has talented pass rushers. I don't think the line sucked as much as people think on Sunday. Just look how Brady gets rid of it quick making his line look amazing.
Is on the OL. There is no time to make a read and throw the ball period. Jesus poor analysis.
LOL really? Did you watch it? Yea, the OL sucks, but there are a few on him. A coverage sack too. You realize league average to throw the ball isn't 6 seconds, it's closer to half of that, right?
Is on the OL. There is no time to make a read and throw the ball period. Jesus poor analysis.
Yeah no. Cards are bringing 5, gotta make your hot reads. Every play can't be a big one.
The one where he didn't assign blame to Remmers or Barkley was definetly on Barkley. Remmers fans out to pick up the outside rusher and Barkley just lets Jones waltz to the QB.
of recognizing that their edge guys where winning 1 on 1 often enough that when the sent and extra guy on the edge we had no chance. Once guys started cheating the blitzing player often came free. Barkley either needs to stay in to block or we need to use a 2 man backfield. He is looking to get into his route before picking up the blitz
These guys are just not as prepared as they should be. Â
Standouts:
1) Was Barkley rusty or did he just miss a few blocking assignments?
2) Several times Barkley got caught up in the wash, making him late to become a safety valve.
3) How far should guards and tackles retreat in pass protection? Ours regularly seem to take 2-3 backward steps before engaging the rushers. Rushers have a lot of momentum by then.
4) On these plays, our receivers seldom make crisp cuts. They run banana-curves (twice, behind a back) rather than sharp angles.
5) When our tight ends run square-outs, they seldom end up more than 2 yards downfield. If they then come back to receive a pass, they can be tackled for no gain.
These, of course, were our failed plays, but sheesh.
Is on the OL. There is no time to make a read and throw the ball period. Jesus poor analysis.
LOL really? Did you watch it? Yea, the OL sucks, but there are a few on him. A coverage sack too. You realize league average to throw the ball isn't 6 seconds, it's closer to half of that, right?
Just some terrible coaching. DJ8 worked with Cutcliffe "really bad bad fucking shit happens when you hold the ball for more than 2.8 seconds" for 3 years.
of recognizing that their edge guys where winning 1 on 1 often enough that when the sent and extra guy on the edge we had no chance. Once guys started cheating the blitzing player often came free. Barkley either needs to stay in to block or we need to use a 2 man backfield. He is looking to get into his route before picking up the blitz
Blocking with Barkley is moronic, like sending Dexter Lawrence into coverage. Need to play more 21 or 12 perssonel, we want Engram running routes too.
I would read articles like this on every play if I could Â
He's right:
- DJ is currently slow on the pre snap recognition
- Barkley was awful in his pass pro
I would add 2 points:
1) It really annoys me that is seems every play our play clock goes down to 0. The D can sit in their disguise coverage and they know exactly when they can shift to the real.
2) Since this piece discussed only the sacks, it hides how mad the O Line was on all the pressures, that DJ had to break his progression after a second. The line was in his face all day.
Specifically about Jones you can see that he's trying to do too much. We've seen him respond to pressure brilliantly prior to this last two games and I think he'll respond again.
IMHO, once Shurmur gets off his butt and drills it into this kids' head that he is trying to do too much he'll be fine.
RE: I would read articles like this on every play if I could Â
He's right:
- DJ is currently slow on the pre snap recognition
- Barkley was awful in his pass pro
I would add 2 points:
1) It really annoys me that is seems every play our play clock goes down to 0. The D can sit in their disguise coverage and they know exactly when they can shift to the real.
2) Since this piece discussed only the sacks, it hides how mad the O Line was on all the pressures, that DJ had to break his progression after a second. The line was in his face all day.
Makes a lot of sense and Barkley clearly rusty timing and
protection both him and Jones trying to hard to make something happen . Probably laugh but I think both Remmers ans Soldier have better games ahead but both need to be
replaced top priority . I think the RT will come via
free agency . Draft a LT top pick of the draft as much
as we can drool over Chase Young for instance the O-line
has to be fixed
The tackles have gotten better, but still aren’t great. In 2018, Nate Solder and Chad Wheeler combined for 76 allowed pressures through seven games. Solder allowed 33 and Wheeler allowed 43. That’s an average of 10.86 pressures allowed-per-game from the tackles, which would be on-pace for 173.7 pressures allowed-per-16 games.
However, this year, Solder has allowed 26 pressures and right tackle Mike Remmers has allowed 24 through seven games, combining for 50. That’s an average of 7.14 pressures allowed-per-game, on pace for 114.29 pressures allowed-per-16 games.
The tackles have gotten better, but still aren’t great. In 2018, Nate Solder and Chad Wheeler combined for 76 allowed pressures through seven games. Solder allowed 33 and Wheeler allowed 43. That’s an average of 10.86 pressures allowed-per-game from the tackles, which would be on-pace for 173.7 pressures allowed-per-16 games.
However, this year, Solder has allowed 26 pressures and right tackle Mike Remmers has allowed 24 through seven games, combining for 50. That’s an average of 7.14 pressures allowed-per-game, on pace for 114.29 pressures allowed-per-16 games.
Amazing Eli wasn't seeing ghosts and a TO machine like DJ8, he's a savvy vet.
Of the 7 sacks only two had even a token hand off and those were both:
without any real run action by the line
And
Both inside runs towards the a gap.
That's the same crap we saw from macadoodle
Nobody remember that Packers game? Maybe a token playoff or last game before?
If you don't use real run action that's same line action as actual good runs you just had, if you don't run outside the edge well, the lbs just eat your lunch for you
Packers had Aaron Rodgers we dont. And Packers ol was trained up.in some sort of almost holding type technique. Shove up under the pads technique or some shit.
It's hard to replicate that without that specific regime and without Aaron Rodgers.
Similar to how it's hard to replicate Pat's without Brady , bill B and scarnecchia .
Contrast that with actual not imaginary outsize zone runs based play action. I'm not saying it's automatic but if you invest in it it's probably more replicable
Of the 7 sacks only two had even a token hand off and those were both:
without any real run action by the line
And
Both inside runs towards the a gap.
That's the same crap we saw from macadoodle
Nobody remember that Packers game? Maybe a token playoff or last game before?
If you don't use real run action that's same line action as actual good runs you just had, if you don't run outside the edge well, the lbs just eat your lunch for you
WTF people
Seems like Shemur went completely away from the rollouts? Which should be completely devastating with SB and DJ8 breaking LB ankles.
getting out of the way with C Jones literally right in front of him. Again, either Zeitler or Remmers should have been tasked with blocking Jones, and Barkley could fan out to block the corner blitz. Maybe that was his assignment, but when you have an unblocked guy right in your face???
I have to laugh when Barkley was out we had posters worrying about blitz pick ups. SB has been poor at that for a year and a half now.
Uhhh....ok.
LOL really? Did you watch it? Yea, the OL sucks, but there are a few on him. A coverage sack too. You realize league average to throw the ball isn't 6 seconds, it's closer to half of that, right?
Yeah no. Cards are bringing 5, gotta make your hot reads. Every play can't be a big one.
The one where he didn't assign blame to Remmers or Barkley was definetly on Barkley. Remmers fans out to pick up the outside rusher and Barkley just lets Jones waltz to the QB.
Shurmur is in over his head. And I'm still confused as to why Hal Hunter is in charge of the OL.
1) Was Barkley rusty or did he just miss a few blocking assignments?
2) Several times Barkley got caught up in the wash, making him late to become a safety valve.
3) How far should guards and tackles retreat in pass protection? Ours regularly seem to take 2-3 backward steps before engaging the rushers. Rushers have a lot of momentum by then.
4) On these plays, our receivers seldom make crisp cuts. They run banana-curves (twice, behind a back) rather than sharp angles.
5) When our tight ends run square-outs, they seldom end up more than 2 yards downfield. If they then come back to receive a pass, they can be tackled for no gain.
These, of course, were our failed plays, but sheesh.
Quote:
Is on the OL. There is no time to make a read and throw the ball period. Jesus poor analysis.
LOL really? Did you watch it? Yea, the OL sucks, but there are a few on him. A coverage sack too. You realize league average to throw the ball isn't 6 seconds, it's closer to half of that, right?
Just some terrible coaching. DJ8 worked with Cutcliffe "really bad bad fucking shit happens when you hold the ball for more than 2.8 seconds" for 3 years.
Blocking with Barkley is moronic, like sending Dexter Lawrence into coverage. Need to play more 21 or 12 perssonel, we want Engram running routes too.
- DJ is currently slow on the pre snap recognition
- Barkley was awful in his pass pro
I would add 2 points:
1) It really annoys me that is seems every play our play clock goes down to 0. The D can sit in their disguise coverage and they know exactly when they can shift to the real.
2) Since this piece discussed only the sacks, it hides how mad the O Line was on all the pressures, that DJ had to break his progression after a second. The line was in his face all day.
IMHO, once Shurmur gets off his butt and drills it into this kids' head that he is trying to do too much he'll be fine.
- DJ is currently slow on the pre snap recognition
- Barkley was awful in his pass pro
I would add 2 points:
1) It really annoys me that is seems every play our play clock goes down to 0. The D can sit in their disguise coverage and they know exactly when they can shift to the real.
2) Since this piece discussed only the sacks, it hides how mad the O Line was on all the pressures, that DJ had to break his progression after a second. The line was in his face all day.
Makes a lot of sense and Barkley clearly rusty timing and
protection both him and Jones trying to hard to make something happen . Probably laugh but I think both Remmers ans Soldier have better games ahead but both need to be
replaced top priority . I think the RT will come via
free agency . Draft a LT top pick of the draft as much
as we can drool over Chase Young for instance the O-line
has to be fixed
However, this year, Solder has allowed 26 pressures and right tackle Mike Remmers has allowed 24 through seven games, combining for 50. That’s an average of 7.14 pressures allowed-per-game, on pace for 114.29 pressures allowed-per-16 games.
However, this year, Solder has allowed 26 pressures and right tackle Mike Remmers has allowed 24 through seven games, combining for 50. That’s an average of 7.14 pressures allowed-per-game, on pace for 114.29 pressures allowed-per-16 games.
Amazing Eli wasn't seeing ghosts and a TO machine like DJ8, he's a savvy vet.
without any real run action by the line
And
Both inside runs towards the a gap.
That's the same crap we saw from macadoodle
Nobody remember that Packers game? Maybe a token playoff or last game before?
If you don't use real run action that's same line action as actual good runs you just had, if you don't run outside the edge well, the lbs just eat your lunch for you
WTF people
Packers had Aaron Rodgers we dont. And Packers ol was trained up.in some sort of almost holding type technique. Shove up under the pads technique or some shit.
It's hard to replicate that without that specific regime and without Aaron Rodgers.
Similar to how it's hard to replicate Pat's without Brady , bill B and scarnecchia .
Contrast that with actual not imaginary outsize zone runs based play action. I'm not saying it's automatic but if you invest in it it's probably more replicable
without any real run action by the line
And
Both inside runs towards the a gap.
That's the same crap we saw from macadoodle
Nobody remember that Packers game? Maybe a token playoff or last game before?
If you don't use real run action that's same line action as actual good runs you just had, if you don't run outside the edge well, the lbs just eat your lunch for you
WTF people
Seems like Shemur went completely away from the rollouts? Which should be completely devastating with SB and DJ8 breaking LB ankles.
I have to laugh when Barkley was out we had posters worrying about blitz pick ups. SB has been poor at that for a year and a half now.