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Francesa chiming in with his 2 cents.

Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 4:21 pm
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2019 4:22 pm : link
Da Pope is right, as much as it pains me to type that.
Heís Right  
Samiam : 10/20/2019 4:23 pm : link
Coaching is bad but the players are bad as well at least many of them. When do you remember this many missed tackles?
You know what they say about a broken clock  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 4:23 pm : link
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go choke on a pork chop  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 4:23 pm : link
yu fat piece of shit
This is the worst run franchise in football  
Giantfan21 : 10/20/2019 4:24 pm : link
in the last 7 years . I dont know how that can be argued at this point . They deserve all the criticism they get and more . John mara needs to sell the team
Itís all on the coaching staff  
BlueHurricane : 10/20/2019 4:24 pm : link
A good coach would have this same team at 5-2.
Thatís the real one, not the parody account  
dpinzow : 10/20/2019 4:25 pm : link
I think he only recently got on twitter
RE: This is the worst run franchise in football  
FStubbs : 10/20/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14636543 Giantfan21 said:
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in the last 7 years . I dont know how that can be argued at this point . They deserve all the criticism they get and more . John mara needs to sell the team


I don't know if we're worse run than Washington but the organization is a stale, moldy, nepotistic piece of garbage.
He's wrong  
micky : 10/20/2019 4:26 pm : link
This is the best giants team in years..maybe even better than the 86 squad
So no  
cokeduplt : 10/20/2019 4:27 pm : link
Insight
He's not making this point out of analysis.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 4:27 pm : link
He's making it out of a personal vendetta.
6 points is buried?  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 4:29 pm : link
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RE: He's not making this point out of analysis.  
Jim in Tampa : 10/20/2019 4:29 pm : link
In comment 14636580 Mr. Bungle said:
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He's making it out of a personal vendetta.

That doesn't mean he's wrong.
Francesca hates Gettleman so he's going to try to pin it on him  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/20/2019 4:30 pm : link
but this loss was all coaching.
RE: He's not making this point out of analysis.  
Rflairr : 10/20/2019 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14636580 Mr. Bungle said:
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He's making it out of a personal vendetta.


And heís still right. Gettleman and the owner are losers too. They hired a loser coach
Heís right  
Sammo85 : 10/20/2019 4:33 pm : link
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They hired a coach  
Dave on the UWS : 10/20/2019 4:33 pm : link
to change the culture. Would be nice if he could actually, you know, coach!
I hate Francessa  
LG in NYC : 10/20/2019 4:36 pm : link
but he is ight in this instance.

this team is a group of gutless losers... and it starts at the top.
He's right  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/20/2019 4:37 pm : link
Shurmur is going to get destroyed this week. The OL is regressing badly and that is his forte.
F- off High Pockets  
GiantsUA : 10/20/2019 4:46 pm : link
Tough 24 hours - first the Yanks and now this crap.

Well at least we have the Knicks coming up next week.
RE: RE: He's not making this point out of analysis.  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/20/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14636605 Rflairr said:
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In comment 14636580 Mr. Bungle said:


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He's making it out of a personal vendetta.



And heís still right. Gettleman and the owner are losers too. They hired a loser coach


Well at least they got rid of Reese
RE: RE: He's not making this point out of analysis.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/20/2019 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14636598 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 14636580 Mr. Bungle said:


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He's making it out of a personal vendetta.


That doesn't mean he's wrong.

It also doesn't mean there's any insight in it.
He's right  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 4:50 pm : link
As an organization they don't know which way is up right now, and they have the wrong people leading the way.

This is an organization in crisis. This requires ownership level decisions.
But wait, there's more  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/20/2019 4:52 pm : link
Whatever way the wind blows, eh guys?  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 10/20/2019 4:52 pm : link
24 hours ago we were going to compete for the division, now the sky is falling?

The truth is somewhere in the middle.

and many of you should be on mood stabilizers.
The wind has been blowing the same way for years  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 4:53 pm : link
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That said  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 10/20/2019 4:53 pm : link
Francesca doesn't deserve any attention whatsoever.
LakeGeorgeGiant  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 4:56 pm : link
My upstate NY homeboy - I try to be patient and give them the benefit of the doubt, but, the painful truth is this team is mediocre - 2 years in, still one of worst teams in the league, and I just do not see continued improvement at this point.

BTW< people talking playoffs were kidding themselves.
Does anyone think  
Sy'56 : 10/20/2019 4:59 pm : link
he is wrong?
Well if Mike F  
KDubbs : 10/20/2019 4:59 pm : link
Thinks that bout Shurmer, then Shurmur is bout to get an extension because the opposite always happens when he speaks
Why does Francesa hate Gettleman?  
short lease : 10/20/2019 5:10 pm : link

Someone mentioned it above ... Anyone know their history?
Francesa is a blowhard  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/20/2019 5:14 pm : link
But... he's not entirely wrong

He has an axe to grind with Gettleman (who wouldn't go on his show) and Shurmur (who cancelled his appearances)
Maybe Shurmur  
liteamorn : 10/20/2019 5:25 pm : link
Should be in concussion protocol...
RE: Does anyone think  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14636789 Sy'56 said:
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he is wrong?


The same crowd who think it should take 5 years to field a competitive team do.
RE: Francesa is a blowhard  
short lease : 10/20/2019 5:39 pm : link
In comment 14636872 GiantsRage2007 said:
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But... he's not entirely wrong

He has an axe to grind with Gettleman (who wouldn't go on his show) and Shurmur (who cancelled his appearances)



That is why he hates Gettleman? Geez ....
RE: Maybe Shurmur  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/20/2019 5:41 pm : link
In comment 14636908 liteamorn said:
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Should be in concussion protocol...


Good one!
Francesa  
darren in pdx : 10/20/2019 5:43 pm : link
is also an asshole as much as the team is bad.
Agree with the Coach aspect of it .  
Bluesbreaker : 10/20/2019 5:54 pm : link
Shumur is a loser and sounds like one his record
says it and watching this game it's clear he is not
the answer . we look like a 3 win team .
RE: This is the worst run franchise in football  
EricJ : 10/20/2019 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14636543 Giantfan21 said:
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in the last 7 years . I dont know how that can be argued at this point . They deserve all the criticism they get and more . John mara needs to sell the team


yeah they are going to sell the family's cash cow because fans think they should. Too funny...
RE: Francesa  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 6:24 pm : link
In comment 14636989 darren in pdx said:
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is also an asshole as much as the team is bad.
Francesa is also a huge Giants fan who remembers the 70's and what went on then and sees echoes of the same now.
RE: He's right  
djm : 10/20/2019 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14636736 Go Terps said:
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As an organization they don't know which way is up right now, and they have the wrong people leading the way.

This is an organization in crisis. This requires ownership level decisions.


I think Mara has good intentions but I really donít trust his decision making. At times I think he makes certain decisions for all the wrong reasons but more importantly he just doesnít have a good batting average.
RE: RE: He's right  
Go Terps : 10/20/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14637164 djm said:
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In comment 14636736 Go Terps said:


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As an organization they don't know which way is up right now, and they have the wrong people leading the way.

This is an organization in crisis. This requires ownership level decisions.



I think Mara has good intentions but I really donít trust his decision making. At times I think he makes certain decisions for all the wrong reasons but more importantly he just doesnít have a good batting average.


This team is fucked until they open their eyes and restructure the front office and its relationship to the head coach.

In the meantime, get used to more shitty football and wasted years.
RE: RE: He's right  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14637164 djm said:
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In comment 14636736 Go Terps said:


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As an organization they don't know which way is up right now, and they have the wrong people leading the way.

This is an organization in crisis. This requires ownership level decisions.



I think Mara has good intentions but I really donít trust his decision making. At times I think he makes certain decisions for all the wrong reasons but more importantly he just doesnít have a good batting average.
It is a given he is a good person with the best of intentions. He makes very poor decisions and has since he started calling the shots after the last Super Bowl win. One bad, at times mind-boggling, decision after another. This disaster did not need to happen.
They lost 27-21  
lawguy9801 : 10/20/2019 6:44 pm : link
Not 41-3, and with a chance to win at the end.

Not good, obviously, but not a blowout or uncompetitive game by any means.
RE: Francesca hates Gettleman so he's going to try to pin it on him  
hitdog42 : 10/20/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14636601 Zeke's Alibi said:
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but this loss was all coaching.

Except 2 of the tackles chosen specifically by gettleman and the awful middle linebacker and free safety are the biggest reasons they lose
Mike called it  
broadbandz : 10/21/2019 1:25 am : link
the last two coaches that canceled on him didn't make it through the season. Shurmur isn't going to last until December. Mike nailed it.
RE: They lost 27-21  
HomerJones45 : 10/21/2019 5:17 pm : link
In comment 14637198 lawguy9801 said:
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Not 41-3, and with a chance to win at the end.

Not good, obviously, but not a blowout or uncompetitive game by any means.
Well good try but this was one of the worst teams in the NFL playing on the road and we had 10 days to prepare. I dont care if it was one point; tough to put lipstick on this pig.
RE: They lost 27-21  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/21/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14637198 lawguy9801 said:
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Not 41-3, and with a chance to win at the end.

Not good, obviously, but not a blowout or uncompetitive game by any means.


At home.
With 10 days for rest and prep.
Against a west coast team coming across the country.
They were down 17 points after the first quarter.
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