14636227 PaulN said:
Quote:
The second coming, instead of Darnold.


DG really gave him a good oline behind a rookie QB another 7 sacks
HOG MOLLIES  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
FOR THE WIN!
Wtf is wrong with  
Jerz44 : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
Fanboy Olsen? Just call the game
Ok......  
Photoguy : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
I give up....we need a change.
Jones has to get rid of the damn ball  
jogo1 : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
.
Losers!  
micky : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
Lol
Gettleman built an OL worse  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
than Reese. Can't protect a mobile QB for shit.
OL should be ashamed  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
.
RE: Btw the Cardinals aren't very good  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14636169 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
but they're far, far better than we are. They have a game plan on both sides and stick to it, and while they're not exactly star-studded they've got a couple of difference makers on their defense in Jones and Peterson


They aren't better than us. This team is awfully coached and its never been more apparent than the last two weeks.
Is this real?  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
Actually happening in real life? That drive is almost impossible to accomplish. Holy shit. This team plays stupid sloppy football. Epic losers. Shurmur can go now
RE: Dave Brown  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14636227 PaulN said:
Quote:
The second coming, instead of Darnold.



Yea its his fault hes under pressure every throw. Go root for the jets
RE: Dave Brown  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14636227 PaulN said:
Quote:
The second coming, instead of Darnold.



paul...youre seriously a jerkoff poster. there was literally NOWHERE for him to go...the OL sucks. this is jones 5th game
RE: HOG MOLLIES  
huygens20 : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14636237 Mr. Bungle said:
Quote:
FOR THE WIN!



LOL
Brutal  
crick n NC : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
.
RE: Oh for fucks sake lol  
Bill in Del : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14636208 j_rud said:
Quote:
Cue the goddamn Benny Hill music


I was thinking keystone cops..but yeah either one.....lol
And Jones is turning out to be  
Mike in Prescott : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
a turnover machine. Damn.
Butterfingers  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
Jones
Might not win another game before the bye.  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
2-7. Not unreasonable to predict 4 wins this year.
Offensive line is a joke  
Mdgiantsfan : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
...what a waste of another season 🤦🏾‍♂️
Wow !!! What horse shit  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
This OL is!!! All game long the kids getting hammered !

Please get us a real Head Coach !!!!

You replaced a legend with 2 friggen losers !!
RE: another trash OLINE built  
Nine-Tails : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14636206 mphbullet36 said:
Quote:
by DG but people like what he has done??? LOL

FOH


Brown Recluse any thoughts? You were pumping DG up the other day.
8 sacks. Getting hit all day long with zero time to throw.  
PhiPsi125 : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
But Im sure well get a ton of shit threads this week about how DJ is a bust.

SMH
Our offensive line was embarrassing  
PetesHereNow : 10/20/2019 4:05 pm : link
In the last two drives.
RE: Eli  
Default : 10/20/2019 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14636224 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
Quote:
Is the common denominator.


Oh shut the fuck up.
They get shutout with Eli starting.
Clean  
thrunthrublue : 10/20/2019 4:06 pm : link
House, from d.g......on down.
RE: 7 sacks  
WillVAB : 10/20/2019 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14636222 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
But thank god for dave "hog mollies".


Yep. So thankful for the drafting of Baker, Ballentine, and Love. The Giants couldve drafted Cody Ford in round 2 without trading up.

Fuck this team
RE: Might not win another game before the bye.  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14636254 bc4life said:
Quote:
2-7. Not unreasonable to predict 4 wins this year.


And we'd be 0-9 if not for a missed chip shot field goal and Dwayne Haskins.
Shurmur is awful  
Justlurking : 10/20/2019 4:06 pm : link
And the O-Line is a disgrace.
...  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 4:06 pm : link
anyone with eyes know the OL sucks...he was under pressure all day. pathetic.

Sad thing is that  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm : link
these last three games were all winnable. Don't know if that's a good sign or a bad sign moving onto next year. Pretty much lost all confidence in the coaching staff now.
RE: Dave Brown  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14636227 PaulN said:
Quote:
The second coming, instead of Darnold.


8 sacks. And his running saved them from more
RE: Gettleman built an OL worse  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14636242 jcn56 said:
Quote:
than Reese. Can't protect a mobile QB for shit.



Yea thats not true but theyre not much better
Probably should think about OL with our early 1st Round  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm : link
pick next year...
7-16 for the current regime  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm : link
What a fucking joke.
RE: RE: Eli  
Joey from GlenCove : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14636262 Default said:
Quote:
In comment 14636224 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


Quote:


Is the common denominator.



Oh shut the fuck up.
They get shutout with Eli starting.


Disagree I think Eli wins this... and wow youre pathetic
RE: Sad thing is that  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14636284 darren in pdx said:
Quote:
these last three games were all winnable. Don't know if that's a good sign or a bad sign moving onto next year. Pretty much lost all confidence in the coaching staff now.


Sign of a bad coaching staff
RE: 7-16 for the current regime  
mphbullet36 : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14636292 Go Terps said:
Quote:
What a fucking joke.


they aren't winning any of the next 6 either lmao
RE: 8 sacks. Getting hit all day long with zero time to throw.  
crick n NC : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14636259 PhiPsi125 said:
Quote:
But Im sure well get a ton of shit threads this week about how DJ is a bust.

SMH


Eh, he's not a bust, but there are some real ball security issues as well as pocket presence.
RE: 8 sacks. Getting hit all day long with zero time to throw.  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14636259 PhiPsi125 said:
Quote:
But Im sure well get a ton of shit threads this week about how DJ is a bust.

SMH


Dont forget all the drops
RE: 8 sacks. Getting hit all day long with zero time to throw.  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14636259 PhiPsi125 said:
Quote:
But Im sure well get a ton of shit threads this week about how DJ is a bust.

SMH


Too early to say he is a bust BUT he did a bunch of questionable things. If they dont get corrected and comes next year with the same mistakes then it will be an issue.
RE: RE: RE: Eli  
BleedBlue : 10/20/2019 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14636294 Joey from GlenCove said:
Quote:
In comment 14636262 Default said:


Quote:


In comment 14636224 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


Quote:


Is the common denominator.



Oh shut the fuck up.
They get shutout with Eli starting.



Disagree I think Eli wins this... and wow youre pathetic


GTFOH. eli in the rain wins this? jones ran for 2 first downs that eli would have gotten sacked on. youre nuts. eli is done dude
that's  
MookGiants : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
pretty close to rock bottom for the Giants franchise. This Cardinals team is absolutely awful and they came in here and absolutely manhandled the Giants.

Shurmur is a total zero. If they bring him back next year then they deserve to continue losing at an insane clip.

Gettleman's "rebuild" of the offensive line doesn't look so hot. He has 1 building block, another decent player, the most overpaid LT in the sport, and two awful players. And zero depth.

RE: Jones coughing up the ball is a definite problem now.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14636225 FStubbs said:
Quote:
They need to work with him on that this week. Rain or no rain, you hit him and he coughs up the ball. He's been doing this the last few weeks.
Yup. If he can't fix that, he can't play in this league.

Just remembering though that the whole point of this season is to have him learn stuff like that. He's a rookie, he's gonna play like a rookie. My problem is that right now, he's not correcting his mistakes. That concerns me.
it all starts up front  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
OL ought to give their checks back this week.

RE: RE: 8 sacks. Getting hit all day long with zero time to throw.  
AndyMilligan : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14636300 crick n NC said:
Quote:
In comment 14636259 PhiPsi125 said:


Quote:


But Im sure well get a ton of shit threads this week about how DJ is a bust.

SMH



Eh, he's not a bust, but there are some real ball security issues as well as pocket presence.


management needs to have its eyes open. I'm still hopeful about DJ but there is a non-zero chance he is not the answer.
RE: Clean  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14636266 thrunthrublue said:
Quote:
House, from d.g......on down.

Need to clean house with owners. Two wco system coaches in a row.
RE: RE: RE: Eli  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14636294 Joey from GlenCove said:
Quote:
In comment 14636262 Default said:


Quote:


In comment 14636224 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


Quote:


Is the common denominator.



Oh shut the fuck up.
They get shutout with Eli starting.



Disagree I think Eli wins this... and wow youre pathetic


Just wondering why you would think that. Is it Eli's amazing record the last 2 years?
RE: RE: RE: Eli  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14636294 Joey from GlenCove said:
Quote:
In comment 14636262 Default said:


Quote:


In comment 14636224 Coach Red Beaulieu said:

Eli would have been sacked 12 times at least!!


Quote:


Is the common denominator.



Oh shut the fuck up.
They get shutout with Eli starting.



Disagree I think Eli wins this... and wow youre pathetic
RE: RE: 7 sacks  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/20/2019 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14636268 WillVAB said:
Quote:
In comment 14636222 Ten Ton Hammer said:


Quote:


But thank god for dave "hog mollies".



Yep. So thankful for the drafting of Baker, Ballentine, and Love. The Giants couldve drafted Cody Ford in round 2 without trading up.

Fuck this team


When you include Beal, thats 6 picks in the 2019 draft used on 4 DBs. And he didnt draft an OL until the 7th. Just terrible.
RE: RE: 8 sacks. Getting hit all day long with zero time to throw.  
PhiPsi125 : 10/20/2019 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14636300 crick n NC said:
Quote:
In comment 14636259 PhiPsi125 said:


Quote:


But Im sure well get a ton of shit threads this week about how DJ is a bust.

SMH



Eh, he's not a bust, but there are some real ball security issues as well as pocket presence.


Thats gonna happen when your offensive weapons and OL are as bad as the Giants have. Its amazing that Jones wasnt hurt this game.
.  
MOOPS : 10/20/2019 4:11 pm : link
the phrases "8 sacks"  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 4:11 pm : link
and "Jones is a bust" do not belong in same sentence
RE: RE: RE: RE: Eli  
Joey from GlenCove : 10/20/2019 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14636316 BleedBlue said:
Quote:
In comment 14636294 Joey from GlenCove said:


Quote:


In comment 14636262 Default said:


Quote:


In comment 14636224 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


Quote:


Is the common denominator.



Oh shut the fuck up.
They get shutout with Eli starting.



Disagree I think Eli wins this... and wow youre pathetic



GTFOH. eli in the rain wins this? jones ran for 2 first downs that eli would have gotten sacked on. youre nuts. eli is done dude


Elis never played in the rain. Shit youre right. My bad. Maybe he fumbles 6 times.
RE: RE: RE: 8 sacks. Getting hit all day long with zero time to throw.  
crick n NC : 10/20/2019 4:13 pm : link
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But Im sure well get a ton of shit threads this week about how DJ is a bust.

SMH



Eh, he's not a bust, but there are some real ball security issues as well as pocket presence.



Thats gonna happen when your offensive weapons and OL are as bad as the Giants have. Its amazing that Jones wasnt hurt this game.

Not fumbling five times c'mon
This team really needs to  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 4:13 pm : link
hire a proven scout just for OL. My God - since Snee - we have only one decent pick in Hernandez. That's over a decade of drafts
RE: Shurmur is awful  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14636274 Justlurking said:
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And the O-Line is a disgrace.


Scariest part of this is we were coming off a Thursday night game with more than the normal time to plan, and the Cards had to travel here!
Losing at home...  
bw in dc : 10/20/2019 4:13 pm : link
to Kliff Kingsbury and Herve Villechaize at QB - a team traveling east for a 1pm game - is embarrassing.

Positives?  
Gruber : 10/20/2019 4:14 pm : link
Are there any positives at all from todays game?
And I dont mean negative lessons learned, e.g. that we need a new head coach.
How much does OL  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 4:14 pm : link
coaching have to do with it?
This team sucks EVERYWHERE!!!  
Marty866b : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
But it is still the offensive line that is the biggest problem. Eight sacks with three holding penalties and our quarterback hurried or hit on just about every throw. Shurmur and this staff are awful but this is Dave Gettleman's team. Isn't this the guy that said priority number 1 is to fix the o-line? He has signed two players(one to a HUGE contract),traded for another, and used a very high(#2 in the round)to pick another. The result? You guys know what it is. Gettleman is a disaster. Posters here rave about his draft picks. Give me a break. Barkley is great but a very debatable selection. Hindsight is 20/20 but the choice should have been Nelson or Darnold. The rest of his picks? Who knows? I haven't seen many impact plays by his draft picks. We can't fire Mara but IMO, everyone else needs to go. we are 2-5,and should be 1-6 but wither way, this team won't win more then 5 games, if that. Sound familiar?
RE: Positives?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
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Are there any positives at all from todays game?


Barkley isn't dead.
RE: How much does OL  
bw in dc : 10/20/2019 4:17 pm : link
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coaching have to do with it?


Hey, I've been questioning the hiring of Hal Hunter since he was hired.

He should have his entry card confiscated immediately.
So lets see. The DC goes after the season. The HC after next year.  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/20/2019 4:19 pm : link
Then the GM the year after. Hopefully we will know about the QB in 3 more year. Barkley will be 27 by then.....

I really wish the Maras would just go away.
Shurmur claimed on post game  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 4:21 pm : link
that DJ audibles to that draw play to Saquon. Maybe his original play call sucked.
RE: Positives?  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14636415 Gruber said:
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Are there any positives at all from todays game?
And I dont mean negative lessons learned, e.g. that we need a new head coach.


Baker at CB. The kid is a player and we hardly see him or hear his name called lately.
RE: So lets see. The DC goes after the season. The HC after next year.  
NYPanos : 10/20/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14636485 Jim in Hoboken said:
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Then the GM the year after. Hopefully we will know about the QB in 3 more year. Barkley will be 27 by then.....

I really wish the Maras would just go away.


Agreed
RE: RE: RE: Eli  
Default : 10/20/2019 4:23 pm : link
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Is the common denominator.



Oh shut the fuck up.
They get shutout with Eli starting.



Disagree I think Eli wins this... and wow youre pathetic


And youre not living in reality. SMD
RE: RE: RE: Eli  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14636294 Joey from GlenCove said:
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Is the common denominator.



Oh shut the fuck up.
They get shutout with Eli starting.



Disagree I think Eli wins this... and wow youre pathetic


Yeah, Eli's really done well the past couple of years with a bad OL and facing a strong pass rush.
BW is right  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 4:25 pm : link
Dont see Hernandez progressing, Or Halapio. The tackles are helpless and they STILL cant handle a stunt. Screams shitty!coaching.
RE: So lets see. The DC goes after the season. The HC after next year.  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14636485 Jim in Hoboken said:
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Then the GM the year after. Hopefully we will know about the QB in 3 more year. Barkley will be 27 by then.....

I really wish the Maras would just go away.


If we have to live through PS next year too I'm not sure I'll make it through. Good thing my life insurance is paid up and my kids and grand kids will be able to enjoy the Giants future coach.
RE: RE: RE: 8 sacks. Getting hit all day long with zero time to throw.  
Eman11 : 10/20/2019 4:29 pm : link
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But Im sure well get a ton of shit threads this week about how DJ is a bust.

SMH



Eh, he's not a bust, but there are some real ball security issues as well as pocket presence.



management needs to have its eyes open. I'm still hopeful about DJ but there is a non-zero chance he is not the answer.


Can you repost that in English so we can understand what the hell you're trying to say? I get the first part about management but after that it's kinda tough
RE: the phrases  
Big_N : 10/20/2019 4:29 pm : link
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and "Jones is a bust" do not belong in same sentence


CB blitz never even saw it coming .... in a pro league!
Do you remember when franchise QBs  
Big_N : 10/20/2019 4:34 pm : link
lost their starting jobs when the team goes on to win like 10 games in a row without them; like when Tim Tebow got the start and held it when he took his team to the playoffs. Or like when Brady got the nod over Bledsoe. This team still is horrible without Eli. 2-4 now. 2-3 with Jones. I like how evryone is like well "you have to get this guy some help out there" like it was OK to waste prime Eli on a shit team?
At this point...  
BlueManCrew : 10/20/2019 4:40 pm : link
We should spend some assets on an o line change. Not so we can be competitive, but to keep jones healthy. Hes going to end up like Carr in Texas.
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