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EJJ : 10/20/2019 7:35 pm
Bust? This guy has a ton of talent but cant seem to seize the opportunity he has.
Too many drops  
jeff57 : 10/20/2019 7:37 pm : link
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I was hoping this was an update on his injured eye.  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/20/2019 7:37 pm : link
That didn't look too well.

He needs some sort of gloves playing in the rain. He couldn't catch shit with his hands bare.

To your original point, he isn't a bust.
He canít seize the ball either. I realized today why they donít  
Ivan15 : 10/20/2019 7:38 pm : link
really want him to play WR.
Comical  
Canton : 10/20/2019 7:38 pm : link
~Tiki

Rain rain go away
Can dominate, often fails to do so.  
trueblueinpw : 10/20/2019 7:39 pm : link
Injury and drops. Wasnít that pretty much the book on him coming out of Ole Miss? Maybe not a great pick but not sure heís a bust yet.
that dude is up and down  
mdc1 : 10/20/2019 7:40 pm : link
. not consistent over his time here. Being out did not help then he gets poked in the eye.
can't see him getting a second contract  
japanhead : 10/20/2019 7:41 pm : link
but i didn't think they'd give one to shepard either so who the fuck knows. i preferred ballard and boss honestly.
can't see him getting a second contract  
japanhead : 10/20/2019 7:42 pm : link
but i didn't think they'd give one to shepard either so who the fuck knows. i preferred ballard and boss honestly.
The last of Reese's shiny toys.  
Diver_Down : 10/20/2019 7:42 pm : link
Been reading for years on BBI that Engram is ready to dominate. He gives great effort on his blocking, but he still isn't good. And as a pass-catching TE, he drops an awful lot of passes. He's not a bust, but he certainly hasn't lived up to his draft slot.

He'll always be Evan "Not Ramczyk" Engram. Reese knew we desperately needed to address the OL. He chose the shiny toy instead of a building block on the OL.
If he could catch the ball he'd be really solid  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/20/2019 7:42 pm : link
But injured too much as well. We can't rely on him at all.
If he could catch and block he'd be a good TE  
PatersonPlank : 10/20/2019 7:44 pm : link
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Maybe if the Giants would stop throwing him 2 yard crossing routes  
SterlingArcher : 10/20/2019 7:46 pm : link
and throw him the ball down the seams he would do better!
He will go on to  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/20/2019 7:49 pm : link
Another team and dominate!!

Giants coaching has sucked all his years
For one  
Hsilwek92 : 10/20/2019 7:52 pm : link
why the fuck wasnít he wearing gloves?

Two, even with the drops, the Cardinals are THE WORST at covering TEís. He was targeted a total of 5 times. How was he not a bigger part of the game plan from this coaching staff? Did they even know the Cards sucked at covering TEís?
Is it possible he wasn't 100%?  
Eli Wilson : 10/20/2019 7:55 pm : link
Maybe that's why he wasn't open.

Maybe he'll always be injured and not 100%.

WTH knows.

Whole team was a letdown today.
Sy's studs should have no one on the list.
RE: For one  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2019 7:57 pm : link
In comment 14637449 Hsilwek92 said:

Two, even with the drops, the Cardinals are THE WORST at covering TEís. He was targeted a total of 5 times. How was he not a bigger part of the game plan from this coaching staff? Did they even know the Cards sucked at covering TEís? [/quote]
This is what drove me nuts. Sure he had the two drops but how was he not a bigger part of the game plan?? Honestly I thought that Shurmur did deserve another year but I can no longer justify keeping him around after yet another game filled with questionable calls and clock management.
He's been pretty inconsistent. He's got great speed, but for a fast  
Ira : 10/20/2019 7:58 pm : link
player, he doesn't separate that well. His hands aren't that good either. He's always capable of a big game, but doesn't do it every week. His blocking won't ever be great, but he has worked hard to improve it to the point where it's not too bad.
Coming back from concussion - plus rain et.  
GiantsUA : 10/20/2019 7:59 pm : link
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Route 9 : 10/20/2019 8:01 pm : link
Maybe I'm just a grumpy old cat who didn't get his meal yet tonight but I am SO tired of hearing every week going into a game how this guy needs to step it up and he's going to be this big target. Yeah, he came off an injury.

But yeah, fuck it, hes a bust. Why isn't he?
Not only Engram  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2019 8:02 pm : link
Darius Slayton was targeted only twice while Bennie Fowler, who was just brought back, was targeted 5 times which is the same number as Engram.
Would you want him back? Why?  
Route 9 : 10/20/2019 8:02 pm : link
Shouldve been taken in the 4th round
RE: If he could catch the ball he'd be really solid  
Route 9 : 10/20/2019 8:04 pm : link
In comment 14637410 Bold Ruler said:
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But injured too much as well. We can't rely on him at all.


Well, that's a good point. I mean catching the ball is a part of his job.
RE: Coming back from concussion - plus rain et.  
Hsilwek92 : 10/20/2019 8:05 pm : link
In comment 14637474 GiantsUA said:
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Still no excuse for this coaching staff to not game plan for a weakness nearly every team theyíve played has taken advantage of. Thereís only two things I can think of as to why, 1) gross negligence re: game planning or 2) hubris in thinking they could beat them another way.

Neither of those scenarios are acceptable.
RE: If he could catch and block he'd be a good TE  
giantsFC : 10/20/2019 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14637418 PatersonPlank said:
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And not get hurt...
Stone hands  
Dave in PA : 10/20/2019 8:08 pm : link
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Could have drafted Ramczyk or TJ Watt  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/20/2019 8:09 pm : link
...two excellent prospects at positions of need.
The Robert Duran  
XBRONX : 10/20/2019 8:11 pm : link
of tight ends.
The Robert Duran  
XBRONX : 10/20/2019 8:11 pm : link
of tight ends.
Ramzyck  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 8:13 pm : link
has been hurt just as much if not more so. He was out today
RE: Coming back from concussion - plus rain et.  
KJG5173 : 10/20/2019 8:13 pm : link
In comment 14637474 GiantsUA said:
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It was a knee injury not concussion.
He's like Ebron  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 8:15 pm : link
Ebron has huge games and disappears others. Nature of the beast with these guys. He's not Kelce or Ertz.
I take that back  
bc4life : 10/20/2019 8:16 pm : link
was thinking about Conklin
Not an exaggeration to say that the big drop he had might have cost us  
BestFeature : 10/20/2019 8:18 pm : link
this game.
RE: Ramzyck  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/20/2019 8:21 pm : link
In comment 14637515 bc4life said:
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has been hurt just as much if not more so. He was out today


He played today. Aikman was talking about how great he is. Did he get hurt?
RE: He's like Ebron  
Jay on the Island : 10/20/2019 8:21 pm : link
In comment 14637524 HomerJones45 said:
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Ebron has huge games and disappears others. Nature of the beast with these guys. He's not Kelce or Ertz.

Evan Engram has more receiving yards, touchdowns, and the same amount of receptions as Ertz while also having a higher average yards per reception despite playing in 1 less game.

I'm as frustrated as anyone after today's performance but trying to suggest Engram is a bad player is absurd. I guess we will just pretend that he wasn't playing with a knee injury.
Barkley had a pass slip  
beatrixkiddo : 10/20/2019 8:23 pm : link
Right through his fingers, Tate had a few of them as well, why single out Engram. Guy is roughing out a a knee injury and had one of his eyes swollen shut after it was poked in. Engram is a stud, enough of the nonsense.
RE: RE: Ramzyck  
Hsilwek92 : 10/20/2019 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14637549 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 14637515 bc4life said:


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has been hurt just as much if not more so. He was out today



He played today. Aikman was talking about how great he is. Did he get hurt?


Who cares? The argument is moot anyway because, itís only being made in hindsight.

There are literally hundreds of arguments to be made when it comes to the draft and who couldíve been picked. Itís just as ridiculous and futile as imagining what you would do if you won the lottery.
Iíd have no issue shopping him at the deadline.  
bceagle05 : 10/20/2019 8:27 pm : link
He and Jackrabbit are probably the two best assets we have.
RE: RE: RE: Ramzyck  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14637564 Hsilwek92 said:
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Who cares? The argument is moot anyway because, itís only being made in hindsight.

There are literally hundreds of arguments to be made when it comes to the draft and who couldíve been picked. Itís just as ridiculous and futile as imagining what you would do if you won the lottery.


not everybody looks at in hindsight...
Another  
nygnyy274 : 10/20/2019 8:29 pm : link
Bad Reese pick. The guy to take was Ryan Ramczyk. Who is one of the best offensive linemen in the NFL. Our o line still sucks to.
Engram certainly wasn't a bad pick  
Jimmy Googs : 10/20/2019 8:33 pm : link
just a bit early...
Njoku was the likely alternative  
adamg : 10/20/2019 9:23 pm : link
Everyone was hot on him. And TE was a strong need. At the time, Engram was considered a reach. In hindsight, we could consider ourselves fortunate at the production we've gotten especially in relation to Njoku who has played more games and has significantly less impressive numbers.
Today Something Seemed To Have Hurt Him  
Percy : 10/20/2019 9:29 pm : link
Physically. I never saw what happened to him but did see him on the ground, very slow to get up, sitting there worrying at his eye or eyes and pretty wobbly. What was that all about? Finger in the eye? Something else?
Why doesn't he were gloves, like every reciever?  
George from PA : 10/20/2019 9:37 pm : link
It Pouring rain.....every reciever has those gloves with that sticky rubber....but not Engram.


My son and I were screaming to anyone....to get him football gloves
RE: RE: He's like Ebron  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2019 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14637551 Jay on the Island said:
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Ebron has huge games and disappears others. Nature of the beast with these guys. He's not Kelce or Ertz.


Evan Engram has more receiving yards, touchdowns, and the same amount of receptions as Ertz while also having a higher average yards per reception despite playing in 1 less game.

I'm as frustrated as anyone after today's performance but trying to suggest Engram is a bad player is absurd. I guess we will just pretend that he wasn't playing with a knee injury.
Who said he is a bad player? He's a different player than Kelce or Ertz (who caught 116 passes last season) and is not going to be a consistent 8 catch 80 yard guy every game. Doesn't mean he's not useful and he's going to have a huge games.
RE: Maybe if the Giants would stop throwing him 2 yard crossing routes  
mrvax : 10/20/2019 9:59 pm : link
In comment 14637422 SterlingArcher said:
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and throw him the ball down the seams he would do better!


I really think you are right but a real seem route takes maybe 3 seconds and the Oline is only giving 2 - 2.5.

I believe the total failure of the Oline not blocking is the key reason this team has been crappy for years.
Trade him  
Mr. Nickels : 10/20/2019 10:13 pm : link
to New England
Haha  
KWALL2 : 10/20/2019 10:41 pm : link
Wont be a consistent ď8 catch 80 yardĒ guy?

Also known as the 128catch 1280yard Tight End.
Funny  
Rjanyg : 10/20/2019 10:41 pm : link
He was a stud a couple weeks ago to many on BBI.

He needs to play better but he is a talented player. Everybody sucked today. He was playing hurt and Iím sure he thought he was getting lit up on that go route.

RE: RE: RE: Ramzyck  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/21/2019 12:06 am : link
In comment 14637564 Hsilwek92 said:
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Who cares? The argument is moot anyway because, itís only being made in hindsight.


No hindsight. Plenty were pissed with the pick during the draft and that we didn't draft an OT.
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Route 9 : 10/21/2019 12:06 am : link
Two of his three touchdowns in 2018 were in garbage time, by the way.
I heard Seahawks  
Carson53 : 10/21/2019 8:50 am : link
are looking for TE help, now may be the time to move on.
He is injury prone and inconsistent with his hands.
RE: Barkley had a pass slip  
Carson53 : 10/21/2019 8:54 am : link
In comment 14637557 beatrixkiddo said:
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Right through his fingers, Tate had a few of them as well, why single out Engram. Guy is roughing out a a knee injury and had one of his eyes swollen shut after it was poked in. Engram is a stud, enough of the nonsense.


Barkley also ran backwards a couple times, once after catching a screen pass, cost them a lot of yards.
That is high school stuff, can't do that in the NFL.
I think he was trying to do too much, after a layoff.
He also missed a couple blocks in pass blocking,
that might have been a result of rust or not playing for a month.
I would rather have a bigger  
giants_10_88 : 10/21/2019 9:14 am : link
TE with better hands like Mark Andrews.
RE: Funny  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/21/2019 9:17 am : link
In comment 14637806 Rjanyg said:
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He was a stud a couple weeks ago to many on BBI.

He needs to play better but he is a talented player. Everybody sucked today. He was playing hurt and Iím sure he thought he was getting lit up on that go route.


Yeah, this seems a little odd to me as everyone said he was a stud just a couple of weeks ago before he got hurt.
He looked like he needed a corner man yesterday  
jcn56 : 10/21/2019 9:20 am : link
to cut open his eye.
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