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adamg : 10/20/2019 11:58 pm
1. Paxton can show up when it counts. He showed us something with that 6 IP 1 R gem.

2. DJ is worth extending. MVP. 'nough said.

3. Tanaka is still the man in the post season.

4. Didi is clutch at times and disappears off the face of the earth at others. Do his glove and Yankee stadium swing make him worthwhile as a building block?

(My answer: I'm really ambivalent on Didi which makes me lean no off the bat. (Pardon the pun.) But great shortstops don't grow on trees. For him personally Yankee Stadium is a boon. He should consider a more team friendly deal to stay purely for numbers reasons. And the FO should value him more than others for the same reason. Ultimately, I think stay is a smart move for both sides.)

5. Which ace should we target in FA?

(My answer: Sevy, Tanaka, and Paxton is a fine front end of the rotation. But WAS and HOU both show the power of SP. Gerrit Cole is a coup de grace type move to make on the Stros. We could always use another ace especially one that denies the Stros that same asset. It's #ColeSZN. (Sorry Greg.))

6. Which bats/BP should we target in FA?

(My answer: none come to mind. I'd love to see Cash have more success dumpster diving in some ways, but another DJ would be awesome.)

7. I love Hicks. Just sayin'.

8. Which of the unlikely stars of 2019 is a guy to retain? Maybin? Tauchman? To me, Urshela is the obvious top choice. We needed a glove at 3rd. But with Miggy coming back...

Feel free to respond or add your own thoughts or reactions.

It's over. But it was a fun team to watch. They had a savage run and Gardy gave us some comic relief for the bad umping we endured.

Onward and upward to 2020. And until then, go Nats.
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Very simple what went wrong in the ALCS...  
mstyles22.0 : 10/21/2019 2:27 am : link
1) Houston got a FEW more hits with men on base. They left a small army on base too. Bregman, probably their 2nd best hitter, had a below-average series. They hit three 3-run homers and the Yankees couldn’t match them.

2) Houston has 1-more bonafide ace/playoff bulldog starter. Yankees had to go to the pen a few too many times and when they bullpen game cane, the Yankees were gassed and Houston’s guys were rested. And don’t get me wrong, I thought the Yankees pen still didn’t a great job. But they had nothing left.

Iconically it was the Yanks most rested, and best bullpen pitcher that gave up the winning hit. It happens. If the Yanks come thru in the first inning of Game 5, they might still be playing Game 7 right now...

As for next year, I’d get rid of EE, wouldn’t pursue Gardy and bring back Gio. We’re stuck with Stanton.

Gio’s glove is too good and he finally showed up and had an impactful game last night. I do love Andujars bat and hitting approach, so I’m curious as to what they do with him.

And while I wouldn’t rush to bring Gardy back, I’m also not thrilled about the idea of Frazier bring the front runner replacement.
Simple  
Tuckrule : 10/21/2019 5:56 am : link
Go out and get an ace( cole)

Let Didi walk if price is too high

If chap opts out and wants too much let him walk

Move DJ to second extend him. Torres to SS

Edwin goes- welcome back miggy

Miggy and urshela fight it out for 3B

Need to find a lefty hitting 1B to platoon with voit
(NOT GREG BIRD)
I doubt we  
giants_10_88 : 10/21/2019 5:58 am : link
get Cole. Not this current regime's MO.
Blank check for Cole  
robbieballs2003 : 10/21/2019 6:05 am : link
Everything else is secondary.

But the next most important man is Chapman. Britton is too scary. He had good numbers this year but too many games become a roller coaster with him on the mound and if anybody feels comfortable with Britton's slider and Sanchez's glove in a tight game I would like to have what you are smoking.

As much as I like Didi he just isn't a top priority because of our other glaring needs a d doubt we can fit him in under the Yanks budget.

I love Gardner but his time has passed. Time to move on. Tauchman showed a lot this year. The Yanks have had plenty of success over the last couple of years finding backup OF.

Andujar needs to be a trade chip to improve the team. I am fine with Urshela at 3B because of his glove. Andujar can net us a better player in a trade.

We need more professional hitters that can adjust like LeMahieu that don't become black holes with trying to crush the ball. We need guys that are going to put the bat on the ball.
RE: I doubt we  
robbieballs2003 : 10/21/2019 6:06 am : link
In comment 14637971 giants_10_88 said:
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get Cole. Not this current regime's MO.


Why? They have wanted Cole for a long time.
Sorry,  
robbieballs2003 : 10/21/2019 6:08 am : link
I meant Britton's sinker not slider.
Agree  
steviej : 10/21/2019 6:09 am : link
On Didi has to b team friendly deal. I don’t think Cole signs here he’s from the west coast I say its either the Angels or he stays in Houston. Do u think if we have German we win series or get to the 7th game? Unfortunately we’re stuck with Stanton . B Cashman as good as GM he is I think he really blew it not signing Corbin .
Thanks adamg for starting  
section125 : 10/21/2019 7:06 am : link
this. I was about to do the same now that everyone has cooled a bit.

They go to a 26 man roster next year, right?

I agree Didi will be allowed to explore FA as will Gardy. I think Cashman looks to stay young and inexpensive where they can. Encarnacion was brought in to wail away in the playoffs and failed. At $20 mill, he will not be picked up.

SP - Severino, Paxton, Tanaka and Montgomery. Deivi Garcia is close, and Happ. Expect Happ as 6th Starter and long relief as they phase him out. I do expect one more starter from somewhere.
Big question - Cole. Cole will take $30+ mill per and expect him to get 8-10 years. Do not forget the Astros may re-sign him. Chances of him being a Yankee, IMV, 10%. He has shunned them and I do not think Hal wants to spend that money.
So, expect Cash to look elsewhere and stay with Sevy and Paxton at the top.
BP - Chapman has an opt out which I think he will exercise.
Betances - if Chapman goes, unless the doctors think Dellin is breaking down, he will be re-signed. I think it will be one or the other or neither, but not both. I think having both is too much money in the BP. I think with Britton, Green and Ottavino they have choices for closer other than Chapman or Betances. They have great pieces for the rest of the pen: Holder, Heller, Cessa, Loaisiga, Lyons. FWIW, both Cessa and Loaisiga have Green type stuff or better and they need just a touch more control.

IF:
I too believe Didi will be allowed to sign elsewhere and they go with Torres and Estrada at SS. Urshela is no flash in the pan and stays. DJLM gets extended and plays 2nd. Voit is no joke. He works extremely hard, will be motivated after being off the ALCS roster. I expect the hernia to be resolved, and would not be surprised to see him leaner come spring. Andujar's bat is for real. I expect to see him at 3rd and 1st. Estrada can play and he can play almost anywhere well. He handles the bat too.
Out of ST - Urshela, Torres, Estrada, DJLM, Voit, Andujar.

Catcher:
Sanchez and Higgy. I think Romine will sign elsewhere and leave. His one big chance at starter and some money. Higgy is ok, but would not be surprised if the Yanks look for a backup.

OF:
Hicks, Judge and Tauchman. Tauchman is a younger version of Gardy with a stronger arm and more power. He is almost as good in the field, almost as good on the bases.
Stanton, hmmm. If Cashman could trade him to the Dodgers or Angels, he would. If he cannot be traded, he will return as LF and DH.
Maybin has a chance to be resigned.
Tyler Wade actually started to hit at the end of the year. If he isn't used for trade bait, do not sleep on him as he is the ultimate utility player. If he could bat .240/.250 he'd be kept.
Frazier will be gone for whatever they can get for him. He just does not fit and his fielding is atrocious.

So my speculation:
SP - Severino, Paxton, Tanaka, Montgomery, Happ, TBD (6)

BP - Britton, Ottavino, Green, Loaisiga, Cessa, Heller/Holder, (Betances/Chapman - one or the other)(7)
(13)

IF:
Urshela, Torres, Estrada, DJLM, Voit, Andujar (6)

OF:
Judge, Hicks, Tauchman, Stanton, Wade (5)

C:
Sanchez, Higashioka.(2)

Speculation - I expect that they will look for a backup catcher, and a starting pitcher that can be traded for because I think Cole will stay in Houston.

I expect Frazier to be traded for anything useful as Cash will look to restock the Minors. I think that Cashman likes where he is and if he can steal a SP will do so, but other than that, he waits until late ST or the trade deadline for a big starter.



RE: Blank check for Cole  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/21/2019 7:09 am : link
In comment 14637975 robbieballs2003 said:
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Andujar needs to be a trade chip to improve the team. I am fine with Urshela at 3B because of his glove. Andujar can net us a better player in a trade.



Way too small of a sample size to just hand Urshela a starting position. I like him too, but the Yankees can't simply assume that a guy who never showed anything close to this in his previous 500 ML ABs will perform close to this level again.
RE: RE: Blank check for Cole  
section125 : 10/21/2019 7:21 am : link
In comment 14638009 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Andujar needs to be a trade chip to improve the team. I am fine with Urshela at 3B because of his glove. Andujar can net us a better player in a trade.





Way too small of a sample size to just hand Urshela a starting position. I like him too, but the Yankees can't simply assume that a guy who never showed anything close to this in his previous 500 ML ABs will perform close to this level again.


You seem to forget that Andujar is in the same boat sample size wise...and Urshela's glove has never been bad. Urshela's glove is real. He may not be a .300 ba/20 HR guy, but he is not far from it. I think what we saw of him this year is what he is.
RE: RE: RE: Blank check for Cole  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/21/2019 7:31 am : link
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You seem to forget that Andujar is in the same boat sample size wise...and Urshela's glove has never been bad. Urshela's glove is real. He may not be a .300 ba/20 HR guy, but he is not far from it. I think what we saw of him this year is what he is.


Not the same thing. Andujar's minor league numbers are superior to Urshela's at the same age. Andujar accomplished what he did as a rookie at the age of 23 with barely any previous ML exposure. Urshela was 4 years older with 500 uninspiring PAs in the majors. While anything is possible with these two players, I don't know if I want to guarantee Urshela a starting position based on a .349 BABIP he might never repeat. If he earns the job, great. But I'm not interested in handing it to him or getting rid of Andujar beforehand.
Here are the offseason moves I want  
superspynyg : 10/21/2019 7:39 am : link
Buy out EE. He has a 5 mil buy out. We save like 15 mil.
Our line up is good enough with out him at DH.

2nd and I will shout it to make my point even more clear and annoying..

SIGN GARRETT COLE TO A HUGE DEAL!!! I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH IT COSTS!!!
8 yrs 300 mil...fine. Player opt out after 4. That's around 37.5 mil a year. Great.

Let Gardner walk. I say go into next year with Judge Hicks,Stanton,Frazier and Maybin as our OFs.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Blank check for Cole  
section125 : 10/21/2019 7:40 am : link
In comment 14638035 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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You seem to forget that Andujar is in the same boat sample size wise...and Urshela's glove has never been bad. Urshela's glove is real. He may not be a .300 ba/20 HR guy, but he is not far from it. I think what we saw of him this year is what he is.



Not the same thing. Andujar's minor league numbers are superior to Urshela's at the same age. Andujar accomplished what he did as a rookie at the age of 23 with barely any previous ML exposure. Urshela was 4 years older with 500 uninspiring PAs in the majors. While anything is possible with these two players, I don't know if I want to guarantee Urshela a starting position based on a .349 BABIP he might never repeat. If he earns the job, great. But I'm not interested in handing it to him or getting rid of Andujar beforehand.


Fair point on Andujar's MiLB record. But he will never touch Urshela's fielding, never. Also, Urshela had a flaw in his swing that the Yanks were able to correct. I do think that the Yanks need Andujar's bat but they also need Urshela's fielding which is stellar. As I said, I would not expect Urshela's offensive numbers to stay that high, but .280/.350 OBP/ 20 HRs is not unreasonable. He has a very good approach at the plate that is repeatable.
If Andujar can learn 1st base, it would be huge. IIRC, his problem was mainly throwing and he has limited range. He catches what he reaches, so 1st would be ideal for him.
Section  
adamg : 10/21/2019 7:56 am : link
Don't forget German. He could be #6
I would let Gardy walk and give Tauchman a legitimate chance  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/21/2019 7:56 am : link
to make the position his. He's really old for a "kid", but his minor league numbers have always been good and he showed exceptional plate discipline, base-running, and defense in the Majors. Stanton will be the back-up option while primarily playing DH from now on. I like Clint Frazier more than most and would hate to just give him away. Maybin is an option only to fill a bench role if needed.
RE: Section  
section125 : 10/21/2019 7:58 am : link
In comment 14638067 adamg said:
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Don't forget German. He could be #6


Out of sight, out of mind. Yes, I forgot him and I do not know what he did(how violent) or how the league suspends him.
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adamg : 10/21/2019 8:01 am : link
In comment 14638071 section125 said:
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Don't forget German. He could be #6



Out of sight, out of mind. Yes, I forgot him and I do not know what he did(how violent) or how the league suspends him.


Ohhh. I forgot about that.
RE: I would let Gardy walk and give Tauchman a legitimate chance  
section125 : 10/21/2019 8:02 am : link
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to make the position his. He's really old for a "kid", but his minor league numbers have always been good and he showed exceptional plate discipline, base-running, and defense in the Majors. Stanton will be the back-up option while primarily playing DH from now on. I like Clint Frazier more than most and would hate to just give him away. Maybin is an option only to fill a bench role if needed.


Frazier has offensive talent, but where do you see him fitting. He seems to be the odd man out, even in the clubhouse...He has a bat with power and probably near .300 BA, speed and an arm but until his defense improves what can he play? He was a 3rd baseman. Maybe he can play 1st?
I think it might take  
Carson53 : 10/21/2019 8:09 am : link
about a 200 mill. deal to land Cole, heard Boras is his agent. Buy out EE for 5 mill. too many DH types around here already, and failed miserably against the 'Stros.
I am ambivalent on Didi, good guy, just offer him the qualifying offer of about 18 mill., that's all I would do. I just think he has flaws with his approach at the plate,and certain numbers like OBP, and OBP+ are never going to be high in his case. You know he rarely walks with his approach. I think they may have to bring Gardy back, because you can't trust that Hicks' elbow is going to hold up, it's possible that he needs TJS next season, just don't know about him? I guess Tauchman could play out there, but he is better as a corner outfielder.
I wouldn't be that excited about Higgy as the BUC, but
Romine might get a decent deal somewhere else where he can possibly share duties with another catcher.
Higgy strikes out too much for my blood, and doesn't have a very good arm behind the plate. We'll see what happens there. Maybin helped out, but they don't have room for him, unless they don't bring back Gardy?
I would let Chapman walk he if he opts out, or try to add a year to his current deal, before the opt out date. That's as far as I would go. If he opts out, sign Betances to a one year deal only. From what I read, he is not having surgery on his Achilles, so...
i have been saying this from the beginning. SP wins the postseason  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/21/2019 8:13 am : link
sorry but Cole needs to be given a blank check. He is a monster SP and has shown he can silence AL batters.
German  
Carson53 : 10/21/2019 8:16 am : link
I am just estimating here, would be looking at about a
20 game suspension. I recall Steven Wright had that a few years ago with a similar situation, and German was already
'docked' for the postseason. There was another player, can't recall the name, who got about 15 games not long ago.
I think Addison Russell got 40 games last year.

Unless something shows up on a video, that would be my estimation I am thinking.
I would have him as one of my five starters, they could have used him in the postseason.
You really don't know what you are going to get from Monty?
RE: RE: I would let Gardy walk and give Tauchman a legitimate chance  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/21/2019 8:17 am : link
In comment 14638074 section125 said:
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Frazier has offensive talent, but where do you see him fitting. He seems to be the odd man out, even in the clubhouse...He has a bat with power and probably near .300 BA, speed and an arm but until his defense improves what can he play? He was a 3rd baseman. Maybe he can play 1st?


Considering the injury risks with Hicks, Judge, and Stanton, there would probably be a lot of available ABs during the course of a season. I would tell Clint to go to Venezuela (or wherever the heck they play winter league now) and play OF every damn day and try to get better. He was never Alex Gordon out there, but until he got hurt, the Yanks were never afraid to put him in LF. Then I would let him and Tauchman duke it out for LF. I'm not against trading Frazier, but I think he's too talented to simply dump because of "clubhouse issues" or whatever.
RE: i have been saying this from the beginning. SP wins the postseason  
Carson53 : 10/21/2019 8:20 am : link
In comment 14638090 GMAN4LIFE said:
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sorry but Cole needs to be given a blank check. He is a monster SP and has shown he can silence AL batters.
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I would go get him, don't know how the Astros could pay
three starters over 30+ million dollars on one roster.
The only other starter I would consider is MadBum,
I just don't think he is the same guy that he was four
or five years ago. Don't want Wheeler or Ryu.
Things I'd do  
rnargi : 10/21/2019 8:23 am : link
1. No matter the cost, move Stanton.

2. Bye bye, EE, thanks for the regular season help

3. Bye bye, Bird(ie)...no use bringing him in. Trade him or release him.

4. Trade Voit or accept that he'll never be a real difference maker. He's regressed to his mean and he is exactly what he is now, low ceiling, high floor.

5. Gio at third, Miggy at SS, Gleybor at second, and DJLM at 1st. Let Didi go unless he comes in at a steep discount. He's going to be 30, and his slumps are getting longer in duration.

6. Catcher must be addressed. I don't want to hear this crap about Sanchez being unexpendible any longer. He's a minus defender with a plus arm who hits at the Mendoza line with an occasional hot HR streak. I'm not sure he calls a good game, either.

7. Gardner deserves to come back in the role he was supposed to play this season. Judge, Hicks, and Tauchman deserve the outfield spots.

8. If it's true that German is an abusive person towards women, I don't want him back. Everyone deserves a second chance and to prove worthy of that, but let him do it elsewhere.

9. Keep building the staff. Happ is probably not going to get another shot. Mape, Sevy, and Tanaka (not that order) are a good top 3. Find another top three pitcher (preferably top 1).

10. The team lacks speed. It can't bunt. It mostly cannot beat the shift. I don't recall a hit and run all year. In the playoffs, they went station to station instead of first to third way too many times. I know it's all about launch angle and exit velocity these days, but imagine if this team, which had 22 at bats with the tying run on base or at the plate on Saturday, could have manufactured just one run late in game 2, 3 or game 6.

Just my humble opinions. Maybe the game has passed me by.
Cole is probably not resigning with Houston, but I doubt he will do us  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/21/2019 8:25 am : link
any favors either. 8/280M is probably the starting point for Boras.

I don’t think there are any other free agents out there I’d want to sign. Didi, Gardner, EE should be let go, under the new budget constraint they are not the luxury we can afford.

With Cole on board, then we’d have to look within. Stick Andujar at 1B, let Frzazier DH and play Stanton in LF. I’d honestly explore trade for Voit and Tauchman, not much upside and without position, maybe we can get a Juan Then or Luis Gil type in return.

If Hal cheaps out, then we may have to trade Frazier, Andujar and others for a SP. Then we will need to plug holes in the lineup, maybe Didi will be brought back under that circumstance, but nothing more than 3/36M.

I guess we have to stick with Sanchez, but I just wish somebody would get to him and he can take that next step. Still way too many mental lapses.
Gardner will be back with a raise as reward  
shyster : 10/21/2019 8:29 am : link
for his regular season performance. He's the GM's favorite person. That wasn't Boone batting him third.

Tauchman will be on the roster and will get playing time because Hicks will inevitably be injured again.

Stanton will be kept at DH, given his physical issues this year.

Mike Ford could give himself a shot at the 26th spot on the roster with a good spring, or he may have to wait for a Stanton injury. If Ford had gotten EE's at bats in the ALCS, Yanks might still be playing.

Lean towards Didi coming back but that may depend on his willingness to take a friendly deal.

Domingo German's biggest issue for his Yankee future is whether he has put himself on the GM's bad side. To be determined.
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giants_10_88 : 10/21/2019 8:35 am : link
In comment 14637976 robbieballs2003 said:
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get Cole. Not this current regime's MO.


They wanted him when he was cost controlled. Not sure they give him a 300 mil contract.

Why? They have wanted Cole for a long time.
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TheMick7 : 10/21/2019 8:40 am : link
In comment 14637976 robbieballs2003 said:
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get Cole. Not this current regime's MO.



Why? They have wanted Cole for a long time.


Hal! He stated long ago that the Yankees don't need to be over the cap to win. Cashman saw a shiny toy in Stanton & his $$$ is now a huge albatross going forward in FA. Years ago,I'd have said signing Cole is a no-brainer. Today,I believe that them not signing Cole is a no-brainer(And I hope I'm wrong!)!
I love a good story as much as the next guy but had Voit, Tauchman and  
Jim in Hoboken : 10/21/2019 9:04 am : link
Ford played in the postseason they’d have been exposed as well.

Cashman likes to bargain hunt, regardless of need, which is fine but not when it handcuffs your ability to fill deficiencies elsewhere. He also loves his pet projects and hangs onto them too long.

Before the fanboys get into a tizzy, let me say, let’s see what he does this offseason. He needs to deliver a ring or two with this core, there is still time.
RE: RE: i have been saying this from the beginning. SP wins the postseason  
cokeduplt : 10/21/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14638103 Carson53 said:
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sorry but Cole needs to be given a blank check. He is a monster SP and has shown he can silence AL batters.

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I would go get him, don't know how the Astros could pay
three starters over 30+ million dollars on one roster.
The only other starter I would consider is MadBum,
I just don't think he is the same guy that he was four
or five years ago. Don't want Wheeler or Ryu.



If not Cole I would definitely good after Strasburg
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Carson53 : 10/21/2019 9:15 am : link
In comment 14638201 cokeduplt said:
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In comment 14638090 GMAN4LIFE said:


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sorry but Cole needs to be given a blank check. He is a monster SP and has shown he can silence AL batters.

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I would go get him, don't know how the Astros could pay
three starters over 30+ million dollars on one roster.
The only other starter I would consider is MadBum,
I just don't think he is the same guy that he was four
or five years ago. Don't want Wheeler or Ryu.




If not Cole I would definitely good after Strasburg
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I didn't know he was available, does he have an opt out?
Fuck Gerritt Cole  
Greg from LI : 10/21/2019 9:16 am : link
I'd rather beat that piece of shit lying scumbag than have him on my team.
so does anyone know  
bigbluehoya : 10/21/2019 9:19 am : link
what the deal is now with Hicks?

Is TJS still needed/recommended? or just a wait-and-see?

If the docs think that TJS is a likely long-term outcome, I'd rather he just gets it done this week and begin the road to recovery.

One of the most forgotten aspects of this regular season, which we got a stark reminder of in the ALCS, is what a tremendous role he can play in the lineup with the way he grinds counts, gets on base, and can punish mistakes.

RE: Things I'd do  
BigBlue2112 : 10/21/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14638110 rnargi said:
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1. No matter the cost, move Stanton.

2. Bye bye, EE, thanks for the regular season help

3. Bye bye, Bird(ie)...no use bringing him in. Trade him or release him.

4. Trade Voit or accept that he'll never be a real difference maker. He's regressed to his mean and he is exactly what he is now, low ceiling, high floor.

5. Gio at third, Miggy at SS, Gleybor at second, and DJLM at 1st. Let Didi go unless he comes in at a steep discount. He's going to be 30, and his slumps are getting longer in duration.


No one is trading for Stanton. He has an opt out coming up.

Andujar at SS would be a disaster. He couldnt handle fielding 3B. Not going to happen but if you move him and dont sign Didi, Andujar to 1B, DJ to 2B, Gleybar to SS and Gio at 3B.
RE: Things I'd do  
section125 : 10/21/2019 9:30 am : link
In comment 14638110 rnargi said:
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Just my humble opinions. Maybe the game has passed me by.


FWIW, I'll play devil's advocate with you.

1) Stanton, I agree if possible.

2) EE, Agree came for expressed purpose of PS bat. failed

3) Bird, Agree, never as good as expected and hurt all the time

4) Totally disagree on Voit. I expect his fielding will improve some more and he was playing hurt the last half and still had a .380 OBP.

5)Miggy at SS? Typo? No range, strong but decidedly inaccurate arm with slow release. He is 3B maybe, but 1B is his best place besides DH.

6) Sanchez, I actually agree. Over long periods except his rookie season he is bad at the plate. And while his defense has improved, he regressed under pressure in the ALCS. He has to change his batting approach. But no doubt will be starting catcher next season.

7) I think Gardy may be back but would not be surprised if allowed to seek a good deal elsewhere. Love him to death but utterly failed in ALCS.

8) German, I dislike abuse toward women. Did he have one outburst and what was it(physical or verbal? Chapman went berserk and has been ok since. If he has a pattern, good bye.

9) Agree on SP

10) While I agree with your overview of the ALCS, the Astros did marginally better, in fact they beat the Yanks with HRs, not ball placement and shift beaters. No doubt a couple of LeMahieu approach guys would be better but how many DJLMs are there out there?
If you listen to Cashman  
arniefez : 10/21/2019 9:35 am : link
he's pretty transparent. He treats the "cap/budget" as a puzzle assigns a value to each player inside and outside the organization and has a plan A, plan B, plan C and works from one plan to the next as the pieces come off the board.

I think the most interesting thing to watch this winter is if he adjusts his philosophy on what is valuable. We know what he has valued to this point and I think he's been wrong and has been proven wrong.

RE: If you listen to Cashman  
section125 : 10/21/2019 9:38 am : link
In comment 14638258 arniefez said:
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We know what he has valued to this point and I think he's been wrong and has been proven wrong.


What was he wrong on? The majority of his moves are spot on. Yeah he missed a few, every GM does.
RE: so does anyone know  
Carson53 : 10/21/2019 9:41 am : link
In comment 14638219 bigbluehoya said:
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what the deal is now with Hicks?

Is TJS still needed/recommended? or just a wait-and-see?

If the docs think that TJS is a likely long-term outcome, I'd rather he just gets it done this week and begin the road to recovery.

One of the most forgotten aspects of this regular season, which we got a stark reminder of in the ALCS, is what a tremendous role he can play in the lineup with the way he grinds counts, gets on base, and can punish mistakes.
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From what I read, and heard during the games.
What I read was he went to get a second opinion out in
LA with a Dr. Neal ? The guy is a noted specialist
for athletes, with arm or rotator cuff, etc.
He might be a team doctor for the Angels or Dodgers
I thought I read. That guy tells him to take 4 weeks off from throwing, and at this time, doesn't recommend surgery....From what I heard on TV, from Joe Buck I think during a game, Hicks doesn't wait 4 weeks, starts throwing the ball around, and has a tear in his elbow.
He winds up eventually in Tampa. Then he somehow
winds up on the ALCS roster. With something like that,
there is no guarantee that the elbow won't worsen next season, when he is out there throwing every day.
It's really up in air, so to speak.
Or he could play, and it doesn't bother him,
like a Tanaka for example, with his UCL tear in his elbow.
He is still pitching 5 years later, which is surprising to me at least.
RE: Fuck Gerritt Cole  
BleedBlue : 10/21/2019 9:43 am : link
In comment 14638212 Greg from LI said:
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I'd rather beat that piece of shit lying scumbag than have him on my team.



But we won't beat him come playoff time. He has a high K rate and we strike out way too often to beat him with any consistency.

Signing Cole is a double whammy as it takes away from Houston and gives us a true ace who has proven he can get out AL batters in the biggest of moments.
RE: RE: so does anyone know  
section125 : 10/21/2019 9:51 am : link
In comment 14638273 Carson53 said:
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In comment 14638219 bigbluehoya said:


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what the deal is now with Hicks?

Is TJS still needed/recommended? or just a wait-and-see?

If the docs think that TJS is a likely long-term outcome, I'd rather he just gets it done this week and begin the road to recovery.

One of the most forgotten aspects of this regular season, which we got a stark reminder of in the ALCS, is what a tremendous role he can play in the lineup with the way he grinds counts, gets on base, and can punish mistakes.


.

From what I read, and heard during the games.
What I read was he went to get a second opinion out in
LA with a Dr. Neal ? The guy is a noted specialist
for athletes, with arm or rotator cuff, etc.
He might be a team doctor for the Angels or Dodgers
I thought I read. That guy tells him to take 4 weeks off from throwing, and at this time, doesn't recommend surgery....From what I heard on TV, from Joe Buck I think during a game, Hicks doesn't wait 4 weeks, starts throwing the ball around, and has a tear in his elbow.
He winds up eventually in Tampa. Then he somehow
winds up on the ALCS roster. With something like that,
there is no guarantee that the elbow won't worsen next season, when he is out there throwing every day.
It's really up in air, so to speak.
Or he could play, and it doesn't bother him,
like a Tanaka for example, with his UCL tear in his elbow.
He is still pitching 5 years later, which is surprising to me at least.


Hicks did not do further damage to the elbow. Buck's story and Hicks', was after the inflammation did not go down beginning September, he was sent home after seeing the doctors. A couple weeks later a buddy comes by and they start tossing it around - no pain. He ramps up, no pain and sends a video to the trainers. Then he is sent to Tampa.
You maybe right on the tear, I do not remember that, but IIRC they said any further strain COULD cause a tear and that was why he was shutdown the 2nd time.
FWIW, I thought that was the timeline.
RE: RE: RE: so does anyone know  
Carson53 : 10/21/2019 9:57 am : link
In comment 14638309 section125 said:
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In comment 14638273 Carson53 said:


Quote:


In comment 14638219 bigbluehoya said:


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what the deal is now with Hicks?

Is TJS still needed/recommended? or just a wait-and-see?

If the docs think that TJS is a likely long-term outcome, I'd rather he just gets it done this week and begin the road to recovery.

One of the most forgotten aspects of this regular season, which we got a stark reminder of in the ALCS, is what a tremendous role he can play in the lineup with the way he grinds counts, gets on base, and can punish mistakes.


.

From what I read, and heard during the games.
What I read was he went to get a second opinion out in
LA with a Dr. Neal ? The guy is a noted specialist
for athletes, with arm or rotator cuff, etc.
He might be a team doctor for the Angels or Dodgers
I thought I read. That guy tells him to take 4 weeks off from throwing, and at this time, doesn't recommend surgery....From what I heard on TV, from Joe Buck I think during a game, Hicks doesn't wait 4 weeks, starts throwing the ball around, and has a tear in his elbow.
He winds up eventually in Tampa. Then he somehow
winds up on the ALCS roster. With something like that,
there is no guarantee that the elbow won't worsen next season, when he is out there throwing every day.
It's really up in air, so to speak.
Or he could play, and it doesn't bother him,
like a Tanaka for example, with his UCL tear in his elbow.
He is still pitching 5 years later, which is surprising to me at least.



Hicks did not do further damage to the elbow. Buck's story and Hicks', was after the inflammation did not go down beginning September, he was sent home after seeing the doctors. A couple weeks later a buddy comes by and they start tossing it around - no pain. He ramps up, no pain and sends a video to the trainers. Then he is sent to Tampa.
You maybe right on the tear, I do not remember that, but IIRC they said any further strain COULD cause a tear and that was why he was shutdown the 2nd time.
FWIW, I thought that was the timeline.
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I distinctly heard Buck use the word tear a few times.
That part actually surprised me. So don't know where Buck got that from, Hicks? Steve Donahue? Cash? Don't know?
RE: RE: Fuck Gerritt Cole  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/21/2019 9:59 am : link
In comment 14638279 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 14638212 Greg from LI said:


Quote:


I'd rather beat that piece of shit lying scumbag than have him on my team.




But we won't beat him come playoff time. He has a high K rate and we strike out way too often to beat him with any consistency.

Signing Cole is a double whammy as it takes away from Houston and gives us a true ace who has proven he can get out AL batters in the biggest of moments.


this and this...

RE: RE: RE: RE: so does anyone know  
section125 : 10/21/2019 10:03 am : link
In comment 14638340 Carson53 said:
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I distinctly heard Buck use the word tear a few times.
That part actually surprised me. So don't know where Buck got that from, Hicks? Steve Donahue? Cash? Don't know?


Could be, as I am not certain. Can't say I focused in on Hicks since he had been shut down. But I believe it was that any more pressure on the ligament could/would cause a tear. I don't see anyway the Yanks let him play with a tear close to needing TJS. Tanaka's was minimal. You can build muscle around the ligament to strengthen it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: so does anyone know  
Carson53 : 10/21/2019 10:09 am : link
In comment 14638364 section125 said:
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In comment 14638340 Carson53 said:


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I distinctly heard Buck use the word tear a few times.
That part actually surprised me. So don't know where Buck got that from, Hicks? Steve Donahue? Cash? Don't know?



Could be, as I am not certain. Can't say I focused in on Hicks since he had been shut down. But I believe it was that any more pressure on the ligament could/would cause a tear. I don't see anyway the Yanks let him play with a tear close to needing TJS. Tanaka's was minimal. You can build muscle around the ligament to strengthen it.


I am talking about moving forward with Hicks, that's how I presented to the other poster who asked.
What is could be? I heard it, not a could be,
geez. If somebody said they heard them, just take them at face value. It's also not that minimal in a pitchers' case, because most times, it's TJS.
It's been fortuitous for him so far.
section125  
arniefez : 10/21/2019 10:11 am : link
It's over your head.
RE: section125  
Carson53 : 10/21/2019 10:13 am : link
In comment 14638391 arniefez said:
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It's over your head.
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LOL, the levity never ceases on BBI.
RE: section125  
section125 : 10/21/2019 10:26 am : link
In comment 14638391 arniefez said:
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It's over your head.


Yeah, ok, WTH that means. Maybe you can explain instead of throwing out generalities. If you disagree with Cashman's choices, that is fine, but at least say what he should do better.
It's Randal, man  
Greg from LI : 10/21/2019 10:26 am : link
Potshots is what he does
I think they should go hard after Cole...  
Milton : 10/21/2019 10:30 am : link
...but I'm not optimistic they come out on top in that sweepstakes.

Agree with those who say move on from Didi, Encarnacion, and Gardner. Move Gleybar to SS and DJ to 2B.

I'm a believer in Urshela, but would not part with Andujar. Andujar is a natural hitter. He can be the every day DH and also see time at 3B and maybe 1B/RF as well.

Domingo German and Frazier can top the list of trade bait and maybe Loaisiga too.

I think they need to grin and bear it with Stanton as the every day LF and part-time DH. Tauchman can be the 4th OF. Given Stanton's and Hicks's injury histories (Judge too kind of), he will see plenty of action.

At 1B, Voit is not ideal, but worth keeping around. His BA took a beating this year, but his OBP held up okay. I like Ford (and his lefty bat) as part of a platoon there. If they don't believe in Ford, they should trade him because his trade value may never be better than it is right now.

Don't sleep on Jordan Montgomery as the 5th starter. He could come back stronger than he left us.
at the end of the day, the guys that hit in the postseason  
hitdog42 : 10/21/2019 10:31 am : link
had the right approach--- balls to right and right center... with power as well. Gleybar, DJ, Urshela at times

the guys that didn't do that sucked... and were why we lost the series. that is Sanchez, EE, Stanton, Judge unfortunately.

if the players cant adapt in the postseason away from launch baseball... that is a problem.

They missed Betances a ton as well- first time it showed up massively
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