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Pat Shurmur might be even worse than Ben McAdoo.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 4:07 pm
What a horrible, horrible head coach. Just inept in all facets of the game. Go Terps was 100% right about this dude: he's a loser head coach. He sucked in Cleveland & he sucks here.
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Might be?  
Default : 10/20/2019 4:08 pm : link
He is and it’s not even close.
Ben McAdoo went 11-5 here..  
Sean : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
Don’t insult McAdoo putting them in the same sentence.
He is worse  
Geomon : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
He has no situational awareness.
Might?  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
Look at his career coaching record. It’s not a question.

Francesca was right when he brought up his record to him. And he got pissed off and couldn’t handle it.
He's a gigantic pussy, he can't coach in NY, he felt the heat  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
all week and it affected his decision making today. Contras that with a GM that has convictions and stands by them. Gotta think Dave fires PS.
Seems  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
like another that should stay as a coordinator. Wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt because of Cleveland..but yeah, a good coach gets better play on the little things even when lacking talent.
Pat just got  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 4:10 pm : link
out coached by a failure of a college coach. Thats all that needs to be said.
Nah  
micky : 10/20/2019 4:10 pm : link
He's just part of the "nice guy" movement here lmfao
Disagree  
Bramton1 : 10/20/2019 4:10 pm : link
Neither coach knew/know what the fuck they were doing. But Shurmur hasn't induced infighting in the locker room... yet.

Which is why I'm worried Shurmur is gonna get one more year.
Pat Shurmur is a loser and coaches like one.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 4:10 pm : link
Another fantastic hire by clueless Mara.
He is a train wreck!!!!!  
Chris L. : 10/20/2019 4:11 pm : link
Not up to the task.
I don’t see  
Sammo85 : 10/20/2019 4:11 pm : link
where he exceeds four wins. We have Miami and the Skins and that’s it and who knows if one of those games doesn’t play like a trap.

I think they have to look hard at a coaching change. This is bad. Bad offensive gameplans, bad in game decisions, offensive line play is really really awful still some weeks.
Stop  
BeckShepEli : 10/20/2019 4:11 pm : link
All the veterans on this board say we are idiots. Pat Shurmur is a great head coach and that he’s a QB mastermind. That the reason why we suck was because our offensive players were injured. I mean I was told that at least. No way that a career 17-39 head coach is the reason why this team isn’t good
RE: Pat just got  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/20/2019 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14636339 broadbandz said:
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out coached by a failure of a college coach. Thats all that needs to be said.


Ah college is a different animal where there is no cap and Texas Tech isn’t a sexy player destination compared to other teams in the conference.
That long shot of him towards the end of the 4Q  
Giants_West : 10/20/2019 4:12 pm : link
He doesn't even look like he wants to be there. I cant imagine something less inspiring to a team. And that's exactly how I would describe their play today, uninspired.
I think  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:12 pm : link
He is sadly they won’t fire him and blame in on a rookie qb so next season can be another wasted year
RE: Ben McAdoo went 11-5 here..  
Bramton1 : 10/20/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14636319 Sean said:
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Don’t insult McAdoo putting them in the same sentence.


Can't credit McAdoo for 11-5. The defense carried the offense and McAdoo was supposed to be an offensive guru (like Shurmur). The whole offensive game plan was to throw to Odell and hope he breaked one.
Better tailor  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 4:14 pm : link
and hairstylist.
Time to clean  
mdthedream : 10/20/2019 4:14 pm : link
house with this coaching staff. For one what team plays in the rain without Gloves on? Who calls a draw than goes for it. He is killing me.
RE: That long shot of him towards the end of the 4Q  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14636392 Giants_West said:
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He doesn't even look like he wants to be there. I cant imagine something less inspiring to a team. And that's exactly how I would describe their play today, uninspired.



He’s about as inspiring as a piece of bread
That 4th qtr proved it for me. He is clueless.  
Blue21 : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
I have refrained in the pst from saying anything negative about him but today sealed the deal.
RE: RE: Pat just got  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14636382 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 14636339 broadbandz said:


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out coached by a failure of a college coach. Thats all that needs to be said.



Ah college is a different animal where there is no cap and Texas Tech isn’t a sexy player destination compared to other teams in the conference.


Well we need to hire the next college guy fired because a wet paper sack couldn't do any worse here.
DG’s great roster going to waste  
Vanzetti : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
.
McAdoo lost the team but at least he understood game management  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
This team needs a young head coach. Let's get Salah, hopefully DG isn't prejudiced against him. He's the next great one.
McAdoo is starting to look...  
bw in dc : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
like Don Shula compared to this Shurmur.

When will this lunacy end...
Don't think so  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
But, two years of OL building is this the product they put out against the friggin Cards?
WTF...?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
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1m
3rd & 18: Pat Shurmur blames execution not play call. “Wanted to keep Saquon involved.” #AZvsNYG
This puts Pat Shurmur at a 17-39 career record...  
moespree : 10/20/2019 4:15 pm : link
If he went 12-4 for 3 seasons in a row that'd only make him a 53-51 coach.

He is a career loser.
If he isn't he's close.  
Blue21 : 10/20/2019 4:16 pm : link
.
Pat Shurmur blaming everything but himself.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 4:16 pm : link
Textbook loser.
RE: RE: Pat just got  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14636382 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 14636339 broadbandz said:


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out coached by a failure of a college coach. Thats all that needs to be said.


He won’t do anything as an NFL either that’s how bad Shurmur is


Ah college is a different animal where there is no cap and Texas Tech isn’t a sexy player destination compared to other teams in the conference.
RE: Pat just got  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14636339 broadbandz said:
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out coached by a failure of a college coach. Thats all that needs to be said.

And they had a FF draft, with Pugh lead 3 rushing TD attack, and Suggs finding the fountain of youth.
He's not even a passable OC,let alone a HC  
TheMick7 : 10/20/2019 4:18 pm : link
It boggles the mind to watch him not make the right play calls,not manage the clock,misuse timeouts & generally,just suck!!!
RE: WTF...?  
Azul Grande : 10/20/2019 4:18 pm : link
In comment 14636441 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Kimberly Jones
@KimJonesSports
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1m
3rd & 18: Pat Shurmur blames execution not play call. “Wanted to keep Saquon involved.” #AZvsNYG


It’s been nice knowing you.

The entire organization is a complete mess  
RELICDOA : 10/20/2019 4:18 pm : link
Another year of non competitive football. Year over in mid Oct!!! Worse stretch of Giants football in a very long time.
Play Calling  
steve_in_philly : 10/20/2019 4:18 pm : link
maybe if you suck as a head coach. you should maybe not also call plays. How bout do one thing even ok before you extend your responsibilities. Shurmur should not be calling plays. McAdoo shouldn’t have either. And Mara should force an OC to call plays and just let the head coach be a head coach. Dual responsibilities is clearly not working.
That Shurmur quote seems like another jab at the media  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2019 4:20 pm : link
regarding Barkley's touches. We're coached by a fucking child.
Giants  
NikkiMac : 10/20/2019 4:20 pm : link
Threw the won loss record out the door when they made the decision to start rookie QB ..... offensive line is terrible they better try moving Jones around with options to run ..... they will be lucky to win 2 more games !
RE: RE: Ben McAdoo went 11-5 here..  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14636408 Bramton1 said:
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In comment 14636319 Sean said:


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Don’t insult McAdoo putting them in the same sentence.



Can't credit McAdoo for 11-5. The defense carried the offense and McAdoo was supposed to be an offensive guru (like Shurmur). The whole offensive game plan was to throw to Odell and hope he breaked one.


Our current game plan is to hand it off to Barkley and hope he breaks one.

The offensive line has better players, but it looks just as bad. I'm having trouble believing Solder is just as bad as Erik Flowers, and Remmers is just as bad as Bobby Hart. Zeitler has to be better than John Jerry. So why does the line look the same?
RE: The entire organization is a complete mess  
M.S. : 10/20/2019 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14636470 RELICDOA said:
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Another year of non competitive football. Year over in mid Oct!!! Worse stretch of Giants football in a very long time.

1964-1980.
Francesa  
Sammo85 : 10/20/2019 4:22 pm : link
is going to kill Shurmur and the Giants tomorrow for good reason (and because he picked them for his weekly picks and probably lost good money betting on them).
The 3rd down draw was the nail in the coffin  
RUNYG : 10/20/2019 4:22 pm : link
And then going for it on 4th and 15. Just a clueless moron. Absolutely ridiculous play calling.
RE: Play Calling  
broadbandz : 10/20/2019 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14636474 steve_in_philly said:
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maybe if you suck as a head coach. you should maybe not also call plays. How bout do one thing even ok before you extend your responsibilities. Shurmur should not be calling plays. McAdoo shouldn’t have either. And Mara should force an OC to call plays and just let the head coach be a head coach. Dual responsibilities is clearly not working.


Shurmur should be fired monday, let Bettcher become the intirm coach and let mike call the plays the rest of the year. Then go out and hire a real coach this off-season. Not a career loser.
Loser  
Les in TO : 10/20/2019 4:24 pm : link
In 4 seasons. Mcadoo needed to go but his 2016 was better than anything on Shurmur’s CV as a HC

Just clueless
Parcells and TC  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 4:25 pm : link
Are on the far right of the bell curve.

Handley, Reeves, Fassell, Mcadoo, and Shemur are left and middle side. Standard gaussian probability distribution. Welcome to year 4 of coaching hell.

Why DE we fire TC again?
Mara found this adult for the  
St. Jimmy : 10/20/2019 4:25 pm : link
room. Also found McAdoo as the next offensive genius.
RE: The 3rd down draw was the nail in the coffin  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14636525 RUNYG said:
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And then going for it on 4th and 15. Just a clueless moron. Absolutely ridiculous play calling.

Saying he's a headless chicken is an insult to headless chicken. A 12 year old playing Madden wouldn't make those skin crawling calls.
Posted this a few days back...  
M.S. : 10/20/2019 4:27 pm : link

...Contrary to the popular forecast for Pat Shurmur, the numerics are very simple:

(1) Seven wins or more and he'll definitely be back next season;

(2) Five to six wins 50% chance he's here;

(3) Four wins or less he is gone.

The narrative about giving Daniel Jones a consistent coaching presence is a false one IMO. This is much more about whether or not Pat Shurmur can lead an NFL team.

Four wins this season would make him 19-46 as a Head Coach. And that makes him a goner with zero chance he'll ever get a Head Coaching job again in the NFL.
RE: RE: RE: Ben McAdoo went 11-5 here..  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14636499 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14636408 Bramton1 said:


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In comment 14636319 Sean said:


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Don’t insult McAdoo putting them in the same sentence.



Can't credit McAdoo for 11-5. The defense carried the offense and McAdoo was supposed to be an offensive guru (like Shurmur). The whole offensive game plan was to throw to Odell and hope he breaked one.



Our current game plan is to hand it off to Barkley and hope he breaks one.

The offensive line has better players, but it looks just as bad. I'm having trouble believing Solder is just as bad as Erik Flowers, and Remmers is just as bad as Bobby Hart. Zeitler has to be better than John Jerry. So why does the line look the same?

Remer and Zeigler just stood their as Jones waltzed passed him like he was a ghost.
Fassel  
CMicks3110 : 10/20/2019 4:29 pm : link
is in the middle. He wasn't a bad coach. He did have two very good coordinators though --- Peyton and Fox.
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