he never does. He's passed on trading for every high profile player that's been moved unless it's a salary dump even if the Yankees don't need the player. Stanton being the latest example.
And one of the greatest SS to ever play this game.
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He is a free agent after the 2021 season, and his tab for the next two years will be $43 million-ish or more, an amount that does not work for Cleveland.
$43M for the next two years of Lindor is a bargain. He's had 40 2B and 30 HR the last three years. The problem is you would want to extend the years past two to protect against injury and the investment.
The Indians have won more than 90 games the past 4 years, and finished second this year behind a 101-win Minnesota team. Cleveland can just revisit this at the 2020 deadline if Lindor really is intent on leaving via Free Agency. They have Brayan Rocchio and Tyler Freeman as a couple of good SS prospects, but they won't replace Lindor internally or through trade. They definitely look like AL Central favorites for the next two years with him.
Gerrit Cole wants to be a Yankee. I've talked to him a few times. The Angels are a great fit and will drive up the price, but the Yankees should get him in the end.
he never does. He's passed on trading for every high profile player that's been moved unless it's a salary dump even if the Yankees don't need the player. Stanton being the latest example.
Insidious pest...Hal won't pay the price. Cashman works for Hal Steinbrenner. If Hal says spending limit is $208, then that is what it is.
BTW how did Bosox $240+ mill rosters do this year? How did the Astros and Nationals $168 mill rosters do?
he never does. He's passed on trading for every high profile player that's been moved unless it's a salary dump even if the Yankees don't need the player. Stanton being the latest example.
Insidious pest...Hal won't pay the price. Cashman works for Hal Steinbrenner. If Hal says spending limit is $208, then that is what it is.
BTW how did Bosox $240+ mill rosters do this year? How did the Astros and Nationals $168 mill rosters do?
Spending isn't the issue. Just the allocation of resources. We have too mcuh money tied up in guys like Stanton when we oculd have used that for Cole.
he never does. He's passed on trading for every high profile player that's been moved unless it's a salary dump even if the Yankees don't need the player. Stanton being the latest example.
Insidious pest...Hal won't pay the price. Cashman works for Hal Steinbrenner. If Hal says spending limit is $208, then that is what it is.
BTW how did Bosox $240+ mill rosters do this year? How did the Astros and Nationals $168 mill rosters do?
Spending isn't the issue. Just the allocation of resources. We have too mcuh money tied up in guys like Stanton when we oculd have used that for Cole.
Yeah and Ellsbury. Stanton was an ok thing at the time. It was an eye opener, but Stanton was just MVP with 59 HRs. People knew Cole was good, but not this good. And what is to say he doesn't regress out of Houston and that becomes an albatross contract.
I'm in the no long term contracts group. They are debilitating because they rarely work out. If they get you to two or three WS, ok you can eat the remainder. But ones like Ellsbury never made sense from the get go. Even Stanton only gets him to 35 or so which is not awful.
GM can’t survive when performance doesn’t match the payroll. And that was just for one year?!?!
I hated the Stanton trade at the time, and that was before the abominable 2019 season for him. When is the Ellsbury contract off the books again?
I am not absolutely for signing Cole, but we can’t go into next season with the same cast and hope for Loaisiga, Montgomery to develop or Garcia and King to flash. Obviously I am nitpicking, we are not the Mets after all, but something needs to be done for us to dethrone Houston. For those who insist the roster, coaching staff, minor league system are all fine, so what gives? How come Houston has beat us 3 out of the last 5 playoffs?
Unfortunately, Stanton's has 8 more. Another albatross. Hoping they can trade Happ by eating some of the money. If Chapman opts out, let him walk. Let Didi walk and Gardner too. Allocate that money for starting pitching
he never does. He's passed on trading for every high profile player that's been moved unless it's a salary dump even if the Yankees don't need the player. Stanton being the latest example.
Insidious pest...Hal won't pay the price. Cashman works for Hal Steinbrenner. If Hal says spending limit is $208, then that is what it is.
BTW how did Bosox $240+ mill rosters do this year? How did the Astros and Nationals $168 mill rosters do?
This wasn't the point of your post, but just to make sure confusion doesn't spiral -- indications are that the binding constraint on NYY payroll will be the $228M second level of the luxury tax.
If it's the first $208M level, any idea of adding players can be forgotten and we can talk about not only who to let walk, but whose contracts we are going to be shipping out.
It was more his father than him. I think he wanted to sign, but the family was already well off and his father really wanted him to go to college and was the one who steered him to UCLA ultimately
RE: Well, Dombrowski is gone. After delivering WS rings recently, even a Â
Obviously I am nitpicking, we are not the Mets after all, but something needs to be done for us to dethrone Houston. For those who insist the roster, coaching staff, minor league system are all fine, so what gives? How come Houston has beat us 3 out of the last 5 playoffs?
Maybe the Yanks are their Twins?
Did you know Houston's payroll is $50 mill less than the Yankees?
While no one knows what a player like Montgomery brings, a good 4th starter means less work for the BP.
IDK, Saverino, Paxton, Tanaka and Montgomery is a pretty decent SP staff.
Is it as good as Cole, Verlander and Greinke or Scherzer, Strasburg? IDK, but it is not far behind.
I've said all along, I don't even hate him for going to UCLA Â
I hate him for not telling the Yankees before the draft, "Look, I am absolutely going to college. Do not draft me. Under no circumstances, for no amount of money, will I sign this year." That's all he had to do. Instead, they told Cashman that they were open to negotiation......and then reneged and wouldn't even pick up the phone when he called.
That's why I hold a grudge. They misled Cashman.
It's almost as if tanking for five seasons or so leads to more talent Â
coming up through the system. Who could have known?
This is true and a lot of their guys are still on reduced contracts to keep the payroll down for now. But you have to give them credit for their draft choices. Just because you draft high does not mean you pick the right guys.
Their scouting and player development is aces, but they intentionally avoid winning games for years for a reason. I don't think it's sour grapes to insist that people acknowledge that fact.
Their scouting and player development is aces, but they intentionally avoid winning games for years for a reason. I don't think it's sour grapes to insist that people acknowledge that fact.
Nope, you are correct. No argument from me. Miami is doing the same thing right now. And there are others, especially in the AL...monkey see, monkey do baseball.
For all the justifiable praise the Astros receive for their work with pitchers.....they haven't developed a starter since Dallas Keuchel. Apparently the black magic only works on veterans like Verlander, Morton, and Colce.
I do hope he watches the Nats/Astros games and learns something from them (about pitching especially). The figure out how to jigger the analytics to identify who plays best in clutch moments of games. Finally do something to better train hitters to identify what is being thrown at them and where it will go right out of the hand of the pitcher as the ball is released. There you go!
For all the justifiable praise the Astros receive for their work with pitchers.....they haven't developed a starter since Dallas Keuchel. Apparently the black magic only works on veterans like Verlander, Morton, and Colce.
There are not many teams that identify and develop their own pitchers on a consistent basis. Tampa and the Mets are good. Who else?
RE: It's almost as if tanking for five seasons or so leads to more talent Â
coming up through the system. Who could have known?
It also helps to acquire 3 aces seasons in a row at the deadline for a pittance. Much, much less than teams wanted from the Yankees. It’s amazing that teams are watching what is going on and still feel like they’d rather make a shit deal with the small market, underdog Astros than deal with the big bad Yankees.
RE: RE: It's almost as if tanking for five seasons or so leads to more talent Â
coming up through the system. Who could have known?
It also helps to acquire 3 aces seasons in a row at the deadline for a pittance. Much, much less than teams wanted from the Yankees. It’s amazing that teams are watching what is going on and still feel like they’d rather make a shit deal with the small market, underdog Astros than deal with the big bad Yankees.
haha, small market Houston....
RE: RE: RE: It's almost as if tanking for five seasons or so leads to more talent Â
coming up through the system. Who could have known?
It also helps to acquire 3 aces seasons in a row at the deadline for a pittance. Much, much less than teams wanted from the Yankees. It’s amazing that teams are watching what is going on and still feel like they’d rather make a shit deal with the small market, underdog Astros than deal with the big bad Yankees.
It's tough... I think after the loss to the Red Sox in '18, it was very, very clear that we lacked situational hitting prowess and needed to prioritize constructing a lineup that would perform better with runners on.
We did that - quite well, I may add. NYY were the the best (if not, right there IIRC) situational hitting team in the majors through the course of the regular season.
What sucks, is that in a playoff series, that can disappear. Great pitchers can neutralize or limit you there. You get less opportunities against starters on fumes or back end relievers to 'do damage' - we saw it happen against Houston. So many times we'd get runners on, in scoring position... and fail to ultimately drive them in.
Good pitching tends to overpower good hitting in the postseason.
If it's me, I am doing what it takes to sign Gerrit Cole. I don't care what it costs, I think that's a guy the Yankees need to go 'old school' on and just buy. Hal probably won't want to go that route... so I'm not expecting it. But, that's what I would do.
Our pitching isn't in terrible shape, but I think we need a true #1 to go with Paxton and Severino. Paxton is a prototypical #2 starter on a good team, IMO. Severino can be anything from an ace to a 3rd starter... we've seen his performance spectrum kind of vary widely.
If they need to move some players, make some trades, do some maneuvering... so be it. But, I don't think this roster needs a ton of help otherwise. We just didn't have the starting pitching to really hold up against the Astros this year. You could feel it and it was helpless.
No, pitching didn't lose the series for the Yankees, but it won the series for the Astros.
Houston's hitters certainly didn't win that series. The difference between us and them is that they came up with the timely hits when we couldn't. Part of that means crediting their pitchers for holding a lineup that was so good situationally all year long in check.
Maybe it's easier to just say the Yankees bats fell silent or sucked or whatever... but sometimes the opponent deserves some credit too.
The Yanks were far too reliant on their bullpen this postseason. Smoltz was insufferable the entire series; but one of the points he made that he was right on is that we really didn't have much margin for error with this strategy. If we got into a spot where a couple of starters didn't have it or didn't give us length, it was going to be tough to navigate so many bullpen innings - especially with a scheduled bullpen game in place of a starter to begin with.
I got a sinking feeling after we had to bring Happ into Game 2. Right before we even lost that game, I felt like that was where the series was going to shift... it felt like they were about to start to get us. Once you've got JA Happ pitching in a crucial spot like that - you're got. We were got.
Games 1 and 5 were pretty much how we had it drawn up... but it was tough to win a 7 game series that way given the state of the staff.
I don't know - I think this lineup is mostly good enough with what's here. We'll have decisions to make on guys like Andujar and Gardner. I really feel like Stanton is just not going to work out here... I don't think we really have much of an avenue to offload him this winter. Especially with his value so low and his contract so heavy.
They should focus on term with guys like Torres and Judge... perhaps they can tack on a couple of years for LeMahieu if they believe this is sustainable here. There's also Encarnacion. I think Bird is just a non factor entirely at this point.
Anyway... I think the pitching is where I'd really focus my upgrades if anything this offseason. But that's me.
One thing I’d like to see the Yanks improve upon is scouting and Â
and developing amateur pitchers. You don’t need to sit at the top of the draft to pick up good prep arms. The Dodgers, Rays, Braves, even the Blue Jays have shown that. Our record in that department is abysmal, I can rattle off names from here to tomorrow. Our next wave is mostly Latin, and it will be interesting to see how many of them actually reach their potential.
RE: One thing I’d like to see the Yanks improve upon is scouting and Â
and developing amateur pitchers. You don’t need to sit at the top of the draft to pick up good prep arms. The Dodgers, Rays, Braves, even the Blue Jays have shown that. Our record in that department is abysmal, I can rattle off names from here to tomorrow. Our next wave is mostly Latin, and it will be interesting to see how many of them actually reach their potential.
Oh, yay! Jim is here to trash the Yankees' farm system and player development. Maybe you can tell us again what a small market Houston is.
RE: One thing I’d like to see the Yanks improve upon is scouting and Â
and developing amateur pitchers. You don’t need to sit at the top of the draft to pick up good prep arms. The Dodgers, Rays, Braves, even the Blue Jays have shown that. Our record in that department is abysmal, I can rattle off names from here to tomorrow. Our next wave is mostly Latin, and it will be interesting to see how many of them actually reach their potential.
It's a consensus top 5 pitching development program in baseball. The hitting development program was overhauled this past year, with some initial positive results (but way too early to tell).
but do the Sox let Betts go? I can understand Martinez. But are they really letting their best player and a top 5 player in all of BB go someplace else?
Houston’s revenue was $300M less than the Yanks’ in 2018. The Yanks consistently generate 400M+ this decade while Houston was barely nearing 200M until their recent run.
I don’t know what the total budget or net profit is for either team, but I’d be upset if I am spending more and getting less. The point is, why should any other team’s facilities, staff, whatever depts be better than ours? We can claim best this and best that, but where is the empirical evidence? Twins can at least look to finances when they are pummeled by us every year, what’s our excuses when Houston sends us packing 3 out of 5 years?
Baseball is a game of bounces and unpredictable, but my gripes are not entirely baseless. What’s the point of pounding your chest and then having to root against your rivals while your team sits at home?
I don't agree with everything he writes, but at least I find him credible. He's better than a lot of hacks who
cover baseball. Now with that said, this would sound ideal,
lets get Lindor AND Cole. The reality is far fetched though. Lindor would have have a couple years of team control, and how much would you have to give up to get him?
As Joel points out with arbitration, you are also looking at roughly about 43+ million for those two years.
On top of that, they dish out about 250+ for Cole?
I read the article, and laughed. It does sound good...
Hey Joel, Aerosmith has a song for you called "Dream On".
that there is no reason the Yankees should hold themselves to any of the luxury tax levels because they can blow them all out of the water and still be profitable.
Once one accepts the fact that the owners just aren't going to do that, it's nothing more than pie in the sky.
Houston’s revenue was $300M less than the Yanks’ in 2018. The Yanks consistently generate 400M+ this decade while Houston was barely nearing 200M until their recent run.
I don’t know what the total budget or net profit is for either team, but I’d be upset if I am spending more and getting less. The point is, why should any other team’s facilities, staff, whatever depts be better than ours? We can claim best this and best that, but where is the empirical evidence? Twins can at least look to finances when they are pummeled by us every year, what’s our excuses when Houston sends us packing 3 out of 5 years?
Baseball is a game of bounces and unpredictable, but my gripes are not entirely baseless. What’s the point of pounding your chest and then having to root against your rivals while your team sits at home?
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I just think some confuse population size with what
is and is not a big market team. Most likely, some of
the younger fans. It's revenues generated, it's the local TV deals in each market, etc. I am sure you know that.
Hell Boston is not the biggest city around, but nobody is going to call them a small market team. Outside of the Yanks and Dodgers, they can spend with anybody, and in fact, have had the highest payroll the last two years.
That's why John Henry has decided that's enough, wants to cut back. So you hear rumors start about moving Betts this offseason, we'll see there...
they turned Deivi Garcia into a prospect of consequence, they've developed a bunch of MLB arms and trade chips over the last several years. And they have maybe the best reputation in the sport for adding velocity. The proof of the esteem in which they're held is the annual ratf-cking of the Yankees front office. That's not a coincidence.
The Rays got creative because they had to. If they got creative and failed so be it. The Yankees couldn't pioneer the opener because if it failed heads would roll. That's the difference in their respective organizations. Their pitching development has been more uneven than you allow, in that they've had a number of good and even great prospects stagnate or fizzle.
Haha, that’s what I was thinking. Why not convince the Angels to trade Mike Trout while we are at it. But no Judge, Severino or Torres in that deal!
Wtf?? This is a business dude. Time to win....
Yeah, that Kluber deal has at least small positive value. No commitment + optionality + huge ceiling. Head scratcher.
I wouldn't bet on it getting done but our options to significantly improve our position in the AL are quite limited.
crazy talk.
$43M for the next two years of Lindor is a bargain. He's had 40 2B and 30 HR the last three years. The problem is you would want to extend the years past two to protect against injury and the investment.
The Indians have won more than 90 games the past 4 years, and finished second this year behind a 101-win Minnesota team. Cleveland can just revisit this at the 2020 deadline if Lindor really is intent on leaving via Free Agency. They have Brayan Rocchio and Tyler Freeman as a couple of good SS prospects, but they won't replace Lindor internally or through trade. They definitely look like AL Central favorites for the next two years with him.
Gerrit Cole wants to be a Yankee. I've talked to him a few times. The Angels are a great fit and will drive up the price, but the Yankees should get him in the end.
Insidious pest...Hal won't pay the price. Cashman works for Hal Steinbrenner. If Hal says spending limit is $208, then that is what it is.
BTW how did Bosox $240+ mill rosters do this year? How did the Astros and Nationals $168 mill rosters do?
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he never does. He's passed on trading for every high profile player that's been moved unless it's a salary dump even if the Yankees don't need the player. Stanton being the latest example.
Insidious pest...Hal won't pay the price. Cashman works for Hal Steinbrenner. If Hal says spending limit is $208, then that is what it is.
BTW how did Bosox $240+ mill rosters do this year? How did the Astros and Nationals $168 mill rosters do?
Spending isn't the issue. Just the allocation of resources. We have too mcuh money tied up in guys like Stanton when we oculd have used that for Cole.
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he never does. He's passed on trading for every high profile player that's been moved unless it's a salary dump even if the Yankees don't need the player. Stanton being the latest example.
Insidious pest...Hal won't pay the price. Cashman works for Hal Steinbrenner. If Hal says spending limit is $208, then that is what it is.
BTW how did Bosox $240+ mill rosters do this year? How did the Astros and Nationals $168 mill rosters do?
Spending isn't the issue. Just the allocation of resources. We have too mcuh money tied up in guys like Stanton when we oculd have used that for Cole.
Yeah and Ellsbury. Stanton was an ok thing at the time. It was an eye opener, but Stanton was just MVP with 59 HRs. People knew Cole was good, but not this good. And what is to say he doesn't regress out of Houston and that becomes an albatross contract.
I'm in the no long term contracts group. They are debilitating because they rarely work out. If they get you to two or three WS, ok you can eat the remainder. But ones like Ellsbury never made sense from the get go. Even Stanton only gets him to 35 or so which is not awful.
I hated the Stanton trade at the time, and that was before the abominable 2019 season for him. When is the Ellsbury contract off the books again?
I am not absolutely for signing Cole, but we can’t go into next season with the same cast and hope for Loaisiga, Montgomery to develop or Garcia and King to flash. Obviously I am nitpicking, we are not the Mets after all, but something needs to be done for us to dethrone Houston. For those who insist the roster, coaching staff, minor league system are all fine, so what gives? How come Houston has beat us 3 out of the last 5 playoffs?
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he never does. He's passed on trading for every high profile player that's been moved unless it's a salary dump even if the Yankees don't need the player. Stanton being the latest example.
Insidious pest...Hal won't pay the price. Cashman works for Hal Steinbrenner. If Hal says spending limit is $208, then that is what it is.
BTW how did Bosox $240+ mill rosters do this year? How did the Astros and Nationals $168 mill rosters do?
This wasn't the point of your post, but just to make sure confusion doesn't spiral -- indications are that the binding constraint on NYY payroll will be the $228M second level of the luxury tax.
If it's the first $208M level, any idea of adding players can be forgotten and we can talk about not only who to let walk, but whose contracts we are going to be shipping out.
It was more his father than him. I think he wanted to sign, but the family was already well off and his father really wanted him to go to college and was the one who steered him to UCLA ultimately
Maybe the Yanks are their Twins?
Did you know Houston's payroll is $50 mill less than the Yankees?
While no one knows what a player like Montgomery brings, a good 4th starter means less work for the BP.
IDK, Saverino, Paxton, Tanaka and Montgomery is a pretty decent SP staff.
Is it as good as Cole, Verlander and Greinke or Scherzer, Strasburg? IDK, but it is not far behind.
That's why I hold a grudge. They misled Cashman.
This is true and a lot of their guys are still on reduced contracts to keep the payroll down for now. But you have to give them credit for their draft choices. Just because you draft high does not mean you pick the right guys.
The more I think about it, the more I'm OK with those two contracts being the biggest things the Yankees do this offseason.
Nope, you are correct. No argument from me. Miami is doing the same thing right now. And there are others, especially in the AL...monkey see, monkey do baseball.
There are not many teams that identify and develop their own pitchers on a consistent basis. Tampa and the Mets are good. Who else?
It also helps to acquire 3 aces seasons in a row at the deadline for a pittance. Much, much less than teams wanted from the Yankees. It’s amazing that teams are watching what is going on and still feel like they’d rather make a shit deal with the small market, underdog Astros than deal with the big bad Yankees.
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coming up through the system. Who could have known?
It also helps to acquire 3 aces seasons in a row at the deadline for a pittance. Much, much less than teams wanted from the Yankees. It’s amazing that teams are watching what is going on and still feel like they’d rather make a shit deal with the small market, underdog Astros than deal with the big bad Yankees.
haha, small market Houston....
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coming up through the system. Who could have known?
It also helps to acquire 3 aces seasons in a row at the deadline for a pittance. Much, much less than teams wanted from the Yankees. It’s amazing that teams are watching what is going on and still feel like they’d rather make a shit deal with the small market, underdog Astros than deal with the big bad Yankees.
haha, small market Houston....
Yeah I was being sarcastic
We did that - quite well, I may add. NYY were the the best (if not, right there IIRC) situational hitting team in the majors through the course of the regular season.
What sucks, is that in a playoff series, that can disappear. Great pitchers can neutralize or limit you there. You get less opportunities against starters on fumes or back end relievers to 'do damage' - we saw it happen against Houston. So many times we'd get runners on, in scoring position... and fail to ultimately drive them in.
Good pitching tends to overpower good hitting in the postseason.
If it's me, I am doing what it takes to sign Gerrit Cole. I don't care what it costs, I think that's a guy the Yankees need to go 'old school' on and just buy. Hal probably won't want to go that route... so I'm not expecting it. But, that's what I would do.
Look at how the Astros and Nationals got here...
Cole, Verlander, Greinke, Scherzer, Strasburg, Corbin...
Our pitching isn't in terrible shape, but I think we need a true #1 to go with Paxton and Severino. Paxton is a prototypical #2 starter on a good team, IMO. Severino can be anything from an ace to a 3rd starter... we've seen his performance spectrum kind of vary widely.
If they need to move some players, make some trades, do some maneuvering... so be it. But, I don't think this roster needs a ton of help otherwise. We just didn't have the starting pitching to really hold up against the Astros this year. You could feel it and it was helpless.
He ignored what we posted yesterday where the Yanks batting numbers were better than the Astros by a significant margin...
Houston's hitters certainly didn't win that series. The difference between us and them is that they came up with the timely hits when we couldn't. Part of that means crediting their pitchers for holding a lineup that was so good situationally all year long in check.
Maybe it's easier to just say the Yankees bats fell silent or sucked or whatever... but sometimes the opponent deserves some credit too.
The Yanks were far too reliant on their bullpen this postseason. Smoltz was insufferable the entire series; but one of the points he made that he was right on is that we really didn't have much margin for error with this strategy. If we got into a spot where a couple of starters didn't have it or didn't give us length, it was going to be tough to navigate so many bullpen innings - especially with a scheduled bullpen game in place of a starter to begin with.
I got a sinking feeling after we had to bring Happ into Game 2. Right before we even lost that game, I felt like that was where the series was going to shift... it felt like they were about to start to get us. Once you've got JA Happ pitching in a crucial spot like that - you're got. We were got.
Games 1 and 5 were pretty much how we had it drawn up... but it was tough to win a 7 game series that way given the state of the staff.
I don't know - I think this lineup is mostly good enough with what's here. We'll have decisions to make on guys like Andujar and Gardner. I really feel like Stanton is just not going to work out here... I don't think we really have much of an avenue to offload him this winter. Especially with his value so low and his contract so heavy.
They should focus on term with guys like Torres and Judge... perhaps they can tack on a couple of years for LeMahieu if they believe this is sustainable here. There's also Encarnacion. I think Bird is just a non factor entirely at this point.
Anyway... I think the pitching is where I'd really focus my upgrades if anything this offseason. But that's me.
Oh, yay! Jim is here to trash the Yankees' farm system and player development. Maybe you can tell us again what a small market Houston is.
It's a consensus top 5 pitching development program in baseball. The hitting development program was overhauled this past year, with some initial positive results (but way too early to tell).
I don’t know what the total budget or net profit is for either team, but I’d be upset if I am spending more and getting less. The point is, why should any other team’s facilities, staff, whatever depts be better than ours? We can claim best this and best that, but where is the empirical evidence? Twins can at least look to finances when they are pummeled by us every year, what’s our excuses when Houston sends us packing 3 out of 5 years?
Baseball is a game of bounces and unpredictable, but my gripes are not entirely baseless. What’s the point of pounding your chest and then having to root against your rivals while your team sits at home?
cover baseball. Now with that said, this would sound ideal,
lets get Lindor AND Cole. The reality is far fetched though. Lindor would have have a couple years of team control, and how much would you have to give up to get him?
As Joel points out with arbitration, you are also looking at roughly about 43+ million for those two years.
On top of that, they dish out about 250+ for Cole?
I read the article, and laughed. It does sound good...
Hey Joel, Aerosmith has a song for you called "Dream On".
Once one accepts the fact that the owners just aren't going to do that, it's nothing more than pie in the sky.
I don’t know what the total budget or net profit is for either team, but I’d be upset if I am spending more and getting less. The point is, why should any other team’s facilities, staff, whatever depts be better than ours? We can claim best this and best that, but where is the empirical evidence? Twins can at least look to finances when they are pummeled by us every year, what’s our excuses when Houston sends us packing 3 out of 5 years?
Baseball is a game of bounces and unpredictable, but my gripes are not entirely baseless. What’s the point of pounding your chest and then having to root against your rivals while your team sits at home?
I just think some confuse population size with what
is and is not a big market team. Most likely, some of
the younger fans. It's revenues generated, it's the local TV deals in each market, etc. I am sure you know that.
Hell Boston is not the biggest city around, but nobody is going to call them a small market team. Outside of the Yanks and Dodgers, they can spend with anybody, and in fact, have had the highest payroll the last two years.
That's why John Henry has decided that's enough, wants to cut back. So you hear rumors start about moving Betts this offseason, we'll see there...
The Rays got creative because they had to. If they got creative and failed so be it. The Yankees couldn't pioneer the opener because if it failed heads would roll. That's the difference in their respective organizations. Their pitching development has been more uneven than you allow, in that they've had a number of good and even great prospects stagnate or fizzle.