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Chris684 : 10/22/2019 9:41 am
Looks like Girardi to the Phils is going to happen, even though he's having 2nd interview with Mets today.

Andy Martino reporting a "bombshell candidate" is in the mix per twitter.

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RE: Bombshell  
DanMetroMan : 10/22/2019 11:32 am : link
In comment 14640840 TyreeHelmet said:
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Best guess to who this is?


Martino BS.
Still dont get why Showalter  
Rory : 10/22/2019 11:49 am : link
isn't in the mix.

I can understand Girardi not being the fit since the theme of a relaxed open clubhouse seems to be whats working, Girardi might interrupt that dynamic with his more military esque presence.

I'm kind of feeling better about Beltran as the guy.

I almost wonder if he always has been the guy since the 1st interview.

Also has their been anymore noise from Allan Baird interest with Boston?
Heyman  
DanMetroMan : 10/22/2019 11:53 am : link
admitting he's flat out guessing said Zeile, Darling or Hernandez. Hernandez would be ridiculous lol No chance.
Hire Beltran  
Rflairr : 10/22/2019 11:55 am : link
And keep it moving
RE: Still dont get why Showalter  
Section331 : 10/22/2019 11:58 am : link
In comment 14640873 Rory said:
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isn't in the mix.

I can understand Girardi not being the fit since the theme of a relaxed open clubhouse seems to be whats working, Girardi might interrupt that dynamic with his more military esque presence.


If you think Girardi is too much of a military-like presence, you definitely don't want Buck Showalter! Girardi is a long-haired hippy freak compared to Buck.
Showalter is not in the mix  
Chris684 : 10/22/2019 12:00 pm : link
because he's too threatening for Jeffy boy to handle as made evident by the "team is concerned about Buck's past relationships with management" headlines any time his name was brought up in the search.

The Mets should have already hired Joe Girardi, but the fact they haven't even talked to a manager on the level of Showalter is negligent.

No way it's Keith  
Chris684 : 10/22/2019 12:02 pm : link
and Zeile doesn't strike me as a "bombshell"

Darling would be though.
Mike Scioscia  
Archer : 10/22/2019 12:27 pm : link
Mike Scioscia would be an interesting possibility.
He is 60, but that may not deter the Mets
..  
Named Later : 10/22/2019 2:55 pm : link
Let's see.....which name best fits at the end of this list --

Bud Harrelson
Mike Cubbage
Jeff Torborg
Dallas Green
Bobby Valentine
Art Howe
Willie Randolph
Jerry Manuel
Terry Collins
Mickey Callaway

??

Keith Hernandez managing the team would be hilarious  
moespree : 10/22/2019 2:57 pm : link
Hilariously bad....but hilarious nonetheless.
You need someone with experience in the NL  
Vanzetti : 10/22/2019 3:00 pm : link
you can get away with a Boone in AL, especially when you have a totally stacked pen like Yankees.

But even then, Boone made questionable decisions. Start Chad Greene in an elimination game and try to win with relievers going 9 innings instead of just starting Happ? How did that decision work out?

RE: ..  
Vanzetti : 10/22/2019 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14641283 Named Later said:
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Let's see.....which name best fits at the end of this list --

Bud Harrelson
Mike Cubbage
Jeff Torborg
Dallas Green
Bobby Valentine
Art Howe
Willie Randolph
Jerry Manuel
Terry Collins
Mickey Callaway

??


That’s basically ten bad managers in a row. Forgot about Cubbage
Also if you look at that list  
Vanzetti : 10/22/2019 3:10 pm : link
Mets tend to overcorrect when hiring a new guy

Torborg mild mannered. Couldn’t enforce discipline followed by old school
Dallas Green . Then you go to master manipulator and strategist Bobby V. Followed by Willie who was beloved but utterly clueless with strategy because he never managed before.

Terry Collins. Mr Ra Ra. Old school with tons of experience Followed by “cutting edge” Mickey with no experience
....  
Named Later : 10/22/2019 3:20 pm : link
I'll give Cubby a pass, he was only an Interim.

I'll tell you who I was impressed with....Tony DeFrancesco, the manager at Syracuse. Guy's had success at AAA in the PCL too.

He sounds better than some of these other names
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RE: RE: ..  
Section331 : 10/22/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14641299 Vanzetti said:
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That’s basically ten bad managers in a row. Forgot about Cubbage


Bobby V was a good manager, he just wore out his welcome (as he always did).
Is there anyone this team  
Metnut : 10/22/2019 4:07 pm : link
isn't giving a second interview to?
RE: Is there anyone this team  
DanMetroMan : 10/22/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14641447 Metnut said:
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isn't giving a second interview to?



Joel Sherman
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Told Skip Schumaker and Mike Bell are the publicly known first-round candidates in #Mets process who are NOT getting a 2d interview. Bell still in play for the #Pirates
RE: RE: Is there anyone this team  
Metnut : 10/22/2019 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14641497 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14641447 Metnut said:


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isn't giving a second interview to?




Joel Sherman
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Told Skip Schumaker and Mike Bell are the publicly known first-round candidates in #Mets process who are NOT getting a 2d interview. Bell still in play for the #Pirates


Ha! You know I was being sarcastic.

I think they are up to 6 or 7 second interviews. Seems ridiculous to me.
RE: RE: RE: ..  
Mike in NY : 10/22/2019 4:54 pm : link
In comment 14641340 Section331 said:
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In comment 14641299 Vanzetti said:


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That’s basically ten bad managers in a row. Forgot about Cubbage



Bobby V was a good manager, he just wore out his welcome (as he always did).


I also had a problem with Bobby V's use of the bullpen. He would drive me insane with matching lefty/lefty or righty/righty. We would go innings where there were 3 or 4 pitchers being used. The problem with that was by the time we got to extra innings we were out of pitchers.
RE: RE: RE: Is there anyone this team  
DanMetroMan : 10/22/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14641528 Metnut said:
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In comment 14641497 DanMetroMan said:


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In comment 14641447 Metnut said:


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isn't giving a second interview to?




Joel Sherman
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Told Skip Schumaker and Mike Bell are the publicly known first-round candidates in #Mets process who are NOT getting a 2d interview. Bell still in play for the #Pirates



Ha! You know I was being sarcastic.

I think they are up to 6 or 7 second interviews. Seems ridiculous to me.


:) which is why I pasted it without commentary lol
Keith Hernandez is laughable. How do you watch Met games  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/22/2019 5:20 pm : link
and think that guy wants to manage. No way.
George Freaking  
XBRONX : 10/22/2019 5:25 pm : link
Costanza. Would be great move.
Bobby V  
Samiam : 10/22/2019 5:32 pm : link
The team he took to the World Series probably had the worst OF that a team ever took to the series. No easy job - I don’t remember the names, maybe someone can add them. I think collectively they didn’t hit 25 home runs
Bobby V  
Samiam : 10/22/2019 5:32 pm : link
The team he took to the World Series probably had the worst OF that a team ever took to the series. No easy job - I don’t remember the names, maybe someone can add them. I think collectively they didn’t hit 25 home runs
Benny Agbayani  
RodneyHamp : 10/22/2019 5:50 pm : link
Time Perez, Jay Payton?
RE: Benny Agbayani  
RodneyHamp : 10/22/2019 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14641634 RodneyHamp said:
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Time Perez, Jay Payton?


*Timo
Thanks Rodney  
Samiam : 10/22/2019 6:08 pm : link
Has there ever been a crappier starting OF in a WS game?
RE: Thanks Rodney  
ZGiants98 : 10/22/2019 7:40 pm : link
In comment 14641647 Samiam said:
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Has there ever been a crappier starting OF in a WS game?


Actually, all three were league average or better. Agbayani's wRC+ of 127 would have compared to Conforto this year offensively. Also, Derek Bell was in the mix all year and he was ok. Also helps getting MVP caliber seasons from Piazza and Alfonzo.
You think  
Gmanfandan : 10/22/2019 7:53 pm : link
They make the AJ Hinch trade?
Girardi saying he thinks he'll know where he wants to go in  
ZGiants98 : 10/22/2019 8:08 pm : link
"48 hours" as of tonight.

Clear indication to me he's not making any decisions until after he has his second interview with the Mets.
Yep if the Mets offer him the job post 2nd interview...  
Torrag : 10/22/2019 8:29 pm : link
he'll take it. If not he won't wait around if we're dragging our heels interviewing every managerial candidate in baseball and he'll take the philly job.
If it’s not Girardi or Beltran at this point  
Chris684 : 10/22/2019 9:22 pm : link
I’ll take the mystery candidate over the rest of the known field at this point lol
RE: If it’s not Girardi or Beltran at this point  
Gmanfandan : 10/22/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14641825 Chris684 said:
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I’ll take the mystery candidate over the rest of the known field at this point lol


Bogar is of no interest? I find him an intriguing choice.
apparently Cubs/Ross are finalizing a deal?  
bigbluehoya : 10/23/2019 9:50 am : link
I'd be all over Espada if I were NYM.
RE: apparently Cubs/Ross are finalizing a deal?  
Mike in NY : 10/23/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14642196 bigbluehoya said:
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I'd be all over Espada if I were NYM.


Unless Astros are willing to let Hinch go cheaply because they have Espada waiting in the wings, I would rather take Espada and not deal with the loss of any prospects. As is our farm system is poor and there is no manager that I would trade anybody for.
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DanMetroMan : 10/23/2019 2:25 pm : link

Jon Heyman
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Girardi seems much more likely to wind up with Phillies. His interviews there are said to have gone great, and perception may be that he’d have more freedom in Philadelphia. Mets covering bases. No certainty he’d be their 1st choice.
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Jon Heyman
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Heard Joe Girardi had 2nd interview w/Mets yesterday. If they want him they’d likely have to act now as Phillies are ready to make call by end of week and all signs point to JG as Philly favorite. Phils like all 3 of their candidates but JG said to hit it off w/Middleton/Klentak
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Metnut : 10/23/2019 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14642583 DanMetroMan said:
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Jon Heyman
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Girardi seems much more likely to wind up with Phillies. His interviews there are said to have gone great, and perception may be that he’d have more freedom in Philadelphia. Mets covering bases. No certainty he’d be their 1st choice.
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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Heard Joe Girardi had 2nd interview w/Mets yesterday. If they want him they’d likely have to act now as Phillies are ready to make call by end of week and all signs point to JG as Philly favorite. Phils like all 3 of their candidates but JG said to hit it off w/Middleton/Klentak


Girardi to Philly certainly looks likely, but let's keep in mind that Heyman is a hack whose only real source of information is agents. Certainly possible this is being leaked by Girardi's agent to pressure the Mets.
RE: If it’s not Girardi or Beltran at this point  
Eman11 : 10/23/2019 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14641825 Chris684 said:
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I’ll take the mystery candidate over the rest of the known field at this point lol


How about if that guy is David Cone?
Looks like the Red Sox might hire  
Metnut : 10/24/2019 9:24 pm : link
Chaim Bloom. He was the runner-up to Brodie and the guy a lot of us wanted to get the job. Crazy to think that we could’ve had Bloom and Girardi running things.
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DanMetroMan : 10/25/2019 2:29 pm : link
Andy Martino
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Hearing that Tim Bogar interviewed very well and is a strong contender for Mets job.
with Girardi off the grid it's anyones guess who'll be a good hire  
Torrag : 10/25/2019 2:43 pm : link
It's back to square one as it was with callaway.
Why doesn't Brodie just name himself the manager  
moespree : 10/25/2019 2:46 pm : link
You know he wants to. In my opinion, it seems the whole process is about figuring out which of these candidates is the biggest puppet for him and Jeff. So why not just do it yourself then and get it over with already.
This search has been a joke  
Eric on Li : 10/25/2019 3:19 pm : link
I didn't/don't put Girardi on a pedestal but compare how the Mets search has gone to the Phillies - whose 3 finalists were Girardi, Dusty, and Buck - and it's easy to see which team is trying to win right away and which team has a continually dysfunctional front office. Imagine that? 3 finalists who are among the winningest managers in recent history. What a novel concept.

The fact that the Mets still haven't made a decision and dragged this on as long as they is almost as much of a joke as the fact that they kept Callaway in the first place after he cursed out Tim Healy. I hate this team with the heat of 1000 suns.
This is a joke.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/25/2019 3:27 pm : link
This "search" has crossed the line from diligent to dysfunctional.
This would be such a Mets move - hire a proven manager as bench coach  
Eric on Li : 10/25/2019 3:42 pm : link
and an unproven manager to create an immediately speculative environment of dysfunction. We can write the headlines now for the first 5 game losing streak:

"Time for the Mets to fire _______ and SHOWalter they mean business!"

We just don't know who to fire yet.
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also here's some good news - until BVW trades him for a former client  
Eric on Li : 10/25/2019 3:48 pm : link
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Mets SS prospect Andres Gimenez enters the final night of AFL regular season with a chance to win the batting title (.358, chasing .361) and have the best OPS (.970, chasing 1.017).

RE: This would be such a Mets move - hire a proven manager as bench coach  
Rory : 10/25/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14645053 Eric on Li said:
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and an unproven manager to create an immediately speculative environment of dysfunction. We can write the headlines now for the first 5 game losing streak:

"Time for the Mets to fire _______ and SHOWalter they mean business!"

We just don't know who to fire yet. Buck Showalter could ease the risk of Mets’ high-wire manager search - ( New Window )


My theory is the Mets approached Beltran to be there bench coach which is why Girardi/Showalter were not a fit because they would want control picking their staff. Shocker right?

My assumption its Bogar which would explain why this is feeling drawn out but its designed to, to protect Bogar's relationship with Washtington through the series.

I have a feeling Bogar/Beltran will come in here and not much changes after that.
Perez  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2019 6:27 pm : link
emerges as clear favorite as Mets GM (per twitter)
Perez  
XBRONX : 10/25/2019 7:58 pm : link
has such great credentials.
I recently came  
Pete in MD : 10/26/2019 12:03 pm : link
across this Fangraphs interview with Derek Shelton on his managerial philosophy. It's somewhat interesting. I think he's still in the running for the job..
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