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Updated NFL Draft Order as of 10/22...

M.S. : 10/22/2019 7:36 am

...Giants are currently at #8. Three biggest needs (according to Dan Parr at NFL.com) are Edge pass rusher, DB and WR.

Edge, of course we are desperate. DB only if he's talking about Free Safety. WR is not a Top 3 need when you consider our problems at OT and ILB.

In any event, the Giants of today are wading through the same swamp of the 1960s (post-1963). The only difference is that the idiots back then kept trading away high draft picks whereas today we at least have held on to ours.

And make no mistake about it. The Draft is the only thing we now have going for us since we will end up with a Top 5 selection.

2020 NFL Draft order: Jets No. 5; Giants, Browns in top 10 - ( New Window )

No guarantee of top 5

gmenatlarge : 10/22/2019 7:55 am : link

many BAD teams this year- Miami, Skins, Jets, Bengals, Falcons, Bucs, Lions could all end up ahead of the Giants.

According to tankathon

Big Rick in FL : 10/22/2019 8:04 am : link

The Giants currently have the 6th pick in the draft.

I have no idea

ray in arlington : 10/22/2019 8:06 am : link

why the NFL doesn't count our future opponents' records toward the strength of schedule. (They are ignoring that NYG will play NYJ, Miami). Sometimes they list a team ahead of another team when they can't possibly pick ahead of that team in case of a tie at the end of the season.

I have no idea what the Steelers did this year..

Chris684 : 10/22/2019 8:17 am : link

Given their situation, trading a first for Fitzpatrick with Ben aging, only Rudolph behind him on the roster, and a QB class as deep as the 2020 first round seems to be.

RE: No guarantee of top 5

gmenatlarge : 10/22/2019 8:18 am : link

In comment 14640305 gmenatlarge said:

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many BAD teams this year- Miami, Skins, Jets, Bengals, Falcons, Bucs, Lions could all end up ahead of the Giants.

Also Denver

Even if the Giants are not top 5

Giantimistic : 10/22/2019 8:27 am : link

They will get a Top 5 talent with all the qbs that may go at the top.

It�s time to embrace the suck

The_Boss : 10/22/2019 9:47 am : link

Keep losing. A side benefit could be the termination of Shurm.

At least

Harvest Blend : 10/22/2019 9:50 am : link

College Basketball is right around the corner.

RE: It�s time to embrace the suck

M.S. : 10/22/2019 9:53 am : link

In comment 14640545 The_Boss said:

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Keep losing. A side benefit could be the termination of Shurm.

Precisely!

RE: RE: It�s time to embrace the suck

Optimus-NY : 10/22/2019 10:46 am : link

In comment 14640568 M.S. said:

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In comment 14640545 The_Boss said:

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Keep losing. A side benefit could be the termination of Shurm.

Precisely!

True, but I'm not sure that will do it for him this year. I think 2020 is more realistic unless there's a must-have coaching candidate out there this year.

Lots of Needs

Samiam : 10/22/2019 4:01 pm : link

How can you watch the Giants, especially last game, and not put OT on the list. And, given how old the starters are, I�d put OT at the top of the list. At the other positions,there are young players who might get better

RE: No guarantee of top 5

Gruber : 10/22/2019 5:38 pm : link

In comment 14640305 gmenatlarge said:

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many BAD teams this year- Miami, Skins, Jets, Bengals, Falcons, Bucs, Lions could all end up ahead of the Giants.

Detroit doesn't belong in that group. Not sure the Bucs do either.
Miami will have the first pick. Then it's the Bengals. After that you have both New York sides (yes, really!), Washington and Atlanta. We could be picking anywhere from 3 to 7.
Detroit was outright robbed of a victory by the officiating in the Packers game. And I hate to bring this up, but the Giants only beat the Bucs because Tampa Bay missed a sitter of a field goal.

Check Out Jets Schedule

Samiam : 10/22/2019 6:09 pm : link

They�ll win more than the Giants unless we beat them and I have my doubts

Unfortunately

Marty866b : 10/22/2019 6:25 pm : link

I have confidence that we'll move up.

If you don�t think WR isn�t

tyrik13 : 10/23/2019 4:57 pm : link

A huge need then you are clearly a delusional troll who doesn�t watch football at all. IMHO if we had a big play, reliable WR we would have won a lot more games. Yes O line is a need as well as Edge, but WR is absolutely a huge need

Tank a thon

Carl in CT : 10/23/2019 5:01 pm : link

Has us at #6 right now for what it�s worth.

RE: Tank a thon

ray in arlington : 10/23/2019 5:06 pm : link

In comment 14642771 Carl in CT said:

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Has us at #6 right now for what it�s worth.

This is because they are including wins and losses already accumulated by future opponents in calculating the Giants SOS. NFL content does not - for example, they are not including the losses the Dolphins have so far.

8th??

Jimmy Googs : 10/23/2019 5:08 pm : link

So approx 20% of the NFL is worse than the NY Giants.

Gettleman and Shurmur should get raises...

So does that mean

Carl in CT : 10/23/2019 5:36 pm : link

Tankathon is more accurate I guess.

RE: So does that mean

ray in arlington : 10/23/2019 5:51 pm : link

In comment 14642813 Carl in CT said:

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Tankathon is more accurate I guess.

Hard to say in the Giants case. Tankathon is including games that are already in the books by our future opponents so it reflects all the games counting towards the Giants SOS, and should be a better indicator of an eventual tiebreaker. But in the Giants case, since the SOS for the future opponents is significantly lower, it gives the Giants a chance to accumulate some wins again weaker teams and perhaps move down in the draft.

RE: Lots of Needs

santacruzom : 10/23/2019 5:58 pm : link

In comment 14641429 Samiam said:

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The good news is that it appears as though there will be top 5 to ten talent at a position we have a need for.

The bad news is that's because we have a need for top 5-10 talent at nearly every position.