I can understand Girardi not being the fit since the theme of a relaxed open clubhouse seems to be whats working, Girardi might interrupt that dynamic with his more military esque presence.
I'm kind of feeling better about Beltran as the guy.
I almost wonder if he always has been the guy since the 1st interview.
Also has their been anymore noise from Allan Baird interest with Boston?
I can understand Girardi not being the fit since the theme of a relaxed open clubhouse seems to be whats working, Girardi might interrupt that dynamic with his more military esque presence.
If you think Girardi is too much of a military-like presence, you definitely don't want Buck Showalter! Girardi is a long-haired hippy freak compared to Buck.
because he's too threatening for Jeffy boy to handle as made evident by the "team is concerned about Buck's past relationships with management" headlines any time his name was brought up in the search.
The Mets should have already hired Joe Girardi, but the fact they haven't even talked to a manager on the level of Showalter is negligent.
you can get away with a Boone in AL, especially when you have a totally stacked pen like Yankees.
But even then, Boone made questionable decisions. Start Chad Greene in an elimination game and try to win with relievers going 9 innings instead of just starting Happ? How did that decision work out?
Torborg mild mannered. Couldn’t enforce discipline followed by old school
Dallas Green . Then you go to master manipulator and strategist Bobby V. Followed by Willie who was beloved but utterly clueless with strategy because he never managed before.
Terry Collins. Mr Ra Ra. Old school with tons of experience Followed by “cutting edge” Mickey with no experience
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Told Skip Schumaker and Mike Bell are the publicly known first-round candidates in #Mets process who are NOT getting a 2d interview. Bell still in play for the #Pirates
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Told Skip Schumaker and Mike Bell are the publicly known first-round candidates in #Mets process who are NOT getting a 2d interview. Bell still in play for the #Pirates
Ha! You know I was being sarcastic.
I think they are up to 6 or 7 second interviews. Seems ridiculous to me.
That’s basically ten bad managers in a row. Forgot about Cubbage
Bobby V was a good manager, he just wore out his welcome (as he always did).
I also had a problem with Bobby V's use of the bullpen. He would drive me insane with matching lefty/lefty or righty/righty. We would go innings where there were 3 or 4 pitchers being used. The problem with that was by the time we got to extra innings we were out of pitchers.
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Told Skip Schumaker and Mike Bell are the publicly known first-round candidates in #Mets process who are NOT getting a 2d interview. Bell still in play for the #Pirates
Ha! You know I was being sarcastic.
I think they are up to 6 or 7 second interviews. Seems ridiculous to me.
:) which is why I pasted it without commentary lol
Keith Hernandez is laughable. How do you watch Met games Â
The team he took to the World Series probably had the worst OF that a team ever took to the series. No easy job - I don’t remember the names, maybe someone can add them. I think collectively they didn’t hit 25 home runs
The team he took to the World Series probably had the worst OF that a team ever took to the series. No easy job - I don’t remember the names, maybe someone can add them. I think collectively they didn’t hit 25 home runs
Has there ever been a crappier starting OF in a WS game?
Actually, all three were league average or better. Agbayani's wRC+ of 127 would have compared to Conforto this year offensively. Also, Derek Bell was in the mix all year and he was ok. Also helps getting MVP caliber seasons from Piazza and Alfonzo.
he'll take it. If not he won't wait around if we're dragging our heels interviewing every managerial candidate in baseball and he'll take the philly job.
Unless Astros are willing to let Hinch go cheaply because they have Espada waiting in the wings, I would rather take Espada and not deal with the loss of any prospects. As is our farm system is poor and there is no manager that I would trade anybody for.
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Girardi seems much more likely to wind up with Phillies. His interviews there are said to have gone great, and perception may be that he’d have more freedom in Philadelphia. Mets covering bases. No certainty he’d be their 1st choice.
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Heard Joe Girardi had 2nd interview w/Mets yesterday. If they want him they’d likely have to act now as Phillies are ready to make call by end of week and all signs point to JG as Philly favorite. Phils like all 3 of their candidates but JG said to hit it off w/Middleton/Klentak
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Girardi seems much more likely to wind up with Phillies. His interviews there are said to have gone great, and perception may be that he’d have more freedom in Philadelphia. Mets covering bases. No certainty he’d be their 1st choice.
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Heard Joe Girardi had 2nd interview w/Mets yesterday. If they want him they’d likely have to act now as Phillies are ready to make call by end of week and all signs point to JG as Philly favorite. Phils like all 3 of their candidates but JG said to hit it off w/Middleton/Klentak
Girardi to Philly certainly looks likely, but let's keep in mind that Heyman is a hack whose only real source of information is agents. Certainly possible this is being leaked by Girardi's agent to pressure the Mets.
RE: If it’s not Girardi or Beltran at this point Â
Chaim Bloom. He was the runner-up to Brodie and the guy a lot of us wanted to get the job. Crazy to think that we could’ve had Bloom and Girardi running things.
You know he wants to. In my opinion, it seems the whole process is about figuring out which of these candidates is the biggest puppet for him and Jeff. So why not just do it yourself then and get it over with already.
I didn't/don't put Girardi on a pedestal but compare how the Mets search has gone to the Phillies - whose 3 finalists were Girardi, Dusty, and Buck - and it's easy to see which team is trying to win right away and which team has a continually dysfunctional front office. Imagine that? 3 finalists who are among the winningest managers in recent history. What a novel concept.
The fact that the Mets still haven't made a decision and dragged this on as long as they is almost as much of a joke as the fact that they kept Callaway in the first place after he cursed out Tim Healy. I hate this team with the heat of 1000 suns.
and an unproven manager to create an immediately speculative environment of dysfunction. We can write the headlines now for the first 5 game losing streak:
"Time for the Mets to fire _______ and SHOWalter they mean business!"
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Mets SS prospect Andres Gimenez enters the final night of AFL regular season with a chance to win the batting title (.358, chasing .361) and have the best OPS (.970, chasing 1.017).
RE: This would be such a Mets move - hire a proven manager as bench coach Â
and an unproven manager to create an immediately speculative environment of dysfunction. We can write the headlines now for the first 5 game losing streak:
"Time for the Mets to fire _______ and SHOWalter they mean business!"
We just don't know who to fire yet. Buck Showalter could ease the risk of Mets’ high-wire manager search - ( New Window )
My theory is the Mets approached Beltran to be there bench coach which is why Girardi/Showalter were not a fit because they would want control picking their staff. Shocker right?
My assumption its Bogar which would explain why this is feeling drawn out but its designed to, to protect Bogar's relationship with Washtington through the series.
I have a feeling Bogar/Beltran will come in here and not much changes after that.
across this Fangraphs interview with Derek Shelton on his managerial philosophy. It's somewhat interesting. I think he's still in the running for the job.. Link - ( New Window )
Martino BS.
I can understand Girardi not being the fit since the theme of a relaxed open clubhouse seems to be whats working, Girardi might interrupt that dynamic with his more military esque presence.
I'm kind of feeling better about Beltran as the guy.
I almost wonder if he always has been the guy since the 1st interview.
Also has their been anymore noise from Allan Baird interest with Boston?
I can understand Girardi not being the fit since the theme of a relaxed open clubhouse seems to be whats working, Girardi might interrupt that dynamic with his more military esque presence.
If you think Girardi is too much of a military-like presence, you definitely don't want Buck Showalter! Girardi is a long-haired hippy freak compared to Buck.
The Mets should have already hired Joe Girardi, but the fact they haven't even talked to a manager on the level of Showalter is negligent.
Darling would be though.
He is 60, but that may not deter the Mets
Bud Harrelson
Mike Cubbage
Jeff Torborg
Dallas Green
Bobby Valentine
Art Howe
Willie Randolph
Jerry Manuel
Terry Collins
Mickey Callaway
??
But even then, Boone made questionable decisions. Start Chad Greene in an elimination game and try to win with relievers going 9 innings instead of just starting Happ? How did that decision work out?
Bud Harrelson
Mike Cubbage
Jeff Torborg
Dallas Green
Bobby Valentine
Art Howe
Willie Randolph
Jerry Manuel
Terry Collins
Mickey Callaway
??
That’s basically ten bad managers in a row. Forgot about Cubbage
Torborg mild mannered. Couldn’t enforce discipline followed by old school
Dallas Green . Then you go to master manipulator and strategist Bobby V. Followed by Willie who was beloved but utterly clueless with strategy because he never managed before.
Terry Collins. Mr Ra Ra. Old school with tons of experience Followed by “cutting edge” Mickey with no experience
I'll tell you who I was impressed with....Tony DeFrancesco, the manager at Syracuse. Guy's had success at AAA in the PCL too.
He sounds better than some of these other names
"Most excitement for me is to send a guy to the Majors" - ( New Window )
That’s basically ten bad managers in a row. Forgot about Cubbage
Bobby V was a good manager, he just wore out his welcome (as he always did).
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isn't giving a second interview to?
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Told Skip Schumaker and Mike Bell are the publicly known first-round candidates in #Mets process who are NOT getting a 2d interview. Bell still in play for the #Pirates
Ha! You know I was being sarcastic.
I think they are up to 6 or 7 second interviews. Seems ridiculous to me.
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That’s basically ten bad managers in a row. Forgot about Cubbage
Bobby V was a good manager, he just wore out his welcome (as he always did).
I also had a problem with Bobby V's use of the bullpen. He would drive me insane with matching lefty/lefty or righty/righty. We would go innings where there were 3 or 4 pitchers being used. The problem with that was by the time we got to extra innings we were out of pitchers.
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isn't giving a second interview to?
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Told Skip Schumaker and Mike Bell are the publicly known first-round candidates in #Mets process who are NOT getting a 2d interview. Bell still in play for the #Pirates
Ha! You know I was being sarcastic.
I think they are up to 6 or 7 second interviews. Seems ridiculous to me.
:) which is why I pasted it without commentary lol
*Timo
Actually, all three were league average or better. Agbayani's wRC+ of 127 would have compared to Conforto this year offensively. Also, Derek Bell was in the mix all year and he was ok. Also helps getting MVP caliber seasons from Piazza and Alfonzo.
Clear indication to me he's not making any decisions until after he has his second interview with the Mets.
Bogar is of no interest? I find him an intriguing choice.
Unless Astros are willing to let Hinch go cheaply because they have Espada waiting in the wings, I would rather take Espada and not deal with the loss of any prospects. As is our farm system is poor and there is no manager that I would trade anybody for.
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Girardi seems much more likely to wind up with Phillies. His interviews there are said to have gone great, and perception may be that he’d have more freedom in Philadelphia. Mets covering bases. No certainty he’d be their 1st choice.
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Heard Joe Girardi had 2nd interview w/Mets yesterday. If they want him they’d likely have to act now as Phillies are ready to make call by end of week and all signs point to JG as Philly favorite. Phils like all 3 of their candidates but JG said to hit it off w/Middleton/Klentak
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Girardi seems much more likely to wind up with Phillies. His interviews there are said to have gone great, and perception may be that he’d have more freedom in Philadelphia. Mets covering bases. No certainty he’d be their 1st choice.
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Heard Joe Girardi had 2nd interview w/Mets yesterday. If they want him they’d likely have to act now as Phillies are ready to make call by end of week and all signs point to JG as Philly favorite. Phils like all 3 of their candidates but JG said to hit it off w/Middleton/Klentak
Girardi to Philly certainly looks likely, but let's keep in mind that Heyman is a hack whose only real source of information is agents. Certainly possible this is being leaked by Girardi's agent to pressure the Mets.
How about if that guy is David Cone?
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Hearing that Tim Bogar interviewed very well and is a strong contender for Mets job.
The fact that the Mets still haven't made a decision and dragged this on as long as they is almost as much of a joke as the fact that they kept Callaway in the first place after he cursed out Tim Healy. I hate this team with the heat of 1000 suns.
"Time for the Mets to fire _______ and SHOWalter they mean business!"
We just don't know who to fire yet.
Buck Showalter could ease the risk of Mets’ high-wire manager search - ( New Window )
@mikemayerMMO
Mets SS prospect Andres Gimenez enters the final night of AFL regular season with a chance to win the batting title (.358, chasing .361) and have the best OPS (.970, chasing 1.017).
"Time for the Mets to fire _______ and SHOWalter they mean business!"
We just don't know who to fire yet. Buck Showalter could ease the risk of Mets’ high-wire manager search - ( New Window )
My theory is the Mets approached Beltran to be there bench coach which is why Girardi/Showalter were not a fit because they would want control picking their staff. Shocker right?
My assumption its Bogar which would explain why this is feeling drawn out but its designed to, to protect Bogar's relationship with Washtington through the series.
I have a feeling Bogar/Beltran will come in here and not much changes after that.
Link - ( New Window )