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MNF: Pats @ Jets.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/21/2019 8:08 pm
A part of me-albeit a very small part-thinks the Jets can actually make this a game & be in a position late to steal it. With Darnold, they looked like a competent NFL team vs. Dallas. But then again, it's the Patriots. BB, TB, & that insane defense.

Go Pats!
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Darnold is spooked.  
Britt in VA : 10/21/2019 9:33 pm : link
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I think that's a catch there  
Del Shofner : 10/21/2019 9:34 pm : link
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RE: Also don't forget hurricane force winds!  
Nine-Tails : 10/21/2019 9:34 pm : link
In comment 14639873 BestFeature said:
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Like yesterday in the rain. He has thrown well in bad weather, that's a good sign
I think Crowder  
section125 : 10/21/2019 9:35 pm : link
caught that pass. I don't think it hit the ground with those quick replays. Think his arm hit, he flipped over it came loose and he caught it again.
RE: I think that's a catch there  
Britt in VA : 10/21/2019 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14639879 Del Shofner said:
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Still 4th down though. You gotta take points, right? Darnold doesn't get this and he might fold.
RE: RE: RE: Daniel Jones  
Nine-Tails : 10/21/2019 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14639874 Britt in VA said:
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On short rest, an awful supporting question, and at foxboro in his fourth start has the best performance as a qb against the Pat's. Yes, the fumbling and pocket awareness are real concerns rn, but some people are too harsh on him and expecting far too much so early.



Fans are extremely predictable. No matter how much people swear they understand they have to be patient with a young QB they have zero patience.



Totally. The best/funniest were the calls for Manning to come back in.


Well the beat, Ralph V, asked too lol
And you guys blast jones as a rookie  
Carl in CT : 10/21/2019 9:35 pm : link
This second year guy is a joke.
That’s some throw  
bubba0825 : 10/21/2019 9:38 pm : link
By darnold
Another  
AcidTest : 10/21/2019 9:38 pm : link
overthrow by Darnold. Watch Brady get at least a FG to further punish the Jets.
Patriots defense  
Breeze_94 : 10/21/2019 9:40 pm : link
is strongest in the secondary. Giants should emulate this blueprint. They have Peppers, Baker has really turned a corner as well. They should draft Grant Delpit if they have a chance and sign Byron Jones/Kendall Fuller. Plus Beal, Love, and Ballentine.
Looked like Engram there  
BestFeature : 10/21/2019 9:40 pm : link
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Can't  
AcidTest : 10/21/2019 9:40 pm : link
believe Edelman dropped that perfect pass from Brady.
RE: And you guys blast jones as a rookie  
Nine-Tails : 10/21/2019 9:42 pm : link
In comment 14639886 Carl in CT said:
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This second year guy is a joke.


Honestly, when some here say Jones has been awful lately it makes me cringe. Yes there are some real issues, but I see awful performances by young qbs as something like what Darnold is showing now or against Minny last year, Baker throwing for 100 yards a couple weeks ago, and Eli against Baltimore. Those are awful performances and like Eli, Jones is getting criticized and called a bust while Darnold and Mayfield are seen as the future and these performances dont count
Booger is awful.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/21/2019 9:42 pm : link
Such a contrast with Olsen yesterday.
Your welcome  
Stan in LA : 10/21/2019 9:44 pm : link
RE: RE: And you guys blast jones as a rookie  
BestFeature : 10/21/2019 9:44 pm : link
In comment 14639901 Nine-Tails said:
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This second year guy is a joke.



Honestly, when some here say Jones has been awful lately it makes me cringe. Yes there are some real issues, but I see awful performances by young qbs as something like what Darnold is showing now or against Minny last year, Baker throwing for 100 yards a couple weeks ago, and Eli against Baltimore. Those are awful performances and like Eli, Jones is getting criticized and called a bust while Darnold and Mayfield are seen as the future and these performances dont count


Knock on wood, but all 5 games have been better than any game Eli played in his rookie year outside of the Steelers, Cowboys, and maybe Falcons. For God's sake, Eli looked lost as late as the 2007 regular season.
To be fair to Eli....  
Britt in VA : 10/21/2019 9:45 pm : link
times have changed considerably since then, for young NFL QB's.
How much are the Pats paying Marshall Newhouse  
Jimmy Googs : 10/21/2019 9:45 pm : link
to play LT for them?
RE: To be fair to Eli....  
BestFeature : 10/21/2019 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14639911 Britt in VA said:
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times have changed considerably since then, for young NFL QB's.


That's true.
RE: To be fair to Eli....  
crick n NC : 10/21/2019 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14639911 Britt in VA said:
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times have changed considerably since then, for young NFL QB's.


Something worth remembering
Where is fanofthejets  
PatersonPlank : 10/21/2019 9:47 pm : link
I want him to tell me how great Darnold is again.
That said, this Patriots' D is an all time great it seems  
BestFeature : 10/21/2019 9:47 pm : link
Compare that to the Ravens game that year. At least Jones made SOME plays, including the only TD allowed through the air against the Pats.
RE: RE: RE: And you guys blast jones as a rookie  
Nine-Tails : 10/21/2019 9:48 pm : link
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This second year guy is a joke.



Honestly, when some here say Jones has been awful lately it makes me cringe. Yes there are some real issues, but I see awful performances by young qbs as something like what Darnold is showing now or against Minny last year, Baker throwing for 100 yards a couple weeks ago, and Eli against Baltimore. Those are awful performances and like Eli, Jones is getting criticized and called a bust while Darnold and Mayfield are seen as the future and these performances dont count



Knock on wood, but all 5 games have been better than any game Eli played in his rookie year outside of the Steelers, Cowboys, and maybe Falcons. For God's sake, Eli looked lost as late as the 2007 regular season.


Eli in his seventh season three 25 picks and lost 5 fumbles. And we have some saying Jones cant be an nfl qb if he continues with turnovers. It's like they forgot about young Eli.
RE: Daniel Jones  
Blue21 : 10/21/2019 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14639869 Nine-Tails said:
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On short rest, an awful supporting question, and at foxboro in his fourth start has the best performance as a qb against the Pat's. Yes, the fumbling and pocket awareness are real concerns rn, but some people are too harsh on him and expecting far too much so early.


That's why all the critics who've already made their mind up on Jones need to give it time. Who knows how any of them will turn out way to early especially for Jones.
RE: Daniel Jones  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/21/2019 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14639869 Nine-Tails said:
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On short rest, an awful supporting question, and at foxboro in his fourth start has the best performance as a qb against the Pat's. Yes, the fumbling and pocket awareness are real concerns rn, but some people are too harsh on him and expecting far too much so early.


Best post of this thread.
RE: RE: RE: And you guys blast jones as a rookie  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/21/2019 9:50 pm : link
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This second year guy is a joke.



Honestly, when some here say Jones has been awful lately it makes me cringe. Yes there are some real issues, but I see awful performances by young qbs as something like what Darnold is showing now or against Minny last year, Baker throwing for 100 yards a couple weeks ago, and Eli against Baltimore. Those are awful performances and like Eli, Jones is getting criticized and called a bust while Darnold and Mayfield are seen as the future and these performances dont count



Knock on wood, but all 5 games have been better than any game Eli played in his rookie year outside of the Steelers, Cowboys, and maybe Falcons. For God's sake, Eli looked lost as late as the 2007 regular season.


+100. Eli looked lost in all of those games outside of Dallas. Even in Jones' "bad" games, he's still at least competitive.
I hope at some point this season  
Mr. Bungle : 10/21/2019 9:54 pm : link
Jones looks as great as Eli did against the Steelers his rookie season. And the Steelers had an elite defense that year.

We'll see.
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BestFeature : 10/21/2019 9:54 pm : link
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This second year guy is a joke.



Honestly, when some here say Jones has been awful lately it makes me cringe. Yes there are some real issues, but I see awful performances by young qbs as something like what Darnold is showing now or against Minny last year, Baker throwing for 100 yards a couple weeks ago, and Eli against Baltimore. Those are awful performances and like Eli, Jones is getting criticized and called a bust while Darnold and Mayfield are seen as the future and these performances dont count



Knock on wood, but all 5 games have been better than any game Eli played in his rookie year outside of the Steelers, Cowboys, and maybe Falcons. For God's sake, Eli looked lost as late as the 2007 regular season.



+100. Eli looked lost in all of those games outside of Dallas. Even in Jones' "bad" games, he's still at least competitive.


He actually had a decent game against the Steelers, really his first good game. I think he even outplayed Ben and put up over 30 points (maybe there was an ST TD somewhere in there). Really gave us hope.
RE: I hope at some point this season  
BestFeature : 10/21/2019 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14639937 Mr. Bungle said:
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Jones looks as great as Eli did against the Steelers his rookie season. And the Steelers had an elite defense that year.

We'll see.


Not an elite defense but the game against the Bucs was better than any game Eli played in his rookie season.
Why are people still arguing about, and comparing, Eli and DJ  
PatersonPlank : 10/21/2019 9:56 pm : link
Its immaterial. Jones is the future, play him. It's getting like Trump Derangement Syndrome around here.
Awesome  
crick n NC : 10/21/2019 9:57 pm : link
Let's find ways to put down Jones or manning to prop up the other. Nothing like taking sides
I think Jones' problem is that he's trying to do too much.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/21/2019 9:57 pm : link
Thus the forced throws, though the lack of separation isn't helping matters.

I think we got a good one. I just hope we get the right guys to grow with him. And needless to say, I don't think Shurmur is that man.
RE: Awesome  
BestFeature : 10/21/2019 9:59 pm : link
In comment 14639942 crick n NC said:
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Let's find ways to put down Jones or manning to prop up the other. Nothing like taking sides


You're completely missing the point. The point is that Eli turned out fine despite looking poor early in his career.
SAM DARNOLD!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/21/2019 10:02 pm : link
Turnover machine!
There are ways  
crick n NC : 10/21/2019 10:03 pm : link
To prove points without diminishing the other. Not to mention we are comparing two she fifteen years apart, different offensive systems, surrounding players and league rules. Not exactly apples to apples.
Another pick for Sammy Dimes.  
bceagle05 : 10/21/2019 10:03 pm : link
Only drama left is if they bench him.
I really wish we had Darnold  
PatersonPlank : 10/21/2019 10:03 pm : link
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That play looked like the Patriots knew  
St. Jimmy : 10/21/2019 10:03 pm : link
exactly how to get Darnold to throw it where they wanted too.
Another pic? Can't be  
Blue21 : 10/21/2019 10:03 pm : link
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*Two Qb's*  
crick n NC : 10/21/2019 10:03 pm : link
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Is anybody in the league playing their respective position  
Jimmy Googs : 10/21/2019 10:04 pm : link
better than Gilmore?
RE: Why are people still arguing about, and comparing, Eli and DJ  
Nine-Tails : 10/21/2019 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14639941 PatersonPlank said:
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Its immaterial. Jones is the future, play him. It's getting like Trump Derangement Syndrome around here.


You got it wrong. It was more saying Eli struggled with turnovers early on and turned out great. So some should remember before burying Jones so early
DJ wasn't good vs. Pats.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/21/2019 10:04 pm : link
But with no weapons, on the road, & on a short week...Jesus, he looked a helluva lot better than Darnold.
RE: Is anybody in the league playing their respective position  
Nine-Tails : 10/21/2019 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14639962 Jimmy Googs said:
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better than Gilmore?


Alex Tanney is better in the room than Gilmore is at cb
What I do know..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/21/2019 10:05 pm : link
is that if a Giants QB said he was seeing ghosts in the middle of a 4 turnover game where we were getting shutout, mass chaos would ensure on the board.
Oof, turned it off after Star Wars....  
Britt in VA : 10/21/2019 10:05 pm : link
Throw the damn towel.
RE: Is anybody in the league playing their respective position  
MookGiants : 10/21/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14639962 Jimmy Googs said:
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better than Gilmore?


Maybe Quenton Nelson
RE: What I do know..  
Nine-Tails : 10/21/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14639966 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is that if a Giants QB said he was seeing ghosts in the middle of a 4 turnover game where we were getting shutout, mass chaos would ensure on the board.


It would be all over ESPN. For Darnold, everyone will be like it's the Pat's defense they're unbelievable. Sam Darnold is the future dammit!!!
RE: What I do know..  
UConn4523 : 10/21/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14639966 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is that if a Giants QB said he was seeing ghosts in the middle of a 4 turnover game where we were getting shutout, mass chaos would ensure on the board.


I haven’t really been watching, what’s this about?
Well it is almost Halloween....  
Britt in VA : 10/21/2019 10:08 pm : link
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