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What will Francesa say about Darnold vs. Jones

Archer : 10/21/2019 10:33 pm
Mike was very critical of Jones and said that Darnold was the superior QB
Mike said that they are both young QBs and they are learning but that Darnold was both better now and the Jets had their QB of the future
Conversely he was very critical of Jones and said that he was not convinced that he was a franchise QB

I hope that he will be equally dismissive of Darnold
If Jones had a game as bad as Darnold is having he would have killed him
I think that it is fair to compare Jones game against NE on the road, with a short week, and Barkley , Engram , Shepard were out with Darnold’s game

Jones was great when comparing him to Darnold
I was thinking the EXACT same thing.  
BlueHurricane : 10/21/2019 10:36 pm : link
Da Pope went out of his way today to put Darnold ahead of Jones.
Don't forget how bad the weather was for Jones in that game too  
BestFeature : 10/21/2019 10:38 pm : link
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Mike's off the reservation regarding Darnold.  
bceagle05 : 10/21/2019 10:39 pm : link
I like Darnold and think he'll be pretty good, but Mike acts like he's some Elway/Peyton/Luck level prospect. None of the 2018 QBs are clearly better than Jones.
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Banks : 10/21/2019 10:58 pm : link
Mike will put it all on Gase
I'm guessing he'll say both organizations are a joke  
Go Terps : 10/21/2019 11:02 pm : link
And he'll be right.
RE: I'm guessing he'll say both organizations are a joke  
Default : 10/21/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14640110 Go Terps said:
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And he'll be right.


The state of NY sports is crazy bad.
The best only relevant team plays on the boarder of Canada.
RE: RE: I'm guessing he'll say both organizations are a joke  
Nick in LA : 10/21/2019 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14640137 Default said:
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In comment 14640110 Go Terps said:


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And he'll be right.



The state of NY sports is crazy bad.
The best only relevant team plays on the boarder of Canada.


Yeah the state of the Yankees is just terrible.....
What the hell does Fatso know anyway.  
Carl in CT : 10/22/2019 12:02 am : link
He knows horse racing that’s about it. He was an entertainer with the Mad Dog. Other than that, not much knowledge. A real know it all. Not.
Mike is in a place  
joeinpa : 10/22/2019 6:43 am : link
Where he spins every thing Giants in a negative manner.

That he wouldn’t come out and say yesterday that Jones is not a franchise guy, indicated to me, that he probably believes he is going to be pretty good.
Didn't Jones play in NE without  
ZogZerg : 10/22/2019 7:07 am : link
any of his offensive weapons, on short week, and do much better?
I obviously don't live there  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 10/22/2019 7:19 am : link
But it's always fascinated me that people don't just listen to him but take him seriously. He's the epitome of a sensationalist and frequently flip flops. Why not listening to music or a podcast? I mean I guess if what you drive only had an FM radio I get it but I personally would rather listen to the wind than someone paid to piss ppl off.
Its way too early to say who is going to be the better QB  
cjac : 10/22/2019 7:24 am : link
but right now it looks like we can just base it on who turns the ball over less.
Usually Mike is pretty reasonable, but his hatred for Gettleman has  
Ira : 10/22/2019 7:30 am : link
colored everything he says about the Giants - including Daniel Jones. If the Jets had Jones and the Giants had Darnold, he'd say Jones was a much better qb. He's no longer worth listening to when he talks about the Giants.
and that hatred list just keeps getting longer  
GmeninPSL : 10/22/2019 8:02 am : link
Shockey
Strahan
Beckham
But Gettlemen brings it to a brand new level because now it's not about a player.
RE: Usually Mike is pretty reasonable, but his hatred for Gettleman has  
Essex : 10/22/2019 8:07 am : link
In comment 14640292 Ira said:
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colored everything he says about the Giants - including Daniel Jones. If the Jets had Jones and the Giants had Darnold, he'd say Jones was a much better qb. He's no longer worth listening to when he talks about the Giants.

Mike is “pretty reasonable” where can I get what you are smoking? He is no different than Stephen A or Skip, just has horrible opinions that he says loudly and thinks that makes him right. He is an idiot and basically has been for 20+ years. He knows nothing, doesn’t watch anything and is a general buffoon. But other than that, he is great
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KingBlue : 10/22/2019 9:27 am : link
In comment 14640326 Essex said:
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colored everything he says about the Giants - including Daniel Jones. If the Jets had Jones and the Giants had Darnold, he'd say Jones was a much better qb. He's no longer worth listening to when he talks about the Giants.


Mike is “pretty reasonable” where can I get what you are smoking? He is no different than Stephen A or Skip, just has horrible opinions that he says loudly and thinks that makes him right. He is an idiot and basically has been for 20+ years. He knows nothing, doesn’t watch anything and is a general buffoon. But other than that, he is great


No offense, but your take is far more representative of buffoonery than anything the Sports Pope can offer. He is nothing like Steven A or Skip. Apparently, you just have an agenda. He knows a lot more than you do, watches everything (except hockey) and has been a radio sports icon for 30 years. He is not an idiot. He is far more successful at his chosen profession than you could ever be at yours. You don't have to agree with his opinions that he is paid to provide, but the least you could do is offer something of substance over this drivel... Again, no offense.
RE: RE: RE: Usually Mike is pretty reasonable, but his hatred for Gettleman has  
Essex : 10/22/2019 9:50 am : link
In comment 14640505 KingBlue said:
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In comment 14640292 Ira said:


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colored everything he says about the Giants - including Daniel Jones. If the Jets had Jones and the Giants had Darnold, he'd say Jones was a much better qb. He's no longer worth listening to when he talks about the Giants.


Mike is “pretty reasonable” where can I get what you are smoking? He is no different than Stephen A or Skip, just has horrible opinions that he says loudly and thinks that makes him right. He is an idiot and basically has been for 20+ years. He knows nothing, doesn’t watch anything and is a general buffoon. But other than that, he is great



No offense, but your take is far more representative of buffoonery than anything the Sports Pope can offer. He is nothing like Steven A or Skip. Apparently, you just have an agenda. He knows a lot more than you do, watches everything (except hockey) and has been a radio sports icon for 30 years. He is not an idiot. He is far more successful at his chosen profession than you could ever be at yours. You don't have to agree with his opinions that he is paid to provide, but the least you could do is offer something of substance over this drivel... Again, no offense.



He is exactly like Stephen A. and Skip he says divisive things to get you to call and listen. He does it all the time. If you think that he is an informed sports opinion and is well prepared that says more about you than it does me. He constantly contradicts himself, it is completely obvious he does not watch games outside of the NFL and maybe the Yankees, and he is constantly wrong. They have twitter accounts that have tens of thousands of followers that post daily clips of his lack of knowledge. In short, he has become a laughingstock. I am not going to tell you what I do for a living, but you have no idea what I do for a living and how successful or not I have been.
Fracesser never once said any of these things  
Knineteen : 10/22/2019 10:46 am : link
Are you the same idiot who calls in on a daily basis spouting out this nonsense?

I can't fathom how much spin is in this post.

I get it, Fracesser is a loud-mouth...but don't put words in his mouth.
he never played  
Ron Johnson : 10/22/2019 10:51 am : link
and never coached. His opinion is as valid as your average BBIer. Maybe less so.
Jones vs Darnold  
Archer : 10/22/2019 2:02 pm : link
Francesa said that He would not trade Darnold for Jones, and that Giants fans were delusional to think that they had enough information on Jones to ascertain his future
In addition he went on to criticize Jones in that he holds the ball to long, he does not protect the ball, and he is not that athletic
He did say that he had a + arm but this was qualified that it was not a strong arm but accurate

He qualified his negative comments by stating that all young QBs go through this
Where his argument lost any validity was when he compared the Giants and the Jets His analysis was prejudiced everything about the Giants were negative
The Jets were far ahead of the Giants in talent led by Darnold
He believed that Darnold had shown enough to warrant a lofty ranking
He referred to the Dallas game and contrasted that with Jones games against NE, and Arizona

My point is that it is not appropriate to downgrade Jones for three mediocre
Performances if you do not apply the same criticism to Darnold when he lays an egg and sees ghosts
If Jones has a game as poor as Darnolds he would be labeled a bust by Francesa
Francesa  
Thegratefulhead : 10/22/2019 2:15 pm : link
Could be one of the assholes on BBI. Basically, a person that believed the Giants SHOULD do X. They rant about it for weeks or months and when it doesn't happen, they now hate the franchise. Everything would be great if only the Giants had done X. X was brilliant and they chose to do Y instead, Y was stupid and the franchise will be in hell forever. They now take every possible opportunity to crap on the franchise, because...the Giants made a decision they did not approve of. Hey you....Go fuck yourself.
This is where I have no respect for him  
Carl in CT : 10/22/2019 3:34 pm : link
He was a Giant fan, switched to Dallas when Parcells went there. (How could you ever switch because your friend coaches?) you are not a fan then. He followed to NYJ and NE. I can tell you first hand about this (and it’s not about the player I get abused about). Will Tye’s father always was a cowboys fan. He still is. He would want his son to do well but wanted Dallas to win when they played.
It's way too early to tell about either of them  
arniefez : 10/22/2019 3:47 pm : link
The Pats made both of them look like rookie year Eli. Anyone remember the Ravens game in 2004?

Eli threw 4 picks and was getting run out of town in his 4th season. 2 months later he was Super Bowl MVP. 4 years later he was Super Bowl MVP again.

Both QBs have shown promise. Both are turnover machines at machines at this point. Both are on bad teams with awful head coaches and weak owners. Way too early to tell about either of them.
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