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Britt in VA : 10/22/2019 8:42 am
Can you imagine the field day that would be going on this morning on this board if Daniel Jones went 11-32 for 86 yards and had 5 turnovers, and was caught on the sidelines saying that?

The board might implode.
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But listening..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2019 8:43 am : link
to some posters whine for two years about not picking Darnold has been some fun times.

fun, fucking times.
There is no might implode..  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/22/2019 8:44 am : link
This board would be a modern day Hiroshima.
I'm waiting for the  
cjac : 10/22/2019 8:44 am : link
Inky Blinky Pinky and Clyde memes
I'll admit,  
winoguy : 10/22/2019 8:45 am : link
I felt sorry for the kid. He looked lost...
It is hard to reconcile  
Mike from Ohio : 10/22/2019 8:45 am : link
the guy who played last week against the Cowboys with the guy who just played the Patriots. Given the Patriots defense is much better than Dallas', but the difference in performance was drastic.

The guy seemed spooked to play the Patriots which may speak to a larger problem than inconsistency.
RE: But listening..  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/22/2019 8:46 am : link
In comment 14640394 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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to some posters whine for two years about not picking Darnold has been some fun times.

fun, fucking times.


They came out the woodwork last Monday. So annoying, and it comes down to that reactionary crap you posted about. My generation has made strides on previous ones in lots of ways, but the instant changes of the winds is not one of them.
FWIW,  
section125 : 10/22/2019 8:46 am : link
Daniel Jones: 15/31 – 161 yards – 1 TD / 3 INT / 35.2 QBR vs the Patriots in NE.

So better, but no bragging rights there.
Right now, both QBs...  
M.S. : 10/22/2019 8:48 am : link

...SUCK!
RE: FWIW,  
Britt in VA : 10/22/2019 8:49 am : link
In comment 14640403 section125 said:
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Daniel Jones: 15/31 – 161 yards – 1 TD / 3 INT / 35.2 QBR vs the Patriots in NE.

So better, but no bragging rights there.


And yet, we felt pretty good about his performance the next morning, and were in the game in the 4th quarter.

Also, the Patriots defense has only allowed ONE passing TD this year.
Only saw highlights but wow  
Oscar : 10/22/2019 8:49 am : link
A lot of panic throws.
RE: FWIW,  
giants#1 : 10/22/2019 8:51 am : link
In comment 14640403 section125 said:
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Daniel Jones: 15/31 – 161 yards – 1 TD / 3 INT / 35.2 QBR vs the Patriots in NE.

So better, but no bragging rights there.


On a short week, with windy conditions (not sure how that compared to last night), his top 2 RBs and his top 2 receiving options all sidelined.

It will only implode by the ......  
5BowlsSoon : 10/22/2019 8:51 am : link
DG haters who want to find fault for ANYTHING OR EVERYTHING he has done:
1. Selecting Shurmur
2. Trading Odell
3. Benching of Eli (because Shurmur is coach)
4. FA pickups (Solder especially)
5. Draft picks
6. Selecting Jones at #6

Granted, it does appear DG got # 1 wrong and much of #4, but the other 4 he got right. So, yes, while it is becoming apparent DG has dropped the ball on some decisions, most of what he is doing is preparing us to be a much better team for 2020 and beyond, unfortunately, not this year. He may have to cut ties with Shurmur if he doesn’t show us something in the remaining 9 games and hopefully he makes much better decisions bringing people in here this offseason.
Aren't there some analytics someone can enlighten us with  
Chris684 : 10/22/2019 8:53 am : link
on how Darnold should be impacting W/L for the Jets all while on the cheap and Gettleman is a dinosaur for taking Barkley?

Who would have thought Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are the brightest spots of the 2018 draft class? And by the way, let me know if you think either of those can win a playoff game in which they have to throw the ball.
RE: It is hard to reconcile  
5BowlsSoon : 10/22/2019 8:53 am : link
In comment 14640401 Mike from Ohio said:
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the guy who played last week against the Cowboys with the guy who just played the Patriots. Given the Patriots defense is much better than Dallas', but the difference in performance was drastic.

The guy seemed spooked to play the Patriots which may speak to a larger problem than inconsistency.


Which makes the play of Our rookie Danny Jones even that much more impressive. (With no Barkley or Ingram )
Belicheck was impressed by the  
Gettledogman : 10/22/2019 8:55 am : link
young QB Dan Jones.. FWIW
RE: FWIW,  
BigBlueShock : 10/22/2019 8:55 am : link
In comment 14640403 section125 said:
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Daniel Jones: 15/31 – 161 yards – 1 TD / 3 INT / 35.2 QBR vs the Patriots in NE.

So better, but no bragging rights there.

To be fair, the weather conditions last Thursday were terrible. Darnold was at home, good weather conditions and he’s not a rookie.
RE: FWIW,  
5BowlsSoon : 10/22/2019 8:55 am : link
In comment 14640403 section125 said:
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Daniel Jones: 15/31 – 161 yards – 1 TD / 3 INT / 35.2 QBR vs the Patriots in NE.

So better, but no bragging rights there.


I expect better thinking from you 125....the weather was horrible....especially the high winds,plus DJ had no protection again and no playmakers other than Tate to play with.
Note to Shurmur...  
nzyme : 10/22/2019 8:57 am : link
Never let DJ be mic'd up!!!!
Mental toughness & field smarts are not going to be a problem for  
Spider56 : 10/22/2019 8:58 am : link
DJ ... He was a walk on who took a Duke team into Clemsons Death Valley, lined up against a boatload of NFL draft picks and played very well. He will be our QB for the next 15 years ... now we really need to get him OL help so he can stay upright and play.
D.Jones TD pass to Tate  
George from PA : 10/22/2019 8:59 am : link
Was 1st passing NE gave up.

That is amazing
RE: D.Jones TD pass to Tate  
Britt in VA : 10/22/2019 8:59 am : link
In comment 14640434 George from PA said:
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Was 1st passing NE gave up.

That is amazing


And still the ONLY one.
RE: There is no might implode..  
Scooter185 : 10/22/2019 9:01 am : link
In comment 14640395 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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This board would be a modern day Hiroshima.


More like Chernobyl
One difference between Darnold and Jones that isn't being discussed -  
Ira : 10/22/2019 9:02 am : link
Jones is a rookie. Darnold is in his second season.
I think the Jets need to consider...  
bw in dc : 10/22/2019 9:03 am : link
drafting a new QB in 2020. A QB just can’t say that. It’s basically saying you are mentally shot. And you simply can’t process information. We saw that with Dave Brown. I’m not sure there is a cure...

Couple that with Darnold’s horribly inconsistent footwork and they have a huge problem at Jets Central.

RE: One difference between Darnold and Jones that isn't being discussed -  
cjac : 10/22/2019 9:04 am : link
In comment 14640441 Ira said:
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Jones is a rookie. Darnold is in his second season.


Darnold is still really a rookie. He missed some games last year and missed some this year.

Has he even played 16 full games yet?
was just going to say I didn't quite understand  
UConn4523 : 10/22/2019 9:05 am : link
his explanation of it but it sounded like he was describing not being able to see the field properly, or that it was all too fast. But yeah, not good. I caught some of the game and every pass looked 5+ yards off the mark or just airmailed throwaways. Didn't even look like he was trying to make plays anymore.
RE: It will only implode by the ......  
M.S. : 10/22/2019 9:06 am : link
In comment 14640417 5BowlsSoon said:
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DG haters who want to find fault for ANYTHING OR EVERYTHING he has done:
1. Selecting Shurmur
2. Trading Odell
3. Benching of Eli (because Shurmur is coach)
4. FA pickups (Solder especially)
5. Draft picks
6. Selecting Jones at #6

Granted, it does appear DG got # 1 wrong and much of #4, but the other 4 he got right. So, yes, while it is becoming apparent DG has dropped the ball on some decisions, most of what he is doing is preparing us to be a much better team for 2020 and beyond, unfortunately, not this year. He may have to cut ties with Shurmur if he doesn’t show us something in the remaining 9 games and hopefully he makes much better decisions bringing people in here this offseason.

I'm definitely in the camp that supports DG's first two Drafts. But hiring Shurmur and paying through the nose for Solder were the type of mistakes that will set this franchise back for years.
RE: was just going to say I didn't quite understand  
Britt in VA : 10/22/2019 9:07 am : link
In comment 14640446 UConn4523 said:
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his explanation of it but it sounded like he was describing not being able to see the field properly, or that it was all too fast. But yeah, not good. I caught some of the game and every pass looked 5+ yards off the mark or just airmailed throwaways. Didn't even look like he was trying to make plays anymore.


That was as close as you'll see right in front of your eyes a young QB's confidence crumbling to dust.

I genuinely felt sorry for him when Gase was talking to him before the final drive of the half. Gase knew it. Frankly, I think they should have sat him down. He was clearly overmatched.
Actually  
Beezer : 10/22/2019 9:07 am : link
Daniel Jones mic’d up would likely be interesting and telling, in a very positive way. Would love to hear the entire Patriots game from him.
RE: But listening..  
djstat : 10/22/2019 9:09 am : link
In comment 14640394 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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to some posters whine for two years about not picking Darnold has been some fun times.

fun, fucking times.
Well said Fat.
RE: RE: It will only implode by the ......  
5BowlsSoon : 10/22/2019 9:09 am : link
In comment 14640448 M.S. said:
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In comment 14640417 5BowlsSoon said:


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DG haters who want to find fault for ANYTHING OR EVERYTHING he has done:
1. Selecting Shurmur
2. Trading Odell
3. Benching of Eli (because Shurmur is coach)
4. FA pickups (Solder especially)
5. Draft picks
6. Selecting Jones at #6

Granted, it does appear DG got # 1 wrong and much of #4, but the other 4 he got right. So, yes, while it is becoming apparent DG has dropped the ball on some decisions, most of what he is doing is preparing us to be a much better team for 2020 and beyond, unfortunately, not this year. He may have to cut ties with Shurmur if he doesn’t show us something in the remaining 9 games and hopefully he makes much better decisions bringing people in here this offseason.


I'm definitely in the camp that supports DG's first two Drafts. But hiring Shurmur and paying through the nose for Solder were the type of mistakes that will set this franchise back for years.


Like I said, Hopefully he Makes the adjustments to rectify those decisions (Cutting Shurmur). I know he probably can’t trade Solder or cut him, but maybe Solder turns it around like he did last year in the second half.
RE: Right now, both QBs...  
BestFeature : 10/22/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14640408 M.S. said:
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...SUCK!


You're a broken record. There's nothing in the 5 games that Jones played that comes even close to Darnold's level of ineptitude yesterday. But you need to shit all over Jones.
Jones..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2019 9:11 am : link
is probably like eli without the funny one-liners.

So basically, 60 minutes of dead air!!
anything to avoid facing how bad the Giants are, I guess  
Greg from LI : 10/22/2019 9:12 am : link
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I like seeing Darnold struggle.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/22/2019 9:12 am : link
Nothing against him, but it makes me smile when I hear some BBIers make him out to be the next Unitas.
RE: RE: One difference between Darnold and Jones that isn't being discussed -  
5BowlsSoon : 10/22/2019 9:13 am : link
In comment 14640445 cjac said:
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In comment 14640441 Ira said:


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Jones is a rookie. Darnold is in his second season.



Darnold is still really a rookie. He missed some games last year and missed some this year.

Has he even played 16 full games yet?


Stop this talk.....he played 13 of the 16 and all of the preseason.
RE: anything to avoid facing how bad the Giants are, I guess  
UConn4523 : 10/22/2019 9:16 am : link
In comment 14640464 Greg from LI said:
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What should we do, wallow in the the corner crying about the Giants? It’s a game, the Jets suck too, it’s funny.
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GiantEgo : 10/22/2019 9:16 am : link
Nothing that Darnold does makes Jones better or worse. I don't understand this line of thinking at all. It all gets revealed on the field in the fullness of time.
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arcarsenal : 10/22/2019 9:17 am : link
That was a seriously worrisome performance.

Not just the seeing ghosts stuff. But the mechanics... the footwork. Holy cow. That was horrific. It was so bad that I'd have actual concerns about Darnold moving forward.

He looked like a guy who was scared to get hit.

One of the worst QB performances I've seen in recent years. I think he had -2 yards at the 2min warning.

Jones had a tough one on Sunday too, but at least the guy hung in there and wasn't afraid of contact.

Last night actually made me question whether or not Darnold is the guy for the Jets. That's how bad he was.

Granted... we saw some equally bad shit from Eli further into his career than this. But just the sheer shittiness of his mechanics last night and everything about the way he played... yikes.
no, by all means, continue to avert your eyes  
Greg from LI : 10/22/2019 9:18 am : link
Who could blame you?
RE: anything to avoid facing how bad the Giants are, I guess  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2019 9:19 am : link
In comment 14640464 Greg from LI said:
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Are the dozens of threads talking about how bad the Giants are making the situation better or even cathartic?

Didn't think so.
no  
Greg from LI : 10/22/2019 9:21 am : link
But at least they are honest. But hey, if the Jets being bad too somehow gives you a warm glow inside, knock yourself out.

Giants fans have become Redskins fans in all their delusional glory. Never thought I'd see the day, but here we are.
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arcarsenal : 10/22/2019 9:22 am : link
Is it not possible to acknowledge the failures of the Giants and other things happening in the NFL at the same time?

Don't really understand that line of thinking.

We know the Giants suck. Not sure why that means we can't talk about a primetime MNF game that aired last night.

Darnold was horrendous. It's a football board. People are talking about it. BFD.
Delusional glory?  
UConn4523 : 10/22/2019 9:23 am : link
we aren’t good. That doesn’t mean I can also laugh at another teams misery.

The day I actually give a shit about the failures of millionaires playing a game will be the first.
The Giants do suck. I think we all acknowledge that.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/22/2019 9:26 am : link
But so do the Jets. We're not allowed to have some fun @ their performance last night?
Threads..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/22/2019 9:26 am : link
about the Giants sucking are honest??

They are cesspools of bitching where people congregate to backslap each other about how the team doesn't use analytics, used the #2 pick to draft to make a terrible pick (Darnold would've been better?), hired the worst GM and coach possible, has the worst roster in the NFL and is going to suck for the next several years.

That's clear-thinking non-delusional observations?

The fuck it is - it's just the opposite end of the spectrum.
RE: The Giants do suck. I think we all acknowledge that.  
UConn4523 : 10/22/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14640500 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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But so do the Jets. We're not allowed to have some fun @ their performance last night?


Not on my house Goddamnit. No fun here!
RE: RE: Right now, both QBs...  
M.S. : 10/22/2019 9:28 am : link
In comment 14640461 BestFeature said:
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In comment 14640408 M.S. said:


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...SUCK!



You're a broken record. There's nothing in the 5 games that Jones played that comes even close to Darnold's level of ineptitude yesterday. But you need to shit all over Jones.

You've got it wrong. I am a Daniel Jones supporter and I've liked some of the things he has done so far as a rookie. But he has simply sucked the last few games with all his turnovers.
RE: RE: FWIW,  
section125 : 10/22/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14640425 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 14640403 section125 said:


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Daniel Jones: 15/31 – 161 yards – 1 TD / 3 INT / 35.2 QBR vs the Patriots in NE.

So better, but no bragging rights there.



I expect better thinking from you 125....the weather was horrible....especially the high winds,plus DJ had no protection again and no playmakers other than Tate to play with.


Just a reference to offset the Darnold hanging crowd. Darnold looked pretty good against the Cowboys the previous week. Bill also had a whole week for Darnold and a short week for DJ - yeah that works both ways, true.

But, I do think Jones is a better QB than Darnold in the brief time I have seen him.
I dont see the need to even care that much about Darnold  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/22/2019 9:31 am : link
Other than it makes people momentarily forget that things on this side are pretty shitty.

Who really cares that Darnold was awful against a legitimately good defense days after jones was a turnover machine against a bad one? What does that do for anybody?
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