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The State of New York Sports

Anakim : 10/20/2019 5:14 pm
Indulge me while I go on a little rant because I'm just so fed up with my Giants, Rangers and Knicks.



I'm so fucking sick of tuning into every game and watching my teams lose consistently. I don't know why I take it so personally and why every loss eats away at me, but it really feels like forever since these teams have been good (actually, for the Knicks, it has been forever).


Giants are in complete disarray. I mean I don't need to tell you all. We're perpetual losers and I take these losses to heart. It kind of ruins my week. The offseason is so damn long so when football season finally comes around, it feels like it's been ages. And now that it's finally here and the Giants suck AGAIN, it's just a complete letdown.


Rangers are a mess. Kakko hasn't lived up to billing, Quinn doesn't know what the hell he's doing, Marc Staal continues to see ice-time and we keep losing. I know we're built more for the years to come than this year, but it's not easy to see your team fucking lose on a regular basis, especially when the young players are not getting ice-time and when they do, they're not effective.


And the Knicks...'nuff said.
Well, it's going to be tough watching the Knicks until January.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2019 5:18 pm : link
It'll probably take them that long to sort out roles and chemistry. After that, who knows?

As for the Giants, well, maybe better to go for a walk, enjoy life in other ways for a while. Listen instead of watch. Catch highlights later. I dunno. A Giants game doesn't seem like something worth planning a day around at this point
RE: Well, it's going to be tough watching the Knicks until January.  
Anakim : 10/20/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14636885 81_Great_Dane said:
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As for the Giants, well, maybe better to go for a walk, enjoy life in other ways for a while. Listen instead of watch. Catch highlights later. I dunno. A Giants game doesn't seem like something worth planning a day around at this point



I can't help it. I have this compulsive need to watch every Giants game. I've only missed one game in 15 years and that was the Geno Smith game.
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bigron732 : 10/20/2019 5:20 pm : link
Giants, rangers, Yankees fan here. Don’t follow the nba anymore, it’s a garbage sport that supports authoritarian regimes that murder its citizens.



Giants have been an abomination for a long time. I don’t know why I watch anymore. Why I care. I need a hobby in Sundays.

Rangers are rebuilding. They had a real window to win the cup, and they blew it. Now they will suck for a while too. I don’t really that getting better anytime soon.

Yankees are good but cashman’s insistence that you don’t need starting pitching is holding the team back. Astros and Nats, both stellar starting pitching. I’m sick of the lineup going cold in the playoffs. The regular season home run records mean nothing.
Looking forward to Wednesday and seeing how the Knicks perform.  
GiantsUA : 10/20/2019 5:30 pm : link
The way the Giants looked today, IDK, several more years of high draft picks and new coaches.

Yikes, this is a monumental collapse, great run 07-11, 12-19 with one exception has been really bad.

The Rangers got a fighting Finn, hopefully he will develop into a great NHL player and leader.
The Yanks just closed up shop  
jcn56 : 10/20/2019 5:32 pm : link
which means no more winning around these parts until April.
More to life than stupid sports teams  
micky : 10/20/2019 5:32 pm : link
Yikes
Why do my corner blitzes never work in Madden  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/20/2019 5:42 pm : link
but works like a fucking charm against Shermur?

I use it primarily as a quasi-run blitz.
RE: More to life than stupid sports teams  
Anakim : 10/20/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14636942 micky said:
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Yikes


Mick, I know you have a different perspective on life given what you've been through and I can respect that. Health crises make sports stuff seem trivial.
Same here  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 5:45 pm : link
Giants, Rangers, Yankees and Knicks all in bad places.

Even the secondary teams aren't doing so well.

At least I have that UVa Basketball championship and hopefully NYCFC can win the MLS title this year.
Pull an Arcarsenal  
Overseer : 10/20/2019 5:49 pm : link
and just switch your team allegiance(s). That's a direct way to end your misery. You can use Belichick's Giants history as a reason for switching to the Pats.

Fans of the NYG, despite the abomination that the team presently is and will in all likelihood continue to be, have had it very very good by any standard not based on New England. Could you imagine being a fan of the Dolphins or Jets or Bengals or Browns...? Even the seemingly always in contention Steelers seem headed for a post "killer Bs" downturn.

Lastly, not for nothing, but it's usually a good sign when one is emotionally affected by the highs & lows of sports. So count your blessings for the things that actually matter.

A Quick Observation  
Jim in NH : 10/20/2019 5:52 pm : link
I lived in NY until I was 30. I worked in a highly competitive field that has nothing to do with sports.

I've moved twice since then, and now I live in the woods near Canada. L go back to the Big Town with kids and grandkids twice a year, and I (obviously) am a big Giants fan.

All the people who were working with me in 1980 are still there, the bosses now of course, or starting to retire. The reason they're there is atet it's almost impossible to get talent with choices to move to New York.

I used to believe the myths about the City Game, the Garden, the New York Football Giants, and all that.

But it turns out that it's extra hard to get anybody with a life somewhere else to move there. When I'm here for a week or so, I'm always like, "Holy sh*t, did I really ever live like this?"

That might have something to do with the very long Knicks-Rangers-Mets-Giants-Jets problem. Only the Yankees seem exempt, and I do actually think for baseball players being a Yankee is actually something special.
I know it hurts to hear  
AndyMilligan : 10/20/2019 5:58 pm : link
but New York is not as good a sports town as we sometimes like to think. Sports is secondary in NY to everything else NY has to offer. In general, NYers are fair weather fans compared to other obsessed sports towns .

Yes there are many hardcore fans, and owing to NYs size in sheer numbers it may rival CHI and BOS in total amount, but those cities live and die by their teams more than NY does.

Yes the Knicks sell out in spite of being atrocious, but again the sheer size of Manhattan accounts for it. I also think consequently New York is prone to having ownership who view their teams as a luxury side project.

Don't get me wrong, NY is great for sports, but we have other competing options when our teams are dreadful that other cities do not.

RE: A Quick Observation  
Anakim : 10/20/2019 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14637031 Jim in NH said:
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I lived in NY until I was 30. I worked in a highly competitive field that has nothing to do with sports.

I've moved twice since then, and now I live in the woods near Canada. L go back to the Big Town with kids and grandkids twice a year, and I (obviously) am a big Giants fan.

All the people who were working with me in 1980 are still there, the bosses now of course, or starting to retire. The reason they're there is atet it's almost impossible to get talent with choices to move to New York.

I used to believe the myths about the City Game, the Garden, the New York Football Giants, and all that.

But it turns out that it's extra hard to get anybody with a life somewhere else to move there. When I'm here for a week or so, I'm always like, "Holy sh*t, did I really ever live like this?"

That might have something to do with the very long Knicks-Rangers-Mets-Giants-Jets problem. Only the Yankees seem exempt, and I do actually think for baseball players being a Yankee is actually something special.


Could be. Could be its more about the New York mystique. I'm sure many prefer to live in a big ol' house the quiet suburbs than an apartment in bustling NYC. Knicks have a horrible time recruiting players to come, whereas the Rangers are like the #1 preferred destination for NHL players. The Giants fall somewhere in between.
RE: I know it hurts to hear  
Anakim : 10/20/2019 6:33 pm : link
In comment 14637050 AndyMilligan said:
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but New York is not as good a sports town as we sometimes like to think. Sports is secondary in NY to everything else NY has to offer. In general, NYers are fair weather fans compared to other obsessed sports towns .

Yes there are many hardcore fans, and owing to NYs size in sheer numbers it may rival CHI and BOS in total amount, but those cities live and die by their teams more than NY does.

Yes the Knicks sell out in spite of being atrocious, but again the sheer size of Manhattan accounts for it. I also think consequently New York is prone to having ownership who view their teams as a luxury side project.

Don't get me wrong, NY is great for sports, but we have other competing options when our teams are dreadful that other cities do not.



I do agree. New York sports teams tend to have the largest fanbases in sports (with the exception of teams like the Nets, Islanders and Devils), but that's because of the sheer size of New York. As far as passionate, diehard fans go, they're few and far between. I happen to be one of them, though.
RE: RE: More to life than stupid sports teams  
micky : 10/20/2019 6:42 pm : link
In comment 14636990 Anakim said:
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In comment 14636942 micky said:


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Yikes



Mick, I know you have a different perspective on life given what you've been through and I can respect that. Health crises make sports stuff seem trivial.


Anikim you are good poster. Just don't let these teams bring you down. Its frustrating ..understand. time evens out things.
Great post Andy...  
richynyc : 10/20/2019 6:56 pm : link
...I’m about to turn 65 but was still out there today tailgating by 10:00 and then in my seat getting pretty damn wet until the game ended (never said I was smart or sensible), but that’s what fans do. And while I’ve given up on both the NBA (don’t care for the style of play) and MLB (don’t care for the pace of play), I do go to about 15 Rangers games a year, because hockey is still such a wonderful sport to watch live in person.

But to your point, Andy, having lived in NYC for 42 years, I agree that when my sports teams suck and are in the toilet, as they mostly have been for a while, I still have so, so many other things to which I can devote my attentions - concerts (Los Lobos/Bromberg on Thursday, Wilco twice last weekend), Art (the new Moma Saturday), theater (too many to name), bookstores (Three Lives and the Strand), my favorite neighborhood bars and restaurants where I find such a great sense of community when I go to places I’ve frequented for these past 42 years (at Sevilla on Charles with a margarita right now), that I find it’s not that hard to accept the failure of my teams while still finding other pursuits and pleasures.

And I’m not sure that if I lived in Calgary and my Flames sucked I accept their suckitude so easily. Perhaps that’s why this place is called the Big Apple, and I consider myself so fortunate to live here, and root for my local teams through both good times and bad.
I hear you Anakim  
Vanzetti : 10/20/2019 8:02 pm : link
I use sports to relax and get away from pressures of the real world

It can be great when one of your teams is doing well and you can look forward to the next game

But it really blows when all your teams are awful
Yeah...  
Hsilwek92 : 10/20/2019 8:11 pm : link
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...Lastly, not for nothing, but it's usually a good sign when one is emotionally affected by the highs & lows of sports...


Pretty sure most medical professionals would disagree with you there.
The Rangers losing today was just a cherry on top of a shitty sports  
BestFeature : 10/20/2019 8:20 pm : link
day. I can never complain about going to a game with people I like and there good parts to this game, but damn, a downpour, a loss, and a kick in the nuts from the Rangers was not fun.
RE: Great post Andy...  
AndyMilligan : 10/21/2019 2:41 pm : link
In comment 14637252 richynyc said:
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...I’m about to turn 65 but was still out there today tailgating by 10:00 and then in my seat getting pretty damn wet until the game ended (never said I was smart or sensible), but that’s what fans do. And while I’ve given up on both the NBA (don’t care for the style of play) and MLB (don’t care for the pace of play), I do go to about 15 Rangers games a year, because hockey is still such a wonderful sport to watch live in person.

But to your point, Andy, having lived in NYC for 42 years, I agree that when my sports teams suck and are in the toilet, as they mostly have been for a while, I still have so, so many other things to which I can devote my attentions - concerts (Los Lobos/Bromberg on Thursday, Wilco twice last weekend), Art (the new Moma Saturday), theater (too many to name), bookstores (Three Lives and the Strand), my favorite neighborhood bars and restaurants where I find such a great sense of community when I go to places I’ve frequented for these past 42 years (at Sevilla on Charles with a margarita right now), that I find it’s not that hard to accept the failure of my teams while still finding other pursuits and pleasures.

And I’m not sure that if I lived in Calgary and my Flames sucked I accept their suckitude so easily. Perhaps that’s why this place is called the Big Apple, and I consider myself so fortunate to live here, and root for my local teams through both good times and bad.


i agree!! thanks for the thoughtful reply.
As always, the Giants and Yankees are this city's best hopes  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/21/2019 2:47 pm : link
and the Giants still suck and the Yankees can't get the past the Astros. Sucks.
Buffalo is in the State of New York  
jeff57 : 10/21/2019 2:48 pm : link
And the Bills are doing well.
a certain Fordham running back had a big day yesterday  
Del Shofner : 10/21/2019 2:58 pm : link
- just sayin' ....

Meanwhile, I am looking forward to seeing St Johns hoops under their new coach.
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