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| Shepard to @NewsdaySports “I’m not worried about (the concussions). This is what I love to do and it’s how I take care of my family. Yeah I do have two kids and I think about it from time to time, but I’ll make that decision later on down the road.” |
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| “They’ve been saying stuff,” he said of people nudging him away from football. “But I’m gonna fo what makes me happy and this is what makes me happy. I’m going to continue to do that until I feel like it’s a little too much.” |
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| What’s a little too much? “When I get fed up with it.” |
I completely understand the concern about head injuries, but I wonder if the pendulum has swung to far in the other direction.
Do you guys realize that under the new rules that Jeff Hostetler would not have been allowed to continue to play in Super Bowl XXV?
They just gave him a huge 4-year deal.
Agreed. Heal up and make sure he's 100% when he steps on the field again. If he gets one more concussion then retire.
I honestly don’t think that is that big of a factor. Kind of agree with Eric, these guys are making a ton of money and their families are going to be concerned no matter what anyway. And then fans think they know what’s best for a player which we all know is never the case.
I do think more players will continue to retire early but that will still be somewhat random as to who it will be (Willis and Luck) since we’ve got guys like Reed still trying to play.
Do you guys realize that under the new rules that Jeff Hostetler would not have been allowed to continue to play in Super Bowl XXV?
There is no single objective diagnosis for a concussion. Nor is there any definitive treatment for a concussion. It's absurd to believe the NFL is being too cautious here. If anything, the NFL concussion protocol is a band-aid on a problem that needs surgery.
Shepard should take the rest of the year off and reevaluate in the off-season.
you've been told several times that Shep has been re-signed.
This is a VIOLENT, CONTACT sport.
I am getting the sense that some NFL fans are now uncomfortable with the toll it takes on the human body. Same reason some people don't like boxing.
Shepard will make the decision he is most comfortable with. Harry Carson said he had something like 30 concussions in his career. But he loved the game.
The combination of better money management and more awareness of the health risks is going to make an Andrew Luck type retirement less shocking in the future.
You must be a great hang.
However, I certainly have no problem should he decide his health is in jeopardy. He seems like a great guy. Of course family members are looking at all the players developing CTE and are worried. Cannot blame them.
I completely understand the concern about head injuries, but I wonder if the pendulum has swung to far in the other direction.
Do you guys realize that under the new rules that Jeff Hostetler would not have been allowed to continue to play in Super Bowl XXV?
I agree with you. I also wonder if players start doing this how that would effect salary caps for teams.
I completely understand the concern about head injuries, but I wonder if the pendulum has swung to far in the other direction.
Do you guys realize that under the new rules that Jeff Hostetler would not have been allowed to continue to play in Super Bowl XXV?
I think you're right. The physicians are going to err on the side of caution, but it'll hopefully end up toward a middle ground.
The numbers of players out with concussions compared with years ago is much higher.
If that never happened, I dont think he would have been held out of the Viking game.
My son is not playing football because of this very reason. It’s been a hard decision but I have to do what I think best.
I don’t think he has thought about retirement. Honestly. Sounds like some folks have talk to him about doing it but he isn’t close to doing it. In fact, he sounds like he is committed to playing. I get your point, but I don’t think he’s there, yet
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I hate to say this too.
They just gave him a huge 4-year deal.
Oh my........
Carson has also said he wouldn't have played the game knowing what he knows now about the impact of the concussions. That certainly doesn't change the fact that it's Shepard's choice to continue playing, given clearance by doctors, but it's not a compelling example that people are overreacting to the seriousness of head trauma.
you've been told several times that Shep has been re-signed.
No flap.....go,F yourself too. I may have been told but if I didn’t see it, then how would I know. I did see Eric saying it here though.
Why would I troll about this? SMH.....you must think I’m trolling because you probably “hate” DG or DJ and you know how supportive and passionate I am for each.
This is a VIOLENT, CONTACT sport.
I am getting the sense that some NFL fans are now uncomfortable with the toll it takes on the human body. Same reason some people don't like boxing.
Shepard will make the decision he is most comfortable with. Harry Carson said he had something like 30 concussions in his career. But he loved the game.
Harry Carson won't even let his grandkids play football!
If they were winning, would your opinion on the worth of the risk change?
Not too long ago, getting "your bell rung" was not a big deal in football. Obviously, it should have been taken more seriously.
But note the thread on soccer and head injuries from earlier this week.
I get the sense that there are many out there who just want to ban competitive sports. (Hell, my kids weren't allowed to play dodge ball in school).
I already referenced it above, but do you think Jeff Hostetler regrets not being pulled from Super Bowl XXV? (He couldn't even smell the smelling salts on the sidelines).
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You and I are going to have to agree to disagree.
This is a VIOLENT, CONTACT sport.
I am getting the sense that some NFL fans are now uncomfortable with the toll it takes on the human body. Same reason some people don't like boxing.
Shepard will make the decision he is most comfortable with. Harry Carson said he had something like 30 concussions in his career. But he loved the game.
Harry Carson won't even let his grandkids play football!
Full disclosure...if I had a choice or a say in it, I would not let my kids play. In fact, I've tried to discourage my friends from having their kids choose football over other sports when there was a choice to be made (go soccer!).
Any "experts" care to weigh in?
His basic premise was that the negative evidence about CTE and playing football will become so overwhelming that only a select few will continue to play.
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Who wants to risk permanent damage for this crew of losers?
If they were winning, would your opinion on the worth of the risk change?
My opinion has nothing to do with it. I do think a player would be more willing to assume the risks when playing for a contender than a bottom feeder.
Not too long ago, getting "your bell rung" was not a big deal in football. Obviously, it should have been taken more seriously.
But note the thread on soccer and head injuries from earlier this week.
I get the sense that there are many out there who just want to ban competitive sports. (Hell, my kids weren't allowed to play dodge ball in school).
I already referenced it above, but do you think Jeff Hostetler regrets not being pulled from Super Bowl XXV? (He couldn't even smell the smelling salts on the sidelines).
As mentioned in the other thread, there have been modifications to youth soccer to help decrease head injuries. Also, I'm not sure about the latest data, but the older data suggested that any potential brain problems in soccer resulted from long-term cumulative hits, as opposed to the acute contact injuries in football. That's notwithstanding the head to head collisions which I still think (based on nothing) is more detrimental than heading per se (with proper technique).
His basic premise was that the negative evidence about CTE and playing football will become so overwhelming that only a select few will continue to play.
You seriously think that the majority of athletes around the country are going to abandon playing football on Friday (high school), Saturday (college), and Sunday (NFL)?
I watch a lot of high school football now. The kids still love it.
Yeah, those poor college teams around the nation. They can't even field competitive teams! College football has never been in a worse state! (sarcasm off)
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I'm not convinced that the 30-year old Carson would have given up football, even if he said so later in life.
Not too long ago, getting "your bell rung" was not a big deal in football. Obviously, it should have been taken more seriously.
But note the thread on soccer and head injuries from earlier this week.
I get the sense that there are many out there who just want to ban competitive sports. (Hell, my kids weren't allowed to play dodge ball in school).
I already referenced it above, but do you think Jeff Hostetler regrets not being pulled from Super Bowl XXV? (He couldn't even smell the smelling salts on the sidelines).
As mentioned in the other thread, there have been modifications to youth soccer to help decrease head injuries. Also, I'm not sure about the latest data, but the older data suggested that any potential brain problems in soccer resulted from long-term cumulative hits, as opposed to the acute contact injuries in football. That's notwithstanding the head to head collisions which I still think (based on nothing) is more detrimental than heading per se (with proper technique).
I could be 100% wrong, but I always thought the latest science believes (and I think it is only a belief) that the CTE and dementia issues stemmed from players playing with concussions and getting concussion upon concussion while never being cleared up. And, the remedy, which they have now is to keep you out of the game until you are no longer suffering a concussion. But, again, I know I heard this, but I am not sure if it is right.
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wrote an interesting opinion piece on this a while back.
His basic premise was that the negative evidence about CTE and playing football will become so overwhelming that only a select few will continue to play.
You seriously think that the majority of athletes around the country are going to abandon playing football on Friday (high school), Saturday (college), and Sunday (NFL)?
I watch a lot of high school football now. The kids still love it.
People will always play; the NFL is too big. I do wonder whether the demographics will show a loss in the suburban kids though.
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I'm not convinced that the 30-year old Carson would have given up football, even if he said so later in life.
Not too long ago, getting "your bell rung" was not a big deal in football. Obviously, it should have been taken more seriously.
But note the thread on soccer and head injuries from earlier this week.
I get the sense that there are many out there who just want to ban competitive sports. (Hell, my kids weren't allowed to play dodge ball in school).
I already referenced it above, but do you think Jeff Hostetler regrets not being pulled from Super Bowl XXV? (He couldn't even smell the smelling salts on the sidelines).
As mentioned in the other thread, there have been modifications to youth soccer to help decrease head injuries. Also, I'm not sure about the latest data, but the older data suggested that any potential brain problems in soccer resulted from long-term cumulative hits, as opposed to the acute contact injuries in football. That's notwithstanding the head to head collisions which I still think (based on nothing) is more detrimental than heading per se (with proper technique).
I could be 100% wrong, but I always thought the latest science believes (and I think it is only a belief) that the CTE and dementia issues stemmed from players playing with concussions and getting concussion upon concussion while never being cleared up. And, the remedy, which they have now is to keep you out of the game until you are no longer suffering a concussion. But, again, I know I heard this, but I am not sure if it is right.
Could be. It's not my area. I did read a few older studies but the info is out of date.
If my son wanted to play football, I would have supported him. But my concern would not have been over concussions but him getting a torn ACL or broken arm.
But competitive sports is still too attractive to all demographic groups for various reasons.
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Who wants to risk permanent damage for this crew of losers?
You must be a great hang.
He has been a miserable sack of shit around here for weeks.
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I'm not convinced that the 30-year old Carson would have given up football, even if he said so later in life.
Not too long ago, getting "your bell rung" was not a big deal in football. Obviously, it should have been taken more seriously.
But note the thread on soccer and head injuries from earlier this week.
I get the sense that there are many out there who just want to ban competitive sports. (Hell, my kids weren't allowed to play dodge ball in school).
I already referenced it above, but do you think Jeff Hostetler regrets not being pulled from Super Bowl XXV? (He couldn't even smell the smelling salts on the sidelines).
As mentioned in the other thread, there have been modifications to youth soccer to help decrease head injuries. Also, I'm not sure about the latest data, but the older data suggested that any potential brain problems in soccer resulted from long-term cumulative hits, as opposed to the acute contact injuries in football. That's notwithstanding the head to head collisions which I still think (based on nothing) is more detrimental than heading per se (with proper technique).
Long-term cumulative hits appear to be significantly more of a causative issue in football as well as other contact sports. CTE appears both in those with a significant concussion history, and also in those with slight or no concussion history.
Roofers, loggers, miners, iron workers, cops, firemen, postal workers - jobs with high risk of injury or death. If people avoided dangerous jobs, every one would be an accountant.