If there were a coaching change

there are like 5 threads on this already

if I will want what I wish for, but I'd like to get a defensive-minded HC who is young and brings a lot of energy. But, I don't want to chase the next Sean McVay or I'd fear we'd end up with Zac Taylor so the young, offensive guy is a crapshoot.

I would prefer to not have a retread or a Pats assistant either.

If we really want to go out of the box, give me Dino Babers.....

In comment 14638662 Justlurking said:

Quote:

there are like 5 threads on this already

Yep

A strong defensive coach. No Patriots coordinators.

He's still only 55 years old, so he's not a dinosaur, yet has the experience and pedigree to handle New York. In a 12 year career in Green Bay he only finished less than 2nd twice (6 division championships). He won a superbowl and has a winning record in both the regular season and the postseason. He was let go because of a poor relationship with his quarterback - not an inability to coach. I think he'd be great for Daniel Jones.

QB covered up a lot of his coaching issues.

I don't want any part of him.

There were rumors for many years about his coaching abilities. and they weren't just being started by Rodgers.

In comment 14638676 Greg from LI said:

Quote:

A strong defensive coach. No Patriots coordinators.

Curious(nothing more), would you have been ok with Patricia?

wouldn't have been. Pats coordinators are a big no from me

Bill Belichick runs the Patriots' defense. Their DCs have been mere figureheads.

The only Patriots coach I'd want is the man himself.

Chase Blackburn and Dan Campbell.

I find both very intriguing.

I really wanted Shurmur to be the guy.

In comment 14638684 FatMan in Charlotte said:

Quote:

There were rumors for many years about his coaching abilities. and they weren't just being started by Rodgers.

People just flat-out questioned his intelligence

Is intriguing to me.

In comment 14638672 FatMan in Charlotte said:

Quote:

if I will want what I wish for, but I'd like to get a defensive-minded HC who is young and brings a lot of energy. But, I don't want to chase the next Sean McVay or I'd fear we'd end up with Zac Taylor so the young, offensive guy is a crapshoot. I would prefer to not have a retread or a Pats assistant either. If we really want to go out of the box, give me Dino Babers.....

I was on the Babers train for awhile but he’s been rough this year.

I’d drop the bag on Lincoln Riley

but I'd see if those rumors about Saban supposedly wanting NY badly were true.

With that said I would bring Matt Rhule in for an interview.

Urban Meyer ?

In comment 14638813 NikkiMac said:

Quote:

Urban Meyer ?

That would go against everything they claimed about culture

In comment 14638813 NikkiMac said:

Quote:

Urban Meyer ?

Not a chance on Meyer.

Saban isn't leaving. And he's 66/67 y/o.

James Franklin or Lincoln Riley

.

You don't hear about him because people don't talk about the Colts, but he did a great job with the Cowboys and the Colts, and deserves a close look, especially if you want a Defensive guy:

Matt Eberflus Wikipedia Page

In comment 14638895 jeff57 said:

Quote:

.

Fuck no. Why? WHY Harbaugh?

he'd probably be #1 on my list. Find me another recent Super Bowl winner.

not make it through the bye week. If worse case scenario occurs and the Giants are 2-8 at the bye, why keep him around? Start your coaching search earlier than others. Everyone threw Eli under the bus for being the problem, Jones has played 5 games and the issues are the same as the first 2 games. Its clear that the HC does not have a feel for the game. He lacks creativity and shrinks in the pressure of the press.

He didn't go for it on 4th and 3 vs the Pats and he got mocked, yesterday he goes for it on 4th and 15 instead of punting for field position and he's taking heat. His post game presser is pathetic.

I'd personally like someone younger with energy and vision. Someone like McVay or Kingsbury

We wound up with Ben McAdoo because ownership was looking for something different than Coughlin

Then wound up with Shurmur because they were looking for different than McAdoo

How about we just pick the best candidate next time and not worry about what "type" they are...

In comment 14638919 Anakim said:

Quote:

In comment 14638895 jeff57 said: Quote: . Fuck no. Why? WHY Harbaugh?

34-19-1 NFL coaching record

Quote:

don’t think John Mars will make a change but who knows

Now, I'm not so sure. If the Giants' season stays on the course it's currently on and they finish with 4 wins, I think Gettleman is able to convince Mara that a coaching change is necessary. Gettleman is invested here too, and because he was suggested to Mara by Accorsi, I'm sure his arguments that Shurmur is holding preventing his roster from realizing its potential will be heeded.

I still want Robert Saleh, the 9ers coordinator.

the GOAT head coach, shouldn't we be able to see a bunch of players and coaches that have learned a lot from their experience with Bill? It seems like the info BB knows does not impart wisdom to anyone who serves under him. Very strange.

or a young NFL assistant first timer who can run an entire organization. No retreads, no Pats guys, no 2019 Super Bowl/Championship game OCs or DCs.

The NFL is as bad at identifying good HCs as they are at drafting players. It's not easy to find the right guy. But it's easy to see the Giants don't have him now. Another year is just going to make it worse.

In comment 14639024 jeff57 said:

Quote:

In comment 14638919 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14638895 jeff57 said: Quote: . Fuck no. Why? WHY Harbaugh? 34-19-1 NFL coaching record

He's been total ass at Michigan. Fuck no to Harbaugh

In comment 14638933 jestersdead said:

Quote:

I'd personally like someone younger with energy and vision. Someone like McVay or Kingsbury

Needless to say, that's EXTREMELY risky and very un-Giants-like. If that's what you want, the first name that comes to mind is Kellen Moore.

we'll see that Kingsbury doesn't have great vision.

He has a gimmicky offense and not a very good one, to boot.

In comment 14638913 JohnF said:

Quote:

You don't hear about him because people don't talk about the Colts, but he did a great job with the Cowboys and the Colts, and deserves a close look, especially if you want a Defensive guy: Matt Eberflus Wikipedia Page

I’d definitely be interested

Either way it is very important that they bring in a very good OC. I would target Jay Gruden as OC and Bill Callahan as the OL coach.

Kris Richard is one of the DC's I like as a potential option for HC especially if he brings Rod Marinelli over as his DC. Jason Garrett is more than likely going to be fired at season's end. That would free up his staff and the Giants would be crazy not to make a run at Marinelli. Marinelli has done a masterful job in Dallas.

Honestly the only coach I would want retained is Thomas McGaughey. He's done a very good job here, the special teams have been better than any season under Quinn.

In comment 14638776 jcn56 said:

Quote:

but I'd see if those rumors about Saban supposedly wanting NY badly were true.

He was my first choice before Shurmur and would be my first choice after.

The guy would cure a lot of ills.