First, I want to be clear, I am happy we have Daniel Jones. I was happy we picked a QB at 6 and I am hopeful by what we have seen overall, so far.
But as I said on another post, it is conceivable the Giants could have gotten two firsts for their 2018 #2 and gotten Lamar Jackson and Nick Chubb. And then in 2019 gotten Josh Allen.
Looking in hindsight I think:
Lamar Jackson, Nick Chubb, Josh Allen & gt; Barkley and Jones.
Do you agree? Of course it requires going all-in remaking the team to suit Lamar's strengths. But I think most objective observers would agree with me.
Find someone who can scheme with the talent we have and win.
This point should not be diminished. All of the debates over who we should have taken... with this staff, I'm convinced they're all moot. I suppose you could piece together the absolute perfect FA acquisitions and draft picks and argue it might be enough to overcome Shurmur, but anything less and I'm sure the Giants would still be embarrassing.
For the 2018 and 2019 draft, any of these combinations made more sense with the first round picks than QB and RB:
QB, OL, DE, Edge/LB, and, maybe Corner.
Well wait a second... ANY combination? Or any combination of QB plus? Because we all know that you didn't want Eli here anymore. So QB had to be part of the combo, no?
Ideally, yes. But I thought there was good QB value in some later rounds, too.
The Barkley debate actually bothers me because I am lifelong PSU fan. And I knew about him in high school because his school, Whitehall/PA (produced Matt Millen and Dan Koppen), used to play my high school, Phillipsburg/NJ, when both teams played in the East Penn Conference a long time ago. It was a conference rich in football talent.
My dad told me about him several years ago when he saw SB play against Easton HS. He said he was an absolute freak.
Look, it's just a philosophical difference. I despise the cap model. Wish it was gone or softer. But with it here, you want to get the best value for that cap dollar. And right now RB is not the best value because it's a position that is abundant in supply.
Find someone who can scheme with the talent we have and win.
we're just having a football talk. We know we're at where we're at. Having said that, Barkley does indeed have tremendous talent. Jones is a giant question mark. He has shown brilliant flashes. But he has been awful the last three games.
And swap Jackson and Jones and the teams are in the same position.
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is Darnold + Nick Bosa. Not because I think Darnold is better than Jones but Bosa is just that good.
We had no shot at Bosa
We probably finsih with a worse record if we were playing Darnold all year instead of Barkey. After all the Jets with Darnold finished 3rd.
Enjoy the Bosa's for the limited time their muscles are able to stay secured to bone...
Enjoy the Bosa's for the limited time their muscles are able to stay secured to bone...
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